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Argentina: Macri suggests to the Broad Front 'an agreement after the presidential election'
Buenos Aires City Mayor Mauricio Macri rejected on Thursday rumours suggesting a political alliance with the left leaning Broad Front UNEN, born this week and called for its leaders to seek an agreement for “after the (presidential) elections,” in 2015. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf they did win the election, and that's a big if,
Apr 25th, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope they put on a nice bold front and have a completely different attitude towards the Falkland's
after all, they would lose nothing, but could gain a friend..,
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Apr 25th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the next gov't will cool things down whoever it is. The claim will not be lifted. Massa for example is more interested in the Pacific Alliance and making amends with the US and Spain, he is also seeking the Brazilian opposition to Dilma's workers party.
http://www.urgente24.com/225810-en-brasil-massa-planteo-la-geopolitica-post-kirchnerista
So I think on Foregin affairs the next gov't will look more “normal”. Slightly pro western (but not as Washington's bootlickers as they were in the 1990s) but they will distance from Maduro-Rouseff-Evo Morales- Correa Latam communist axis.
If you make it, Macri, try a new approach. Honesty, compensation, honesty, openness, honesty, truth, honesty, humility.
Apr 25th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Briton
Apr 25th, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“after all, they would lose nothing, but could gain a friend..,”
The best way for Argentina to 'get their own back' on the Islanders for refusing to be Argentines would be to trade with the Islands, assuring that (according to the amount of trade) Falklands money would end up making Argentina richer.
Also a friendly attitude might get Argentines jobs, thus securing them a benefit at the Islander's expense.
I'm not holding my breath-the Argentines would rather deploy COMPLETELY impotent measures against the Falklands to punish them for refusing to be Argentine, than play clever and get something out of the Islands instead of jack squit.
The Argentines will never see in a million years that when the Falklands oil money comes in it could be used to buy Argentine goods, services and labour.
Effectively the Argentines would then gain the Falklands oil money- not for nothing, though the profit on the goods etc would be theirs, without them having the hard work of getting the oil out.
I hope Macri has the powers of logic to work this out, but I will not be surprised if he keeps spewing out, “The Sour Grapes are ours.”
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Apr 26th, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact it that the FI do exist with it's history (with our history since both sides were involved) that includes a war and plenty of other pending issues. So, demanding a change on the Argentine side without thinking about what will have to be change on the British side won't end well. We know this history before.
FI oil “adventure” seems to be in a trap without the cooperation with Argentina. Other economic developements seems to be stagnant in the FI without Argentina....
I do agree that changes must be done regarding the Argentine relationship to the UK. But..what about the changes the UK must do?
In Argentina we say that “two are needed to dance tango”...I always prefer to mention Albert Einstein words: “Insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results”.
With both sider repeating like parrots “the Island are ours” I don't see any chance of changes.
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Apr 26th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 Pete Bog
I agree,
It was worth a try,
But as you have said in the past, Argentina really has no interest in the people or the islands; they just want the resources,
They tried diplomacy [one sided]
This failed, so they used violence,
This also failed, so they tried, bullying, abusing, threatening, blockading, intimidation, blackmail,
Now as this is simply failing, they now try to intimidate and bully other countries and the UN , jumping on any and every little item to take advantage of,
And yet all they are doing, is making the islanders, even more determined never to have anything to do with them in case they use it against you,
And yet to top it all of, CFK and the Firm, have the disgusting humiliating abusive cheek,
To tell the world that they, support freedom, democracy, and a sense of fair play,
And are an avid supporter of human rights,
This in its self is an insult to every person who died in the Falklands war,
And every human being on the planet that have died , for another abuse of their rights.
just my thought..
Pagerman practically the best thing for argentina is get rid of the political games and animosity. Argentina needs to stop bullying and insulting the falklanders. It needs to encourage trade so that argentine companies establish themselves on the islands whilst islanders travel more to Bueneos Aires and estblish links. Islanders and Argentines will meet without the noise in the background , form business links, relationships, marry have children etc and in 30 or even 20 years time the islanders might decide they want to be part of Argentina because they or their kids are half argentine they speak spanish they have business links in Argentina. That is the easiest least expensive way the islands would be become Argentine.
Apr 26th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Pgerman
Apr 27th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“FI oil “adventure” seems to be in a trap without the cooperation with Argentina.”
It would progress better perhaps with Argentinian co-operation , but Argentine opposition isn't stopping the oil exploration-and with a small population (i.e 3000 versus Argentina's 41 000 000) the Islanders don't need the oil finds to be massive to improve their lives.
The oil exploration is progressing, even if slowly, despite Argentine opposition, but Argentina isn't actually gaining anything at all, except issuing press releases about putting oil workers in prison, which is simply laughable and an impotent threat-if they come to the Falklands to arrest these oil workers, they'll be kicked back to BA or arrested themselves.
Because the Argentines don't want to cooperate with ports, the Islanders will simply first have a floating dock and then a deep water port. I hope it will be built near San Carlos.
A deep water port in the Falklands will eventually compete with Southern American ports, whereas if Argentina had co-operated, this economic competition, even if small to begin with, would not be planned or exist.
If there was a deep water port in the Falklands, fair enough it would not have the brothels as in the SA ports but there won't be nutcases burning tyres and intimidating tourists either-also the currency in the Falklands is likely to be more stable-so a good place to put into port-unless you want to get bladdered and grab a prosser.
The point is that with or without Argentine help the oil prospecting (which Argentine oil companies do not have the expertise to carry out-they would, like the Falklanders, have to get foreign firms to drill), the oil industry will progress regardless-the difference being without Argentine resources (workers, suppliers and ports) Argentina is getting a big, fat zero, whereas if they did, that would be their best (and only)way at getting back at the Islanders,i.e. taking their money which results from the oil.
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