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Argentina warns US acting ambassador on 'default' statements and 'deplores lack of support'

Wednesday, September 17th 2014 - 01:11 UTC
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United States interim ambassador to Argentina Kevin Sullivan was summoned to foreign minister Hector Timerman's office and was informed of ”the profound and firm rejection of the Argentine government to the US diplomat’s inappropriate statements”, according to the statement from the ministry made public on Tuesday. Read full article

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  • CabezaDura2

    They are trying to pick on the americans as much as they can to exploit politically at home fighting “The Empire”... The Obama administration understands this.

    But putting the other cheek all the time has its limits.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Wow...just wow.

    Does Timmerbitch have shares in the popcorn industry?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    First getting into bed with China and now threatening the US..........they either have bigger balls than King Kong or the intelligence of a dog turd.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 313toBioBio

    Timmerman's patria is Israel and he's taking out his anger on the Argentine people for his family's past persecution. Kabuki theatre, this is the ambassador that said the smart money is moving into Argentina...back in June the article was on here. I think that was the market top? And the height of BS optimism about some kind of a deal. Some kind of deal ignoring Cristina is an anti-crist-ina witch who wants to create hunger and suffering and can be in exile when it comes down.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    3.
    No, they are simply confident that the US will not hit them back - which is kind of true- that explains the boldness of leaders like Morales, Chavez, Correa, Kirchner and others in attacking the US for more than a decade

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @5

    What would they hit back with. Restriction of dollars? HAHAHAHAHA.

    Shutting down our oil exports to them? HAHAHAHA

    Cutting the flow of bilateral trade? LOL

    Threaten the millions of Argies flowing across the US border? :D

    They have nothing at their disposal. They searched a US plane for Pete's sake. They just have nothing.

    And this is not just Obama. Back in 2005 Argentina humiliated Bush and the USA in Mar del Plata and they couldn't do anything either.

    Unlike with Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean, or northern South America (or the Pacific Alliance due to trade, or Uruguay/Paraguay due to their small size), the USA has no leverage on Argentina: economic, financial, migratory, trade, or cultural. None.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    6. The US only needs to humiliate and tell Argentina for what it is. A Reagan style approach would do just fine. Argentina is perhaps the most hated country in Latam. The US can easily capitalize on that.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @7

    And what would humiliating words and a tell-off do? Change our minds to be buddies with them? hahahaha

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    For example the US President just need to make jokes about the Argentines (that will have a big mpact on Argentine fragile ego) like Reagan did about the soviets...
    Kick Cristina out of the G-20. Obama simply needs to say to her in her face at any summit“You are a insane corrupt thieft and a liar”... End off.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 313toBioBio

    @9 He's a corrupt and insane liar too. See his nobel peace prize well earned with Syrian Christian blood. He's been stoking ww3 in Syria for 2 years. He's the Hollywood celebrity president that destroyed the world while promising peace. He's the one who shook hands with Raul Castro, He's the one who reached out to Chavez and gave him a green light.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @9

    The US can't kick Argentina unilaterally out of the G20

    Saudia Arabia
    South Africa
    China
    Russia
    India
    Mexico
    Brazil
    Turkey
    Indonesia

    That's 9 votes right there against kicking ARG out.

    And I can only see two sure votes to kick ARG out: US an UK, our eternal enemies bent on our destruction.

    I don't even see Australia or Canada voting with them. At best abstaining if that is an option. I don't see Germany taking such an aggressive action, it's not their modern style. And no way France, Italy and South Korea would vote for that. Neither would Spain or Holland under “EU”.

    So no chance. But I hope they try though, it would prove once and for all to our people that we need to treat US and UK as people who wish us DEATH.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Doesn't Argentina's ambassador to the UK spout all kinds of anti-UK drivel.

    I never heard of her getting summoned and rebuked by the UK government.

    Argentina dishes it out but they won't tolerate a word of it against themselves.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    9. I dont know Troll...For sure there is at least a dozen countries that are more powerfull and should be in that seat, so objectively they can kick Argentina out.
    But my point is if I was President of the USA I would have Maduro jumping on one foot avoiding tomahawk missils daily flying to Caracas and CFK cleaning the Oval Office with her toungue. They American presidents are too PC nice guys. They dont know how to exercise power and they end up being butt fingered in these anti american countries ever so often.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @11 boring boy

    “So no chance. But I hope they try though, it would prove once and for all to our people that we need to treat US and UK as people who wish us DEATH”

    yawnnn...

    sure, buddy

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @12

    The UK have more pressing concerns to attend to... like the existence of the UK beyond the next 48 hours.

    @13

    But that's not how it happens in such bodies. No one is ever kicked out. The forum is just expanded.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    15.

    Actually the G-8 just reduced itself back to the G-7...

    Just imagine if the Americans had a Putin like character to do their foreign policy?? WOW

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @16

    It's temporary and Russia was never really part of the group, it was an invitee.

    I don't see the problem with being anti-American really. I'm not saying we proactively piss them off, but the USA has NEVER been our friend so why should we be.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 313toBioBio

    @13 Banks and the elite own the Kirchners, Maduro, Obama's white house. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz shed light on the lack of freedoms in Argentina, but Obamas corrupt ambassadors were super friendly to this regime and now when it's too late they start Bi+ching. Obama can't make fun of this soviet union that's falling because he himself is a Marxist. Why would he go criticize these leaders who do the same, but just have quicker falls because they are not a world power? I guess that would make him hypocritical.. Oh wait he already is the biggest hypocrite of the century, segun MP in Ireland Clare Daley, in a well summed up speech. Madonna toured the world preaching the gospel of world peace through Obama, beginning in Israel...what people don't notice is that When Dec 20th came along, her concerts in Santiago and Cordoba were ruined....It doesn't rain in Santiago in December like that. A winter storm came for one day only.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    17. The USA is too damn good guy, and it is not healthy for the rest of Latam.

    You seem to be have missing the news lately. The G-8 no longer exists.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/world/europe/obama-russia-crimea.html

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @18

    Marco Rubio talking about the lack of freedoms?

    In Argentina, gays can marry. In the USA?
    In Argentina, people can travel to Cuba. In the USA?
    In Argentina, people can get free medical care. In the USA?
    In Argentina, people can protest by blocking streets. In the USA?
    In Argentina, slaves were freed starting in 1813. In the USA?
    In Argentina, people can vote for 23 political parties in elections. In the USA?
    In Argentina, minors can vote. In the USA?
    In Argentina, babies have the right to live before they are born. In the USA?
    In Argentina, the government can't kill its citizens through courts. In the USA?
    In Argentina, women represent 1/3 of Congress. In the USA?
    In Argentina, animals are sentient cohabitants. In the USA? (property with no rights)

    .... WHICH COUNTRY IS FREER?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 313toBioBio

    @20 Timerman's rebuttal included your first point. Gays can marry...ok. Cristina stole the energy, food, dollars, future, retirement, restricted the media, destroyed education, Gays can marry..who cares? Honestly, Gays in Argentina will be hungry and in the dark thanks to Kirchnerismo. And..gays can get married in many US states...moving on.

    ..Americans do go to Cuba. I lived in Miami and it was the thing to do. Cuban Americans would take the Cubans all of the stuff like Coffee and Deoderant that doesn't exist in cuba.

    Ignorant minors can vote thanks to Cristina. Can Minors work? Why would someone have the right to vote who has never paid taxes? Taxation without representation?

    In Argentina Monsanto can spray on Chaco, Santa Fe spreading cancer and destroying a generation.

    Is the USA banning the purchase of Argentine pesos? No. The other way around.

    In Argentina they work for these little pieces of paper called pesos and queen Cristina and Kiciloff decide the value. Slavery. Don't like the pesticides? Too bad.. You don't have the right to save dollars to move into a villa.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Regarding the current topic, can we go to war yet? “Apocalypse predictors haven't been this excited since the war.” ;)
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/169916/timerman-meets-sullivan-warns-of-most-severe-measures-in-default-comments-spat

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    The Self-Destruct mode continues on into Second gear.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Argentine Government!

    Has anyone checked the phsychiatrict Institutions?

    It needs doing PDQ because some of the residents are missing and have been for sometime.

    Still, on the positive side, they know where to find them!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @20

    Look at your list of freedoms....and apply to the UK.

    Who invented most of them, who does most of them the best?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    The Ambassador must be hoping they declare him “persona non grata” and then he can get out of the “hell hole”!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    I do hope they break off diplomatic relations. But then that's just me, always looking on the bright side. I can just see the reaction in the states! ;)

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Blaming the USA for your own over-borrowing and failing to take responsability for your own debt, is not good diplomacy,especially when dealing with the USA. Hector is digging his grave in stoney ground but doing it well. As the dollar/peso rate accelerates beyond 15...so will the demise of this corrupt and mentally ill government. Goodbye Hector.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    As the US ambassador left Mr Timmerman's office, he tossed half a dollar into Mr Timmerman's tips jar on the desk..

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    22. Thank you! Shoot already, please. The sewage that streams from the mouth of rotting roadkill is sheer torture.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Finally, Foreign Minister Hector Timerman assured that in case of further interruptions in the internal affairs of the Republic of Argentina, the most severe measures will be adopted, (as) stipulated by the Vienna Convention over the conduct of diplomatic representatives.”

    The United States government representative, tells the truth, tells it like it is and Hectoring Hector reacts by threatening 'severe measures' againstb the US!

    Who do these morons think they are?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    And the Big Bad Wolf huffed and puffed and couldn't blow down the brick house. Once again, Argentines are pompous little blowhards, making unfounded self-serving claims, threats and pleas backed by blindly evil machinations.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    Piss of the American people,great idea!
    Next find foot,take aim,fire!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @29
    You just made my day PMSL

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Troll switching to full meltdown mode...anarchy is freedom and the G20 is some sort of party with invitation through popularity.

    Who knew?...

    I need more popcorn.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    I rather enjoy the Argies pissing off the Americans. Keep it up guys.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    In Argentina, gays can marry. In the USA? YES, in California, New York State & others
    In Argentina, people can travel to Cuba. In the USA? YES, via Mexico and other routes.
    In Argentina, people can get free medical care. In the USA? Yes.
    In Argentina, people can protest by blocking streets. In the USA? Of course, they can!
    In Argentina, slaves were freed starting in 1813. In the USA? What the f… do you think the American Civil War was all about?
    In Argentina, people can vote for 23 political parties in elections. In the USA? 23 political parties? No wonder Argentina is such a political mess - nothing to be proud about!
    In Argentina, minors can vote. In the USA? Depends on what age one is declared an adult - in the US is usually 18.
    In Argentina, babies have the right to live before they are born. In the USA? What does this mean?
    In Argentina, the government can't kill its citizens through courts. In the USA? Not all states in the US allow capital punishment but at least Capital Punishment is(sadly) legal meanwhile in Argentina people die of hunger because of the political system and mismanagement of the country's resources.
    In Argentina, women represent 1/3 of Congress. In the USA? So?
    In Argentina, animals are sentient cohabitants. In the USA? (property with no rights) What the f--- does this mean?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I see the reaction by Gollum to the US speaking the truth to be a little on the soft side.

    No “WE DEMAND” or direct threats other than throwing the A.A. out of the country. Oh yeah, the cowards of SA are about to do that, not.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina warns US
    Be warned America, be very warned,
    they have many rowing boats, and lots of Barbie dolls ,
    and deadly teddy bears in reserve,

    you Americans have been warned...lol

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    US State deals with all kinds of crazies around the world. Mostly I think they sit there quietly and roll their eyes.
    These people are weak and stupid their bluster is meaningless.
    As they say in GOT, the lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
    Anyhoo, the noose is getting tighter, stupid animals bark and bite when they are cornered.
    We can sit back and watch it all fall apart, just like we've done in Venezuela.
    Its easier and more palatable for the world to let countries destroy themselves.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Dear Gollum

    I dare you to expel the US ambassador .

    Old Chinese proverb of the day :
    “ Misogynists with big feet shouldn't tap on keyboards ” .

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    40.
    A paradox is that most emblematic destruction and assaults on US embassies Benghazi 2012 and Teheran 1979-1981 occured during weak non assertive administrations.
    You might think like that, but these people will go wild if they are cornered the next day you have D'Elia torching your embassy and confiscating youur companies.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    41.They're doing the same think Venezuela did, they expelled a few Embassy workers, then we retaliated, it is just a game that weak and stupid dictators play.
    It just make s them look like spoiled teenagers.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kirk Nelson

    @ 20
    Have you noticed how many and repeatedly times the United States appears on the Nobel Price list and what about Argentina?
    The US created and gave to the world great benefits to humanity such as the electricity, the automobile, the airplane, the telephone, the computer, medical equipments, medicines. Besides, the US has created and developed oil crude machinery and equipment and refineries, that is right after discovering the potential benefits to humankind of petroleuml and its derivates, and what about Argentina? immigrate to the USA?

    Kirk Nelson,
    New York, NY USA

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    GET OUT OF DEFAULT STUPID.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    What happened to all the African slaves freed in Argentina. Did they all cross the border into Brazil?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @44

    Argentines don't migrate to the USA much at all. Not our cup of tea.

    I wouldn't be so proud to be on the Nobel prize. Everyone knows it is a bought, politicized prize of old, senile white European racists.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    46.
    Nope, they pretty much were cannon fodder in the civil wars and Paraguay wars and were killed out.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 47 mamarracho No.2

    Kindly have the courtesy to respond to my 37.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    44 Kirk Nelson

    I hate to burst your bubble but the telephone was Scottish, the automobile was German and the first computer was built in a hut in England during WW2

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    37 doesn't deserve a rejoinder. Besides you did not even ask a question.

    I mean to with a straight face state that is the same that gays have freedom to marry in some states vs freedom to marry in an entire country is ludicrous.

    And in the next one, that getting to a country by having to purposefully take a flight to another country is the same freedom as a non-stop flight is where I stopped reading.

    And BTW, the last one means animals have rights in Argentina. Something of course Anglos don't care much about, animals.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    As for electricity...ever heard of Faraday?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @5o

    As for the invention of the modern Emergency and Operation room of any hospital... ever heard of Finnochietto?

    As for the first stable helicopter flight, ever heard of Raul Pateras-Pescara?

    As for the modern writing tool without inking jet to a feather, ever heard of where Lazlo Biro began production of the modern pen, which then the British on visit saw schoolchildren using this “wonder tool”?

    As for using blood transfusion to save your life, you know Luis Agote and also where the first transfusion of PURE blood without sodium dilution for preservation was made?

    As for modern commercial radio, you know WHERE the first permanent broadcast was aired on August 27, 1920?

    As for the modern criminal investigation system with fingerprinting, you know who Juan Vucetich was and which was the first country to use this technology?

    As for modern screw caps that are sealed and you can twist to break the neck off, know where they were first used?

    As for the world's first animated film, know where that was invented?

    As for the world's first burned skin healing patch, know where that was first used?

    I think its funny you northern losers for years have said Argenitna has brought nothing to the world, and I always knew you people were full of it.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Do not rise to the bait @51 re. Animal Rights

    he obviously does not know what he is talking about or it's a deliberate provocation.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    Timerman just made my day.

    Support Argentina ... or else!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @53 : Argentina brought a lot to the world , back then .
    Now emergency units in hospitals are closed for lack of funds , kids go without an education , millions of hectares flood and people die due to lack of drainage programmes , drug abuse is out of control , trains crash , the airline loses U$S3M a day , there are power outages , gas has gone up 400% , multinationals are having lay off workers or are pulling out altogether ( and being accused of “ terrorism ” for doing so ) , the K's get richer by the minute , the murder rate is one of the highest in the world , as is the inflation rate , AND the country is in default but hey , you think it's perfect .
    Your name's not Kicillof by any chance ?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @56

    No, it's Fruitcake. ;)

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #50 Idlehands

    “I hate to burst your bubble but the telephone was Scottish, the automobile was German and the first computer was built in a hut in England during WW2”

    Are you daft enough to try to convince the readers here that Alexander Graham Bell was not from the United States? Please give me a break.

    Regarding the first real automobile, via Wikipedia: “Karl Benz, a Bavarian immigrant, working at the Ford motor assembly plant in Dearborn, Michigan was deported from the United States in 1893 for theft of car designs...”

    Finally, the first true computer was designed by Commodore Matthew Perry, who after opening up the Japanese market to sell American cheap products there, came back to home with his pockets stuffed with primitive transistors and created the Commodore 1 computer. (Version 64 was very popular in the late 20th century.

    Next thing you'll try to convince us is that the Americans were not the first nation to put a man in space...

    #56 Unsurping Pirate

    You forgot to mention they have the only military tank equipped with three reverse gears for rapid retreats...

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @39 Briton:

    Maybe to counter Argentinean aggression, the US should upgrade their military.

    I'm sure he FIG would be willing to sell them a few penguins, they seem to petrify those pesky Latin imperials!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    53

    Your helicopter Rg, was working in of all places, Europe! Oh my gosh!

    Your RG finger printer was using patterns categorised by a Brit named Falds and an Italian, in Europe and god knows how many others including the chinese, oh my gosh!

    Your RG blood transfusion genius was following up the first transfusion given in 1840 at St Georges Hospital, London, in Europe, Oh my gosh!

    Don't you just hate those Europeans?

    Well, in fact, yes you do!

    I could look up the other, but what's the point?

    PMSL

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @58 : I am still struggling to picture Gollum lecturing the US ambassador .
    I bet they simply had a nice cup of coffee and a chat about the weather and then Gollum went to brief Pagina 12 on how he almost declared war on the US for slander .

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #47 dipshit......the northeast is inundated with so many Argentine's that, like Little Chain and Italy.....there are a number of cities with areas called Little Argentina. But your lack or travel precludes you from know that. Check out Greenwich CT and Stamford.....HUGH RG communities.

    you tobi....are the worst racist on this sight and should be SOS.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @62
    “you tobi....are the worst racist on this sight and should be SOS.”

    Rest easy on that account, he's likely to be shot for his shoes during upcoming festivities as things fall apart. ;)

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    lol

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    and I always thought one of those dim Europeans invented the biro, before going off to help colonize SA...

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @62 : I believe Florida is actually full of RG's too . So is Spain , Britain , Italy , Australia and even NZ .

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Toby, Did Argentina invent Hyperinflation? That and Tango are probably what you're know for.

    15.17/1
    Bahahahaha

    Inflation will be 3 digits next year if something drastic doesn't happen.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. Oh no, it's far more straightforward. For instance, a press conference on the impartiality of the US justice system. A question about Judge Griesa and “argieland”. and Obama just asks “where is argieland”? Then goes on to praise US and UK judicial systems. The 'model for the world'. As, indeed, they are.
    @11. Argieland has no 'right' to be in the G20. It's there, temporarily, to give wealthy countries an idea of what poor countries are thinking. Just need to revise that arrangement. It's not as though argieland is sufficiently wealthy. By 4 separate measures, argieland gets position 21. Basically, it comes in at position 26. And that was a year ago! Fraudulent argieland.
    @15. There will ALWAYS be a United Kingdom. The treachery of scotchland is irrelevant. Conquered before, it can be conquered again.
    And remind us how Russia wasn't 'invited' to the G8.
    @17. Perhaps you should think how, if it chooses to exert itself, the oceans and the sky belong to the US. There was a time when the oceans belonged to Britain. And they may do again. Who knows how many carriers Britain intends to build? Casting off scotchland gives Britain another £45 billion to spend. That could be 14 carriers. A total of 16.
    @20. Just one small point. You slaughter your sentient co-inhabitants? And then you eat them? Sorry, no chance of you getting out of your cage for the next 100 years.
    @40. Do your guys have a week to spare? Sail every carrier to within range. Identify all suitable land-based aircraft. Wait a while. Despatch every available US Navy vessels to sail up and down the argie coast. Launch aircraft. Don't be 'shy', get them to fly directly over Buenos Aires. Perhaps, just to press the point, some US vessels could stream the Union Flag as well as the Stars and Stripes. Are we not the most reliable ally you have ever had, or ever will have?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #66 NYC, Connecticut, Chicago, Philly and Florida are huge RG communities. They have stores that sell Argentine products....even butchers that sell RG cuts....vacio, entrana, lomo etc.etc........really small amounts according to dipshit.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Captain Poppy,

    Allen Edmonds makes an outstanding shoe. I'm also fortunate to own a pair.

    Say all the negative things you wish about Argentina, but my favorite shoemaker in the world is López Taibo in Recoleta. I've been wearing their shoes since the early 90's.

    As far as women's clothing, my wife and daughters have never had any difficulty in find their sizes and style in the streets of Palermo Soho.

    Conqueror,

    Why would you want to waste that many smart bombs and tomahawk cruise missiles? Four submarine launched ICBMs instead would do the job nicely.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Well Hector, that’s is quite a tirade.

    Particularly liked the “further interruptions in the internal affairs of the Republic of Argentina”, comment.

    Take note Washington, “there can be no talk of default”, you have now been told for the last time, next time good ol Hector will get really shitty, and CFK will stop hiding looted assets in the US.

    How to win friends and influence people, TinPot style. Another triumph of Argentine diplomacy in the making.

    @20 4n control
    You forgot the universal freedom to starve.

    How is that working out in Argentina these days?

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  • ChrisR

    @ 67 yankeeboy

    Tango was devised by a Uruguayo who then went to live in BsAs.

    Argies had nothing to do with it other than to climb on the band-wagon and lie that they did devise it.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina still lives in cuckoo land,
    she threatens a lot, but does very little.

    reminds of Talk Talk.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #72 ChrisR

    Yes, and it was originally danced in bordellos by men waiting for their whores to be available.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @65

    Nah that was an RG and if I ever find him, I am going to send him the cleaning bill for those hundreds of shirts with the ink stain in the pocket!!!!

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Finally, Foreign Minister Hector Timerman assured that in case of further interruptions in the internal affairs of the Republic of Argentina, the most severe measures will be adopted

    This the world waits to see,???????????????

    just what severe measures could Argentina take,
    have the coke and popcorn ready, this could be fun when it starts.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Nostrils,

    “As for the modern writing tool without inking jet to a feather, ever heard of where Lazlo Biro began production of the modern pen, which then the British on visit saw schoolchildren using this “wonder tool”?”

    Nostrils, you know full well that Biro had his company and British patents for his pen taken from him by Argentine extortion:

    Biro pen

    http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ballpen.htm

    http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ballpen.htm

    “Swirling within and around the arc of these two lives, Moldova illustrates how citizenship and nationalism can be used in conjunction with patent laws and international/national corporate capitalism to peel away from individual innovators and entrepreneurs their ownership of intellectual property.
    For example, Bíró handed over a sizable percentage of his shares to his Argentine partners to free his family from fascist Hungary.”

    http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ballpen.htm

    “Bíró filed a British patent on 15 June 1938.[5]”

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @77
    “Nostrils, you know full well that Biro had his company and British patents for his pen taken from him by Argentine extortion”

    Like so much of what he “contributes,” based on lies, half truths and fantasy, it is all with one aim, to draw attention away from the real issue of the article he comments on. How much longer until his next reference to the “Annunaki?” ;)

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    15 4n conTroll

    “The UK have more pressing concerns to attend to... like the existence of the UK beyond the next 48 hours.”

    Oh... I get it. You think that if Scotland leaves the UK, it won't be the UK any more?? What a silly little troll, you are. We will still be the United Kingdom of Great Britain even if Scotland leaves, it just won't have Scotland in it. You see? I've tried to keep the words short so you can understand them. You see, if Scotland stays, we will still be GREAT Britain. If Scotland leaves we will STILL be GREAT Britain.

    Where as, no matter what happens, Argentina will still be the international equivalent of a petulant teenager.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    The US should tell Timermann and CFK to screw off...why should the US listen to such crap ?
    @37 gordo1
    Thanks for telling the troll where to get off....but his concern with gay marriage rights is slightly suspicious...he must be dying to come out of the closet, but his Mommy's shoes don't fit him...
    @47 4nTroll
    “Argentines don't migrate to the USA much at all.”
    You couldn't be further off the mark. Miami is full of them....they go there, not only as tourists, but to buy houses, open businesses and to settle down...obviously, I'm referring to the smarter Argentines, who have had enough of CFK.
    As to your disdain of the Nobel winners, and your statement “everyone” knows the award is bought ?? who is 'everyone' ?? you ?? what little argie turdy birdie told you ?? by the way you boast about your studying, I thought you'd know better.

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #80. Jack Bauer

    Apparently the Obama administration was not happy over political posturing and anti-NAFTA comments made when he first assumed office. Hillary, his Secretary of State, had taken a strong dislike to the Kirchner administration while she was a Senator and strongly urged the President to focus on Brazil, with a strategy of concentrating on Columbia and Chile as examples for the region to follow. When Argentina was left off the American Presidential tour of South American and CFK threw their little hissy fit over the American cargo jet, Obama personally put her on his (excuse the term) blacklist...

    Of course, the whole NSA mess was exposed an the Brazilian government has put Obama on a black list as well.... Let the perra sulk.

    It's almost as bad as a Brazilian telenovela...

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  • Captain Poppy

    Okay let's say this is the case, who do you think will be on the short stick? Brazil, USA or Argentina......lol

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    American Airlines is restricting ticket purchases. Hmm just like the airlines did in Venezuela.
    Hmm
    One wonders why Rgs think that they will never suffer like they do in Venezuela.
    I wonder why?
    Methinks they're on the same road, there were about 5 years behind now they've been increasing their speed and may end up overtaking them sooner than I thought.
    My oh my.
    What happens when the blue rate is 100% more than the gov't rate
    What happen??
    Gosh I wish Think were around to offer his sage advice. (gag)
    I wonder if he's too busy handing out Yes pamphlets still?

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @81 Chicureo
    “Hillary, his Secretary of State, had taken a strong dislike to the Kirchner administration”......well, that 's about the only thing she and I have in common.
    Anyway, regarding Brazil's putting OB on the blacklist ( as you say, pardon the pun), this is nothing new. Long before the Dumboass Dilma got peeved because the NSA was spying on her, it was notorious that the Brazilian Federal Government was not friendly towards the USA...This hostility started at the beginning of the Lulla years - when Lulla befriended all the wannabee dictators of Latin America and Africa (even Ahmahdinejad of Iran) - and has become very clear over recent years, when at every vote at the UN, Brazil always votes against the USA. These stupid socialists in Brazil, much like CFK, believe they can get along just fine with other shitty governments, in detriment of good relations and trade with countries that count.
    @82 Captain
    I think the short stick is going to Argentina. Don't think the USA really expects much from them anymore, and basically just wants to keep things ticking over. Brazil has a lot more to lose, and while the PT based government's unfriendly rhetoric may be needed to appease the less moderate party members, they know damned well that deep down, they can only push so far...

    Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #83 YB

    Now this is interesting...

    #84

    I have little respect for Obama, Dilma. Cristina, Evo, Maduro, Bachelet...

    Sep 18th, 2014 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    15# outofconTroll
    The UK have more pressing concerns to attend to... like the existence of the UK beyond the next 48 hours.

    It's not often that you argie trolls get it right; but - you are wrong again!

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Crackpot

    @#58 “Are you daft enough to try to convince the readers here that Alexander Graham Bell was not from the United States? Please give me a break.”

    Yes, you numb-nut. He was born in Scotland and didn't leave the UK until he was 23 years old.
    Assuming that you are from Argentina, if you decided to leave the country at the age of 23, would you suddenly no longer be Argentinian? Saying that, most probably wouldn't want to admit it.

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    87. Fail.

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 70 Chicureo who wrote: “Say all the negative things you wish about Argentina”

    Many, if not most, of us say lots of positive things about beautiful Argentina and the nice Argentinos you always meet in the provinces, and occasionally in Buenos Aires - the government, its cronies, and some of the crazy Argentines (Skrink, Tobias, Marcos Woodhead, ...) however, are in a much lower league.

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @87 Crackpot,
    You are right .
    That Alexander Graham Bell was a Scotsman, there's no doubt. He was born in Edimburgh in 1847 and migrated to the USA at the age of 23. Before leaving Scotland, he had already partially invented what would later become the telehone, patented in the USA in 1876. Perhaps the migration part is where the confusion arose.

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 88 yankeeboy
    “Fail.”

    No, no, no, Fianna Fail is an Irish Republican Party.

    Alexander Graham Bell, (born March 3, 1847, Edinburgh, Scotland—died August 2, 1922, Beinn Bhreagh, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, Canada), Scottish-born American inventor, scientist, and teacher of the deaf whose foremost accomplishments were the invention of the telephone (1876) and the refinement of the phonograph (1886).

    Encyclopædia Britannica:
    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/59564/Alexander-Graham-Bell

    Sep 19th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    ONE MORE IGNORANT WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND KIRCHNERISM.
    It wouldn't be extrange if the words of this guy were part of the strategy of the vultures. This kind of people (the vultures and their lobbists) must think that if they publish articles in some of the most important financial newspapers of the world, or if they make thritening comments before press, they'll scare c. f. k., perhaps the vultures think that c. f. k. is a sepoy like many members of the different political parties from the opposition, who often say that they would pay the vultures all what they want, after the rulling of their adict judge griesa.
    However, what those cretins don't say, is that if griesa's decision can't be complied by the gvernment, is because it violates articles 2 and 3 of both debt restructurings, which don't let the government make an unequal payment to any bone holder, than what was accorded with all the rest of them who accepted any of both restructurings, it 's not just for the ruffo article (right upon future offers).
    After hearing the posture of different members from the opposition, i think that in the future we will have to thank that this rulling appeared during c. f. k.'s government.
    It's perfectly expectable that local economic power, and the vultures, will keep on doing all they can, in order to achieve cristina leaves office spiting blood, in fact, since 2007 there were 9 economic runs, however, despite all the problems that our economy has, if this time we can resist, is because we aren't in a vulnerable situation, as we were in 1989, when a financial coup d'etat broke raul alfonsin's government down.
    Nobody is inocent, and all politicians know perfectly what vultures are, however despite all legitimate critics that anybody can make in relation to c. f. k's falencies, she is one of the few leaders who put a limit to economic power, some battles were won by her, and others were lost, but unless she has always been disposed to give the battles.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    92 axel arg

    oh axel, axel, AXEL!!!

    Just pay the money yeah? Simple. Job done. Just pay the money and then it will be done.

    and this word you seem to have a hard on over... “sepoy” to quote “The Princess Bride” :- “I do not think it means, what you think it means”.

    Simply put:- You pay what you owe. If you borrow money and don't pay it back, that makes you a thief.

    If you dance, you must pay the piper.

    The dance is over. Now it's time to pay up.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @92 Axel
    I am not going to get into the legal aspects of Argentina's default, Judge Griesa's ruling, or Argentina's unilateral decisions regarding the payment of their debt, but one thing you said in your 1st paragraph, sounds a bit 'off ' :

    quote ”This kind of people (the vultures and their lobbists) must think that if they publish articles in some of the most important financial newspapers of the world, or if they make threatening comments before press, they'll scare c. f. k...., “unquote.

    It's funny, but the only people I see making empty threats and bravado-like rhetoric in front of the press, is CFK and her Secretaries of State....”WE will do this, WE will do that....WE will not accept that....and it goes on and on...when is she going to put “her” money where her mouth is ??...and speak for the country for a change, not only for herself and her cronies. She thinks this is all about her.
    ,

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Why doesn't Argentina simply give Paul Singer and the rest of the bond holders the three most southern provinces, ie the ones that have all the oil , in exchange for cancelling the debt ?
    Hardly anyone lives there , it's cold , Argentina does not have the money , diplomacy or economic nous for developing the oil fields anyway , so what's the downside ?
    The upside is they can then spend the next 150 years claiming it back , telling the whole world how they've been shat on by the greedy yanquees and British imperialists .....again .

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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