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CFK yearns UK 'will agree to talk about Malvinas', praises US-Cuba accord

Friday, December 19th 2014 - 08:04 UTC
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Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner wishes the United Kingdom would agree to discuss the issue of the Malvinas (Falklands) just like US, Cuba talked over their differences Read full article

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  • Troy Tempest

    ho ho, the 'ho thinks the cause of the Malvinistas is as significant as the US embargo on Cuba, a Communist nation of 11 million people sitting on their doorstep, who expropriated property and businesses from the 'States, and hosted an arsenal of nuclear weapons...

    She delusional !!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I would suggest Cuba is not a done deal yet, still has to be approved by Congress I guess. What medication is she on? The USA is not talking to the Cubanos about sovereignty and anyway unless she invites the FALKLANDERS to the negociating table it isn't going to happen. So just jog on and sort your own country out before interfering in another country THE FALKLANDS.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RayNewman

    What does she want? Is she asking for diplomatic relations with the Falkland Islands and the exchange of ambassadors with the islanders?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    So the US and Cuba being nice to each other and the UK relinquishing sovereignty of the Falkland Islands to Argentina are the same thing?

    The UK has always said that they are happy to talk to Argentina on this issue so long as the Falkland Islanders are present and their wishes are respected. In fact we offered this to Hector Timmerman this year when he visited London and he declined?

    The matter is settled as far as the UK is concerned.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faulconbridge

    As the USA has decided to stop boycotting and trying to isolate the inhabitants of an island some miles off their coast and to stop trying to overthrow its government that's a very good example for CFK to follow.
    That is what she means to do, isn't it?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    You can't live in the Western World and not abide by the UN Charter and resolutions.

    All peoples have the right to self determination
    All people's of NSGTs have the right to self determination.
    Britain is not breaking any relevant resolution.

    I saw no admission from the “yanks” that Castro was “right”. Merely pity for the Cuban people who would starve now that Venezualan oil has dried up.

    Silly cow.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Instead of “A Day of Dignity for those who don't give up” *rolls eyes*

    CFK should just have “ A Day for The PiratesThat Don't Do Anything”

    - reminds me of a song...

    :-D

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    “If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right”

    They did no suvh thing. Is she forgetting that it all started with Castro agreeing to host Soviet nuclear missiles that were targetted at the USA ?????

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Desperate stuff from CFK to cheer up the her delusional followers that believe in Argentina's so-called rights which in reality are illegitimate claims to the islands. Yes we can talk and reach agreements like we did in the '90s on fisheries, flights and hydrocarbons but these were all voided by Argentina.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right, how come they [the British] will not sit down and talk about something the entire world is calling for?,”

    Oh yes, I can see “this happening in the next 25 years”!

    I was dead right with my “TMBOA = The Mad Bitch Of Argentina © ChrisR 2011”.

    Her manic - depressive illness is bordering on real insanity if this utter nonsense is anything to go by.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    Lets get this straight:

    The US is talking to the People of Cuba
    The US does not have in it's constitution a claim on Cuba.
    The US did not successfully invade Cuba, only for democracy to be restored some 80 days later.

    Compare this to Argentina continued belligerent and bullying behaviour towards the People of the Falkland Islands.

    The upcoming top gear special(s) and series of An Island Parish will show the peoples of Argentina and The Falkland islands in their true light.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right”

    Has this cunt walked through the streets , seen the studebakers and Hudson's driving around, collapsing buildings........Castro's way of life is right.....for who? Contrast the public to to Castro's way of life in their imperial mansions.

    Cuba.....banana's.....Falklands......Lime's....two different fruit in two different bags. Someone remove that cuntface.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Yes I think Kristina needs to talk to you guys directly.

    I will gladly pay for her flight to Las Malvinas. (One way of course, we don't want her back).

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Robert English

    Mad bad and dangers to know !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    “If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right, how come they [the British] will not sit down and talk about something the entire world is calling for?”

    I think that they [the British] are more than happy to discuss the Falkland Islands with elected representatives of Argentina and the Falkland Islands.

    It's Argentina that can't seem to cope with the idea that the Falkland Islanders, who have their own elected government (which isn't crooked enough to be shrunk down and used as a corkscrew), will have to be represented at any discussions, do in fact exist, and don't actually want to be part of Argentina.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    “You can't live in the western, civilised world and not abide by the resolutions of the United Nations,” she added. Didn't the UN just recently call for the immediate release of Leopoldo Lopez in Venezuela? Maybe she should have a chat with the Madman.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    “perhaps some [other country] which is no longer as colossal as it used to be in the 19th century and ceased to be so altogether in the 20th, but continues to have this little colonialistic thing inside realises, please, and sits down to talk with us...”

    Insult people then ask them for something? Is that an approach that works in Argentina? “You're a bastard arsehole. Having said that, can you give me some money please?”

    Struggling to see it myself.

    ”greatest wage equality in the region”

    Everyone being equally fucked by gov policies is a good thing? Lol.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    “the entire world is calling for”-what a stupid person you are Cristina.
    Not to say also a liar.
    ChrisR is right on the money with his TMBOA.
    So sorry for you, Cristina, you live in a fantasy-world.
    But of course, Argentina IS a fantasy world.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner ,

    lets end this right now,
    if you and all your mates , friends , brainwashed people , think you have a case.
    TAKE IT TO THE ICJ,

    if you truly believe in human rights , the right to self determination , and the rules and regulations that Argentina signed up to with the UN

    then you will leave the islanders alone, and accept that they [ not you ] have a right to freely choose who governs them, who they choose to be ,

    you tell the world that you follow this principles, yet then you insult , abuse , intimidate , and try to blockade the islands,

    so you are either a hypocrite or a two faced lair ,
    you have no rights or claim to the islands whatsoever,

    you just use this as an excuse for the collapse of your own nation,
    whilst brainwashing your own people into British / islander hatred,

    if the west had any balls you would be kicked out of the UN for blatantly abusing its own rules to your selfish territorial ambitions , and you know it,

    so CFK either follow the bloody rules and go to the ICJ
    or Soddy Offy , grow up and stop acting like a total power hungry diva,

    just my opinion.
    British Falklands full stop, until they freely say other wise..

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    I'll happily discuss the Falklands with Cristina:

    I'll start. The Falklands are not up for negotiations over sovereignty.

    Rnd.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    The sad thing is this little “speech” affects the UK not one iota.

    It manages to insult the Americans and lie about the situation in Cuba, but the Americans will ignore her.

    So, who does this speech impact.

    It was aimed at the domestic audience. Who CFK must have utter, utter contempt for.

    Does she imagine they will believe that “the Americans have admitted Castro was right”?

    Does she imagine that they will believe Britain will hand sovereignty of the islands to Argentina against the will of the islanders?

    The answer is yes, she imagines that the Argentine populous will believe what they want to hear, and happy clap her all the way.

    Are the Argentines that stupid? Looks like it....but let's hope not.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    This woman is delusional; does she actually believe the bullshit that she is spouting? But if she wants to emulate the US action on Cuba she should lift HER trade and communication embargos on the Falklands, stop persecuting and threatening the Islander's security and just leave them alone!

    They are so imbued with the cult of victimhood that she can't see that, in the case of the Falklands, it is Argentina that is the aggressor.

    There is no point in her calling for talks/discussions with the UK over sovereignty when Argentina has made it quite clear to all that there is nothing to decide, that the Islands belong to them. This is just another dishonest attempt to cloud the issue, appear reasonable to the world, while they achieve their colonial ambitions through guile bully and bluster. Well forget it lady, you aren’t smart enough to play those games.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Silly woman.
    Falkland Islands are sovereign British territory.
    Nothing to discuss.
    Thank you.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    She goes next year, and her attitude will go with her,

    still,
    what are her brainwashed bloggers going to do...lol

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CKurze30k

    “If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right...”

    All the US is doing is opening diplomatic ties. No mention of them admitting Castro was right or anything of the sort.

    “...how come they [the British] will not sit down and talk about something the entire world is calling for?”

    Britain is abiding by UN rules. The resolution that you love so much requires that the interests of the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands are taken into account.

    We take those interests into account by asking them, you do not. We have respected their best interests by agreeing to their choices in a free and fair referendum which resulted in an overwhelming majority choosing to continue the current relationship with the UK.

    It is undisputable that Argentina has lied constantly to push a fake claim to the Falklands, and an even more false claim to South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands.

    If your statement of the US “admitting Castro was right” were true, the appropriate analogy would be Argentina removing their fake claim from their constitution and apologising to the United Nations for wasting their time for so long with a claim founded on lies.

    If you had a legitimate claim, you would have taken it to the ICJ decades ago. The fact that you haven't means that you know you will fail, because your claim is a lie.

    The only way to begin any kind of dialogue on the British Falklands and the legitimate inhabitants thereof, is if you agree to stop lying.

    I doubt you have the honour or honesty to do so.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Devonian

    But there's a huge difference. The USA doesn't lay claim to Cuba -the 2 countries just haven't had diplomatic relations for the last 54 years. Argentina's starting “negotiating” position is that the Falkland Islands belong to it and that is enshrined in their constitution. It's difficult to negotiate with someone when the other side has already told you what the outcome must be.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    What about an agreement you stop being a corrupt, liar and incompetent president, Mrs. Kirchner?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Tbf the yanks had nukes sitting in turkey strangley that wasnt a crisis only when the russians did the same.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Lol, - There was a brothel near where I was based in West Germany, that we christened the 'Pink House', - I'll bet it has done far more for humanity than the one in BA.
    Maybe CFK should turn the one in BA in to a knocking shop, - Probably the only help to the economy she'd achieve.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    @29 The Knocking Shop of Horrors?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Demantoid Garnet

    It's really sad (but predictable) how Kirchner “spins” world events for her own political purposes... and tries to keep the people's attention away from much more pressing domestic problems. On a positive note however, I hope a truly improved “relationship” between Cuba and the US develops. This is a window of opportunity, and has nothing to do with “yanks admitting that Castro was right”. Far from it. With no more financial support from the former USSR, and little help from Venezuela (other than some oil), Cuba could really benefit from improved relations. Also, contrary to what you may read in the US media, most Americans (other than the older Cubans who came to the US in the 1960s / 70s) don't really care one way or the other about Cuba. I lived in Miami for a number of years, and still have many friends there. Their LOCAL media is all spun up about the change, but if you get out of Miami, it hardly gets a mention in the news. The BIGGER issue in the media is regarding Obama's authority to do this vs the authority of the US Congress. It's a political argument about the limits of executive power, and the fact that Cuba is involved is just happenstance.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Muppet

    I have to say I am jealous; they have some amazing drugs in Argentina; apparently ...

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @29
    Not in the REEPERBAHN was it?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    It seems to me that more notice is taken of this sick women in these columns than is taken in the “real” world.
    I agree with all the comments above BUT I wish La Kretina's stupidity could be seen in Argentina for what it is - mucha m----a!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    This stupid women would think a full eclipse of the sun was a sign from the heavens about the Falklands.

    How do Rg stand such a halfwit running the country?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Poor woman (or probably neither of those). Let's take the first two paragraphs. “Yesterday was the day of the peoples who do not give up,” Fine. Has it occurred to her that the Falkland Islanders and the British don't give up either?

    “You can't live in the western, civilised world and not abide by the resolutions of the United Nations,” Not a wise comment. Didn't argieland fail to abide by UN Security Council resolution 502? Has she decided that, after all, argieland is in “the west”? Obviously she doesn't read this board. Otherwise, by now, she would realise that General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING. We've said it often enough.

    “perhaps some [other country] which is no longer as colossal as it used to be in the 19th century and ceased to be so altogether in the 20th, but continues to have this little colonialistic thing inside realises, please, and sits down to talk with us...” Big enough to travel 8,000 miles and kick your ass, madam. And it's popular to refer to the Falklands War as taking 74 days. It didn't. First British landings took place on 21 April, 1982. It was all over on 12 June, 1982. That's 53 days. Though I suppose we could add 8 days until the British got around to accepting the surrender of the Southern Thule garrison on the South Sandwich Islands.

    “yesterday, the 17th of December, be declared the 'Day of the Dignity of The Peoples Who Don't Give Up'“. She can call it whatever she likes. I think that, for this year, I'll call it ”Wednesday”.

    Just how many comments, just on this article, does it take? The sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are NOT negotiable. For several reasons.
    1. The Islanders don't want it;
    2. The Islands are an essential part of the BAS, where British territory is under military occupation by foreigners;
    3. The Islands are an essential staging point for an invasion of argieland; and
    4. We don't want to, because we don't like you.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stoker

    We will talk when Argentina recognises and respects the Falklanders' right, under the UN Charter, to self-determination.

    The UN have designated the Falkland Islands a non-self-governing territory (NSGT)
    http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

    The UN has also determined that all NSGTs have the right to self-determination
    http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

    This has been re-affirmed by the United Nations International Court of Justice (UNICJ)
    http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml
    http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

    The UNICJ General Report 1971 (page 31) states the following:-

    ”the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frisbydyke

    What a wonderful idea from the Botox Disaster of Buenos Aires to declare “a day for the peoples who do not give up”. This is the perfect way for Old Rubber Lips to pay tribute to the brave and unbeatable Falkland Islanders, a people who never give up and never give in to the cowardly bullying of the corrupt, criminal Kirchner regime. Bless you, Cretina. Now get back to your master plan to turn Argentina into the Zimbabwe of Latin America.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    British Richard Gott

    “People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid”

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #39
    Richard Willoughby Gott is a British journalist and historian. A former Latin America correspondent and features editor for the British newspaper The Guardian, he is known for his radical politics and ......... a connection to Che Guevara. !!!!! Enough said.
    You choose to believe one journalist who is stating HIS opinion. THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    ““If the yanks took 53 years to admit that [Former Cuban revolutionary leader] Fidel Castro was right, . . . .”

    Time to freshen up a few thousand lawsuits against the Casto regime for confiscation of U.S. assets. If relations are normalized with America - it will only be after the restoration of American assets. Hell - there are as many Dems in Congress that are mad at Obamie over this as there are republicans. Walk the streets of Miami and you'll find out just exactly how popular an idea this is. The Cubanos want the Castros' heads.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    If any analogy exists between the two cases is that Argentina is more like the US regarding Cuba in its behaviour of blocking itself from trade with the islands. Which in both cases Argentina and the US where perfectly able legally to do so.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    @36
    You forgot the most important reason: The Falkland Islands is a prosperous, well managed society. Argentina on the other hand is a rotting cesspool of crime, poverty, and corruption.

    I hope the Islanders never give up...!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    # 36, I am afraid you are technically wrong conqueror. You are mistaking the war with the liberation campaign. The liberation campaign was a series of battles that started on the date you quoted.

    The Falklands War or Falklands Conflict as it used to be called after all no one actually declared war started earlier when Argentina landed 8,000 troops including heavy armour to defeat the Islanders 60 defenders, mostly marines, and to occupy the islands and suppress the islands civilian population.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    39 Marcos Alejandro
    Who's academic standing was absolutely impeached for perceived bias, and was probably viewed by many in the UK as a de-facto traitor.
    'Gott resigned as literary editor of the Guardian in 1994 after it was alleged in The Spectator that he had been an “agent of influence” for the KGB, claims which he rejected, arguing that “Like many other journalists, diplomats and politicians, I lunched with Russians during the cold war”. He asserted that his resignation was “a debt of honour to my paper, not an admission of guilt”, because his failure to inform his editor of three trips abroad to meet with KGB officials at their expense had caused embarrassment to the paper during its investigation of Jonathan Aitken.[4]
    The source of the allegation that he was an agent, KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky. In his resignation letter Gott admitted “I took red gold, even if it was only in the form of expenses for myself and my partner. That, in the circumstances, was culpable stupidity, though at the time it seemed more like an enjoyable joke”.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Gott
    “It involved a Soviet defector named Oleg Gordievsky, the KGB’s resident chief in London during the mid-eighties, who, upon turning on his former nation, named their Western agents, among which were some well-known British politicians and journalists.
    Gordievsky’s list of UK agents of influence, which he had handed over to Western spy chiefs upon defecting, included Guardian literary editor, Richard Gott. Upon news of Gott’s involvement with the KGB, he resigned, in a letter then Guardian editor, Peter Preston, accepted “with a heavy heart”.
    According to Gordievsky, Gott was “an absolute classic case of an agent. He came to meetings at regular intervals. Sometimes it was once a month, sometimes every two months.” His Soviet handlers drew money to pay him.“The KGB was stingy, so the payments would not have been very much. The normal fee was between $450 and $600 every month or so.””
    http:/

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @39 Richard Gott knows very little about Latin America - he does know a lot about Che Guevara and Cuba. Anyway, he is a former journalist for the Guardian and that should explain everything!

    He is certainly NOT qualified to opine about the Falkland Islands.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    #19: She is a two-faced liar. Every time she or one of her talking heads open their mouths they lie to the people. They are still lying about inflation.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano 1

    One can only smile at the insane babblings of this air headed bitch....Cuba/American situation has NOTHING in common with the Argentinian/Falklands .....It really is a sad situation where as the lunatics in BA just dont get it.....The Falkland Islanders want NOTHING to do with a corrupt,repressive fascist Argentinian Government...Not now...Not EVER...End of story...!!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #41 that anger is understand but the USA is not a populist government. However I do agree with you that the American assets that were nationalized with be an issue. If this issue can be resolved there is no logical reason we, the USA chould not have relations considering out other fuck partners....Saudi and China are the biggest repressors that come to mind.
    As for the Cubans in Miami....fuck them. They are only here by an ludicrous policy, wet feet, dry feet. No one else can get into this country legally so easy.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    The CFK policy is to knock on as many doors and windows she can to keep the pot boiling.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    I don't follow her logic. She mocks our reliquishing of imperial power but accuses us of being imperialist. Either we are post-imperial or we aren't. We aren't trying to steal anyone's territory, unlike Argentina or Russia and we gave Scotland the right to secede if it so wanted. All our BOTs are on the decolonisation list so are free to stay or go as they please. Is that what passes for imperialist these days?

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Germán Daniele, president of the Cordoba College of Pharmacists, confirmed that since August there have been supply shortages of supply of tampons. To add insult to injury, these supply shortages have also nixed the variety of sizes we picky women love so much, and the only tampons available are the biggest ones.

    http://bubblear.com/bloody-hell-argentinas-import-restrictions-cause-tampon-shortage/

    Stupid Marxists.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Marcos Alejandro

    Why do Argentines make a fuss about the islands they call Malvinas?

    The answer is simple.

    The Peronist governments have invented an injustice and a fictional enemy. They have made it a “nationalist issue” where anyone who questions it is “unpatriotic”. They feed lies and invented history to school children. It is a lie by which to unite the population.

    In the UK we call it “Emperors New Clothes”. It is a way for governments to control stupid people.

    Unfortunately, as you are living proof, there are plenty of stupid people in Argentina, queuing up to be controlled.

    You have been on these boards for a long time Marcos. You know the truth but chose to ignore it. It makes you a fool.

    1) if the Spanish garrison on the islands (and indeed the list of Governors which you have posted) where a precursor to Argentina, how come not a single solitary one of these Spaniards became Argentine?

    Where else on earth would there be a “successor state” where not a single one of the precursor states civilians became a civilian of the successor?

    2) There was no usurption in 1833. The only Argentines evicted were the crew of the Sarandi who had arrived six weeks earlier. They had already murdered their Captain and raped his wife....hardly an “Argentine population” or “Argentine authorities”

    3) the continental shelf argument...funniest of all. Cuba is on the USA continental shelf. The UK is on Europes. So what...it is 300miles from Patagonia and 1000 miles from any part of Argentina that existed in 1833.

    You know all this..yet still you (and your government spew lies). The Emperor is naked...only the stupid and blind cannot see it.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, and occupied,

    yet amazingly, when asked to prove it, like all argy know-alls,
    they suddenly get amnesia and disappear..lol

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    HAs anyone else read this article from the “other” mad cunt from Argentina?

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177633/uk-celebrates-war

    She has the hypocritic audacity of claiming the UK is “celebrating” war for a memorial status of one of Britain's greatest PM, yet.....they themselves actually minted a coin commemorating that actual invasion on the coin.....WTF do you call that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    55'
    to be truthful with you,
    the British government should really tell Alicia Castro to pack her bags and go home,

    it just seems to me, that these crettings seem to think they can say, what they want , when they want , and to whom they want, regardless if it insults them or complete lies,

    perhaps the time is fast approaching the stiff upper lip to , give a bit, rather than take it...lol

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I agree and I am an American. I feel she over stayed her welcome and you Brits are way too gracious. She's always flapping her brown hole way too much.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @39. Simple response. The Islands are British territory. See “uti possidetis”. Or just wait to watch us kill you. What, no smart answers? 1,200 combat-ready troops, combat aircraft, warships, maybe submarines. Reinforcement in hours. More troops, more aircraft, more death.

    Think hard. And argieland still has nothing.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @56
    The English Stiff Upper Lip has and will work wonders now and into the future. The way to deal with loudmouths like TMBOA and that twat CASTRO is to completely ignore them , there is nothing they hate more than not being listened to.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    If Any present or future leader in Argentina thinks that the people of the Falkland Islands will ever accept their demands they are very much mistaken.
    Britain has pledged to support the wishes of the Islanders and through a referendum conducted under the eyes of foreign nationals we gave the strongest message ever by 99.98% of the people wishing to remain British.

    Obviously Kirchner has no respect for people at all because she believe we do not exist that we are squatters and in all of this she refuses to accept that her Country was created by removing an indigenous people.
    That is exactly what she and her cronies still want to do to us so why would we ever start to warm towards her when we know what our outcome would be.

    The Falkland are British and will still be British forever because the people have told the world many times of their desires.
    Still Christina is but a dictator who likes to spit her dummy out when she cant get her own way.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Obamie's timing is an effort to keep Cuba from failing as VZ is no longer able to provide support. Obame is a radical socialist/communist and as a lame duck has no reason to conceal it any longer. Full embrace of China, chosing to obilerate Mexican border control, Cuba - this is the tip of the iceberg.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    61. Yep.

    Dec 20th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frisbydyke

    39 and 40: Richard Gott is a discredited British journalist who was accused of being a Russian agent and who resigned from The Guardian after admitting receiving money from the KGB. He admitted his “stupidity” in his dealings with the Soviet Union and the same word can be used to describe his views on the Falklands. He is an utter irrelevance in any discussion of South America.

    Dec 20th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @56. Why go to all that trouble? London is a dangerous place. One bullet.

    Dec 20th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Thank you chaps,
    I think we have made our feelings pretty well known to they argy losers,

    but they wont listen, they wont learn, and they wont win either.

    lol

    Dec 20th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @65
    If the Argies asked us nicely I am sure that with our superior knowledge and expertise we could in about 1000 yrs turn Argentina around. I am sure that would be long enough to de- indoctrinate them.

    Dec 21st, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @39
    ”Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid”

    Has Gott explained 'why' it is valid?

    Because I have never seen any historical evidence that categorically affirms that Argentina's claim is unmistakably valid.

    If Richard Gott says it is valid-so what?

    What evidence has he provided to prove it, after all he's a historian?

    Dec 21st, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    66'
    yep, we are always willing to help, those who want it,

    rather than those who just use it to play the victim..

    Dec 21st, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Gott is a lying traitor & soviet agent.
    Hard to believe anything that he says.
    There should only be one fate for such a creature.
    Force him to live in Argentina!

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @69
    “Force him to live in Argentina!”

    Fantastic idea, Isolde, and I'm sure George Galloway would be glad to join him.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    I think Cristina , Maduro and Morales are probably both worried and disappointed in Raul .
    Let's face it , the bad boy of the neighbourhood is now going to sign a good behaviour accord and bend over for Uncle Sam .
    That means turning one's back on one's former disreputable friends .
    Oh dear , what a shame , it seems the Bolivarian revolution has hit the buffers .

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    There is only “Bolivarian Brotherhood” as long as they have something to gain - otherwise, it's “every man for himself” and “I'll sell you out in a second..”!

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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