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Chavez died December 2012 and not March 2013, says former bodyguard

Friday, January 30th 2015 - 08:25 UTC
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A former bodyguard of Venezuela’s Socialist Party heavyweight Diosdado Cabello Leamsy Salazar, who fled the country earlier this week and was reportedly collaborating with US authorities investigating allegations of Venezuelan officials' involvement in drugs, said late president Hugo Chavez did not die on 5 March 2013 but on 30 December 2012. Read full article

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  • Troy Tempest

    No surprises!!

    Sorry STEVIE!

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Didn't we all say this at the time? I wasn't being entirely serious in speculating but how can one tell when lies are so easy from the mouths of the Bolivarians.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Venezuela = Argentina= two peas, same pod.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    They are so afraid of the truth. And this was very evident at the time. There was no doubt he had been dead for some time when his death was finally announced.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    If I remember correctly it was so they did not have to go for a general re election and was automatically handed to Maduro.
    What levels these scumbags sink to, just to stay in power.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    We can't have ordinary people speaking the truth.

    I have no doubt that, before any 'official' pronouncements, he will be given a .22 handgun, a death capsule, a ricin needle or a polonium dose.

    I joke ... it will probably be a common-or-garden highway accident.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    And as always, the TRUTH will out.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    These rumours have been circulating on the web for a long time now. A vnzln blogger that I follow first raised this back in 2013 but there has never been any proof.
    Nor is this, but is does add a lot of credence to the story.
    What is fact, is that Diosdado Cabello is the most powerful man in Vnzla, and in my opinion the dirtiest and most evil man in the country.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Actually im surprised that they have not put Chavez in a glass case and preserved for all to see.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    IF OAS was a real and objective organization they would initiate an investigation. But being what they are, as corrupt as the rest of them ......nothing.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @ 9 Briton
    ”THE President of Venezuela (Maduro) has revealed a peculiar sleeping habit: he frequently beds down in the mausoleum of his late predecessor, Hugo Chávez.“

    The tomb is housed in the ornate central atrium of the military barracks and is guarded around the clock by soldiers with red and yellow hussars uniforms and swords, explains The Times.“ http://www.theweek.co.uk/americas/54584/venezuelan-president-sleeps-hugo-ch-vezs-mausoleum#ixzz3QJDPSMAB
    ”A year after his death, outside the hilltop mausoleum that is the final resting place for late Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez, the “eternal commander” was still putting on a show.

    From giant speakers set up at the mausoleum entrance, visitors could hear Chávez riffing on love and crooning romantic ballads, karaoke-style, his voice carrying up the steep hillside into the modest cement-block homes above. ”
    http://www.theweek.co.uk/americas/54584/venezuelan-president-sleeps-hugo-ch-vezs-mausoleum#ixzz3QJDPSMAB

    photo here
    http://www.theweek.co.uk/americas/54584/venezuelan-president-sleeps-hugo-ch-vezs-mausoleum#ixzz3QJDPSMAB

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Why is it that commies always put they “beloved” dead leaders on display like a deer on the wall of a trophy hunter? China, Russia, Vietnam.

    Ilsen maybe he sleeps there because Chubby Chavos daughter has yet to vacate the presidential plaza......lol

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 That and it is probably the only place he feels safe.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Didn't anybody ask what the smell was?

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Didn't Lynard Skynard has a song......“That Smell” lol

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    When was Chavez last seen in public?

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    #12 True!
    #13 Agreed!
    #16 quite a while before he went to Cuba for 'treatment', although I do believe there are some photos of him in Cuba.

    During the disputed time-frame Chavez was not seen in public although the Gov. continued to release photos of him.

    His final return to Vnzla was not publicised in the usual manner.

    ”CARACAS, Venezuela — In a surprise predawn homecoming, President Hugo Chávez returned to Venezuela (...) Unlike Mr. Chávez’s other returns from treatments in Cuba, this was hardly a triumphant arrival. There were no television images or photographs of him descending from the presidential plane in a track suit and greeting officials on the tarmac, as there were in the past, raising questions about whether the government was seeking to keep a severely weakened president out of public view... , with Mr. Chávez out of sight and the government insisting that he continued to run the country from a hospital bed in Cuba while the political opposition demanded proof that he was capable of doing so.
    ... Even some Chávez supporters have voiced skepticism. When officials said a major currency devaluation announced this month [Feb. 2013] had been approved by Mr. Chávez directly, they showed a signed document to prove it.
    “If he was sick, how did he sign it? That’s what doesn’t convince me,” said José Alberto Fernández, an ardent Chávez supporter who sold plantains on a street corner a few blocks from the military hospital. He said he did not have faith in Mr. Maduro or the other officials running the government...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/americas/chavez-returns-to-venezuela-after-cancer-surgery-in-cuba.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    All very suspicious.
    If it comes out that Maduro, Cabello and their cronies were falsifying documents and passing laws with Chavez already dead it could cause a massive split, even disintregration of the PSUV. The ruling coalition is already fractured and infighting is rife.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Two points:

    1. Both Maduro and Cabello do not deny the comment about Chavez, where and when he died. They focus on the Sun drug cartel, and demand proof.

    2. Cuba and the Cuban advisers to Maduro were involved, if not orchestrating the entire affair, to ensure the control of Venezuela by Maduro.

    The photocopiers in the Venezuelan government Forgery Department were very busy those 2 months.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Aaaah remember Stevie running around like a 4 year old saying “Todos somos Chavez”?

    Those were the days.

    Here's a quick trip down memory lane to see how stupid that guy was.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/07/chavez-last-words-please-don-t-let-me-die-according-to-the-presidential-guard-chief

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Thx Skip!!

    “STEVIE” was/is truly as brain-dead as his inspiration, Chavez !!

    What horse's patoot !!

    Which sock troll do you think he is posing as, in his current incarnation?

    Or did he just run away?!

    Pretty telling that none but the stupidest trolls defend the Chavez myth or the Maduro charade.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @6. He's not in Venezuela now. But perhaps MADurive should consider the “.22 handgun, a death capsule, a ricin needle or a polonium dose.”
    @19. Who cares? The scum is dead. Long overdue. Even in 2012. I have a list of places the world doesn't need. Why doesn't the U.S. DO something?

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    11 ilsen @
    thanks for that.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    11 ilsen -

    There is a term for that condition.

    Necrophilia

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    More shite in the fan for VZ....but what really matters, is that the SOB is dead.

    Jan 30th, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Everything is fine in Venezuela as you can see for yourselves.

    Look at a Jumbo supermarket: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/01/30/world/20150130-slide-W2QZ/20150130-slide-W2QZ-jumbo.jpg

    They have shelves, don't they?

    Look at the queue outside the supermarket: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/01/30/world/20150130-slide-W2QZ/20150130-slide-W2QZ-jumbo.jpg

    They wouldn't stand in queues like this for 5 or 6 hours if there wasn't a hope to buy something, would they?

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @25
    Photography is now banned in many supermarkets, by law, or at least by the National Guard.
    Overnight queues have been forbidden.
    ...
    No publicity, no scarcity. Right?
    No queues, no scarcity. Right?
    ....
    It is all so very wrong.
    I am so sad for Vnzla.

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    26. Not me, I am glad it is going bad and getting worse. I hope there's civil war. It's needed to rid that country of the poor stupid people who believe you can have wealth without working.
    The fall of a Marxist gov't is glorious.
    I can't wait for Argentina and Brazil to follow.

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Is it just me or does all the postings on MP seem like mop up operations without the trolls? The are absolutely NOWHERE to be seen.

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Probably because they have seen the light finally or Christina has stopped paying them their free choripans.

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    @28 Captain Poppy who writes: “... mop up operations without the trolls?”

    The troll? he is on vacation as are all government employed Argentines during the months January and February, and so “all the voices” go silent.

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    vestige think madnut.
    all on holiday...lol

    Jan 31st, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Livingthedream

    One less Communist! Who Cares?

    Feb 01st, 2015 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They still typically troll despite January holiday. I'm more inclined to lean on the side that they are in fact starting to see that they are fighting a losing battle. Or, they are still without electricity. When I get my in-laws here to the states, I too will drop MP like a plague.

    Feb 01st, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    33

    Less anguish - it will be good if they can leave all that corruption and dysfunction behind them.

    The plus side to sites like MP, Trolls and all, is that people around the world can see some of the propaganda for what it is, and more importantly,

    events no longer go totally unnoticed by the public.

    The Inyernet has served to “turn over a few stones” and we see the ugly creatures underneath, scuttling away to hide.

    Feb 01st, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/11385294/Venezuelas-socialist-paradise-turns-into-a-nightmare-medical-shortages-claim-lives-as-oil-price-collapses.html

    The whole truth and nothing but the truth!

    Feb 03rd, 2015 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Companies are taking write offs and some planning moves out of Venezuela. Now that they are officially a narco state, no legitimate business wants anything to do with that cesspool of criminal politics.

    Feb 03rd, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    YES! @ 35 gordo1
    There is a short, but powerful, must read, report on the current state of affairs in Vnzla.
    I was there over Christmas/New Year and it directly reflects my own personal experiences.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/11385294/Venezuelas-socialist-paradise-turns-into-a-nightmare-medical-shortages-claim-lives-as-oil-price-collapses.html

    Feb 04th, 2015 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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