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Tory majority government, but looking to Scottish independentists' landslide
Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservatives won a stunning victory in Britain's election on Friday, which cut short the careers of his top three rivals and put the country's European Union future in doubt. Read full article
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May 09th, 2015 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0During the Scottish independence referendum the 'Yes' vote was 1,617,989. During the General Election the SNP garnered a total of 1,454,436 votes.
This is a net drop of 163,553
Meaning that the SNP got 35.5% of Scots who voted to vote for them
The SNP policy was to claim that it would be able to 'dictate' policy in Westminster because it would hold the balance of power. That dream is as far from fruition as 'Independence'.
For all the seats it gained it is as powerless at Westminster as it would have been with only 5 MPs
So who will write the Budget now Mr Salmond??? - not you that's for certain
One thing I personally find far more interesting is that SF LOST Fermanagh and South Tyrone
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May 09th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not being funny....but...
Actually I'm lying...I find your analogy hysterical...
Do I always have to be the one to highlight the obvious flaws in Anti Scottish arguments....?
Not sure if you noticed, but one was a referendum on Independence and the other was a General Election of MP's to Westminster....
What else do you want to compare...?
The price of eggs to the price of bread...after all they are both groceries....
You are not Irish by any chance...?....only.....Doh!!!
I'm not making comparisons just stating facts
May 09th, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for your nasty little racist slur - not Argentine by any chance..?....only...Doh!!
#1 darragh
May 09th, 2015 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for that interesting information, in particularly the result in South Tyrone.
I have another. The despicable and repugnant regime must have been expecting, if not hoping for a different weaker complexion of Government in Westminster.
They now have an even harder one. The Castro ninny in London will however embarrass herself as usual at every turn, that is her lot in life. She is here to amuse us. She just doesn't know that she is the perpetual joke.
You are not funny... What me?
May 09th, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pass the Stornaway black pudding - aaaah that fits nicely och aye!
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May 09th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What slur....?
....have you been making assumptions based on a deep seated inferiority complex...?
..where did that come from....what did you assume..?....;-))))
...Doh!!
@2. It's not so much anti-scottish as anti-thicko. Apparently 45% of the scotch think that, possibly, paying 0.2% more tax justifies their grasping, greedy hands. But the scotch get paid 19% more in grants and subsidies than the English. Is there something wrong with the scotch education system? Pay in 0.2% more, take out 19% more. Doesn't that put the scotch 18.8% UP? Bring to a 'union' a certain amount of land, a certain amount of debts and nothing else. Get a loan straightaway that you never pay back. Insist on leaving with the same amount of land and loads of assets. Why do the scotch have a sporran instead of pockets? You can't get as much of anything in a sporran as you can in pockets.
May 09th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How are the scotch like argies? Always 'victims'. And stupid. It doesn't take much to demonstrate that argieland has no claim to the Falkland Islands. But the uneducated, stupid, 'victimised' argies think they have.
It doesn't take much to demonstrate that the scotch are grasping, greedy scroungers sucking off England. But the uneducated, stupid, 'victimised' scotch demand 'rights' they don't have.
Why don't we try for a resolution? A war. A nice straightforward 10 Englishmen to every one of the scotch. Then England can have another 30,000 square miles! 414 square miles left for the 'natives'.
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May 09th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CEBR produces an annual calculation that shows public spending in the UK by region as a share of regional gross domestic product (GDP). The most recent calculation, based on data released last May, showed how different the dependence on public spending is between the different parts of the country.
The biggest beneficiaries are Northern Ireland, Wales and the North East, which receive more than a fifth of their income as subsidies from the taxpayer.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/13/article-2100345-11B789BE000005DC-890_468x383.jpg
Oh No....you got it wrong...again...;-)))
Look! Don't listen to me.
May 09th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can read… the Daily Mail, err… Daily Fascist.
What would a poor scrounger like me read down the Combined Services?
Well?
Darragh Fermanagh election
May 09th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something a bit strange here. Unionist vote up 46% yet Sinn Fein vote exactly the same as at the last election so where did those extra 10,000 UUP votes come from?
Having had some experience of polotics on your side of the sheugh, perhaps the old Ulster slogan of “vote early, vote often” still applies?
@ 1 darragh & 10 redp0ll
May 09th, 2015 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Previously the Unionist vote was split between two different Unionist candidates the UUP and the DUP.
This was one of four constituencies where the two parties did a deal to put forward only one candidate, in this case a UUP candidate.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/11574697/Letters-Scotland-is-dying-without-even-the-tears-of-its-own-people-amid-a-new-culture-of-intolerance.html
May 09th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting opinion.
European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker
May 09th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This man, is more dangerous than all others at this time to our country,
He has publicly stated that the EU will pay any price, any cost, or any burdens to stop Greece from exiting the EU monetary union or the EU itself,
Now if this man will go to any lengths to keep Greece from slipping from EU control,
Think of what he will do to keep BRITIAN from leaving, from plain demands to skull duggery, blackmail to bribes, including the break-up of the UK,
This man wants, and will one day get, [if allowed] a United states of Europe,
Woo all those who want the uk to break up, for the golden platinum chance to join this great institution, this great future union rich, powerful , people loving paradise,
You may well end up getting what you deserve, recalled future loans like Greece, ties into the nightmare satiation of the Euro, incompetence , corruption , and incompetence,
The famous voice at the top table, with the other 28 top tables,
A government that you cannot or will not elect, and all you complaint to your invisible government who in turn just says, [ nothing to do with us mate,, put it in the EU suggestion box,
I could well be wrong, but one thinks that some will get more than they bargained for,
Once- president Jean-Claude Juncker gets hold of you, PRAY, you are going to need it,
Just my opinion.
1, 10 & 11
May 09th, 2015 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In F&ST Sinn Fein went from 45.5% vote share in 2010 (when they won by just 4 votes) to 45.4% this time. The agreed Unionist candidate won with 46.4% (530 vote majority) against the 45.5% vote share the agreed pro-Union independent candidate got last time. So no extra 10,000 votes (?), just a fractional difference in turnout that cut the Republican's way last time but the Unionist's way this time. What is more significant is that the combined Sinn Fein / Sdlp vote shares do appear to have stalled over the last few elections. Anyone who thought that the increase poprtion of Catholics. In Britain the leaders who did badly all resigned - I'm guessing Gerry Adams won't be considering his position anyime soon!!
Re; Fermanagh south tyrone.
May 09th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0last time held by unionists was 1997. unionists are celebrating a phenomenon which will most probably revert to normal in next election.
@ Vestige
May 09th, 2015 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps. But much more sigificantly the combined SF/SDLP Westminster vote across NI in 2001 was (in 1000s) 346, which dropped to 300 in 2005, which dropped to 283 in 2010, which dropped to 276 this year. While the pro-Union vote has also fallen over the same period (though it went up 20,000 this time vs 2010, as did the Alliance vote) the real significance of this is that NI people, both Nationalist and Unionist, are becoming increasingly content with the status quo. This was always the risk for Adams in making peace with his Unionist neighbours, but his nasty little sectarian war was getting him nowhere anyway so he may as well fail peacefully rather than fail militarily.
@8. You didn't mention any of the data relevant to scotland. Why is that?
May 10th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14, 16. Isn't it time that the people of Northern Ireland refused to let the whitewashed political wing of a terrorist organisation take part in Northern Ireland politics or government?
If there are people in Northern Ireland who want republican rule, why don't they cross the border? Isn't it just greed? Dictatorial? This is the way that 'we' think, so everybody else must agree?
@14 Redrow
May 10th, 2015 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There have been significant “purges” of the electoral register, in some wards as many as one in four voters did not exist.
@13 Briton
May 10th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see the in/out referendum debate begins, soapboxes at dawn it is then.
@13
May 10th, 2015 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you ENGLISH (using this term appropriately here), seem to be fond of the concept “to lose the war in order to win a battle”.
So you will now get your EU secession, which will within the hour of its proclamation lead to Scotland declaring independence. And I don't think Wales will be too happy of with being dragged out of the EU
So you got out of the EU, but you lose the UK.
You will have to change your name, since you won't even be able claim the whole of“Britain” as your demaine any longer.
16. Better to be a unionist in 1997 or today ?
May 10th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better to be a unionist in 1997 or any point thereafter ?
Slow drift.
GB taxpayers should look at identity polls and voting patterns and wonder what exactly they're getting in the western half of NI for their 10 billion pound annual subvention.
From what I can see all they're getting is taken to the bank.
@Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL (#)
May 10th, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby you are an avowed isolationist, in extremist.
What could you possibly know about “trade blocks” and “political unions” or even “geo-political alliances?”
Matters way beyond your parochial, small town mind-set.
Simply too big and too complicated for your very limited experience and level of understanding.
Sorry and all that, but stick to what you know, your tiny part of Argentina and that’s all!
@20 alias paulcedron
May 10th, 2015 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know nothing!
EU chief wants Britain to STAY in Union – as he insists there's 'no better life'
May 10th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE president of the EU last night urged David Cameron to stay in the Union as he insisted there is “no better life” for any country.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/576047/EU-European-Union-Donald-Tusk-David-Cameron-referendum-Ukip
There is no better life outside the European Union, for any country
Says Donald Tusk,
Does that include the rest of the world, very ambitious this EU, is it not.
At the same time, Cameron must create the impression that he is imposing a British vision on the EU, a think tank has warned.
[[impression]] says it all really, a con job.
20 Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL
Condemn as you wish, but the British are fed up with Europe, and we will withdraw, and I personally think, that by 2017 the scots welsh and northern Irish will want to withdraw from this corrupt gravy train.
just because SNP want to stay does not mean all the rest want to stay,
Europe is corrupt, it has not signed of for decades ,
it interferes at every stage, and is pro controlling, and ant defence,
the EU nation would not piss on us if we were on fire,
we need to get out or go down the plug hole,
but=Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL if you support the EU so much, feel free to join, perhaps most of you argies would like to join,
feel free by all means, but leave us the brits out of it.
and that's just my opinion.
@18
May 10th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There have been significant “purges” of the electoral register, in some wards as many as one in four voters did not exist.”
I'm not sure of your point. Since it was Sinn Fein's vote that went down are you suggesting it was their vote that was corruptly inflated?
@21
Poor Vestige. The annual LucidTalk opinion poll shows that the proportion of people who want a UI immediately is in single figures. So as the Catholic share of the population rises (though now at a slower rate than previously) the proportion of people who want a UI never seems to go up. What happens in 100 years I have no idea, but nothing will change any time soon.
Oh I think there might be a minor change quite soon.
May 11th, 2015 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0That will be the change of religious majority.
(as per the now Catholic majority in both of NI's only two cities)
Admittedly not of any real relevance to most modern day to day folk.
But important in historical and cultural context for a region originally engineered to be a loyal orange state.
Which, if you'd like to look closer at western and southern aspects of the region (which the GB taxpayer kindly pays billions for annually), it is clearly neither.
What a mess.
Proud to be British......
May 11th, 2015 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny, I never heard any Scot say those words. Ever.
It's like they make a deal out of being Scottish.
We understand them. We always knew “British” meant “English”....
@26
May 11th, 2015 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Belfast City Council has a couple more Nationalist councillors than Unionists such that the non-aligned (but mildly pro-Union) Alliance hold the balance of power, however Belfast is ringed by councils that are overwhelmingly Unionist. If the “loyal orange state” wished to gerrymander a Unionist majority it could simply put Castlereagh back into Belfast Council (as it is every bit as much a part of Belfast as Andersonstown) and job done.
As for the drain on the UK exchequer of NI, the cost per head is almost the same as for Wales and the North East of England and the family of nations is more than just about who can pay and who can't. It is Unionists who are more interested in growing the economy and balancing the books. This is ironic because the very Republicans who want a UI are the ones making NI utterly unaffordable for the Republic of Ireland. So a UI is getting further away not closer.
UI? United Ingland?
May 11th, 2015 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Stevie
May 11th, 2015 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have never heard a Scot say he is proud to be British? You clearly don't mix with the right sort of Scotmrn!
Not my choice, gordo. Those I met, where on vacation while I worked in a hotel reception as a youngster.
May 11th, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I could barely understand what they said, but they were always friendly... Except when they argued with English people.
Loads of Irish too... They arrived late at night in charter flights. Say what you want about that, but they sang all week until they went home Again. Never had any problem with an Irish other than having to handle English people complaining they couldn't sleep, saying they paid for the damn vacation.
As for the English, what I do remember is that thy drank a lot...
Clear and visible distinction, gordo... Regardless of what you say...
@31 Stevie
May 11th, 2015 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You clearly have not even encountered the right sort of Englishmen! And, whilst you are on the subject, what about the Welsh?
The Scota that I have known and worked with have had no problems in integrating with their fellow British citizens and vice versa and certainly in Latin American the British Clubs in those countries where I worked we were all Brits - no nationalism at all.
Dunno about the Welsh, gordo... Met yet too few to form a vague, general opinion about them.
May 11th, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know if you are right about the general feeling on britishness in Latin America, I can only relate to my own experiences.
Fact is, of the times there were fights, and there were quite a few occasions, the root problem was most often nationality related. If not at first, surely after a while...
Did you ever see a Scot playing cricket? I did - in Bogotá and in San Salvador!
May 11th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must never have worked in a 4 or 5 star hotel in Scotland. It must have been in Travelodge or even the YMCA!
I didn't think Scots paid for 5 stars, to be honest....
May 11th, 2015 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my most outrageous of generalisations, that is....
28 - What GB has in NI is a secession of about 50% of the region in all but name.
May 11th, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The concept: British protestant region, beneficial to the union.
The reality in South and west of NI; majority identity: Irish, majority religion: Catholic, majority vote: Sinn Fein, net contribution to union: negative.
2017 will see a separate corporate tax rate for NI, different to GB, in line with the republic.
Just another small change, just like the union flag getting 17 days over Belfast city hall rather than 365.
With the exception of this tyrone blip, NI only ever goes in one direction, unity with the rest of the island.
So according to some , everyone hates the English,
May 11th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0stoking the fames of hatred them,
you will find some people don't like others for many hundreds of different reasons,
but blaming the English for everything is like burning the toast, and blaming the grill.
we will always be united, until the day comes that we are not, and some who stoke the flames of nationalism must take some of the blame , morally or otherwise.
for this violent world will be a more violent and sad place to live,, after we have been destroyed by some to serve ones own ambitions.
just my opinion.
@36 Vestige
May 11th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does “British protestant region” mean?
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May 11th, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ask Clyde if he's proud to be British......
he is.....
...are you recycling comments, you repeated that on the other thread....I must say that's very Environmentally friendly of you...
I might as well do the same and recycle my reply.....
..”.It's like they make a deal out of being Scottish.”
Stevie is that sort of like Uruguayans make a deal out of being Uruguayan....
or Australians make a deal out of being Australian...
or Yanks make a big deal out of....well ....everything.....
Login fail made me post in wrong thread. Pardon my stuttering.
May 11th, 2015 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 - a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant.
May 11th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See also; 'Gerrymander'.
@41 Vestige
May 12th, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where does this “concept” come from?
a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British/Ugandan , American , Argentinian , Iranian , Indian , Russian , Chinese ,
May 12th, 2015 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yep I think I get the ruse,
every country will have their little bit...
42 - Vestige gets this concept from 20th century political and historical fact.
May 13th, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't have Vestige school you in public young Pugol.
@44 Vestige
May 13th, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, speaking as a card carrying Prody Brit, I have never heard of any such thing, not since the time of Oliver Cromwell, when of course there was no such thing as “British”.
So, where is your evidence that this previously un-heard of “20th century political and historical fact” ever existed, must be some if it is a “fact”?
Your second sentence makes no sense whatsoever, do you want to try it again?
WTF is a card carrying Prody Brit...?
May 13th, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What card...?
...and why would one carry one...?
are you sure you are in the right century....
pugol.... im not even going to try right now, its too simple, why you think n.i was formed in 1st place and l8r gerrymandered/border change.
May 14th, 2015 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0go ahead.
Ouch!
May 14th, 2015 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 46 Voice
May 14th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FTP Taig.
@ 47 Vestige
N.I came about because no agreement was possible on a united Ireland, despite long and protracted negotiations with all parties, did you not know that.
The border was drawn up as to include only counties with a protestant majority, the only sensible way to do it.
So, not one shred of evidence to support this previously un-heard of “20th century political and historical fact”.
Which would actually seem to be your somewhat distorted personal view.
Which of course you are entitled to, however you cannot pretend it is fact.
49 -
May 15th, 2015 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“N.I came about because no agreement was possible on a united Ireland, despite long and protracted negotiations with all parties, did you not know that”
- NI came about because Irish born loyalists, mostly protestant, wanted their own piece of land .... lets call it a region ... of an ex-colonial Ireland which had rebelled against Britain, in which to remain, well, British. .... and predominantly Protestant.
So I suppose you could kind of say the concept behind its formation was ... oh yeah ... a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant.
Of course Cromwell wasn't around to really comment on the whole thing at the time, being a little bit dead and that.
“The border was drawn up as to include only counties with a protestant majority, the only sensible way to do it.”
- ah yes protestant majority you say. So thats the Protestant aspect of “a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant” handled.
You do remember what this is all about, ..... right ?
“So, not one shred of evidence to support this previously un-heard of “20th century political and historical fact”.”
- and you say this right after saying that “The border was drawn up as to include only counties with a protestant majority”.
Well done you. Would you like to enlighten the forum as to in which century the border was drawn up. Could it maybe have been the 20th century ?
“Which of course you are entitled to, however you cannot pretend it is fact.”
- I dont need to pretend any facts, they're readily available online, indeed theres no need to even go searching, you yourself point out that “The border was drawn up as to include only counties with a protestant majority”.
Why would they do that .... would it perhaps be to form “a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant.”
Sound familiar ?
Works great with the British electoral system... If the wrong majority is selected, concentrate the right majority in a disputed territory and 'vote' again...
May 15th, 2015 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like a charm!
50 Vestige
May 15th, 2015 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are getting very confused here, N.I. was not born as a result of your alleged “concept”, if anything the “concept” would have come into being as a result of the necessity of partition.
Partition was the result of no agreement being possible on a united Ireland.
Faced with a partition, it makes perfect sense to draw a border with the
Nationalists one side and the Loyalist the other.
To do it any other way would be a frankly pointless exercise.
The inevitable result of the border was the development of different identities on either side of it.
Cart before the horse I’m afraid, as we say, you're confusing cause with effect.
And you are correct, this is all available on line.
So how come you don’t know any of it, eh?
@ 51 Stevie
Only Parliamentary elections are FPTP in N.I. all others such as local and EU are PR system.
No dispute as to who the majority were in 1921, as Vesty is complaining so bitterly.
Who cares...
May 15th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Northern Irish...Irish....they are all Irish...
That's how the rest of the world sees them....
“Faced with a partition, it makes perfect sense to draw a border with the
May 15th, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nationalists one side and the Loyalist the other.”
Right. Irish nationalists on one side, British loyalists on the other.
Sounds like an idea of sorts, or as some may call it a “concept”.
So now you have a region designated on 1. Protestantism from your earlier comment (#49), and 2. loyalty to Britain as you say in comment 52.
Sounds a bit like “a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant.”
And thats what it was initially, and in previous days, and thats still how it is to a good extent in the north eastern areas of N.I nowadays.
(Why else only 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster be selected to make up this new region of the UK. Can you think of a reason other than political identity or religion ... perhaps its was based off of favored pizza toppings, or support for different football teams.)
The demographic and political maps however are looking a wee bit different these days to say a mere 20 years ago. The concept didn't take the Catholic approach to reproduction into account, that was the fatal oversight and why today GB is playing rent-a-citizen in the south west of NI, and paying off people who wouldn't give the steam off their pss for Britain.
£10 billion annual subvention.
for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_Northern_Ireland_by_national_identity
lol - plan fail.
@54 Vestige
May 15th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to be deliberately trying to confuse HOW the partition was done with WHY the partition was done.
Quoting the HOW as some sort of evidence of WHY.
Both fallacious in the extreme, to the point of very silly.
Let me remind you, because I’m good like that.
Q: “why you think n.i was formed in 1st place”
A: “N.I came about because no agreement was possible on a united Ireland”
You have your answer, no “concepts” involved, irrespective of HOW the partition was done.
Although football teams probably would work very well there.
yeah....I'm going for Pepperoni ...versus Ham and Pineapple...
May 15th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Evasive Pugol.
May 15th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to use obfuscation by means of questions of how and why, in order to deny that N.I was conceived and so engineered as I correctly stated to be a region of British and Protestant cultural bias.
H0w and why were nothing to do with my correct assertion.
Only that it did happen.
Sidetracking wont save you.
@57 Vestige
May 16th, 2015 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I’ll spell it out for you, as you are clearly trying not to understand what is being said.
N.I. was conceived out of the failure of the talks on a united Ireland, nothing else, no “concepts” or secret master plan involved.
Of course it was engineered to be a predominantly Protestant province, no point in doing a partition in any other way.
Is that simple enough for you?
Well ... we're getting there, slowly, but getting there.
May 16th, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First we managed to get you to say:
“The border was drawn up as to include only counties with a protestant majority”.
Then “it makes perfect sense to draw a border with the
Nationalists one side and the Loyalist the other”.
And now that “N.I. was conceived”.
and “ was engineered to be a predominantly Protestant province”
Starting to sound like, to directly quote oneself, “a region with strong local cultural biases towards being British, and/or Protestant.”
Now all you need do is realize I mentioned nothing of a secret master plan.
Or plural 'concepts'.
And thats quite easily done by simply using the find word function.
Go ahead, give it a try. (hint; use the mouse and buttons)
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