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Gibraltarians will be able to vote in UK's referendum on ties with European Union
Gibraltarians will be able to vote in Britain’s referendum on whether to sever ties with the European Union. The franchise for referendum, promised by Prime Minister David Cameron by the end of 2017, will be based on that for a UK general election - meaning Irish, Maltese and Cypriots resident in the UK will get a vote, but other EU citizens will not. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI really hope and wish we would all realise and take this chance to get out of this doomed organisation, but the odds are going to get stacked for staying in, Cameron will make sure of that. The whole thing is pretty pointless to be honest.
May 25th, 2015 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mercopress- Your headline is incorrect. The only Gibraltarians who can vote in this are those who are resident in the UK long enough to qualify for the UK electoral role will be able to vote.
May 25th, 2015 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltarians who reside in Gibraltar will not!
UK are being very democratic and normal - using their normal electoral role of those who qualify to vote.
@1. Then, for a start, write to your MP. I detect a slight change in position. In 2010, I contacted my MP to say that I wanted to see the UK out of the EU. The response was that Cameron believed it was better to stay in and try to change matters from the inside. Has he realised that trying to engineer change from the inside doesn't work? Has he realised that the EU is now composed mostly of poor countries that want to leech off the others? Here's a useful article. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095556/Dave-demand-earth-Europe-s-leaders-amazed-wants-LITTLE-says-Daniel-Hannan-Conservative-MEP.html
May 25th, 2015 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't Britons just want a trading relationship without Europeans telling us how to live? It's not enough to just vote when the moment comes. Look at the number of idiots that think it's right for Britain to stay in. Question them and they mutter, for example, that most of Britain's trade is with the EU. Is it? Never mind the 'statistics'. Here's one real bit of truth. Exports from the UK that are transported via the containerports of Antwerp and Rotterdam are counted as exports to the EU. No matter the final destination. It wasn't long ago that the 'statistics' showed that Britain's trade with the EU was down to about 45% and with the rest of the world up to 55%. And if 10% goes via Antwerp or Rotterdam? Only 35% with the EU and 65% with the rest of the world. Just think about how much is containerised these days. This situation is effectively admitted by the ONS, but in a sort of 'throwaway' fashion.
Islander1
May 25th, 2015 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reread the article:
“The Bill will make clear that the franchise will be based on that for a general election, plus members of the House of Lords and Commonwealth citizens in Gibraltar.”
So any Commonwealth citizen in Gibraltar (which means every single Gibraltan) can vote!
4 Skip- oops sorry and apologies to M-press also. I had not absorbed the full release! I guess there are both pros and cons in allowing it in the case of Gibraltar as they are far more effected than the other Overseas territories.
May 25th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Cameron can get a better deal...I'm in...
May 25th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not.. I'm out...
That's how I'll vote...
If Cameron can get a better deal...I'm in...
May 25th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not.. I'm out...
That's how I'll vote...
interesting philosophy,
can you be a bit more specific on [ better deal ]
the reason being, Cameron will say that its a better deal no matter what, would you not agree in part.
just a thought.
once that england or the leftovers of the uk leave the EU, the gate will be closed.
May 25th, 2015 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now, what are the chances of the macacos / llanitos to survive when the cage is closed?
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May 25th, 2015 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ what are the chances of the macacos / llanitos to survive when the cage is closed?”
What's stopping them trade with Morocco?
In the EU, Spain are stupid towards Gibraltar, so it won't make much difference when they are out, except I am not sure whether Gib will employ as many Spanish workers. Gibraltar will survive, but what are the Spanish fishing fleets going to do when British waters are closed off to EU fishermen?
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May 25th, 2015 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0trade with morocco?
lol
and trading what?
monkey droppings
guess they will not risk their commerce with spain.
what the f*ck can the macacos buy?
a pair of bananas?
they are as insignificant as the bennys.
Economía de Marruecos
Destino de exportaciones: España 22,02%, Francia 20,22%, India 4,91%, Italia 4%,
Origen de importaciones; Francia 16,95%, España 14,72%, República Popular de China 7,1%, Italia 6,76%, Alemania 6,28%, Estados Unidos 5,66%, Arabia Saudí 5,11%
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May 26th, 2015 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Briton...my main concern is Benefit Tourism....unemployed EU migrants claiming benefits in the UK ..social housing and free health care...
Also European Laws overruling UK laws...either this is a Sovereign Country or it's not...
Gibraltar will never be part of Spain; no matter what the UK decides regarding EU membership.
May 26th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK has the second lowest amount of its trade within the EU, it is more diversified. Even if it left the EU, it would then become the EU's largest trading partner.
Funnily enough the UK is the economy most able to survive leaving.
skippy
May 26th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the left overs of the uk are one of the most indebted nations on earth.
and 90% of that debt is with the EU.
sooner than later that time bomb will explode.
i strongly doubt that the left overs of the uk can survive to another economic disaster.
11 Voice
May 26th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fair enough and I agree, mind you Germany and France stuck the knife in today....
13 paulcedron ,
you know nowt,
Europe will benefit the rich and powerful magnets
we all will suffer, we are better out.
Paul
May 27th, 2015 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Though your comment is lucid and devoid of the usual juvenile insults, it still doesn't make sense. However I am finally glad that I can reply to you.
So what if the UK has debt! Because what does that have to do with this? It will have debt inside or outside the EU. The debt will will not change.
As for not surviving “another economic disaster”. Why? Didn't Argentina survive its last one? What about the one before that? And the one before that?
Actually how many times has Argentina defaulted in the past 100 years? And yet it is still around.
Still around and still functioning?
The UK, with an economy that is probably 10x larger than Argentina's will survive. It hasn't defaulted as much as Argentina and when the IMF came and went, they didn't gnash their teeth about it for nearly 20 years afterwards.
However, after all that, I am unsure why leaving the EU will create a debt crisis. Economic dislocation is not a crisis.
The UK is one of the largest economies on the planet. It will survive.
Apparently Camron has dropped one at the first hurdle,
May 27th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0the ECHR is in the long grass,
the next hurdle approaches.?
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