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Argentine union leader expelled from ILO meeting for stealing a tablet
An Argentine trade unionist attending the International Labor Organization 104 Annual Assembly in Geneva was expelled from ILO and sent back to Argentina following on several cameras that caught him red-handed trying to steal the tablet of another member attending the meeting. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat an idiot.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0His hotel room, or hostel?? is probably missing a few towels as well.
typically arg.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0although not being a member of the ck robberment gang.
Did anyone else laugh out loud when they read this?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine being sent home for stealing? Will he be embarrassed? Only that he didn't get away with it.
Why did the CTA delegates leave with the perpetrator, it looks like they are firmly behind him. Would have been better for the delegates to issue a statement firmly abhoring his behaviour, not condoning it. Is this typical of Argentine behaviour?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Maybe they were worried their luggage would be searched and more stolen loot would be discovered.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0How embarrassing!
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0How low can you get?
Doesn't he care that he has really let Argentina's side down?
Or is it normal behaviour for Argentines abroad?
lf l were Cristina, l would have him shot for embarrassing his country in front of foreigners.
Or maybe exiled to Antarctica to work as a toilet cleaner in Argentina's base there. lol!
@4 ElaineB,
Now you've given me the giggles.
A bit of irony for those denying a strong southern-Italian influence in the Argentinian notional character: Guillermo Pacagnini, member of the Argentine Workers Socialist Movement, mentions in his bio that his family originally emigrated from Calabria.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://guillermopacagnini.mst.org.ar
Yes, 5 Elaine B, we all laughed out loud, but bitterly and ironically.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0AND YES, 6 Isolde, it is normal that Argentines are so bereft of scruples and so inured to shame that this is, indeed, normal behavior--as much in Argentina as abroad.
¡Sí, este comportamiento es normal por un argentino. Además, ¡es por esperar! Si no lo hubiera hecho, no hubiera sido un argentino . . . LOS ARGENTINOS MUESTRAN GRAN ORGULLO AL “AFANAR” O ENGAÑAR A ELLOS MISMOS O EXTRANJEROS . . . ESPECIALMENTE A SUS PROPIOS MIEMBROS DE FAMILIA Y LOS DEMÁS INDEFENSOS. (Al escuchar de un incidente parecido, sus sonrisas socarronas son normales y para esperar. ¡DE OTRA MANERA, NO SERÍAN ARGENTINOS!)
@ 3 ElaineB
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yes, PMSL!
Apparently the thieving nature of those who “rule” in SA extends to doctors!
Is there no self esteem among the Peronistas / K's or is it the nature of the beast?
Unsurprising he is of Calabrian extraction.
This is humorous for me on several perspectives, especially after a marathon debate on another thread about southern-Italian-Argentines.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do not and I stress, DO NOT shake the hand of an Argentino as you will probably lose your fingers LOL
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, whata me? Whadaya mean, us Italiano Argentinos knocking off tablets? And, he gotta caught?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a mistaka to maka?
#12 Alberto
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should have been in the debate over at: “Argentine businessman indicted by US in FIFA corruption case, turns in Italy” it seems someone over there doesn't believe Argentina has a strong Italian influence...
What? An argie is a thief? Who would have thought? Does that automatically make him the next governor of Buenos Aires province?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But as the hooligan who sprayed the River Plate team with pepper spray said in his defence “I didn't know that there were cameras present”
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Chicureo. My friend, us Italaliano Argentinos.. Where do you think the Argentine armed forces ability to maka quicka retreat comes from? Its not Levis, its Italian genes!
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a mistaka to maka…
Here I am, on the right in the best uniform…
http://i2.cdnds.net/10/30/550w_showbiz_ds_icon_arthur_bostrom_04.jpg
Stole a tablet?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At first I thought he had been pilfering Valium. Such was his dread of returning home. ...
Workers of the world unite! Thieves, too!
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0-----------------------------------
Dear CD2:
It must be unsettling to have your public persona challenged and rented so easily.
Here is a link that explains some of the services available and the science associated with them.
http://www.dna-testing-adviser.com/EthnicDNATesting.html
No need to remain ignorant and project.
With knowledge you can learn to anticipate some of your genetic dispositions - those of both health and behavior - and to compensate for them.
Many of us have previous participated in studies utilizing these results.
Often one feels liberated from the burdens of specific cultures which they they have taken up for no good reason.
With third party participation you and we could establish what you are and aren't.
And lastly:
Trolls are trolls - i.e. think/voice/etc. acknowledge it and even revel in it and seem upon occasion to draw a certain perverse pleasure from being so -
not unlike Smaegol . . . .
So CD2, you may wish to fall in line:
rotting roadkill trolls on the left
island trolls on the right
Depending on the brand etc, that table back in Argentina represents 1 year of someone's wages.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its all about perspective.
#18 Cronic
Jun 15th, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I appreciate your desire to assist our dear friend Cabeza Dura regarding his ancestry as well as his perspective of the ethnic makeup of Argentina. He needs serious help.
#19 Yankeeboy
True, but it's all about ethics and morals. Worst of all is the humiliation for the Argentine delegation in Switzerland as well as the ruined reputation of Dr. Pacagnini
#3 I did.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 020. Argentinians should be used to being embarrassed. Plus the backward way they think they don't even realize they did something wrong. It was the other guys fault for not taking better care of his stuff. He deserved to get it stolen.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is why I continue to say they shouldn't be let around civilized people.
@20 I seriously doubt there will be any consequences of Dr. Pacagnini's behaviour in Argentina. He may be ribbed for being caught but surely it will be viewed as the Panamanian's fault for leaving something unattended next to an Argentine.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His reply at being caught, “ well he left it there I just could not resist it, its his fault”.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bastard Panamanians, deliberately tempting us into stealing their property!
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is, like, totally their fault, right?
We always get the blame. This is victim-shaming at its worst. I shall complain to the UN immediately!
(Ad Nauseum)
Well I would also suggest Argentine kleptomania is not just limited to personal property and remind everyone of my neighbors persistent habit of stealing Chilean territory, but then someone from Peru or Bolivia might put me in my back in my place...
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A great demonstration of class... or lack there of... I would have been best if the Swiss locked him up for theft....
Jun 15th, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Waiting for Paul, Nostrils, Axel,voice, think, to 'rationalise' this...
Jun 15th, 2015 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What an embarrassment!!
@22 yankeeboy . . . I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say, however . . .
Jun 15th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ONCE AGAIN THIEVES, Argentines stole the word ARGENTINEAN from German. Use ARGENTINE, the English language noun and adjective. Dictionaries only recently listed the German word, but as a last-resort, least preferred unfortunate form.
28. What - no Reeeekie?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you notice the likes of paulcedron
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are very quiet lol.
#29 PhraseWizard
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA is to blame for YB's use. After 12 years of using a British taught form of spelling and vocabulary, I was pretty much forced to switch to the American manner. Also, Americans have a tough time of “the Argentine”
He is just another vago/negro from the MST.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Professional at blocking roads and picketing in the street.
A better questions is: What was this turd of human doing there representing Argentina in the first place.
32. :)
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guillermo Pacagnini = typical rotting roadkillian - lying, thieving or both.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0… .and, did he steal it for revenge… Argentina 2 Paraguay 2?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://youtu.be/DrTiQwFFI8E
Lol! Its like a religion
18. Thank you very much but I would consider of far greater urgency your need of leaving cocaine.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paulie flicks through his La Campora “rebuttal points” folder.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then after 20-mins says, “Nope, I got nothin.”
It is hard to defend.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have they thrown him a parade?
39. Nah, the customs people would have stolen it anyway.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 037. CD2=deflecting because the truth stings . . . .
Jun 16th, 2015 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 038. That's actually pretty funny.
Argland,
Jun 16th, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0soon to print another 2 Peso note, celebrating “I got caught - but didn't go to jail”
FYI: Troy Tempest, Brasileiro, Voice, CabezaDura2 are all sock puppets of an idiot living in the United States.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way the Argentine media has had a lot of versions regarding this scandal. One commentator justified the theft as that of some careless Panamanian leaving his gold Rolex on the conference table. ...The temptation even for the decent person is too great...
Security cameras really do make us all honest...
@43 I don't think it is limited to those names, if I am honest.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I rather expected it to be portrayed in this way. The only thing he did wrong was get caught.
#44 Elaine
Jun 16th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I agree, including he changes their political, racial and grammatical diatribes, but in the past they were identical in English grammar.
We just caught up in being spoofed.
By the way add Trunce to the sock puppet list as well. Brasileiro, Voice, CabezaDura2 and Troy Tempest are just a few.
@45 I think there has always been an idea that some identities are held by the same person and that different people use the same log-in. Just look at Brasileiro's post - there range from reasonably coherent English to absolute nonsense.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the poster can't hide is their inherent character flaws. They always emerge, especially when they are losing an argument or get angry. The poster also uses some identical idioms that really wouldn't be used by South Americans. All that said, it really says more about their messed-up behaviour than anyone else's.
Rather than worry about who is behind it I concentrate on the content of the message. I will say this, whoever it is has an unhealthy interest in obtaining personal information to twist and use as insults. They have zero interest in debating the news items here but crave attention. It is all about their ego. It is probably worth remembering that when responding.
46. That last paragraph describes Think and Voice exactly.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a weird and very creepy obsession.
and I bet their like that in person too
@47 It is weird. Don't be drawn into it other than to debate their comments. Of course, they will weave a story about you from the few innocuous statements you have made, take them out of context and turn them into something unrecognisable but this is a product of their warped imagination, so don't attempt to correct them, it is just another way of them garnering information. I have been called everything from a petulant teenager to having one foot in the grave - let it slide.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of topic - kind of - Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras appears to be a huge fan of the way Argentines of negotiating not paying their debts. “They are out to humiliate us and make us stop spending”, they weep.. They omit to add that the majority of the pension cuts are for politicians and former politicians.
48. Yes I notice Greece was imitating the Ks. They may have the same outcome too. I think everyone is sick to death of them and wish they'd just go away.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ISOLDA
Jun 16th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Or is it normal behaviour for Argentines abroad?”
maybe.
now, is THIS the normal behaviour for english abroad???
eh?????
“Costa del Sol murder: father left confession note
The Briton believed to have shot dead his wife and handicapped daughter before turning the gun on himself left a written confession apologising, it has been claimed.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10145317/Costa-del-Sol-murder-father-left-confession-note.html
“British man 'kills German tourist' after he was caught filming daughter in Spain”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10145317/Costa-del-Sol-murder-father-left-confession-note.html
“British tourist arrested for 'battering father to death in fight at Spanish campsite' could have been rowing with him over spilt drink”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10145317/Costa-del-Sol-murder-father-left-confession-note.html
DISGUSTING
Tut tut..
Jun 16th, 2015 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 50 POLLY
Jun 16th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, that's three Brits you have managed to find.
What about YOUR despicable and vile country where a man batters his wife / partner / girlfriend to DEATH every 30 HOURS?
Did you see the worried women outside the National Assembly building protesting about this?
Apparently this has been going on FOREVER!
Thousands of women killed!
So what do you say about that?
Whats the matter paulcedron?
Jun 16th, 2015 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A tit-for-tat game now being played by you?
Of course the three cases that you mentioned are despicable, but the topic was about an Argentine abroad, representing his country & attempting to steal from his fellow representative.
Completely different scenes.
ls that the best that you can do, paulcedron?
lf l was in that situation, l would have died from shame.
Whats the betting that our Argentine is just angry because he was caught? lol.
Also, nabolito paulli, please answer ChrisR @ post #52. lf you can.
ldiot child.
@4 golfcronie
Jun 16th, 2015 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why did the CTA delegates leave with the perpetrator, it looks like they are firmly behind him. Would have been better for the delegates to issue a statement firmly abhoring his behaviour, not condoning it.”
Honour amongst thieves. If he mentions that he has thought of invading the Falklands (but hasn't got round to actually doing that), Argentina will back his actions, accuse the UK of colonialism and award him a medal.
Sock puppet curiosity causes consternation...
Jun 16th, 2015 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/16/argentina-s-may-official-inflation-1-or-half-that-claimed-by-private-consultants#comment402196. @36
50 PaulCedron:
Jun 17th, 2015 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0PRIDE BEFORE A FALL
You Argentines never get the point: You're unable to say “You're right!”
“You're right, our behavior is despicable,” (If you weren't so arrogant, we would then understand if you went on to politely murmur, “However, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.” But no . . . no humbleness in sight.
(You Argentines cannot seem to understand that all this bitter derisiveness toward you is not vilification; you do that to yourselves. Our comments are because you're so ARROGANT, on top of having no cause for pride, not the faintest of bases to even privately think you're superior, let alone publicly look down your noses at everybody else.)
Civilized societies decry bad behavior, arrest, prosecute and punish evil doers. Not Argentina. Argentines themselves have for decades cried in frustration about the IMPUNITY of the privileged and powerful, at the same time slyly congratulating themselves for getting away with having taken advantage of a colleague, a friend, a sister, brother or their own mother.
You're a disgusting society.
TAKE THE FIRST STEP: LEARN HUMILITY!
#56 PW
Jun 17th, 2015 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Two of my closest friends are Argentines and they'll be the first to admit that being humble is nearly impossible for the race. We “muy humilde” Chileans are extremely modest, despite being the greatest country in a Latin America.
Sock puppets have been gorging themselves with free cookies and are starting to have a pain in their tummies....please don't pay any attention to those blabber mouth Germans over at www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-trojaner-kaspersky-enttarnt-regin-a-1015222.html as José can always buy you a new computer for Christmas...
On a no related subject, imagine a web page that no one ever really visits, gets 34 visits, of which several were repeated by the same IP...
CHICUREO: You're rambling (andas deambulando, a la deriva), ¡Por favor, guarda silencio, hasta tienes algo para contribuir! Arrastraste abajo la conversación.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 056 phrasewizard
Jun 17th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You Argentines never get the point: ”
but my dear phrasewizard...it seems it is YOU who never gets the point, no?
the point here is that generalizations are always the best indicator of ignorance.
so, it is ridiculous to say that ALL the argentines are exactly like this thief, as it is ridiculous to say that all the british are like those murderers.
not a surprise that my beloved isolda, christine, you and the not-too-bright chilote always resort to generalizations.
you should read one of the several books about stereotypes and “reasonable” racism.
Not most Argentinians are kleptomaniacs, but there are many...especially Porteños. All the Peronist politicians are thieves.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The mix of Italians predominately from the south with the Spaniards and mestizos in Argentina created a their infamous “Viveza criolla” mentality. Chile and Uruguay have some similar traits, but fortunately far less.
Hahahah, Thanks Chicureo for your remark. You describe it very well.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Believe it or not, I do know a few peronists that are honest.
They won't make very far.
#59paulcedron . . . Agreed. Until now, I have always begun my comments with, “Most Argentines are not like . . .” or something similar. But you apparently don't know what it's like to have been a foreigner in your country and to have received treatment, and seen others treated similarly, that we've never seen in any civilized country.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are good people in Argentina. THE EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE: SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN ARGENTINA. I've lived and worked in more than 60 countries. As a social journalist, I have been considered a trustworthy assessor of situations and the character and mood of crowds and countries.
SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN ARGENTINA.
@62
Jun 18th, 2015 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, something is really rotten in Argentina. Even if you are an 'Argentino' and point something unethical out, you run the risk of getting the 'boludo' treatment.
62
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Until now, I have always begun my comments with, “Most Argentines are not like . . .” or something similar.”
And
“You Argentines never get the point:”
And
“You Argentines cannot seem to understand that all this bitter derisiveness toward you is not vilification; you do that to yourselves. Our comments are because you're so ARROGANT, ”
And
“You're a disgusting society.”
Are you sure you have always begun your comments with “Most Argentines...”
It sounds like a not too elaborate generalisation to me.
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