MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine province makes it mandatory to sing a march dedicated to Malvinas Islands
The Argentine province of Salta has passed a law forcing people to sing a song at every public event declaring that the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina. The law will also require every state school in the province to sing the song, known as ”Lilian Guitián, alongside the national anthem. Read full article
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Jun 18th, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if Argentines really know just how pathetic these 'stunts' actually make them look to the world.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0They started a war, which they then lost, despite having ALL of the advantage.
They will never get the Falklands and they know it.
Ah, I love the smell of desperation coming from Argentina. Every time they pull a stunt like this the smell becomes more pungent, and their desperation more obvious.
Argentina: Pathetic. Corrupt. Useless. Failing. Devolving. Finished.
How embarrassing. Grown men and women being forced to sing government propaganda songs. What's next, compulsory botox and personality glasses so the resemble their dear leaders?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Top Gear, Top Gear!
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0They sent 11,000 troops, their Navy and their whole airforce, but Britain defeated them and sent them home with their tails between their legs. There is more to worry Argentines than this - where is your next toilet roll coming from, and, will you be able to afford one, or, should you save it for Christmas?
@3 What is worrying is that the children will be forced to sing it and it “is promoted on the website of the country’s Ministry of Education”. Brainwashing.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is odd it that Argentines pride themselves on not following rules and laws and yet they accept this.
Two words - ¡que locura!
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are they a bit worried that the primary school indoctrination failed and so they now have to legally force the adults to sing their political songs as well?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0As long as Argentina never attempts again to compel the Falkland Islanders to do anything they don't want to do then that is all that matters.
Their civic meltdown continues unabated .
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0They should me asking themselves why Falkland Islanders have the best quality of life and wages in that neighbourhood.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing the poem got wrong, was that it was never their pearl to lose, it's a pearl under a foreign flag, that's for sure. They just want it.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0How utterly pathetic.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because we mainly ignore the idiots, they must feel that they have to try harder!
Try-hards all!
About time that we put a claim in for the southern half of Patagonia.
Well we were there before the Argentines.
lf l want it, it must be mine, no?
I feel sorry for the children being brainwashed in this manner.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0What, is that it? Just one song? What kind of wallowing in self-pity is this? Surely there should be a proper opera, or at least a tribute album or something?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0How about a 1982 commemorative version of “Send in the clowns?”.
I don't think they would want me singing that shit.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0North Korea here we come!
Next they will be forced to watch the propagandist TeleSur Tv. And reruns of la cretina's cadena nacionals. There have been 24 this year already. Wake up people...you already have the government telling you how you can spend your money.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people of Goose Green were made prisoners in the hall, in the middle of Goose Green settlement, and used as “human shields”. There were 114 locked in the Hall for 30 days, without access to toilet facilities or proper food. They weren't allowed out, mainly because the RGs were using their houses as somewhere warm to sleep. The RGs used chests of drawers as toilets, didn't know they could use peat to keep warm. There was nothing dignified about the way they treated the inhabitants and if there was anybody being heroic at any time it would have been the locals, despite the fight the RGs put up when attacked by the Paras.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It pisses me off that the RG “government”, at every turn, seeks to make something out of their “claim”. Nothing would please me more than for them to just curl up in some corner of the pampas and die.
If they were used as human shields civilian fatalities would have been higher. The Argentinians killed no civilians directly. Those killed died due to misdirected British fire. Look at the Gaza Strip to see what damage an invading army using human shields can cause.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, La Campora brainwash the kids, so this is nothing new.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Neanderthals, what a sick law. Shame on them.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Patagonia was Falklander? No it wasn't, and no you were not there before anyone, even Argentines.
Try again. It's funny to see how you chastise those who are brainwashed by citing some brainwashing of your own! (Patagonia was British / Falklander)
the arg robberment gang under ck forgot (as usual) that the arg ancestors were landrobbers, invaders who stole the land from the indigenous who are still today living under worst conditions and pressure of the args.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Jun 18th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“arg ancestors were landrobbers, invaders who stole the land from the indigenous”
So what you are saying is that you share ancestors with the argies?
Argentina.... the great modern democracy!
Jun 18th, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This kind of stuff should scare the crap out of a thinking Rg.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next thing you know they're going to be singing to the “glorious leader” FatMax
@23
Jun 18th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Speaking of something that should scare the crap out of a society....
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/us/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/
Burn baby burn (Part III)
Argentina is supposed to be a democratic country since the fall of Junta some 30 years ago. But, is it really compatible with democracy to make it “mandatory” to sing certain songs. What will the penalty be if they do not sing? If an organisation should be started with the aim to work for a drop of the “Malvinas Claim”, do they also have to sing such songs at their meetings. The whole thing is getting more and more bizarre.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 09 Voice, Vestige, Think et al
Jun 18th, 2015 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you could give us a rendition of your own sore-loser swan-song “I'm a loser and I'm not what I appear to be...”, and try and take your beatings like man.
@17. Perhaps PDG0192 didn't clarify 'human shields' enough for you. Are you old enough to remember the Iraq War? The disgusting tv broadcasts showing Sod_him running his hands over British children. 'Human shields'. It is a breach of international law not to afford protection to civilians in a war zone. It is equally a breach of international law to place weapons systems amongst civilian properties. Both can be described as 'human shields'. Placing non-combatants to shield armed forces. Placing weapons systems where non-combatants could be injured/killed. Regrettably, a British warship thought its accuracy was good enough. But who can tell? Once a shell is in the air, it's subject to outside factors. Three Falkland Islands martyrs who died in the defence of their homes.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21. NOBODY civilised shares ancestors with argies.
@25. Argieland isn't 'democratic'. It has a democratic facade. That's all. 'Democratic' elections where votes are bought and sold. 'Democratic' government where the 'leader' of the 'government' won't answer direct questions from the people. How many 'press conferences' have you seen where Kirchner answers questions? There was an occasion in the U.S. where she took questions 'from the floor'. She finished up insulting the questioner. And still didn't answer the question. Peronism is fascism/nazism. The cult of nationalism wedded to the cult of 'the leader'. How curious that the German word 'Fuhrer' is the same in spanish.
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Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just keep giving....;-)
Not content with supplying fiction as fact....you are now confused as to which thread you are on...
Some adversary.....
...not....
Anyone know what the La Camporita's neck scarf color is?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't Red by chance is it?
Filthy Thugs.
I just can't fathom why the Arg populations doesn't see where this is going..
Just like Chavistas to the North it is bound to fail
and fail badly
I can't wait until middle class housewives are street fighting over the last bag of beans in BA.
Absurd and ridiculous fascist initiative from the commies running the pink house.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all Argie trolls and malvinistas the word is...
Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0D E S P E R A T I O N
My how Argentina stinks of it.
And in the meantime the Falkland Islands remain a free democracy whose people enjoy self determination and are protected by a whopping 1,200 military personnel who frighten the sh!t out of your ENTIRE armed forces.
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
“Lilian Guitián, who proposed the law, said it showed the “importance of this subject in our society” and would be a good way of paying homage to the Argentine soldiers who gave their lives in the 1982 war with Britain over the Islands.”
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? A good way of paying homage is simply to visit their graves.
If you want the Islands, talk to the islanders or go to the ICJ-just another impotent stunt. Singing fairy tales ain't going to get you very far.
The fact that people in WW2 sang ”Hitler, has only got one ball, the other is in the Albert Hall' repetitively, doesn't mean to my best knowledge, that one of Hitler's balls is actually resident in the Albert Hall.
Which flags does the jacket of the shooter in Carolina had?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One with the South African Apartheid flag! And within that flag what flag!
The Union Jack of course.
So the ANGLO invades the North American continent, usurps and deracinates the real American inhabitants... then SHIP millions of Africans against their will... then invade the African lands themselves... and then THEY feel that the Blacks and natives are unwelcomed and shoot them in a church!
What a proud Anglo heritage.
rotting roadkill lost - period
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 Tobais
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0D E S P E R A T I O N
Can you smell it? It's coming off Argentina in waves. You reek of it.
You really are desperately, so desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel with your post.
It's really pathetic and terribly DESPERATE.
You must be REALLY embarrassed about this story to try and deflect attention away like this.
But like Argentina you are a FAILURE.
Argentine DESPERATION. Mmmmm, what a unique stench.
And the Anglos are a success how exactly to be calling others failures?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33
Jun 18th, 2015 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but Argentina are trying to replicate the shortcomings of Britain in the past-it's like saying the British colonised so it's our turn to use the same bullying tactics that the British ditched years ago.
It is true to say that while the Brits did some bad things in the past, we were not chucking thousands of unarmed people into the sea and gouging priests eyes out 30 years ago (note not over 70 years ago, just 30 years ago). So while Britain has learned from its mistakes and given colonies either independence or support and more autonomy, Argentina wishes to replicate the UK's previous imperial ambitions.
I have always called Argentina's Falkland obsession ridiculous, irrational, and I want no part in it. Part of an appalling education system which I also always flay and lambaste.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Jun 18th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yours is a very enlightening perspective. I wish some of the Malvinistas here are open minded enough to understand it.
This isn't even worth getting outraged about. It's just sad.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33. You don't have much knowledge of history, do you? Unfortunately, the REAL Anglos allied with the Amerindians. It was only when colonialist imperialists from France, Germany, Italy and spain turned up and pretended to be 'American' that the Indians had problems. Explain the difference with British Canada. British Canada didn't let the French, Germans, Italians and spanish in.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got some statistics on African chiefs selling their own people? Apparently fairly typical. Saved eating them!
@36. How are Anglos a success? Argie GDP $953.029 billion. Australia GDP $1.137 trillion. Canada GDP $1.591 trillion. New Zealand GDP $164.965 billion. UK GDP $2.549 trillion. USA GDP $17.418 trillion. How many times wealthier than you are we? Conflicts and unrest around the world? What does argieland do? It hides. Being incompetent cowards, would argies ever volunteer to go where they might have to fight? Maybe they'd meet up with proper troops. Like the British. And get their arses kicked again. Perhaps they'd go forward. But only with a British bayonet in their spines.
Time for you to recognise that you are 10th class. You have no credibility, no integrity, no worth.
@37. Not really true. Would you like to compare what Britain did to what France, Germany, Italy, spain did? Just an example, spaniards used to take indigenous Amerindian people and either burn them or garotte them for not being Christian. How enlightened. The French were somewhat similar except that they used the guillotine. Germans and Italians have always been murderous. The Italians remember 'the arena'. The Germans think of sacrifice. What do argies 'like'? They don't like honesty, integrity, truth? What are the objections to 'extermination'?
When and where will it be “obligatory” to sing it? How will people get permission to stop singing it?
Jun 18th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine province makes it mandatory
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You vill do as eye say or you vill be shot at dawn.
velcome to mein argent democracy lol.
@38 Tobias
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have always called Argentina's Falkland obsession ridiculous, irrational, and I want no part in it. Part of an appalling education system which I also always flay and lambaste.”
Yet instead of commenting on this story, regardless of whether you support the move or not, you DESPERATELY try to deflect the thread onto a COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT topic.
Why is that?
And why is it you ALWAYS comment on Falklands related threads even though you DON'T support Argentina's erroneous claims?
I remember that a few years back you stated that you wouldn't comment on any more Falklands related topics, and then less than 10 minutes AFTER posting that statement, there you were COMMENTING on Falklands related topics.
You see, Tobias, it's hard to take you seriously since you never stick to your word and you are constantly changing your name, often PRETENDING to be from some other country in order to try to show that the 'whole' world supports Argentina.
In short you're pathetic just like this stupid law, and just like Argentina's imperialist colonial ambitions of empire.
Take a deep breath in Tobias. That smell is the desperation of Argentina, a country that is devolving into a cesspit.
It's a good job you don't live there, isn't it?
Apparently Argentina has just joined the world’s top 5 compulsory singing nations,
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 01, North Korea==YMCA
2, china= 99 RED BALLOONS
3, Russia= REDNIGHT TRAIN TO GEORGA
4, Iran = BATMAN
5, Argentina- HUMPTY DUMPTY.
So they say
lol
@ 36 The_troLLimpic_games
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When are you going to explain your comment on another thread about Argentina and the Pacific Ocean?
28 Voice, Vestige, Think et al
Jun 18th, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've buried you so often I'm going to give your well deserved title, to honour the acts, the zombie. If I had produced anything that was anything other than truthful you would have so indicated, so just keep on with the fallacies, because you've never been able to prove any of your assertions.
@ 17 Lucdeluc
Jun 18th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So sighting AA guns between the civilian houses is not using the Islanders as shields.
I have read your tripe before: you seem unable to grasp simple topics and comparing the direct fire in the Gaza by Arabs is as bad as that stupid comment ”The Argentinians (SIC) killed no civilians directly.“
Another Jew hater then?
BTW it's the ”Argentines”, idiot.
No - it's rotting roadkillians.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And they say there is no brainwashing in Argentina. You could make this stuff up.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Tobi,
Jun 18th, 2015 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please tell me who founded the City of Ushuaia?
Please tell me who ran their sheep in Sta Cruz Province BEFORE it was Sta Cruz Province?
Now what do you say?
Good basis for a “claim”?
I can imagine...
Jun 18th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Translation for the children to memorize:
”Oh our great patriotic loved fatherland,
How we reach out to recover for our stolen islands,
Sacred soil stained with the patriotic blood
of our most revered heroes of las Malvinas.
One day the people of our glorious great nation
will see justice and victory. Injustice will be slain!
Send the squatter vermin back to the holes where they belong and sanitize our sacred lands. The pitiful thieving pirates will be defeated! Argentina returns to its rightful place.
CHORUS (repeat twice):
The Holy Trinity blesses our great nation. The adoring love of the Virgin Maria blesses us all.”
@52 Strange...........that last part “The adoring love of the Virgin Maria blesses us all.”!
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here in Britain we, too, enjoy the ”adoring love of the Virgin Mary” - she visited us in 1061 and her shrine is in Walsingham in Norfolk. So Argentina does not have exclusivity to her protection!
Chicureo, thanks for that. Its practically unbelieveable to us here in the UK. What an infantile purile mindset. It explains completely the utterly moronic statements of most of the Argentinians that visit this site. I cannot think of anything contemporary from the UK that matches this level of childishness.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will show this to someone whose band is currently being implored to tour from all parts of SA by fans. I think it may disuade them from visiting the dark country.
Found this on another site
Jun 19th, 2015 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ once a jolly gaucho slept with a billabong
Awoke from a nightmare, hearing this song
Rule Cristina
Cristina rules the pitch
Argies will never, never be rich
Rule Cristina
Cristina hates the Brits
That referendum got on her tits
Rule Cristina
Cristina blocks the ships
Unless they carry collagen for her pouting lips
Rule Cristina
Cristina wants our oil
But wont allow a ” Bushell” to land on her soil
Waltzing Cristina, waltzing Cristina you'll still be dreaming for ever and a day
copywrite Videodawn
Sung to the tune of Waltzing Matilda.
Just to make it clear.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The lyrics are simply what I imagine...
The best way to pay respect to our fallen servicemen would be ... not to keep fueling the mistakes and wrongful ideas that lead to the war in which they offered their lives.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enough with this `malvinas´ nonsense.
Mythology is now compulsory in Argentina. In spite of their best efforts the legislators and the rest of the losers have been unable to invoke the great Malvinas lie and stir the masses to the fever pitch that they want, so they resort to legislation to force the singing of 'patriotic' songs.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0In any decent democracy such a law would be laughed out of court!
What a pathetic bunch of tossers, they are even Argentina deserves a better.
@1
Jun 19th, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Says it all...
@33. I responded to this SShit the first time I saw it. Not going to repeat myself. RSI, you know. Do you understand C-R-A-P? Cristina -Ratarse-Anal- Piglet.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 036. Answered that as well. The only 'Anglo' nation the argiescumland 'beats' is New Zealand. On the other hand, New Zealand provided a frigate in '82 so that the RN could exterminate argies.
@38. That would be 'I didn't agree' to avoid execution as a war criminal. Sorry. You're an argie. You're guilty. Can't tell you exactly when you'll be executed. Just hang (sorry) on, we'll get to you.
@52. Thanks for that. Always good to have another reason to exterminate argie vermin. Then obliterate land that they contaminated.
@54. It isn't childishness. It's mindlessness. Argieland. Shit in a cesspit.
@5 To publicly oppose this kind of laws in Argentina is a big no-no.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 That's not the actual translation, you know.
Utter childish , no wonder the world laughs at you lot.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is why have to be ever vigilant. These people are insane, they will do or try anything.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps they would like to join the Eurovision song contest,lol
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Btw folks, with corbyn running for labour leader (briefly) am wondering how we use that to publicise the fact he attended the sham Argentine conference in London during which “intefrnational ” representation was in fact expat Argentines etc. And no one signed the doc.and he was probably paid etc. Have already added it to his wikipedia page, but my wording re sham etc was removed . Lol.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Little pigs the Argentian thugs who think they're as good as the size of the egos and as big as their imaginations...
Jun 19th, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worth it makes no sense.
Conks @ 27
Jun 20th, 2015 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“How curious that the German word 'Fuhrer' is the same in spanish.”
Sorry, somebody seems to have led you up the garden path.
The lyrics is Spanish - as per Carlos Obliado
Jun 20th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tras su manto de neblinas
No las hemos de olvidar
Las Malvinas Argentinas
Clama el viento y ruge el mar
Ni de aquellos horizontes
Nuestra enseña han de arrancar
Pues su blanco está en los montes
Y en su azul se tiñe el mar
Por ausente, por vencido
Bajo extraño pabellón
Ningún suelo más querido
De la Patria en la extensión
¿Quién nos habla aquí de olvido
De renuncia, de perdón?
Ningún suelo más querido
De la Patria en la extensión
Rompa el manto de neblinas
Como un sol, nuestro ideal
Las Malvinas Argentinas
En dominio ya inmortal
Y ante el sol de nuestro emblema
Pura, nítida y triunfal
Brille “¡Oh, Patria!” en tu diadema
La perdida perla austral
Para honor de nuestro emblema
Para orgullo nacional
Brille “¡Oh, Patria!” en tu diadema
La perdida perla austral
Brille “¡Oh, Patria!” en tu diadema
La perdida perla austral
and English translation
Behind their misty quilt
We won't forget them.
“The Argentine Malvinas!”
The wind cries out and the sea roars
From those horizons
Our ensign won't be ripped either
As its white is on the hills
And the sea is tinted on its blue
For absent, for defeated
Under a strange flag
No land is more wanted
Of the Fatherland as a whole
Who's talking us here of neglect
Of renouncement, of forgiveness?
For no land is more wanted
Of the Fatherland as a whole!
Break off the misty quilt
As a sun, our ideal
The Argentinian Malvinas
Under an already immortal dominion,
And facing the sun of our emblem
Pure, distinct and victorious
Shall it shine “Oh, Fatherland!” in your diadem
The lost Southern pearl.
For honor to our emblem,
For the national pride,
Shall it shine “Oh, Fatherland!” in your diadem,
That very lost Southern pearl!
Shall it shine “Oh, Fatherland!” in your diadem,
That very lost Southern pearl!
How melodramatic.
Jun 20th, 2015 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like a Verdi Opera!
The only lost pearls here are from my broken pearl necklace.
Kids fighting & the string broke.
Aren't these RGs sensitive souls?
@68
Jun 20th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, who would want to sing shit lyrics like that?
That song describes the Falklands?
“Behind their misty quilt”
I don't remember the Falklands being shrouded in fog all the time-laughable.
“As its white is on the hills
And the sea is tinted on its blue”
This will be the next claim put to the UN-because we imagine the colours of our flag to be represented on the islands-they're ours!
“Of the Fatherland as a whole”
SIEG HEIL!
“For absent, for defeated”
I take it this means 'we lost.'
“And facing the sun of our emblem
Pure, distinct and victorious”
The smiley emoticon is victorious? Lol-You lost!“
”Who's talking us here of neglect“
Obviously you've forgotten the absence of protests from 1888 to 1942!
”The Argentinian Malvinas
Under an already immortal dominion,”
That suggests by 'immortal dominion' i.e (the Falkland Islanders owning it forever)you are not expecting to own the Islands, ever-unless a Malvanista can translate this jibber-jabber (and that's just the English version), to make it appear to mean something else.
“ And facing the sun of our emblem”-Without sunglasses,we are blinded to the historic facts, because Argentine history is made from Bullshit on the hoof?
Wear sunglasses amigos, when staring at the sun.
“For honor to our emblem,
For the national pride,
Shall it shine “Oh, Fatherland!” in your diadem,
That very lost Southern pearl!”
Translated=we continue to stick our heads up our arses.
However credit where it's due:
“Under an already immortal dominion,”=Under Falkland Islander control.
The Demalvinazation of Argentina seems to a tougher process than the Denazification of Germany after WWII. And they have to do it by themselves. But they are going the opposite way. Tragic,
Jun 20th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Buenos Aires, Casa Rosada
Jun 21st, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Presidente de la Nación Argentina
Dra. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
(English Translation)
Relations between the Argentina Nation and the United Kingdom are being pushed to the worst catastrophe as the days go by due to vicious smear campaign being conducted through the imperialist media consisting of a litany of malignant lies being currently parroted my the illegal puppet so called “Acting Governor” Sandra Tyler-Haywood of the illegally held Islas Malvinas.
Outrageous false claims of Argentina is conducting some sort of disruption and blockade of the Malvinas illegal inhabitants as well as being rightful subjects of Argentina testifies to the promotion of unwanted confrontation to hinder the eventual repatriation of the Malvinas to its rightful motherland.
The British imperial imaginary claims are getting disintegrated beyond control and hit hard from all sides for its political crisis and subsequent social catastrophe and confusion.
It is vexed with the daily increasing political might of Argentina, the might of single-minded unity of international relations growing stronger as the days go by.
The group of traitors is busy conducting the above-said false propaganda in a bid to divert elsewhere the people and the world public's bitter criticism of it.
In the grip of extreme fear and uneasiness, the regime is working hard to whip media and riff-raffs toward total confrontation with the Argentine people a foolish act of jumping into fire with a no desire to save the illegal vermin still nesting in our sacred lands. Let the dogs off hell feast on their flesh!
The Argentine government had already made a solemn declaration that those who hurt the dignity of its supreme leadership and drive South Atlantic regional relations into the worst catastrophe would be the primary target of its punishment.
They include the Malvinas illegal squatters whom will pay the ultimate penalty for their evil betrayal of the Argentine fatherland.
Do they make the children wear 'Brown Shirts' and goose step in unison while they sing this?
Jun 21st, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ACTUAL lyrics of the `malvinas march´ are the ones which were posted by Gordo at @68. I am afraid that Chicureo´s translation at @ 52 is inaccurate.
Jun 22nd, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0That `march´ used to be pretty common back in my school days during the 80s, but only for a few days surrounding April 2nd. We usually had a brief school act, and some school activities such as drawing the island´s map and coloring them with blue and withe.
Back in the 90s, when I was at high school, it was pretty much the same, except we replaced the coloring activities for `discussions´ about the islands history. And by the island´s history I mean the Argentinian side of the history only.
During my university years I had some classes about international law. And of course the `malvinas case´was there. Always, always through the Argentinian point of view only, which is pretty sad and poor considering I was in a place where open discussion should be the rule.
Nowadays, the K´s complex of re-writting history keeps fueling wrong concepts and promoting biased debates where only one side has a say.
@74 SebaSvtz
Jun 22nd, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just out of curiosity, were you taught anything about the Islands themselves (i.e. wildlife, physical Island geography, plant life) etc?
Only, many Argentines posting here don't seem to know much detail about what is actually on the Islands, and I would have thought if they claimed them, they would want to know.
@75 Pete,
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes: climate, geography, weather, etc. But only as vague references during the one or two days we talk about them at school. They were mostly described as a pretty cold place.
Never a single word about those who were living there, though.
--Only, many Argentines posting here don't seem to know much detail about what is actually on the Islands, and I would have thought if they claimed them, they would want to know--
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They dont seem to know much about the Pueblos Originarios, Campaign and Conquest of the Deserts or The Triple Alliance War either.
@77 Tobers,
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l read somewhere that when the Argentines landed in 1982, they were surprised that the population didn't speak Spanish & didn't greet them as liberators.
You are right. They don't know much about the Falklands.
Only, when reference is made to plant names that are common knowledge, there seems to a stunned silence ( as indeed there is after any reference to anything in the Islands).
Jun 24th, 2015 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@76 SebaSvtz
“They were mostly described as a pretty cold place.”
Would it surprise you to know that whilst it can be cool, there are actually very hot days sometimes because the sun is so fierce?
I mean how can a place be in your heart if you know or care jack squit about what is actually there?
@ 79 Pete
Jun 25th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0-Interesting. I´ve heard that weather changes quite a lot even during the same day down there. Also, that they are not as cold as they are usually described.
-Those islands are not ` in my heart´, btw. I care about the topic because it sadly involves the country where I live now, although I wish it was way out of our national agenda once for all.
To be 100% honest with you, I don´t think I would even consider them for a trip.
@ 77 Tobers:
Frankly, I don´t care. By the time my grand-grandparents came to live here from Europe, there were no `pueblos originarios´at all. I have zero links with them, and I don´t feel bad nor ashamed for that, just like the average US guy does not feel bad for what happened with their natives. It´s past history. Nobody says it was good, but it´s simply past. I don´t see how spinning around may be helpful at all.
All I am going to say is that I wish that those surviving natives could reach a decent level of life, rather than the misery they face now, not to mention how they are used by certain politicians who declare love for them but do nothing to help.
As for the triple alliance war: Again, past history. Argentina was invaded by Paraguay, and they paid the price. Back in those years Arg was not the sorry-ass country it is now. Arg saw an advantage and took it, just like every single country out there did in the XIX century. The current `shame´ for that victory was fueled by Peron, who wanted to have a good relationship with a paraguayan dictator.
Had the war of the triple alliance being won by Chile, they would have turned it into a national celebration, as they do with the pacific war. No regrets, but with a constructive vision of future.
just my two cents, of course.
SebaSvtz @ 80
Jun 25th, 2015 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Had the war of the triple alliance being won by Chile...”
Hardly. Chile was not involved.
@ SebaSvtz
Jun 25th, 2015 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not saying Argentines should feel bad for the treatment of Pueblos Originarios in the days of formation of the country. Actually man going to new lands and dominating colonising other men is pretty much THE history of humanity.
The problem is ARgentine nationalists obsessing and crying over las malvinas when all of their justifications for claiming the Islands are blown clear out of the water when looking at the real and perfectly obvious history of their own country. But they dont many thanks to Peron's revisionism and the 'relato'. Argentine nationalists want to believe that San MArtin And Belgrano et al were men 2 and half metres tall at the shoulders who gave the nasty spanish a deserved beating sending them packing after which the country was magically and instantaneously formed into a happy rainbow nation.
@ 82 Tobers
Jun 26th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spot on, Tobers.
As you properly point, it´s a mixture of silly nationalism and lack of education what keeps this `malvinas´bed-time story alive down here.
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