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Photo exhibition on Welsh settlers in Argentina, opened at Westminster
Parliament in London is hosting a week-long historic photographic exhibition dedicated to the Welsh settlement in Argentina, entitled: “Y Wladfa: Celebrating the 150th anniversary of the Welsh settlement in Argentina” which was officially inaugurated on Tuesday by Argentine Ambassador to the UK, Alicia Castro, and David T.C Davies MP, chairman of the House of Commons Welsh Affairs Committee. Read full article
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Jul 09th, 2015 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chicken or Leek?
Lol!
Foolish woman.
Meaningful dialogue?
Try getting a grip first.
Or at least a Gripen or 20.
Hmmm. . .
No-one takes you seriously, Madame Ambassador.
Stick to lying to the poor passengers on Aerolineas Argentinas!
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Jul 09th, 2015 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sad, sad little Englander. Why don't you go watch Top Gear.
@2 you, sir , are the sad little englander living under an assumed name in RGland...
Jul 09th, 2015 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0When the welsh settled in south america 150 years ago did that bit actually belong to Argentina? Weren't the implanted spanish still thieving their way south from BA at that time?
The excellent relations between Argentina and Wales? Nonsense - I don't see any evidence that Simon Watson was present at this non-event!
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha! I thought as much.... the implanted spanish didn't get south of the Rio Negro for another ten years....
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Later, the frontier was advanced very slowly, but in 1877 Alsina, one of the most successful governors Buenos Aires ever had, undertook a vigorous campaign. In the following year General Roca threw the power of the Federal government into this vastly important enterprise. He carried the frontier south to the Rio Negro and west to the Andes, attacking the Indians in their fortresses—a policy which insured permanent white[Pg 146] domination. The ultimate consequences of opening up to civilised settlement the immense territories comprised in Roca's conquests cannot yet properly be estimated. The vast region of Patagonia, that was marked on the maps in our boyhood as an unclaimed and uninhabitable arctic waste, has since been added to Argentina as an indirect result of Roca's campaign of 1878. ”
@5
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly. It wasn't Argentina that welcomed the Welsh, it was the Tehuelche Indians. the Welsh later tried to defend them against Argentine genocide but couldn't stop being incorporated into Argentina themselves.
Obviously, Latino-supremacism is still alive and well in Argentina.
'“I feel proud to represent a country that welcomed and gave a homeland to the Welsh and their values,”
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0So her whole speech is a lie... typical implanted RG immigrant cow
From El Clarín today
Jul 09th, 2015 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Argentina-Gran_Bretana-Malvinas-galeses-Patagonia_0_1390061373.html
Even this paper seems to suggest that not only Alicia Castro but also la Kretina will try and propagandise this anniversary - boludas!
Are there any Welsh in Patagonia that want to leave Argentina & perhaps return to Wales?
Jul 09th, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0After all the main reason that they left Wales was to preserve their Welsh language.
Well Welsh is reviving now in Wales & l'm sure that the standard of living in Wales is much higher than in the failed rogue nation of Argentina. lolz!
They found, in Argentina, a land that could live up to their dreams”, stated the Ambassador.
Jul 09th, 2015 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pity we do not have a government that can live up to our dreams.
@2. There's nothing 'little' about England. But 'little Englander” is a common snide comment from those who are nothing and have never been anything. Meanwhile, England has done it all. It's even dragged others along with it. Where would Wales be without England? We can see one place. A few Welsh ran away in 1865 to settle somewhere fourth rate. It was such a popular destination that, although there were fares, anyone willing to travel could do so for free. Meanwhile England was busy creating the largest empire the world has ever known. And then giving it back to the indigenous people. Argieland has never 'given' anything back. Even now, the United States doesn't like to do anything without English support.
Jul 09th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9. Might be easier to move to the Falklands. Although they'd have to satisfy the authorities, and then the Islanders, that they aren't an argie fifth column.
isolda boba
Jul 09th, 2015 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“After all the main reason that they left Wales was to preserve their Welsh language.”
but my dear isolda boba....it was not only a question about their language.
it was a question of preserving their whole culture.
which is not easy when you have a warmonger neighbour like england.
the nasty, nasty english have been oppressing the celtic countries since the Xe siècle
Did l hear the wind whistle through the shithouse door?
Jul 09th, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, silly girl, it was that idiot paulcedron talking garbage again.
What the uneducated nabo doesn't realise is that DNA has proved that the English have a lot of Celtic blood as well as Germanic & Latin.
Of course ldiotcedron doesn't know much as we all know.
Boludo, cedron.
The Scots went to Canada, the Irish to America and both to Australia. Where did we Welsh Choose. Pata bloody Gonia!
Jul 09th, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Couldn't make it up if you tried.
Oooh the irony: Argentina celebrating the anniversary of the establishment of an implanted European colony in Patagonia. Not only that, 30 years AFTER some murdering criminals got booted off the Falklands by the Royal Navy.
Jul 09th, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did anyone care to invite the Tehuelche? Guess not, not many descendants left after the slaughter by an army of hispanic usurpers.
These bananas are comedy gold.
Dear god, I think i'm going to puke. How anyone cannot see what this manipulative cow is upto beggars belief. She isn't even subtle.
Jul 09th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't give a shit what the Welsh Assembly do in their own buildings, but Westminster is the seat of my Parliament and I object to this bitch and her propaganda being allowed past the door.
So proud my country became home to the Welsh, who were able to live there in peace and become a part of our rich diversity without losing their distinctive culture.
Jul 09th, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Welsh settlers did not set out to conquer, but to share,” Alicia Castro said.
What an example.
@12 paulcedron II
Jul 09th, 2015 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try looking closer to home.
Try asking the Mapuche or Selknap (Oops sorry, they have already been Exterminated) or Qom or a dozen other native S. American peoples, about just staying alive, never mind preserving language and culture, when invaded by Murdering, Creole Conquistador, Planter Bastards.
There are still shit loads of Welsh living in Wales today.
Where have all the Selknap gone, long time passing.
@13 lsolde
Actually “Celtic Blood” is now thought to be something of a myth.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v519/n7543/full/nature14230.html
No genetic trace was found of “Ethnic Celts” as such in the UK, only genetically differentiated subgroups.
What we seem to have had are peoples who shared a common language and culture, but not blood.
Unless of course “actual Celts” arrived in what is now England, spread their language and culture to other parts of the UK from there, but not themselves, and were then lost in the Anglo Saxon invasion.
@17 Enrique Massot
No the Welsh didn’t. But the Creoles did.
They set out to conquer and not to spare (Anybody).
@17
Jul 09th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some fine examples indeed in this story, but curiously none of them mentioned by Ambassadpr Castro
”However, in fact it was Tehuelche meat which saved the Welsh from starvation. Following harsh winter and poor harvests, the Tehuelche found the Welsh half starved, and not only provided meat but shared their knowledge of the game available (guanacos, ostrich, hares) and taught them the techniques required for effective hunting, as well as sharing their technology (especially the bolas)
and their means of cooking – the asado. “
......
”The Welsh were in an ambiguous position. They had not supported the Conquest of the Desert and indeed had unanimously agreed to defend the Tehuelche, on Cacique Sayhueke’s written request. The Welsh leader Lewis Jones tried to intercede on Tehuelche behalf, petitioning Buenos Aires, but
the Welsh were ignored and were obliged to live with the consequences”
http://web.isanet.org/Web/Conferences/FLACSO-ISA%20BuenosAires%202014/Archive/a95de33f-06fa-4de1-89c0-bdd6328e3bfc.pdf
Hey rotting roadkill:
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think that china's checks will still cash? LOL
12 paulcedron II You tried this self same rubbish at http://en.mercopress.com/2015/07/01/wales-and-argentina-celebrate-150th-anniversary-of-migration-to-patagonia #6 “england is the cradle of piracy, slave trade, invasions, lootings and all the calamities you can imagine. wales, on the other hand, not.” As I posted at #12 ”The first apparent historical invasion was committed by Welsh, here's some more facts to temper your Anglophobia. Welsh pirates facts www.google.com.br/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=welsh+pirates+facts&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=PUKUVbXXLMfygAS1hIHIDQ; Welsh slave traders www.museumwales.ac.uk/rhagor/galleries/slavery/; “By the mid-eleventh century, most of Wales had become united under the king of Gwynedd, Gruffudd ap Llywelyn. In 1055, he marched on Hereford and sacked the city..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England–Wales_border
Jul 09th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rather than insult us,
Jul 09th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think this rather embarrasses Argentina,
on one hand showing the impression that they love the welsh, and ignore the British colonial pirates.
yet proving they are using this hogwash to did the disgusting fact that they are abusing , threatening and intimidating the innocent peace-loving people of the Falkland islands,
hypocrites to the last.
@18 Pugol-H,
Jul 09th, 2015 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the Celts or Celtic speakers, if you prefer arrived in Britain, they found a people already there.
l think that those people built Stonehenge & other stoneworks.
l read somewhere that these people's DNA is still present among the British population, they were not killed off by any invaders.
lt used to be taught at school that the Anglo-Saxons killed the Britons or drove them into Wales.
Now l believe the Britons were absorbed by the Saxons & had such an effect upon the Saxon's Germanic language as to begin the development of English as distinct from German.
Fascinating stuff to me, knowing that the descendants of the builders of Stonehenge are most likely still living in the area of the monument.
There was a Roman fortress at York, with l think, 2 Legions based there.
Dad's family comes from Yorkshire, so its possible that we have a Roman soldier in our ancestry!
l love our history.
Peace.
@12 cara de dos ortos podridos
Jul 10th, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the nasty, nasty english have been oppressing the celtic countries since the Xe siècle”
You know nothing! The following have been Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom during the 20th and 21st Centuries
Cambell Bannerman - Scot and Celt
Bonar Law - Scot and Celt
Ramsey Macdonald - Scor and Celt
Tony Blair - Scot
Gordon Brown - Scot and Celt
Lloyd George - Welsh and Celt
If the Celts have been so oppressed how come we have had Celt leaders on some many occasions?
Nabo and boludo.
And if im correct,
Jul 10th, 2015 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did not the Gordon Brown government contain an entirely Scottish cabinet,
the first and only Scottish government to run the UK.
oooppps.
@12
Jul 11th, 2015 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the nasty, nasty english have been oppressing the celtic countries since the Xe siècle”
Yet the speaking of the Celtic languages , Manx, Gaelic and Welsh is not prohibited by the 'English'
You speak some crap-that CT scanner is frying what little brain you have left.
,Well,
Jul 12th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he only had two cells to start with...lol
”Photo exhibition on Welsh settlers in Argentina2
Jul 13th, 2015 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on you Falkland Islanders! Have a photo exhibition of the Falkland Island settlers in Argentina (Mainwaring,Michael, From the Falklands to Patagonia [London:Allison and Busby,1983] Plate 1 The Halliday family at Hill Station, plate 12 A map of South America by Thomas Kitchin (plenty of pictures of the Tehuelche), plate 59 The Rudd family at Cape Fairweather etc etc etc. Not many pictures of Argies though-too busy having siestas in BA.
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