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Cristina Fernandez campaigning hard to ensure the Kirchnerite legacy and 'Argentine independence'
Argentine President Cristina Fernández clearly on the campaign trail ahead of October's national elections, has warned economic and political opposition groups could attempt to force the country reintroduce “neoliberal policies,” dismantling the “inclusive state” built in the last twelve years. And beware because “now we can say that we are really an independent country”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFrom what I read here, it's quite a funny speech. Let's look at the “high points”.
Jul 10th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There have always been, and there will always be, attempts to reduce the state. Some will try to go back to neoliberal policies,” This translates as 'There have always been, and there will always be, attempts to reduce Kirchnerite micro-management and dictatorship. Some will try to go back to intelligence.'
'praising Argentina's re-industrialization process, debt reduction policies and calling to protect what has been achieved in matters of social inclusion and democratization.' Does assembling kit cars count as re-industrialization? Debt reduction policies? Otherwise known as not paying. Social inclusion? That would be same-sex marriage. Not only is it now legal, if she gets in again, she'll probably make it compulsory. Democratization? Votes cost less now.
“What matters is not what media thinks but what history will think. And history is the memory and affection of the humble, of the people, of the ones that continue to remember Peron, Belgrano… that’s what we aim at, to be remembered in that way,” That's interesting. What do we think the humble people trying to cope with 40% inflation will remember? Will they remember that their country attacked and occupied a tiny little country of, at the time, about 1,500 people? Will they remember that they've spent 200 years lying in justification? Will they remember that a proper nation travelled more than 7,000 miles to kick them off? Or that, every year, they celebrate the courage of conscripts that, originally, they didn't want back? Or that they left corpses behind for a political point?
If the Peronists do not retain power a successor political party may prosecute CFK, fat Maximo and their cronies for crimes. And there are many crimes to prosecute including stealing hundreds of millions of dollars, inciting violence via piqueteros and the murder of Nisman. Argentina would indeed benefit if CFK were jailed or executed after her term is over but in Argentina there is no justice and no rule of law.
Jul 10th, 2015 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can one of the idiotic K supporters on this board please tell me what industry has re-industrialized in the last 12 years?
Jul 10th, 2015 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By my count every “industry” is doing worse than it was in the 2000s.
Every single one.
Argentina is in the worst state it has been for 100 years.
Jul 10th, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact, Argentina is now a 'has been '.
Not sure if still 'has beans! !
Maybe Kristina still has some magic beans she can sell to her trusting faithful?
Ilsen - “In fact, Argentina is now a 'has been '.”
Jul 10th, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Educate me please - when was the “ever was” that can now be contrasted with the current “has been” ?
...“Cristina remembered late President and husband Nestor Kirchner while praising Argentina's re-industrialization process, debt reduction policies and calling to protect what has been achieved in matters of social inclusion and democratization.”...
Jul 10th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re-industrialisation: The Chamber that represents small and medium companies, CAME, tells us that during the last 12 years more small businesses have closed than any time since 1983.
Debt reduction: The national foreign debt in 2003 was about U$S100 billion, the present national foreign debt is about U$S420 billion, that is not taking into account the internal debt!!!!!!
Inclusion: There are now about the same number of poor and indigent people in Argentina as there were in 2003!!!!!!
Integration in the global economy: Argentina is integrated only with Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, China and Iran. We are definitely not integrated with the other Mercosur countries and nor the Pacific Alliance countries, EU, USA!!!!
CFK has learned nothing from Greece and her failures on Independence Day . I am sending along part of a recent rant to my gringo and Argentine friends in Buenos Aires . Twenty years before the financial collapse in Argentina the Greeks made “what was thought to be” a brilliant move. They proposed to the then new EEC to allow Greece to join the organization convincing them that this alliance would prevent any future military grab for power. European money flowed like Mataxa into a poor country with an economy based on scant agricultural exports, tourism and shipping (most of that wealth is held off shore by super rich non-domiciled Greeks living in London) In 1981 this same Greek nation took a wide turn to the left and Andreas Papandreou nationalized industries and hit up the EU for lots more cash to establish his voter constituency of 25 % ++ employed by the state. They benefited greatly from this scheme with early retirements, triple pensions and welfare benefits far greater than wealthy European neighbors. Does this sound like a contrast or comparison to Argentina ? Just call it a new form of democracy replacing self centered fear of the military with a delusional monarch who supports a long term political and economic model that just failed in Greece this week !
Jul 10th, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is like an angry parrot squawking and screeching on the podium.
Jul 10th, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well less than 6 months to go with this old haggis.
6 Simon68
Jul 10th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you once again, Simon, for your insightful perspective from inside the real Argentina.
@5
Jul 10th, 2015 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did give an approximate time scale in my post.
It may seem fantastical now, but Argentina was once the seventh richest country in the world.
The UK was still ahead of them then, as it is now. Only now the gap is vast.
Maybe you were being disingenuous?
:-)
If not, consider yourself a little better educated than when you woke this morning.
ROYAL—NAVY
Jul 10th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Artful: Sub Sets Sail This Summer
http://forces.tv/22417343
Artful, which will provide the Royal Navy with its most technologically advanced submarine, is currently preparing to leave the construction yard in Barrow-in-Furness, before joining the Royal Navy fleet around the end of this year
Artful will now join Ambush and Astute, helping to keep Britain safe. The next four boats are already under construction=7
Plus—
an eight-year infrastructure upgrade programme at the yard, costing in excess of £300M, which will prepare the site for investment in a new fleet of [four ]Successor Ballistic Missile submarines and the renewal of Britain’s nuclear deterrent.
Totaling 11 new subs in all……
Plus.
A New Maritime Patrol Aircraft For The UK?
http://forces.tv/22417343
plus
Latest A400M transport aircraft is delivered to the Royal Air Force
http://forces.tv/22417343
HMS Queen Elizabeth comes to life as first engine started
http://forces.tv/22417343
CFK eat ya heart out...
You can see from the photo below the effect that cock-sucking premiers, etc. by TMBOA has on the young women of The Dark Country.
Jul 10th, 2015 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/11730525/Pictures-of-the-day-10-July-2015.html?frame=3370692
I bet she is so pleased. She gets more like the prostitute Evita Peron every day.
Cretina, nice try:
Jul 10th, 2015 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reeeekie writes, “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/cristina-fernandez-comes-out-strongly-in-defense-of-minister-kicillof
“Cristina Fernandez campaigning hard to ensure the Kirchnerite legacy and 'Argentine independence'”
Jul 10th, 2015 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By selling itself out to China-errrr ?
“We have never been this integrated to the world.“
Presumably 'the world' has never included the USA or Europe?
Argentina's world=South America, errrr-OK.
”Cristina remembered late President and husband Nestor Kirchner2
How unexpected.....
“The President then argued the Kirchnerite project has honored those who fought for the country and regained financial independence.”=being in huge debt and selling yourself to China-interesting theory, but I don't get it....
” ruling Victory Front (FpV),”
What victory would that be then?
THE POLICY OF DIGNITY.
Jul 11th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina is wrong when she says that now we can talk about a true independence, actualy it's hightly probable that Argentina never becomes a true independent nation, because part of our territory is still usurped by another country. I know that all those ignorants from outside, who know so little about the causes of our problems, who buy so easily the too partial view that hegemonical press publishes about the situation of the nation, and our sepoys, who will always take the side of adversaries, won't never accept what i say. That's why they will keep on making ignorant lectures, mixing different issues, or dating the figures of little reliable polls, because their true purpose, is to justify their reactionary ideas.
It's evident that all those mediocre people haven't seen yet that even in case that kirchnerism looses the election in october, it's legacy won't be able to be dismantled by anybody, because people have already empowered of all the achievements that workers could get, in fact, even a reactionary like Macri said that if he's elected as president, he's disposed to keep them, which shows clearly that in the context of the actual Argentina, there is not so much social acceptance for the neoliberalism that he represents, that's why reality forces him to say that he's disposed to keep the achievements.
Most politic parties from the opposition say that they are the change that Argentina needs, however when i remember the posture that most those people had, every time that the state tried to recover what was sold during the 90's, or when i remember also what most them said in relation to the conflict that we have with the vultures, it's not necesary to be so smart to realise that actualy the true change that the country needs, started 12 years ago, leaded by kirchnerism, most those rabbles from the opposition, aren't more than part of our pathetic and misserable past, although some people don't accept it.
15 Axle Aargh
Jul 12th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now I've heard everything- Argentina can not have true Independence because of the Falkland Islanders!!
Guffaw!!!!
@ 16 Troy Tempest
Jul 12th, 2015 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Damn, you beat me to it!!
Absolutely priceless that comment by the in-house comedian of La Camping It Up.
PMSL!
15 axel arg
Jul 12th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina never becomes a true independent nation, because part of our territory is still usurped by another country,
For true argies to believe this, including you,
you yourself would have to agree that Bolivia and others will never become truly independent whilst Argentina controls parts of their territories that Argentina stole,
you cant have it both ways,
once a thief always a thief,
BRITON.
Jul 18th, 2015 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sorprised for the ignorant comparison that you made in your comment 18, actualy in this website there are many other ignorants like you, who usually make that kind of mischievous interpretations.
There are no territorial claims by the countries that used to join the viceroalty, and if some day there is any, then it will be necesary to analize seriously whether they are right or not, and find a negotiated solution, if what they claim is still legitimate.
On the other hand, i'll tell you that Bolivia, Uruguay, and Paraguay, decided to separate part from the viceroalty, in order to become into independent nations, then there is nothing we can claim over those territories. However, in the case of the Malvinas, our authorities were forced to leave the place, and since then, we have been deprived of exercising our rights over the islands, except for the 76 days of the invasion of 1982, ordered by the imbecile and criminal junta.
You should be more careful when you make comparisons
19 axle aargh
Jul 19th, 2015 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0it's so funny to hear your lectures, steeped in propaganda and party dogma.
Are you deeply “anal - ising” the scenario and looking for an “opening” to argue further?
“might” “ maybe” difficulties“ ”problems” etc. - hearing no definite statements from you - just excuses and waffle...
Axel - the 'voice' of Argentina!
LOL !!!
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