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Germany willing to take half a million refugees annually over several years
Germany said it could take half a million refugees annually over several years as Greek islands struggled on Tuesday to process a huge backlog of migrants desperate to travel to western Europe. Reflecting deepening concern, the European Union's president warned the EU faced a years-long refugee crisis, while the UN urged countries worldwide to help tackle the problem. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn addition to usual annual intake of 13,000; Australia has just announced that we'll take an additional 12,000 Syrians this year. I've always supported a permanent doubling of our annual intake
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Russia, which has frustrated every possibility of ending this war, isn't taking any I see.
Germany which is currently suffering depopulation and urban contraction in many of its eastern regions could use this influx to some great effect.
I like the idea of taking them from the refugee camps rather than encouraging a system that enriches the people traffickers.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela has offered to take 20,000...sort of like going from the frying pan into the fire, no?
Sep 09th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're seeing the true face of Angela Merkel with this crisis. She's unilaterally ignored EU rules on immigration and refugees, thrown open the German doors and warned of “consequences” for those that choose not to agree to her approach.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She seems to have appointed herself European dictator overnight. I guess she was fed up of the Greeks calling her “that Nazi bitc#” and prefers “mother Merkel” on the lips of all the Syrians.
Juncker made his first “State of the Union” address this morning and was roundly mocked throughout.
As for the UK - it's been the fastest swing against remaining in the EU that I can recall.
Talk about kicking someone when they are down!
Sep 09th, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine finding out the reality of Venezuela and then realising you could have ended up in Germany or Australia. That would be like state sponsored terrorism.
20,000 Syrian refugees would probably double the circulation of USD in Venezuela
Sep 09th, 2015 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the heart of this German decision is Germany's declining birth rate.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 Condorito
Sep 09th, 2015 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly.
Condorito
Sep 09th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a vast simplification. Germany has been dealing with a declining birth rate for several decades so it didn't just suddenly stumble upon the issue..... or this potential solution.
If this is the real reason then Germany would, by now, have tens of millions of former Yugoslavians and Ukrainians already living there.
Sometimes leaders just step up.
Plenty of room here...
Sep 09th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0England has a total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate).
Yet...
Scotland has a total land area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands.
Safe from would be terrorists...they get a good kicking if they try it on here...quite literally....
Does anyone think that this is the Islamic State infiltatrating Europe? A bit like if Argentina wanted to take over the FALKLANDS by emigrating there, not going to happen folks as we need to know who are our friends. Thats why we have Immigration controls so we know the score.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But..@10 No one wants to come. Too much bad weather, too many midges, poor job prospects, scary men in skirts, and then there's the Socialist Nutjobs Party running the place.. If you have any wealth, they will get it.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its reckoned that Britain with presently 8 million born abroad will overtake Germany in population terms so the Germans are trying to import younger labour to swell their population. However the Ossies dont like it.
Perhaps we can have a Palestine State established north of the border, they do play the pipes quite nicely?
Bachelet said Chile is going to take “an important number” of the migrants also.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Accepting 500,000 migrants per year can be exceedingly risky thing to do. Germany isn't paradise and has quite a large right-wing element.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When these migrants, most of whom appear to be young males, certainly not refugees, settle they will want to bring their extended families who may not be quite so welcome.
They ( the immigrants ) can be housed on the 800 islands that Voice has identified but they will have to sponge off the Scottish Budget not the English budget after all hasn't Scotland got huge reserves of oil. Pity the oil price has collapsed Eh Voice. Its a brae brich moonlit nicht the nicht ye ken.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10. Trouble is that England has a population density 1,054.1 per square mile. Scotchland only has 174.1 per square mile. Great! Scotchland can take 880 per square mile. So Scotchland can take 26.7 million. That should leave England free from scum. Even better, Scotchland can take the entire 18 million Syrian population. Although they will have to bear in mind that any attempt to cross is likely to get them shot. And we could kill scotch as well!
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With oil prices dropping many north sea rigs are becoming economically unviable.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have a plan...............
@14
Sep 09th, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are quite right regarding next of kin or families waiting for their menfolk to establish themselves in Germany. The trouble will come in two or three years time. You cannot just open the door and say welcome. You try opening a church or chapel in an Arab country, they DO NOT want Christianity to take hold. I have every sympathy for true Asylum Seekers but these are NOT they are economic migrants or Islamic State Insurgents
After seeing, first hand, the misery, squalor and violence that they live in, German football fans say that they will be putting pressure on Angela Merkel to take in Scottish refugees.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Skip
Sep 09th, 2015 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Leaders do step up but not to the detriment of their country.
Germany has a serious population problem coming down the S-bahn at them. They haven't just stumbled on the immigration solution either. Germany receives more immigrants than almost any country in the world (ex-Yugoslavians being the second largest group after Turks btw).
The Syrian refugee crisis presents the opportunity for Merkel to show leadership in Europe and alleviate a humanitarian crisis; improve the demographic panorama in Germany; and of course assuage German angst around their own historic contributions to refugee crises in Europe.
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I have noticed that some of the English posters on here have so much contempt for Scotland and the Scottish. In fact their tone is very similar to that of some of the offensive Argie posters who have as much contempt for the Falkland Islanders. I was just in Scotland during the Edinburgh festival. Without a doubt one of the most fun, interesting and attractive parts of the UK.
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Sep 09th, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shut it...midges are finished now, it's warm and it's dry....besides humans are waterproof and last time I checked it doesn't rain indoors...
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Money in the bank... prices will eventually go up...
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Keep your racist crap to yourself....these people just want to have a life without persecution, without terrorism, a chance to live with a home and work...
What are you going to kill with...your Zimmerframe....
Shake your walking stick at them...?
A thrashing with your colostomy bag....
Tell you what Gramps...you have a nice afternoon snooze instead...maybe a cup of cocoa too....
@21
Sep 09th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they ( the majority of them are young men ) why are they leaving their womenfolk and children at home to face the bombs and failing states? I would suggest that the majority of immigrants are not asylum seekers but economic migrants when established will send for their wives and children at a later date. It could be that if Germany accepts 800,000 that could swell to 2,4000,000 at the end of the day taking in account of dependants.
@ 20 Condorito
Sep 09th, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no idea if you left the Edinburgh area but let us say (given the text here) that you did not.
All the people you met were out to have a good time and welcome back home all the Scots who left and work in England but are now chancing it on The Fringe before returning to their jobs and families in the rest of the UK. Why do you think it is a fact that for more Scots go south or any other part of the planet than stay 'at home'?
And of course you are from Chile.
Try Glasgow and see the real headbangers who think they own the world and hate the Sassenachs (the English) with a vengeance. If you have done business as a Sassenach for 40 years and had to stand the crap of having to appoint a Scot to a job even thought there were much better Brits who would have been ideal anywhere else in the UK you would then see things somewhat differently, that's for sure.
@11 Golfcronie
Sep 09th, 2015 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Does anyone think this is the Islamic State infiltrating Europe”?
Here's the deal: the Syrian refugees flooding European borders are either Christian's or Shia muslims, including Alawites, the minority to which Bashar al-Assad belongs to. ISIS is a Sunni terrorist organisation, which unlike Al-Quaeda has no ambitions of world domination. They want to establish a Caliphate in a large chunk of what is now Syria and Iraq. What we are witnessing is a result of a sectarian divide that dates back to the death of Mohammed and the conflict over who should succeed him. The refugees are people that ISIS wishes to convert, enslave or simply exterminate. If they were ISIS supporters they would now be in either Syria or Iraq fighting or learning the finer points of beheading techniques.
You suggest in your other posts that many are 'economic refugees/migrants'. I'm not sure which you are referring to, but I would point out that, this year UNHCR predicts that their will be 1.7 million Syrian refugees 'living' in Turkey this year. Turkey is full up, it's easier for young men to travel further away than the Turkish border than for a whole family of dependents and if indeed they are 'economic refugees/migrants well...it's pretty hard to make a living in a war zone which is what much of Syria is, and has been for years.
@20 “Leaders do step up but not to the detriment of their country. ”
Sep 09th, 2015 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Germany is indeed Merkel's first priority, as it should be. Whatever her primary motives are they will be in the interest of her country. However, attempts to force migrants/refugees on countries will never work. Some countries in the EU are refusing to take any.
I like the scheme we are adopting in the UK of taking refugees from the camps to stop the people traffickers exploiting the desperate. It also occurs to me that the weakest and most vulnerable probably cannot make the journey to Europe and this gives them a chance.
“I have noticed that some of the English posters on here have so much contempt for Scotland and the Scottish”
Yes there are some pretty nasty armchair racists and xenophobes posting in the name of England. Ignore them. The majority have no problem with the Scots and adore Scotland including, and maybe especially, our Queen. The woman has class.
@22 golfcronie
Sep 09th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good points.
Why are these young men running away, abandoning their wives and children, instead of picking up weapons and defending them from the lunatics in IS?
What would the world have been like if, in 1940, all the young men in Britain ran off to a 'safer' country instead of standing up and fighting for freedom.
ALL these migrants, or should I say ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, should be told to man the feck up and sent back to sort out their own country.
As far as I'm concerned Europe, and the UK shouldn't let any of them in.
Europe defeat by a simple pair of doors,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as nigel stated today, if you open the doors and let them all in, you have no control,
a watering down of comunities tradition values and way of life will dissapear,
keep the doors closed or suffer the coniquences,
all those young fit fighting men should be home defending their own country,
either way britain should stay well away from the stupid EU and its mad desisions,
the sooner we get out the better,
the only thing standing in our way is a stupid pro anti british goverment.
just opinion.
All the while the Arab countries continue to sit quietly by.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is needed is every country in the world to go in and kill anyone associated with the Isisholes
Agreed,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA first then...
Sorry Elaine, but Scotland has a very high % of anti English racists as is evidenced by their voting preferences and intimidation of anyone who is slightly right wing.. Just read the newspapers its practically every day. IMO the UK will be better off without our Scotch pals if thats what they want.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0United we stand,
Sep 09th, 2015 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0divided we fall
and the stupid EU
will laugh at us all...
It s a difficult decision to accept or not syrian refugees . I support european governments when they refused inmigrants without control due to some of this refugees support ISIS causes. The Arabian wealthy countries as Saudi Arabia & Emirates don t receive anyone. They are very solidary with they brothers. I guess than supports ISIS cause.
Sep 09th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course our Queen CFK talked and said that accept all the refugees which want to go to Arg. Of course they are syrian , not stupid so prefeers to go to Europe. I try to pay a ticket to CFK with an orange jacket and send her to Syria
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Sep 09th, 2015 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a pathetic reply....Intimidation appears to be the key word....
Do you feel intimidated by your lack of national identity...what is your national musical instrument..? Do you have a national dress..?
All I can think of is Morris dancers...;-))))
Are you embarrassed that all the brutal hand to hand fighting was left to the Scots Guards on Tumbledown....
A bheil clann agaibh? Do you realise that Clan means children....All one family...all belong....a national identity beyond the ken of the Saxon....
The Scots have to do all your important inventing and all the fighting that involves bravery....
Soft Southern fanny....
You wouldn't dare open your mouth in Glasgow....last about ten seconds....
In fact, you so lack an identity that you have to use mine....pathetic....
@33 Are you Scottish? You don't talk like any Scot that I know. You do sound like a caricature of a Scot.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30 There is a minority of Scottish Nationalists that make a lot of noise. Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers - they are there to feed insecurities so they sell more newspapers.
The Scots don't want. They had a referendum and the majority want to stay in the Union. We can't allow a minority of extremists to dictate.
Oo er..hit the spot with MacDonald. I thought as much, a Scots Guard piper with a Falklands chip on his shoulder. He has resorted to name calling now. Lets try one - Pussy..
Sep 10th, 2015 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Scots have always voted with their feet, plenty of Scottish asylum seekers around here. We dont need a national dress MacDonald, we dont need to crow about achievements. We dont need to dress up. That just shows that you feel inferior and insecure. If I were named after a greasy burger I would be embarrased too.
Headline: Germany willing to take half a million refugees annually over several years
Sep 10th, 2015 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0It should say:
Germany willing to take half a million refugees ANALLY over several years
Imagine this on a grand scale:
Sep 10th, 2015 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/09/americas/uruguay-syrians/index.html
Fixing Syria is the solution to the Syrian refugee crisis.
@25 Elaine
Sep 10th, 2015 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree that Merkel should act in Germany's best interest (and by offering refuge for these poor Syrians she is doing just that). Re forcing other countries to accept immigrants, I read today that Spain and Poland have now agreed (been forced) to German driven quotas.
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Going back off topic...your assertion that “The majority have no problem with the Scots and adore Scotland” is true of my experience of English attitudes during the time I spent in England, which is so different from the hate and bile directed at the Scots by some here. They are the mirror of the Argies who have complete contempt for Chileans, Falkland Islanders, etc. It's funny they don't realize they are the same. I guess if you are that ugly, looking in the mirror must be tough.
@23 Chris
I am in Spain now. I was in the UK for work so the festival was opportunistic. I have no problem working with the Scots. The significant amount of English working in Edinburgh don't seem to either. Have you been to the Edinburgh festival? I have never seen anything comparable in other parts of the UK.
Why did you have to hire a Scot in Scotland? I have never heard of such “positive discrimination” in the UK.
@30 The Voice
I can't follow your logic at all.
You say that the voting preference in Scotland is evidence of anti-English racism. The SNP won almost every seat in Scotland. In what way is a nationalist vote racist?
You then add to your qualification of anti English racism “...and intimidation of anyone who is slightly right wing”.
Firstly, weren't the nationalists allegedly intimidating the labor organization (not right wing)?
Secondly, since when was “right wing” synonymous with English? Remember Adam Smith? The father of modern free trade.
Condorito, I can understand your confusion. In the last general election and the referendum campaign there was quite a bit of very physical intimidation and very aggressive shouting down of right wingers and English politicians who visited to speak up for the union. Its still going on with almost daily reports of it in our newspapers. And the in your face racism I have experienced, without any provocation whatsoever. In some places to be English just engenders hate. There is religious intolerance and aggression too, Rangers and Celtic football teams in Glasgow, the fights have to be seen to be believed. Glasgow is the drug capital of the UK. In some places away from the cities the Scots are very nice homely people. But, there are the aggressive idiots like Voice that reel around drunk all the time just itching to punch an Englishman. They are a significant minority. It makes you think that we'll be better off without them even without considering the financial strain of supporting them. The Scots are talented people with a rich tradition and history and its a beautiful place but unfortunately the bully boys are running the place right now. And… I personally have many Scottish friends and spend quite a bit of time there walking, climbing, sailing and attending various events. BTW we have some excellent festivals in England too, I attended three this year, all different genres. Edinburgh is heavily sprinked with English artists, mainly from London.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@39
Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not confused. Your post @ 30 just makes no sense.
You said that “intimidation of anyone who is slightly right wing” is evidence of “anti English racism”. That is nonsensical. @39 you have partially corrected that to “shouting down of right wingers AND English politicians”.
However, I still don't believe that the nationalist militants, in their shouting down activities, would have discriminated between English or Scottish pro-union politicians.
From the rest of your post I can conclude that you actually like Scotland and most Scots, you just don't like the SNP, which would make you a unionist, ergo pro Scotland in the union. No?
Condorito, having lived in the provinces which have in the past been poor in contrast to the South of England I can actually understand Scottish resentment of the Westminster Parliament which operates in a totally alien fashion to things in Scotland. Life in these contrasting areas is like chalk and cheese. In the past there has been a fairly widespread scrounging culture. The Labour Party in Scotland was like a Dinosoar, old fashioned out of touch and impotent. To get what they want Scots elected the SNP wiping it out, their is now no opposition whatsoever in their Parliament. Unfortunately anti Englishness exists in spades in some areas of Scotland. Its highlighted in Voices post above and unfortunately manifests itself in an aggressive voluble minority. These people are mainly yobbish Scottish Chavs and you wont find them at the Edinburgh Festival. JK Rowling, who lives in Scotland, has been continuously abused by such people because she is pro union. Personally I have always thought that Scottish Independence is their decisuon and that England would no doubt be financially better off without them. We can do without the Chavs too.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 034
Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a little bit slow today...I was almost embarrassed to write, “beyond the ken of the Saxon”, but there's nothing like a little bit of parody....especially when I see ChrisR using the term Sassenach @23....which died a death at least a hundred years ago...;-)
I'm also aware that according to DNA results 87% of the UK population are not of Saxon decent...
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Take no notice of @39 he is just a racist bigot....he is referring to UKIP's Farage the anti Europe politician..Scotland is pro Europe and so he has little support here and so he was heckled....
Ooopps....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-is-the-cocaine-capital-of-europe--and-use-of-the-drug-peaks-on-a-tuesday-9444107.html
Perhaps, The Voice should explain to us why he still uses my title...this poster should not be taken seriously...a troll of the worst kind....
@41
Sep 10th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice only stated @10 that refugees were welcome in Scotland. There was no anti-English sentiment in that post. You then replied @12 with a very anti Scottish post. Conq continued with his usual ramblings about shooting just about everyone, including Scots. Hence my post @20 where I question the contempt for Scotland by some of the English posters (something I never witnessed in England).
As an outsider, seems to me that any unionist should welcome the SNP. After failing in the referendum, then securing a large win in the elections, it is clear that the majority of Scots are unionists but they want deep change. I think this is as true of the English regions as it is of Scotland. The UK is highly centralised. London receives 20 times the government investment that the north east does. No surprise there is such a discrepancy in productivity. The Scots have the political mechanisms to address the imbalance, the English regions don't, which I think is at the heart of much English resentment. The SNP victory makes rebalancing unavoidable. Once this progresses, nationalism and English resentment will fall back.
The above would explain why you as a Scotophile, with many Scottish friends and making regular trips to Scotland, can simultaneously show such contempt for Scotland.
Condorito.. My Scottish friends share my contempt for the ugly racist face of Scotland so I am not alone. I am off Munro bagging in 3 weeks with a couple of them. Yes, we are too London centric for sure, but London and the South East generates the UKs wealth. You dont kill the golden goose, you try to spread things around a bit which is what our government is trying its hardest to do in the face of much cynicism.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, Chile is a lovely place and I havent climbed in Torres del Paine but I intend to one day.
...and yet do we see any Scottish racists on here...
Sep 10th, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but...
...do we see any English racists on here...
All I said about Scotland is true. In the so called summer biting midges make the Wesrern area a very unpleasant place and this year in particular the weather has been awful. Most years its pretty bad. And, there is a particularly nasty element in Scotland thats racist towards English people. In the past particularly there have been too many happy to live off everyone else on benefits. There are three areas like that in the UK Scotland is one of them. Decent Scots acknowledge all these things. Immigrants do resist being sent there. Nothing racist about any of that. Big Mac will confirm it.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scotland probably made the best decision in its history by voting for the union.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The SNP based its economic forecast on an oil price of $120 a barrel.One year after the vote and it would have on the way to bankruptcy.
The racism in Scotland is aimed at the southern English,they have no problem with the northern English or vice versa.
IIR Yorkshire has a larger population and economy than Scotland.
@43 “The UK is highly centralised. London receives 20 times the government investment that the north east does.” But isn't that true of most countries? Look at Santiago or Buenos Aires or Paris, to name but a few. I hear the same complaint outside of most capital cities.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Elaine
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I agree. In Chile there are some regions in particular that complain about lack of investment. My point about the UK is that one region, Scotland, has more levers to pull than regions of England, which will inevitably result in the latter seeking a more equitable solution.
@49 The rumbling have been there although offers of regional parliaments were rejected by regions offered it. Very wise as all it does is suck government funds into another layer of bureaucracy. Obviously, MP's represent their constituencies and there are local taxes spent locally.
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are efforts and incentives for businesses to set up in the regions but ultimately I think a certain amount of people will be attracted to the 'bright lights' of the capital in any country.
The North East of England has had regular very large injections of our tax money - the Nissan plant. Merseyside has had masses too into the various car plants. Scotland would now collapse without our tax money used to build Royal Navy ships, provide ports and keep the subs afloat, Voiceys area in particular. The Nats have got to become a bit nicer and quell their racist elements. Now he is publishing pictures of submarine movements I am sure he is on the secret squirrel's radar! :-)
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone here, is pulling some's legs,
Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0best get back on track and ignore the train on the tracks [ to much noise ]
Apparently, despite the fact we will not participate in this stupid crises from the EURO nutters,
we are still going to get our part of the bill, says the papers,
the sooner we get out the better for us.
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Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nail on the head....
How cool is York Minister and the dales...
Yorkshire Puddings...plate size...
White Rose forever.....
“The racism in Scotland is aimed at the southern English,they have no problem with the northern English or vice versa.”
Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone hates the rich... not so many of them around North of the border. If they do get rich they move to the South, better weather and culture are often cited as reasons.
In my humble and distant opinion, Germany is making a mistake.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope I´m wrong.
#54
Sep 11th, 2015 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are rich, you probably screwed someone to acquire your “fortune”
You keep quoting “our tax money” as if ALL the money in the Treasury belongs to London and it's environs.
As to ”they move to the south for better weather and Culture ? how do you explain the well-off English moving up to Scotland in droves. Is it possibly that they think life is better up here than in the overpriced, polluted and overcrowded south ?
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Sep 11th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't engage this poor imitation Clyde...He's not the sharpest knife in the draw...
Has delusions of grandeur too....
Hate without reason...
Best left to me to ridicule....
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