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Malvinas Islands' claim: Tierra del Fuego is 'absolutely strategic”

Friday, October 23rd 2015 - 07:26 UTC
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Tierra del Fuego is 'absolutely strategic“ for Argentina's foreign policy because of the Malvinas Islands claim question, integration with Chile and the current process of re-industrialization, according to the country's Deputy foreign minister Eduardo Zuain who this week visited Ushuaia to coordinate actions beginning ”next December” when the elected governor Rosana Bertone takes office. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    ”Argentina's diplomatic efforts to support our sovereign claim over the Malvinas Islands is a question that this government has been advancing worldwide and very successfully, and this province plays a major role in this question“, insisted Zuain.

    Chuckle chuckle

    https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Can any Argentine please list the “successful” items on their Malvinas programme?

    I mean those that are REAL and DEFINATIVE and have REAL effect on the Islands.

    NOT just groups of meaningless words uttered by some to keep CFK happy and shut her up a bit but mean nothing in reality.
    These after all have happened regular for generations and achieve little other than shutting Buenos Aires up a bit and not screeching at their neighbours all the time1

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    “Our search for Lebensraum continues, proclaims nostalgic, lying Argy-Nazi” should be the headline.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Argentina's diplomatic efforts to support our sovereign claim over the Malvinas Islands is a question that this government has been advancing worldwide and very successfully, and this province plays a major role in this question“, insisted Zuain.”

    These muppets are falling victim to their own bullshit.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Dream on, Argentina.
    But if it makes you happy to believe your own fairy tales………then who am l to burst your bubble?

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Sorry, the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, the South Sandwich Islands and Queen Elizabeth Land are British Sovereign Territory, and you lot can get knotted.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CKurze30k

    “”Argentina's diplomatic efforts to support our sovereign claim over the Malvinas Islands is a question that this government has been advancing worldwide...”

    Except in the ICJ, which is the only legal venue that could rule on the sovereignty dispute.

    The only reason not to use the ICJ is that they know their claim is false.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Dream on, huevones!

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Most people wake up from a dream where they get something they wanted and didn't get ,have to accept it was just a dream.

    In one dream I travelled to Mars and climbed Olympus Mons, but daybreak informed me that I was still in England ready to climb onto a tractor.

    Many Argentines awake from their dream and still believe it.

    Anybody heard if that Argy 'Calling the Falklands ' radio programme is still on air?

    And Terra Del Fuego's provincial rule over the Falklands and South Georgia hasn't seemed to have evicted the Islanders or HM Armed Forces, and as far as I am aware, Islanders are still driving on the left side of the road, administering themselves in English and running their own government completely oblivious to any dictats from 'the land of fire.' (so called because of the Argentine farts being lit, as they try to blow them eastwards).

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Its the whole 'integration' with Chile that sounds most ominous. A bit like the Junta when they were going to 'integrate' Chile into Argentina.

    Of course, like their dreams of owning the Falklands, their dream of an Argentine empire that stretches from Atlantic to Pacific, and the Southern most tip of South America to Central America, is all bulls!t.

    And they'll no more be 'integrating' Chile into Argentina than they will the Falklands. And if they try the Chileans are just waiting to give them a bloody nose and humiliate them again...like the UK did in 1982.

    You have to wonder, sometimes, whether Argentina's desperate attempts to obtain military hardware is not so much a threat to the Falkland Islands, but to their immediate neighbours.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Yes, absolutely. And therefore, “Aeropuerto Internacional Islas Malvinas”
    should be immediately renamed “International Airport Falkland Islands.”

    Philippe

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PepperJohn

    Bravo for Zuain, great for him and for Argentina. The claim is unrelinqueshed and guess what? There is not need, no willingness to engage in any military act. It is a matter of dialogue. No matter what the UK says, Res 2065 https://factsandfictionsofmalvinasislands.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/folleto-malvinas-ficciones-y-hechos/

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    Oh God it's John Pepper, he's found Mercopress, first was Huff Post, then Fiction and Fiction Malvinas. Another Potty boy clone, I expect the 'Operation Quito' and JTRIG to surface in a few days, then you will never hear the last of it.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • marasilver

    The UN has always made it clear that there are only two parties to the dispute over sovereignty: Argentina and the UK. https://factsandfictionsofmalvinasislands.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/fact-n-8-there-have-never-been-three-parties-to-the-sovereignty-dispute/

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It's OK for this gobshite to spout his nonsense but the people of Ushuaia still can't have a proper shit.

    It's the third year and still the sewers aren't repaired.

    Still, he's an argie politician and can't be expected to know what is really happening to the country he helps “rule”.

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    re #11

    Or rather, Falkland Islands International Airport.

    Philippe

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #12
    It is a matter of dialogue. No, it's a matter of monologue by Argentina.
    They have refused to talk ....last one with Tinman...who did a runner when the islanders representatives were present...so...up yours !

    Oct 23rd, 2015 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @12 PepperJohn

    Instead of quoting UNGA Resolution 2065 you should actually try READING it.

    Nowhere in the whole resolution does it state that the UK has to negotiate anything with Argentina. All it does is recognise a dispute and states that the UK and Argentina should settle this dispute peacefully, taking into account the interests/wishes of the population. Even your oft quote, but dead in the water resolution, doesn't support Argentina's position.

    But Argentina didn't want to settle this dispute peacefully, and on 2 April 1982 Argentina tore up Resolution 2065 and illegally invade the sovereign territories of the UK, namely the Falkland Islands and South Georgia.

    That act alone makes Resolution 2065 irrelevant, and the UK doesn't have to abide by it in anyway whatsoever. Not that we ever had to, being that UNGA resolutions are advisory not compulsory.

    Argentina, however, ignored a legal and compulsory UNSC Resolution 502, to remove your illegal occupation force from the sovereign British territories of the Falkland Islands and South Georgia.

    You refused. So the British invoked Article 51 of the UN Charter, the right to self defence, and kicked Argentina's sorry arses off our territory.

    And because of Argentina, nearly 1,000 people lost their lives. ALL Argnetina's FAULT.

    As for your link to your fake, and made up history, it's hilarious, and contradictory. The fact that you can't see it is also amusing. A bit like in 1984 when the people where told 'war is peace', 'love is hate' and so on and so forth, and if any of them began to question it they were arrested for 'thought' crimes.

    Is that what you're afraid of? Being dragged away by your La Campora pay masters for not toeing the 'party line'. Because it's the only way I can assume that you post such easily disproved drivel.

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @12
    “It is a matter of dialogue. No matter what the UK says”

    Some dialogue, if it doesn't matter what the UK says. In reality however the only thing that matters is what the Falkland Islanders say because it is their country. As Clyde pointed out, Timerman demanded negotiations, came to London and then refused to show up for the negotiations and then went home and demanded negotiations again. So clearly you don't really WANT negotiations, you merely want to DEMAND negotiations ad infinitum.

    And if you are La Campora, do you want your boat back?

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @12 PepperJohn

    Are you aware that the Rudas family are known as liars and believers in myths and fairy stories?

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @12 PepperJohn
    I bet you like Argentina have NEVER read 2065.

    But, as like Argentina, you keep quoting 2065-this is a question which only one Argentine on these posts has ever answered, so let's see if you can manage it?

    I don't think you can but I hope you prove me wrong.

    Res0lution 2065 mentions that the resolution must take regard of the 'Interests of the Population of the Falkland Islands, therefore quite clearly NOT the interests of Argentina, or the UK.

    So from the Argentine's point of view, what are the 'Interests of the Falkland Islanders '?

    I would be interested in your comments.

    I will then ask a member of 'The Population' what THEY regard their interests to be .

    That is fair, is it not?

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    which facilitates sovereign development and integration with Chile so we can have access to the Pacific for our regional exports

    is this not a hint,
    Chile is still on the agenda.

    Oct 24th, 2015 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    @Pete, don't hold your breath for any thing remotely insightful from Pepperjohn, he knows very little about the Falklands Issue and just repeats the same couple of sentences, even Botty Boi looks educated against Pepperjohn. I have come across him on 'Huffington Post' and 'Malvinas Fiction and more fiction', he is just a troll, a poorly deluded and misguided Malvanista with nothing to add to the conversation.

    Oct 26th, 2015 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @22 Buzzsaw.

    Don't worry mate, I'm not expecting any answer, because Malvanistas have a white flag as an integral part of their brain.

    It merely continues to expose the great 2065 myth.

    Oct 26th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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