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Russian sloops with Falklands/Malvinas names incorporated to Argentine Navy
Four Russian built sloops with polar capacity were delivered in Buenos Aires this weekend and incorporated to the Argentine Navy, all of them with names related to the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. The vessels were formally received during a ceremony headed by Defense minister Agustín Rossi and the navy chief Admiral Gastón Fernando Erice. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWeird!
Dec 07th, 2015 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't think many countries name ships after geographical features found in another country.
#1 and they used weird, foreign names instead of the proper English ones.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Main tasks - Pulling and salvage of sunken vessels and or submarines”
Dec 07th, 2015 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well at least they are thinking ahead, although i'm not sure they'll be quite powerful enough to tow a sunken vessel
Why not name the new ships:
Dec 07th, 2015 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Belgrano
Goose Green
Mount Tumbledown
Surrender
How about naming it the “Sloop John B” which sailed out of Nassau in the Bahamas.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I remember the words they had some riotous times and sore heads.
Seems apt. What else could they use them for
”Pulling and salvage of sunken vessels and or submarines”
Dec 07th, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plenty of work for these little boats dealing with the scrap that makes up the Argentinian Navy then? But not big enough to deal with the roll over destroyer though :-( At least its a start.
These ships are soviet-era tugboats, built in Poland in the 1980s by the by. To call them “sloops” (light warships in navy terms) is being a tad generous.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would call them Oops, there goes another one, agree they are tugboats for all intents and purposes
Dec 07th, 2015 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 05 Clyde15 (#)
Dec 07th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Sloop John B”, great song by the Beach Boys but prefer the Mitchell Johnson Lyrics:
He bowls to the left...
He bowls to the rightttttttt
That Mitchell Johnson
His bowling is shite!
I mentioned this last week,
Dec 07th, 2015 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nice little boats, rafts , rowing boats,
perhaps one day they will be able to afford a real ship,
at least one that don't sink...
The first mates name was Carta
Dec 07th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By God Sir what a farter
When the ship wouldn't go
And the wind wouldn't blow
They got Carta the Farta to starta.
#9
Dec 07th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My version pre-dates yours by a few years. I first heard it when I went to a concert by the Weavers in 1958 and then the Kingston Trio recorded it when it became a hit about a year later..
@ 11 Redpoll
Dec 07th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More like:
The boy stood on the burning deck
His pocket full of crackers
A spark came down and set them off
And blew off both his knackers
Except that being abject cowards, the argies don't have any, so they are knackered anyway. :o)
Have they just quadrupled their sea going ships?
It seems that they are definitely 'militarising the South Atlantic'!
This is too easy to disparage.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has anyone reviewed their transit logs for performance / maintenance issues?
30 year old soviet era polish built boats?
What are the weapons systems? Advanced tow cables? Tactical grapples?
Did rottingroadkillian officers / crew receive any training on them?
Were they delivered with fuel and spares?
Who got the enrichment on the other end?
Was the final price.adjusted for the recent decline in.scrap iron prices - 70%+.
Bahia Agradable actually translates as Pleasant Bay, not Bluff Cove, presumably referencing Port Pleasant, which is where the action usually referred to as Bluff Cove actually happened.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that one of the vessels is named with reference to an Argentine Air Force success of the 1982 war - of course, they had no Naval success to name it for.
They should at least follow a format for a class of ship
Dec 07th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They should be
ARA Defeat
ARA Despair
ARA Delusion
ARA Doomed
@16 Idlehands
Dec 07th, 2015 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or
ARA Sinking
ARA Sank
ARA Surrender
ARA Still in dry dock after 13 years
Last one's a bit of a mouthful but no more so than the fantasy names that they've called these ships.
Can these little boats cope with big waves? How about Typhoons? Argieland has no hope except for surrender.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine navy must have realised that a Spearfish torpedo or Harpoon missile is a rather expensive piece of kit.
Dec 07th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The new tactic is to buy ships not worth a sophisticated weapon to sink.
Massive fail.4.5” shell,30mm,20mm,7.62mm.
Also a Sea Skewer is a relatively cheap option.
Ugly ships with thieves' names!
Dec 07th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
Can't think of a navy that has a glorified tug boat as the Fleet Flag ship!
Dec 07th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh wait Argentina.
When I say Flag ship the flag is not a battle ensign or a blue and white one with a yellow stain,no it's all white.
the main tasks of the sloops will be, Search and Rescue
Dec 07th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so if one gets lost, the others will search for it, then try to rescue it.
I bet some of the argy sailors were embarrassed to say the least,
considering they are smaller than the toilets on the Elizabeth...lol
@13 Chronic
Dec 07th, 2015 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fairness, Polish shipyards do produce quality ships now that they've modernised and aren't a very reluctant client state of the Soviet Union any more.
No, wait, they're 30 years old, so they would have been built by workers on the as-long-as-you-pretend-to-pay-me-I'll-pretend-to-work model. Should be “interesting” if the South Atlantic takes offence to them.
Reckon the RAF might want to consider posting a couple more bright yellow helicopters to Mount Pleasant...
ARA Islas Malvina's? You'd have thought they'd have given that one up following the humiliating capture and renaming of the 1982 one. ARA Bahia del Tigre 2 perhaps?
Dec 07th, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Russian sloops with Falklands/Malvinas names incorporated to Argentine Navy”
Dec 07th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who would have thought that an international humiliation could trap a country in the 1980's?
Now they are doing it to their own armed forces!!
Move with the times FFS!!!
If they are looking for appropriate names for the ships then why not call them:-
ARA run away bravely
ARA Just got butt f**ked by the Royal Navy
ARA Sank in home port
ARA Couldn't move 'cos KFC nicked all the money for my spare parts ( a bit long I know )
With these, and those canoes we saw on Malvinas day, Argentina will be invincible! LOL! The Royal Navy are quaking ..
Dec 07th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0great posts here!
Dec 08th, 2015 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank YOU ALL!
xx
“They will be replacing old ships with over sixty years in service, and above all this is significant for what it means to the Navy's spirit”
Dec 08th, 2015 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the spirits of the crew will certainly' rise' if they take on a T45 or Astute submarine.
Bet the Argentine sailors were ecstatic about theses 'sloops' in the same way the Argentine pilots were recently ecstatic about the idea of flying Kfirs with no weaponry with radar sets in a select few.
“logistics support to Argentina's Antarctic bases, ”
Supplying their bases with food would certainly be an improvement.
In Argentina “ ... food would certainly be an improvement”
Dec 08th, 2015 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has just occurred to me that Argentine military circles have spent the best part of the last decade talking about their future “Malvinas Class” ships . First they were going to be a series of OPVs built jointly with Chile, Argentina was supposed to buy 5 of them, but it didn't happen. Then they were going to get 5 missile launching gunboats from China, alongside jets for the airforce and other bits and pieces... but it didn't happen. The plans would frequently show up, with different ship models and potential providers changing as time went on, to be quietly shelved each time and pushed back to later. At least now we're settled on what the dreaded “Malvinas Class” actually are... 30 year old tugboats. Looks like the Armada's revival will have to wait a bit longer.
Dec 08th, 2015 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tbf the tugs will be quite handy when the FIG hire an aircraft carrier to annexe Argentina well with all the money you need a hobby and a challenge
Dec 08th, 2015 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Some time has gone by since the Navy last incorporated new units”
Dec 08th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the Argentine definition of' new'.
I hear they have been trying to buy HMS Victory off the UK to provide another 'brand new' naval asset.
At least they may have the most powerful tug boats in south America...lol
Dec 08th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe they have a cunning plan worthy of Baldrick. They could sneak their tugs up to West Falklands, attach towlines and pull it back to Argentina.
Dec 08th, 2015 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have as much chance of succeeding with this than by any other method
I wonder how these 'tugs' are going to provide logistic support to Argentina's antarctic base when they are not designed to be sailed on the open sea for days at a time, have no icebreaking facilities, and are quite frankly small vessels. How much 'supplies' could they realistically carry?
Dec 09th, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has contracted the service of Russian icebreakers and heavy duty helicopters
Dec 09th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Russia will sell them the mi2-p if they can find one
Or the The Mil Mi-8
who knows.
They will probably get abandoned at the first sign of bad weather. Just like the recent fiasco with the the Kirchner's fat brat and his yacht. Perhaps FI could move into a profitable salvage business.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Query???????
Dec 10th, 2015 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if Britain invaded Argentina and forcibly made it a colony,
would the UN and others recognise it as [ de facto ]
mmmmmmm
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