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Falklands' says it's time Corbyn accepted a briefing on the Islands to understand politics and geography

Thursday, January 21st 2016 - 01:38 UTC
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The Falklands Islands elected government said it was time Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn took up the offer of a proper briefing on the Falklands which might help him understand the Islands politics and geography. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    Mr Corbyn said there “has to be a discussion about how we can bring about some reasonable accommodation with Argentina”.
    He went on: “It seems to me ridiculous that in the 21st Century we could get into some enormous conflict with Argentina about the islands just off it”

    Well said Mr Corbyn.

    P.S. Who is Mike Summers?

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chuch

    Mucus has a perpetual head cold that fogs his judgment. Corbyn is just crazy (hence the name “The Looney Left”). The Brits are never going to accept a negotiated settlement without the Islanders consent. It really is very simple, now off you go Mucus, I suggest nasal irrigation and a heavy dose of codeine to help you sleep, please don’t overdo it, but no one will care if you do, nighty night.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    A substantial conflict would occur, if Argentina tried to steal that land. Why would a conflict resulting from thievery be “ridiculous”?

    If Argentina tried to crush another people's human rights, that would result in a substantial conflict too. Why would a conflict resulting from tyranny be “ridiculous”?

    I don't know what this guy's problem is. He just seems like a fork-tongued ignoramus who doesn't even know he is an agent for the darker side of humanity.

    He uses twisted arguments to make the opposite of decency seem like the dark path.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • R. Ben Madison

    @#1

    > Well said Mr Corbyn.

    Notice how it is Argentine nationalists who think Corbyn is doing a great job?

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @1 Marquitos Alejandrito

    Why doesn't Argentina take its claim to the International Court of Justice? Because the ICJ will not entertain fairy stories, myths, lies and mistaken interpretations of historical events!

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Jeremy shredded by his own side.

    https://ambivalentleftie.wordpress.com/2016/01/20/on-double-standards/

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Dream on, Marcos.
    lts all you've got left.
    You lost in 1982-get over it.
    You never have had any rights in the Falklands anyway.
    Poor Marcos.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Who is Corbyn? The left-wing unelectable leader of the fast dissolving Labour Party. Fascinating that the Labour Party itself has yet again slapped down its own leader and reinforced that it fully supports the self-determination of the Falkland islanders. Corbyn should stop getting his history lessons from his wife.

    Now watch Corbyn get ..... shredded :-)

    https://youtu.be/0zNUwFvODtE

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sceptic64

    #6: Good article there. This is the salient point:

    ”One of the most pernicious aspects of much of the hard left’s foreign policy is that it lays into the UK’s cynical or pragmatic compromises (sometimes necessary, sometimes not) not to call for a policy based on consistent defence of human rights or self-determination or the rule of law, but simply a policy based on the assumption that the West is always wrong. ”

    In fact, it is more selective than that and can usually be defined as

    'the assumption that the UK or USA is always wrong'

    Because it decries (in particular) the fact that the Falklands and Gibraltar are the result of British imperialism; but ignores the fact that (for example) Argentina and Ceuta are the result of Spanish imperialism.

    The result is a wrong-headed approach that results in the hard left advocating neo-colonialism and modern-day imperialism rather than defending universal human rights, or the values outlined in the UN Charter.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    3# bushpilot “I don't know what this guy's problem is. He just seems like a fork-tongued ignoramus who doesn't even know he is an agent for the darker side of humanity. ”

    Precisely, all of his ilk are hypocrites. He strikes me as the type of person who will believe the last person he spoke to on any issue.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The Falklands does a piss poor job with lobbying.

    They really should get their act together.

    Its not expensive and a small 2-3 person office in DC London, Brussels (maybe) would solve a lot of these issues.
    If they can't afford that they could hire a PR firm or law firm to do it for them.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 11 yankeeboy
    “The Falklands does a piss poor job with lobbying.”

    You mean like Trump and his new 'lady friend', is that the sort of 'exposure' the islands should have?

    They went to the US last year and it seemed to work out reasonably well from my recollection. They are not trying to get elected, just keeping people on their side will be fine.

    Seems to me since TMBOA got dumped the argie trolls have all been sacked, apart from Mucus, No Vestige of a brain and of course TTT.

    I really hope Trump gets in, we will have some real fun then. Back-peddling anybody?

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    11
    They do have a support association....
    If you are concerned enough you can become an overseas member for only £25.00 per annum....
    http://fiassociation.com/

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    12. Trump has run a remarkable campaign so far. He'd be better than Obama and Hillary.
    I still think Hillary will be perp walked soon.
    The Dems are very nervous about it.

    Lobbying is essential to keep in front of an issue. Most every issue the Falkanders have is from people that don't understand the history or the people.
    Most people in the world don't even know where it is and fewer care.

    With the backing of the USA Congress and Senate there's little Argentina could ever do.
    It would be worth the time and effort.

    They have enough $ now to keep it up full time.

    13. Do you belong?

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    YB does anyone in America seriously think that Trump could be an effective President? To outsiders it seems ludicrous.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Mr Corbyn said there “has to be a discussion about how we can bring about some reasonable accommodation with Argentina”.
    He went on: “It seems to me ridiculous that in the 21st Century we could get into some enormous conflict with Argentina about handing the mainland back to the Falkland islanders.
    Well said Mr Corbyn.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    15. I guess that depends on what your definition of “effective” is.
    Most media outlets outside of the USA are liberal rags and would lambast and deride any Republican candidate or Prez.
    Most people outside of the USA thought Odumbo was going to be and maybe still is an effective Prez.
    Most people outside of the USA want us to be weak and play well with others.
    Most people outside of the USA have can't understand us and are envious of our position,
    So the answer to that question is it depends and frankly people in the USA don't care what others think because they're usually wrong.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Sounds like YB knows Trump wont make it because Trump is clearly an embarrassment. Trump is the Democrats best assett.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Just heard on TV Cameron may now not give us a referendum on the EU until the end of 2017,
    if he cant get a deal, he is in no hurry,

    [comment]
    I think because of the immigration crises and the collapse of the EU, [so some say]
    or without the direct permission of his EU masters,
    after all if he has it now, he may well lose, so he may well wait to see if the EU gets better.

    he may yet cancel the ref altogether, all for our very own good and safely.

    we await and see.

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Argentina Revisited – One Month on. Towards a Neoliberal “Democratic Dictatorship”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/argentina-revisited-one-month-on-towards-a-neoliberal-democratic-dictatorship/5502615

    Oh dear......

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @18 Don't underestimate Trump, there are a lot of bigoted wackos in the USA.

    @20 I don't like Macri already bending over so much on Davos (who knows what kind of pacts with the devil he is making there) but that article is absolutely crazy. “Election coup” WTF?

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @11
    The FALKLANDERS do not have to lobby hard, all they need to do is say we have made our decision and that's the end of it. You Americans seem to think you have to go around reiterating the same old rheteric day after day. British diplomacy is completely different to yours.

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    @17 “So the answer to that question is it depends and frankly people in the USA don't care what others think because they're usually wrong.”

    I think you need to restructure your English to make it less ambiguous. Unless of course you mean that people in the USA are usually wrong (which would be about right). Perhaps you meant “People in the USA don't care what others think because those others are usually wrong”?

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1. Corbyn hasn't said anything intelligent for 66 years. He started with “Mmmmmmm”. That's about as far as he's got.
    @11. It's not the British way. You might want to note that prior to 2011, the Falkland Islands said and did virtually nothing. The Falklands has an office in London, thanks. What point would there be in an office in DC? We quite liked Reagan. Especially after he offered the loan of the USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) in the event that HMS Hermes or Invincible were damaged or destroyed. Bush Snr, Clinton, Bush Jnr and Obama not so much. Although Clinton did try.
    @17. Tell us about Fleet Admiral Ernest King. The Royal Navy tried to persuade King that coastal blackouts and convoys were good ideas. Being an Anglophobe, King ignored these suggestions. Ensuring that merchant vessels were backlit and vessels proceeded, and were sunk, individually. As a result, the United States lost two million tons of merchant shipping in January and February 1942 alone. It might be said that, all on his own, King was responsible for the loss of, say, four million tons. And all those lives. And the Royal Navy, with two YEARS of experience, was wrong, was it?
    @19. We can read the news you know!

    Let's try the article.
    Macri reckons he wants to show argieland can be a “predictable and trustworthy country”. Indeed. British armed forces require regular combat to ensure the highest state of ability. Our war plans are based on argieland's predictability and we trust you'll do what we hope for. Perhaps we can “get” thousands next time if we hit the invaders at sea. We've got those missiles now that we regularly test. Leave the corpses to go down or float away. Everything from killer whales down to shrimp need to eat. Munch, munch.

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnCFI

    @1 And who is Marcos Alejandro, oh yes,

    'Mike Bingham' a disaffected BRIT who is pretending to be an Argentine, He also pretends to be a Dr and an expert in Penguins, but in reality he is just a nasty little gobshite..

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    “predictable and trustworthy country”.
    they couldn't be “predictable and trustworthy in a hundred years,

    I don't think Argentina will change that much and macri will in my opinion just bide his time and look for a back way to the sovereignty question,

    but kicking this into the long grass may suit some, but not others,
    this question sooner or later must be settled once and for all,

    who knows what the future entails, all im saying is Britain should make sure that no amount of deals or help in any way, should be mistuned or interpreted by Argentina as a way to get its hands on the Falkland's.

    then again I could have totally misunderstood macri's intentions and got it wrong.
    mmm

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • R. Ben Madison

    “It seems to me ridiculous that in the 21st Century we could get into some enormous conflict with Argentina about the islands just off it”

    Corbyn is (unintentionally) right -- it is ridiculous that in the 21st century a country like Argentina would still be pursuing 19th century claims against a democratic state with an elected government that does not wish to be subjected to Argentine colonialism against its will.

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    But will Argentina ever change,
    will she ever come out of the dark ages.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    The Argentina will return the land it stole from Paraguay within the next 25 years.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Hepatia
    will be taken back to the asylum for he next 24 years 11 months and let out just in time for his next prediction [ in 25 years time ]
    lolol

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @31 Briton,
    Yours is the best reply to that idiot Hip, er Hop, er Hepatia yet!
    Keep it up.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    @29 Hepatience of a saint... bollocks! You need a new clock, watch or timescale. A visit to a decent shrink might help too.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    LOL.

    Jan 24th, 2016 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @31
    Nice one Briton.

    @29

    You're a robot, right?

    Jan 26th, 2016 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @35 Pete Bog,
    l think that “Hepatia”is more than one persona.
    The 25 year rubbish may just be automatic(a robot), but occasionally he/she/it breaks forth in all its anti-British vitriolic fury.
    Most of these malvinistas are just fools, but l consider that our amigo/a, Hep-baby to be far more dangerous.
    Still a frustrated idiot, though. lol!

    Jan 26th, 2016 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    True..

    Jan 27th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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