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“Falklands remains well protected” says MoD brushing aside London media claims

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The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (MoD) has rubbished claims that the Falkland Islands have been left without protection, due to the absence of a British warship (frigate or destroyer) permanently based in the south Atlantic. The MoD defended itself following reports that the Falkland Islands were “without the protection of a British frigate or destroyer for the first time since the conflict in 1982”. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    Shhh ..... where's that sub?

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Or subs.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Loon

    “It's behind you” :-D

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    The only problem I see is that a Spearfish torpedo costs far more than a Russia Tug Boat.

    Deadly but overkill.

    Nothing to worry about.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Macri has announced that he has a cunning plan to take the islands while the RN surface ships are away, but indicated that so long as Sarah and Charlotte-Anne at the Stanley Indoor Shooting Club still have their calibre .177 air rifles, the plan will be shelved.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Won't be long till the Typhoons get the meteor missile.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Yep - My first thought too, - Submarine(s).

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NFLD

    @5 Marti
    Okay, that was funny.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @6

    And Storm Shadow.

    Sea Ceptor replaces Sea Wolf starting about now.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Poor old Independent! Not content with making an arse of themselves- along with most other British National Daylies who all fell hook - line and sinker for the Argentine fantasy about the UN ands seabed shelf sovereignty etc last week - now they come up with “no standing Frigate/Destroyer in the Falklands”
    - ummm - thickos in Independent - there has NOT been a standing continual frigate/destroyer patrol around the Islands - for at least 15 years!!
    We have a small armed patrol vessel here all the time - and routine visits by a larger surface warship about twice a year for quite a few years now!
    Plus the sub-surface visits we -and Arg - do not know about!

    Just goes to show- Most of the UK Press are as stupid as the Argentine Press when it comes to “storytelling”!

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    If the islands were undefended , unarmed

    then Argentina would have invaded by now,

    they have a habit of attacking unarmed defenceless people,

    still,
    they can always call our bluff,
    one day ??

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    British taxpayers are getting tired of paying taxes to keep up lazy people living 13000 km away from home.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Argentine taxpayers (both of them) are growing weary of subsidising the slackards living in Ushuaia.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Marcos #12 Yes Marcos, we are well and truly tired of you, sod off back to Argentina. :-)ll

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    12 Marcos Alejandro
    It costs Argentina more than the UK in their conflict according to Carlos Escudé. He warned: “If Argentina had power, I would not be doing these proposals,” but reasoned that “pursue policies of power without power is counterproductive” because “leads to losing more than you earn systematically”
    “La reivindicación argentina de Malvinas solo sirve para comprar el voto de ciudadanos poco educados”
    http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados
    Falklands War Cost-Benefit Analysis
    The price of War
    ”Although the Falklands War had a very noticeable short-term impact on defence expenditure, the impact was not long-lasting. Notwithstanding the first few years after the conflict, when South Atlantic expenditure was greatly consumed by the construction of RAF Mount Pleasant (operational from 1986), the amount spent wasn't overly significant. In 1986-7, it was only 2.23% of total defence expenditure, and by 1989-90, a mere 0.33%. At their height (1982-3), the war's effects represented only 6.76% of total defence expenditure.”
    http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados

    Seems like money well spent, which is miniscule and in any event and would be spent else where. In addition, it is a great area for training. What better way could the money be used other than to assist the application of the UN Charter.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    So much resentful comments, some of them outright ridiculous, even if you left the islands undefended at all, Argentina, won´t invade again.
    The overwhelming majority is against any war, anywhere in the world, it is unimaginable for our culture to invade other country now.

    Of course, every thief believes that everyone is a thief, the english are natural raiders, invaders and murderers, they would invade if the chance arose so...

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #16
    “Argentina, won´t invade again.”

    The rhetoric would indicate otherwise.
    The Argentine army chief of staff underlined that the “Malvinas cause remains a permanent and unwavering” goal for Argentina.

    You invaded in 1982. We would be remiss to assume that you would not invade. again if conditions were in your favour.
    The bottom line is that we have NO reason to trust you.

    In another of your posts you seem to think that a continental shelf gives you the right to sovereignty to all the S.Atlantic and Antarctica,

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    “Argentina won't invade again”.
    -because they cannot.
    lf they could, they would.
    Lukeyboy, we won't invade you.
    We don't want the responsibility of your trainwreck of a country.
    Mind you, it would be a good country without the Argentines in it.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Evil Colonialist Pirate

    That's rich coming from Emily Thornberry given that her party would get rid of more armed forces than before.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    The Falklands may be well protected. But warships are also needed in Falkland waters. Elementary, my dear Watson,

    Philippe

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    We do have subs around.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @21 “We do have subs around.”

    Also 1200 or so military personnel. A few shiny Typhoons.

    Half a a million angry sheep armed to the dags.

    And 200 chilenos with slingshots and palta-pits-- enough to hold off the argie FFAA for weeks.

    But what really keeps the argentos from packing their galoshes is those two young ladies in Stanley with the .177 air rifles.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha .

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    You are already doomed kelpers, sooner than later we will open a Unidad Básica on any of your towns, soon, some fat mulato, bad mannered, with a cuban cigar always resting in his lips, will indoctrinate you kelpers in the ways of Peronism.
    And then, in a couple of years, you´ll be just another latin american shanty town, ripe for the taking.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Sure, Think.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Whaterever……think(with a small “t”).

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @12
    “British taxpayers are getting tired of paying taxes to keep up lazy people living 13000 km away from home.”

    Correct, we British taxpayers don't want aid money sent to Argentina. It would be better spent on a deep water port in the Falklands.

    @16
    “they would invade if the chance arose so...”

    We could do so now-your country is being protected by Tucano turbo prop aircraft.

    However, as Isolde says we would not want your train wreck of a country, so you can carry on taking your siestas without any disturbance.

    We will ensure your imperialist aggression never gets the Falklands again.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    However, as Isolde says we would not want your train wreck of a country,

    Why spend billions repairing Argentina's failed system,
    When you can spend millions on the Falkland's at half the price, and double the benefit.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    Pride is a capital sin, last I read, and for many good reasons. Pride has been the angle stone of english culture, thankfully, that makes them blind.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    Blind! GCHQ knows when Macri takes a shit.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    LukeDig is a nitwit, or maybe a half-wit.
    Not to be taken seriously.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #31
    Obviously Bras. dimwitted cousin

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @29
    “Pride is a capital sin, last I read”

    But we Brits don't celebrate invading somewhere that we got kicked out from like Argentina. You have to be screwy to have pride in invading people who didn't want you there.

    Argentines are full of Latino macho pride.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @33 “Argentines are full of Latino macho pride.”

    It's not so much pride as arrogance.

    And endless envy over not having been born and raised British.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    Well, we do have some pride, the pride of being clean. The british empire killed more people than the nazis just in India. We do not have such stains, and, unlike other countries around the globe, we judged the military dictators and sent them to prison...
    Instead of being proud of manslaughter like you, or your friends the chileans.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Argentine clean? That is truly funny. Were we not just discussing the Dirty War? You know, Argentina, Dirty War, yes?

    Argentina's record is absolutely filthy. El país más sucio del continente. And baseless crowing atop a dung-heap today doesn't make it any cleaner.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The british empire
    The british empire
    The british empire
    The british empire
    The british empire

    We all know about the British

    now what about this potential Argentine Empire you dadoes are trying to create on the backs of the innocent. people.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @35 “.... or your friends the chileans....”

    Let's remember that Argentina not only recently invaded the Falklands and other British territories, but in very recent history was planning and preparing to invade and seize Chilean territory. Twice. Sound familiar? Aggressive, expansionist Argentina?

    Argentine “clean” ? My arse.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Paraguay will reclaim Argentina within 25 years.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @40 Marti Llazo,
    l think that Hepatia is a pre-programmed robot.
    Couldn't be bothered in answering it anymore.
    Sometimes it bursts forth with ridiculous nonsense.
    Thats probably when a human(?) from the Argentine Ministry for Dis-information takes over.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    The british empire was evil selling drug at the point of a battleship anyone?
    But went down swinging it bankrupted itself stopping hitler and imperial japan and bringing freedom back to western Europe.
    Meanwhile Argentina was polishing its jackboots admiring hitler and offering sanctury to Nazis.
    Well it needed someone to teach them about facism so they could murder 3000 fellow citizens.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @35

    “Well, we do have some pride, the pride of being clean”

    Yes, your high morality in butchering most of your indigenous population:
    “Instead of being proud of manslaughter like you” (you celebrated this manslaughter on a peso note):
    (that's after the Spanish empire left by the way) and your country murdering
    30 000 of its own civilians 40 years ago (that's not 200 years ago, that's 40 years ago in the Dirty (clean according to you) War,come to mind as an example of this 'cleanliness.'

    Not forgetting the cleanliness of your troops shitting in the bedrooms of Islanders during the 1982 war (in fact everywhere but the actual toilets), plus shitting in the Post Office in Stanley again instead of actually using toilets.

    When the British troops took Stanley the first thing they could not believe was the dirt and mess created in just three months.

    This is a 'shining' example of your cleanliness.

    “we judged the military dictators and sent them to prison...”

    After which event caused their downfall?

    Why were the Junta not sent packing earlier???-the big clue is above.......

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”We do not have such stains“”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert

    oh
    yes
    you
    do

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Agreed.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @35 Lukie: ”We do not have such stains“

    oh
    yes
    you
    do

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezeiza_massacre

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @46

    Argie Right and Left Nationalists and Populists at each other's throats - similar to the K's and Macri today.0

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @47 ... at each other's throats

    So much worse than today.

    The murderous conflict of the Peronist left vs right was initially what the Dirty War was about. It was well underway by the time the military government came to power. It just got a little dirtier then.

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    This is hilarious.

    This is my answer: 10 million dead in India. By the english.
    Sush, sush my dear english bad guys.

    Don´t believe me? Dig the information, ask the Indian people... Maybe try internet?

    And yes, Campaña del Desierto. Maybe you are not fond of reading (I mean, you obviously aren´t at ALL fond of reading), but Argentina withstood a very long time raids, people butchered, kidnapped, cattle stolen and sent to Chile.
    We even attempted a ditch system instead of slaughtering aboriginals: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanja_de_Alsina

    Of course, the aboriginals from Chile, who had invaded and utterly exterminated the native aboriginals, did not want to stop the raiding.

    So we got tired. What would you have done? Give them hugs?

    Anyway, that was a small business compared with “just” the India affair. Let´s check out how many people you killed in China: 50 thousand, only in war! how many died of opium? well, I should dig it out.

    “Its the far past” the english complain. Ok buddies ok, lets look at the cheerful present: “Western wars have killed four million muslims since 1990”

    WOW, why didn´t you just gave them hugs?

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanja_de_Alsina

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    Bangal famine of 1943?

    Maybe not as it was caused by climate not the Brits.2500 famines between 11th and 20th centuries.

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    So very clean this Argentistan. Not only genocides against the Indians but workers as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia_Rebelde

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    This is my answer: 10 million dead in India. By the English
    PROVE IT.

    Anyway, that was a small business compared with “just” the India affair. Let´s check out how many people you killed in China
    PROVE IT.

    simple yet amazingly hard to prove, is it but.

    Apr 08th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @49
    The Indians were in India before the Brits.

    Who rules India now, the Indian people or the Brits?

    The Amerindians were in Patagonia before Argentinians.

    Who rules the lands occupied by the natives in Patagonia, now, Argentina or the Amerindians?

    Apr 09th, 2016 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Answer the man, LukeDig.
    Let us hear some more f your b/s & lies.
    What did Argentina do to the black people & the Amerindians, Lukey-boy?
    What a bunch of delicate little flowers, you all are.
    Diddums.

    Apr 09th, 2016 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    He cannot , will not , wont answer.
    He has no proof no documentation,

    just his daily cue card from his supervisor ,
    who is also probably on here, I Think...

    Apr 10th, 2016 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @55 Briton

    The K-dupe said the White Argentines all graciously interbred with the 30% Black population, and they were all “Mulatto's” by the Triple Alliance War, with no Blacks remaining.

    Apr 10th, 2016 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @56 That is one of the silliest explanations we have seen so far. Are we still waiting for yet-sillier proclamations by the perunchos or is it time to tell them about their own history?

    Apr 11th, 2016 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    you can try... :-)

    Apr 11th, 2016 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Don't they invent their own history as they go along ?

    Apr 11th, 2016 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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