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Four million Argentine children live in poverty conditions, according to Unicef
Almost four million children in Argentina are poor and 8.5% live in extreme poverty, according to a report from UNICEF which measures multidimensional poverty which considers 28 indicators such as nutrition, access to healthcare, exposure to violence, among other more traditional references. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI see that the contraception policy by the Catholic Church is working to bring more children into poverty. Educate the idiots that think “ coitus interuptus ” is working and that the failure to execute results in more poverty. But I suppose in the “ favelas ” there is not much else to do.
May 06th, 2016 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine children live in poverty conditions,
May 06th, 2016 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0im surprised our liberal elite has not offered them a home in the UK,
they help everyone else, and sod the British homeless children.
just my opinion.
Oh children in Argentina worry not. President Macri is bringing you the Joy. Food, education, sanitary improvements? Oh, no, that's populism and Great Wizard Macri doesn't get distracted by such menial deeds. Joy should suffice.
May 06th, 2016 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But... but... didn't Queen Kristina tell us that Argentina has less poverty than Germany?
May 06th, 2016 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am utterly confounded by this latest news.
Germany must have really gone downhill since I was last there... [sad-face]
@23 Reekie, you do understand that the wretched condition in Argenzuela with 30 percent or so of the population in poverty is the direct result of the Kirchner years of theft, mismanagement, theft, corruption, and theft? Is there any part of that which you don't understand?
May 06th, 2016 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
May 06th, 2016 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unicef statistically is one of the most unreliable international agencies.
The largesse of the unicef staff is the thing legends are made of.
Did someone really think that citing them would add credibility to the issue?
Who knows what the actual figure for rg child privation is?
It's rg - so it must be bad.
Speaking of privation - what is the homeless rate in Ft MM, canookis?
Yep that's right - 100%.
Dani/Teri/TRoy, why don't you get two shovels and help?
(The other shovel is for your buddy Reeeeeeekie.)
@3 “Oh children in Argentina worry not. President Macri is bringing you the Joy. Food, education, sanitary improvements? ”
May 06th, 2016 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, he's unlikely to do worse than the idiotic decisions made during the previous 12 years. He's already reversed some of that idiocy and, in my experience, most Argentines realise that there will be a period of pain before things get better as a result of the unstainable populism of the Ks. They are getting increasingly angry at the Ks as the scale of their theft is being revealed. There will always be a hard core of brainwashed fools who will continue to support CFK but that number will dwindle as more people realise the truth of how they have been misled.
“Oh, no, that's populism and Great Wizard Macri doesn't get distracted by such menial deeds. Joy should suffice.”
So you agree that you have misrepresented Macri's message (as well as not understanding what populism is).
So the general pattern is
CFK: We are going to build a road and here's the money for it.
Reekie: I applaud CFK.
CFK:
@7 “ So the general pattern is
May 06th, 2016 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK: We are going to build a road and here's the money for it.
Reekie: I applaud CFK.”
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No no no. This is the pattern:
CFK: “Oiga, Lázaro, ven por acá, we are going to build a road so here is three times as much money as is needed for that road. So there is one third for you, one third for me, and one third to get started on the road that probably won't get finished after the little speech that I give at the start of it where I get all this applause....”
Reekie: “Oh, that CFK was just so wonderful in bringing joy and happiness and jobs and equality and teddy-bears to Argenzuela and who cares if the country is bankrupt and those silly old roads never got finished and those power plants don't work as planned and we don't pay the foreign suppliers and ....”
Its not the government's job to feed people, employ people or give them a joyous life.
May 06th, 2016 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reekie is an avowed commie who fled like a rat when the going got tough in Argentina.
“Oh children in Argentina worry not. President Macri is bringing you the Joy. Food, education, sanitary improvements? Oh, no, that's populism and Great Wizard Macri doesn't get distracted by such menial deeds. Joy should suffice.”
May 07th, 2016 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that the Kirchners didn't fix the problem either after 12 years in power.
But Macri should have after only 149 days?
After 4,582 days of being ruled by the Kirnchers, this is still a problem.
Lucky Canada can even offer opportunities to refugees with Argentinean education levels like you Enrique. Thankfully your son got a Canadian education.
#10 Skip
May 07th, 2016 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Interesting that the Kirchners didn't fix the problem either after 12 years in power.”
The Kirchners, granted, did not end poverty--but they reduced it significantly.
I won't include any statistics because you scoff at numbers that destroy your set of beliefs.
No one pretends Macri must fulfill his “zero poverty” election promise in 150 days.
Would be nice if he just keep it as it is instead of increasing it--which he skilfully has managed to do in such a short time.
“Lucky Canada...yada yada.” Same old, Skip. Come on. Try something new.
But Macri should have after only 149 days?
@11
May 07th, 2016 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ but they reduced it significantly ” what a joke. Where is the evidence of that? When you have zero conception plans you are bound to increase the poverty. trouble with the Argentine economy is that most “ workers ”, and I use that word loosely, tend to work in the “ black economy ” which means that they do not contribute to the State. Mind you it is not all the “ workers ” fault as the employers will pay lower than market rates of pay.
Need a complete crackdown on the black economy, but won't happen.
This is Kirchners legacy.
May 07th, 2016 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0She and her supporters should hang their collective heads in shame.
11. They reduced it greatly...not according to any legitimate stats.
May 07th, 2016 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0This debacle they're currently in was directly caused by mismanagement and corruption of the Ks.
Shameful indictment of peronismo!
May 07th, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Canadastan educate someone?
May 07th, 2016 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They'd better worry about firefighting first.
Why didn't the canookis stay and fight?
@ 11 -- Reekie -- There is some convincing evidence that poverty in Argentina actually increased during CFK's second term. And that fits in very nicely with her deciding that the INDEC would no longer report poverty numbers.
May 07th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infobae.com/2015/10/02/1759551-subio-la-pobreza-el-segundo-mandato-cristina-kirchner-segun-datos-privados
Alberta cut their firefighting budget by 10.4 million.
May 07th, 2016 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a factor?
Canookistan's wildfire suppression policies have led to huge buildups of residual fuel.
Brilliant.
Cut it or lose it - it's that simple.
It's unnatural to have 50 & 100 & even 200 year fuel loads.
How pretty is a 100' evergreen as it falls burning onto your roof?
Canooki's stupid? No, they know everything - just listen to them.
Remember it's Canada so they have 1 road N/S and one road E/W.
May 07th, 2016 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't believe they didn't call for evacuations earlier.
@18,19
May 08th, 2016 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0And what has this to do with the subject matter? Stay on topic. Imagine a fire in a “ favela ” would be devastating for the poverty ridden residents.
Do they now have “favelas” in Argentina? Wow - Brasil is colonising Argentina!
May 08th, 2016 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Germany has an interesting question:
May 08th, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why middle eastern immigration?
Humanitarian purposes?
Replenish and rejuvenate a shrinking and aged workforce?
Atonement for holocaust era sins?
Germany has failed in all their skilled worker solicitation programs so it's actually about more producers/wage earners to prop up the machine.
Poor attempt at disguising blatant self interest.
22. And it could work if the Germans ( or French) would actually hire the immigrants instead of blacklisting them.
May 09th, 2016 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Germany will be the reason the EU collapses.
@8 My message got truncated for some reason. What I was trying to say was:
May 09th, 2016 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the general pattern is
CFK: We are going to build a road and here's the money for it.
Reekie: I applaud CFK.
CFK: OK, I stole the money and didn't build the road.
Macri: Since the road didn't get built as promised and we need it, I shall supply the money again and build the road.
Reekie: Macri is being populist!
Macri:
Reekie: I applaud CFK for building our road!
The details will vary but the pattern is the same. In the eyes of some CFK can do no wrong even when she doesn't deliver and steals, while Macri can do no right even when he delivers what CFK failed to.
Fortunately, the majority of the population is now seeing the truth and Macri's approval is in the high 70s. Most people realise that there will have to be some pain if they are going to have sustainable benefits and are increasingly angry at the level of theft by the previous governments. Reekie and his ilk are a noisy but reducing minority. I guess they'll get more noisy as they continue to dwindle in number.
@24 “Fortunately, the majority of the population is now seeing the truth and Macri's approval is in the high 70s.”
May 09th, 2016 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uh, no. I think the April numbers for Macri are 40 % approval and 45% disapproval.
Macri has not only been unable to pull any rabbits out of any hats, but it's unclear that he knows where the hats are. Macri is still trying to figure out where the money will come from to service the debt involved in paying the holdout creditors.
Both houses of the Argie congress passed the Ñoqui Preservation Act over strong objections from the Macri government.
And yet when D'Alia did a Twitter poll asking his followers what they thought of Macri, 72% of the 18,000 responders said they thought he was “very good/good” , 11% said “OK”, 8% “Don't knows” and only 11% said “very poor/poor”. http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1896482-los-sorpresivos-resultados-de-la-encuesta-de-luis-delia-en-twitter
May 10th, 2016 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0IIRC, an earlier poll had similar results.
“ Twitter poll” ....
May 10th, 2016 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dicen survey (consultora Dicen)
http://www.eldestapeweb.com/la-imagen-macri-sigue-baja-n17021
“Four million Argentine children live in poverty conditions”
May 11th, 2016 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0But that's impossible. Both Cristina Fernandez and Anibal Fernandez have told us, that Argentina has fewer poor than Germany and Scandinavia and according to many of our Argentine posters those are the two people in the world, who can really be trusted.
No, no, no! they must mean four children, not four million as in the brutal reality of Argentina in the real world.
@27
May 11th, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I know, but it is funny that he started the poll and didn't get the answer he was expecting or hoping for, irrespective of how statistically valid it is.
PRETTY OBVIOUS.
May 12th, 2016 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was pretty obvious that all those cretins, who have never given a shit about our country, were going to use this kind of articles, just to criticise the policies applied in the last twelve years. Anyway, beyond the hypocrisy of those cynics, i think it's very interesting the way that unicef measures poverty, because it's a much more complete analysis, than those that are made by the governments, and by different polls.
Unfortunatelly, the stupid decision taken by kirchnerism, when it interrupted the publication of the social indexes, and the serious suspitions of manipulation, provoked that many polls started to have more credibility, however, among all their figures, there are also deep differences, that's why, i think that they all must be taken in relative terms too, instead of taking so easily what they publish.
It's well known that kirchnerism didn't finish neather with poverty, nor with indigence, but although many cretins don't accept it, it was the government that did the most to improve the situations of poor people in the last forty years, while it is true that in the fifties, in the sixties, and untill 1974, Argentina had much more social equality than now, the actual social situation is much better than in the nineties, even under a reactionary government like Macri's, nowadays there is a great social protection which didn't exist in orther decades, but there are still some sectors which have nothing, and it's pretty obivous too that the government has a huge debt with those compatriots.
It's not necesary to see any poll to know that beyond the big social debt that we still have, there was also a deep change which improve the situations of millions of our citizens, if it wasn't true, kirchnerism wouldn't rule Argentina for three periods, which is something that none of the former administrations could achieve.
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