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US actor Steven Seagal granted Russian citizenship, receives his passport from Putin himself

Sunday, November 27th 2016 - 11:06 UTC
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has given a Russian passport to US action film star Steven Seagal in a moved aimed at easing relations with the United States. Read full article

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  • Think

    Geeeeeee...

    Who's next...?

    Rambo...?

    Jack Bauer...?

    Or the greatest of them all...: Chuck Norris...?

    Chuck(le)..., Chuck(le)...,Chuck(le)..., Chuck(le)...,Chuck(le)...

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Marti Llazo

    I'm nominating CFK for executive director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Kindly refrain from ticking my comments positively...

    I have a reputation to upold...;-)

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • DemonTree

    Lol, safely back in the red. You can relax again, Think.

    I can't decide if Putin should give Trump or Farage citizenship next.

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    TWIMC
    Thanks to all me me followers in here at MercoPress...
    My reputation has been upold... ;-)

    (And now.... Back to the Davis Cup Final In Zagreb...)

    Bamo..., Bamooo..., Argentiiiiiiiiina....
    Bamo..., Bamooo..., a ganaaaaaaa....

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Kanye

    Western Bloc posters,

    Don't be so easily fooled.

    Comrade Think/voice is quite jealous.

    Not since the Brezhnev era, has “Think” been so honoured by Mother Russia.

    Nov 27th, 2016 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Wink was always a closet commie.

    Nov 28th, 2016 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    Mr. Pilot,

    Think 'came out' a long time ago.

    Nov 28th, 2016 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Putin does realise he's not really a Navy Seal....does he...?
    Although he does look like he's expanding into the role...

    Nov 28th, 2016 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jack Bauer

    @Think the chimp

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....while you are usually full of crap, at least you seem to have a sense of humour....see, you can't blame me for not giving credit where it's due..

    Nov 28th, 2016 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Stop with your flattery... and learn from the master..., laddie...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJUVOaeUag

    Nov 29th, 2016 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Jack Bauer

    @ Chimp

    Geeeeeeeeeee....can I really ? d'you think ?

    Nov 29th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Anglo Turnip above...

    Well...

    - From your past posts,... I gather that you feel comfortable shooting homeless nine years old children sleeping on the streets of Rio or São Paolo (or paying others to do it.., what's even more cowardly...)

    So... Yes..., I really Think you could learn a thing or three from The Chuck...

    Nov 29th, 2016 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • chronic

    Stevie is yuuuuuuuuge.

    Nov 30th, 2016 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jack Bauer

    @ Chimp

    You are either not too bright, or have a bad memory....or both. I never said anything about shooting 'homeless nine-year olds on the streets', so your half-dozen brain cells must be failing...but you obviously think you're the bee's knees, don't you, stink ?

    Nov 30th, 2016 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Don't try to sugarcoat it... Jackie Chan...

    On your recent “exchange” with poster DemonTree you expressed your complete suppot for the Brazilian Dead Squads...

    We all know that those squads were paid per kill and that their favourite Modus Operandi was to kill tem whilst they were small and asleep... Nice and easy...

    Anyhow... Considering your young age..., I retract my previous accusation abou you paying them Dead squads to kill those boys...

    At the time..., you were surely a yong student being driven to one of the posh Engrish schools in Brazil...

    It was surely your Dad paying them bills...

    Nov 30th, 2016 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Troy Tempest

    Thinkvoice jealously waging a class war,

    he has none.

    Dec 01st, 2016 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @ JB
    Since the other thread has closed now, do you really support the death squads killing children, and think society is better off without them?

    Dec 02nd, 2016 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Jack Bauer

    @Stinky Chimp
    Since you're such a clever guy, please quote/unquote where I ever said what you claim I did...if you cant, suggest you keep quiet.
    And they are “death” squads, not 'dead' squads, numbnuts. I was talking of and supported the “SP” death squads, who only killed hardened criminals.but, referring to the death of a few street kids in RIO, most likely criminals in the making - reason why the RIO cops killed them - I think they had it coming to them...the fact that I'm not crying in my 'mojito' over them, is because I see things differently to you...but, if you want to pay them homage, then by all means , go to RIO and experiment the safety of walking the streets at night....or even during daytime. Twist my words all you want, read into them what isn't there, I couldn't care less.
    And if I did go to an English school and receive a good education, so what ? you jealous, stink ?

    @DT
    Considering that the RIO street kids who were massacred, would undoubtedly have eventually joined drug gangs, and become killers...... yes, I think the evil was nipped in the bud...Sound insensitive ? sure, but try comforting the father of a young boy or girl killed in the street because they didn't hand over their bicycle, or their skateboard....as I said before, the reality of where you live makes you see things differently...

    Dec 02nd, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Jupppp....
    Daddy paid them bills allright...
    Let's just hope there' s a purgatory for people like that...

    Dec 02nd, 2016 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Not sure why you're arguing with Think; you just said the murdered street kids in Rio had it coming, and that surely includes homeless nine year olds sleeping on the street.

    And supporting the murder, not just of the most serious criminals as you claimed before, but of children who have been abandoned by their parents and society and have nowhere else to go is more than just insensitive. Why do you care when the children who do have parents are murdered, if you don't care about the ones who don't? Or is it because the former have money and prospects that their lives are worth something?

    Dec 02nd, 2016 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Demontree..., me dear Engrish lad...

    If you ever make it to South America, you will surely have the chance to meet quite a few foreign residents, ex-pats and unintegratedand, unassimilated locally born Turnips as Jack Bauer, ChrisR or Marti Llazo....

    Don't make the mistake of Thinking that they “don't really mean it”... They do...!
    Remember... they are “convinced” they ain't “racists”.... they are just “realists”...
    Brainwashed Turnips........., I call them...

    They are our equivalent to your immigrated Muslim Fundamentalists, Jihadists and Home Grovn Terrorists.., i guess....

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Kanye

    Mr Demon Tree, open-minded humanist,

    If you ever make it to South America, you will surely have the chance to meet quite a few Venzla foreign residents, and locally born Turnips like Think/voice, Marcos, or Enrique the Kirchnerist...

    Don't make the mistake of Thinking that they “don't really mean it”... They do...!
    Remember... they are “convinced” they ain't “racists”.... they are just “realists”...
    Brainwashed Turnips........., I call them...

    They are the SA equivalent to your UKIP Nationalists and the US Trump “Uneducated”, Home Grovn racists .., i guess....

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    DemonTree....
    If you ever make it to North America...
    Avoid Canada... you might bump into Kanye...
    The plus side... being British he's bound to keep your arse clean....

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    :-)))

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Kanye

    Just another revolting thought from tea-bagger, Think/Voice.

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Voice

    1) one who carries large bags of packaged tea for shipment.
    2) a man that squats on top of a womens face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as “teabagging”
    3) An affiliate of the Tea Party movement, or a supporter of its protests and/or ideology.

    Which one...?
    Two aren't really applicable and one sounds like a compliment...

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    What a lot of people with advice for me!

    Think, those Death Squads must have been supported by native Brazilians too, or they'd never have happened. They weren't created by 'foreign residents, ex-pats and unintegratedand, unassimilated locally born Turnips', were they now?

    Kanye, I thought people here like to claim none of those posters you mentioned actually live in Argentina? I know Enrique doesn't anyway.

    Voice, weren't you advising ElaineB not to make a big deal out of the insults she receives? But here you are arguing with Kanye. Again.

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree

    Where in my above post do I say or even imply that those “Death Squads were not supported by some native Brazilians too or at they were exclusively created by 'foreign residents, ex-pats and unintegratedand, unassimilated locally born Turnips”...?

    By the way... ain't Anglo Turnip Jack, Bauer..., described himself as an Argentinean born Anglo that moved at a wee young age to Brazil and has now Brazilian citizenship...?
    Sounds enough unintegrated and unassimilated locally born Turnip to me ..., matey...

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    You said they're equivalent to our Muslim Fundamentalists, Jihadists and Home Grown Terrorists. Nothing they do is supported by the native population, and they certainly did set up their own terrorist cells etc.

    I did assume you meant Jack Bauer by that phrase. Weren't you born outside Argentina and moved there at a young age too? But I suppose you consider yourself to be fully assimilated.

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Voice

    DemonTree
    I don't make a big deal out of them...I take them in my stride and either render them harmless or throw them right back with a twist...or some form of wit...
    No malicious intent...intended or implied....
    A British arse licker...oh that was a good one...;-))

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree

    You are wading into deep waters now...
    What is nowadays an Engrish “Native”...? The new UK ambassador to Brazil...?

    By the way..., I'm born and bred first generation Argie... Aware of most of my beloved Country's defects, faults, flaws, imperfections, deficiencies, limitations, blemishes, failings, drawbacks, weaknesses and vices..., at your service.

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Briton

    Apparently Steven Seagal is making a new version From Russia with love.
    I wonder what the new title would be.?

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    Dunno, guess it depends on context. Who is considered a native in Argentina, is it like Native Americans?

    I don't understand these generations. I though the actual immigrants were the first generation, and their children were the second generation, and so on?

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree

    “I don't understand these generations.”..., you say...

    A good thing thar Google thingest..., I say...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    “The term first-generation, as it pertains to a person's nationality or residency in a country, can imply two possible meanings, depending on context:

    A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born: e.g., ”first-generation“ American,

    A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence: e.g., ”first-generation“ migrant.

    There is no universal consensus on which of these meanings is always intended.”

    Well that was helpful, not. Since you said you were born and bred in Argentina, I guess you meant the first version.

    I reckon those jihadists you mentioned are mostly native born, but unintegrated and unassimilated. Dunno if they are turnips though.

    And I see that Jack Bauer has not returned, although he's posted in other threads.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Simples...

    If you are born from immigrant parents in a “Jus Soli” Country..., you are a first generation citizen of said Country..

    If you are born from immigrants parents in a “Jus Sanguinis” Country..., you are a second generation immigrant...

    Argentina is a “Jus Soli” Country...


    Turnips they are those Jihadists... Nasty ones... Jack Bauer included...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Voice

    I think Mr.Think is the first generation of his family to be born in Argentina, his parents being from one of the Scandinavian countries...
    His children would be second and grandchildren third generation Argentines...
    ..but I'm not entirely positive...
    I also have no idea how many generations it takes to be considered a Native...
    Anglo Saxons are only native to the British Isles for about 65 generations...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Troy Tempest

    @ DT

    “Kanye, I thought people here like to claim none of those posters you mentioned actually live in Argentina? I know Enrique doesn't anyway.”

    He is quite right.
    You might encounter people “similar to” Think.

    It's doubtful he or any of the others Live there, despite what they may say.

    As reported by many on MP, Think has been caught out using various personas claiming earnestly that they were a Scot living in Dover, or others from places other than Argentina.

    “Think” is pretty much universally believed to “Voice”, anti-English living in Scotland.

    “Think” and “Voice” both appear at the same time and in the same threads “conversing” with each other.

    Both seem to be most actively posting when European posters would be doing the same. Not the time zone for the Americas.

    ThinkVoice is a pretentious, Champagne Socialist with a chip on his shoulder.

    He will do or say anything rather than concede an argument.

    His favourite tactic is to goad and bait adversaries with personal insults, to deflect them off-topic away from the original argument.

    His favourite subject is himself.

    Just as he has done here.

    He could never endure the privations of the ordinary citizen of a Kirchnerist Argentina.

    “Enrique Massot” posts under his real name and if you look at his FB page, you will see that he is a retired day-labourer and newsletter writer in his 70's, living in rural Alberta Canada.

    He was a young brainwashed Communist
    idealist who was kicked out of SA in the 70's, like all the rest of the bank-robbing terrorists and anarchists tearing down the fabric of a Democratic society to pave the way for a Communist paradise, like it or not.

    Now he lives comfortably in Canada, while writing his poison that he hopes the Argentine economy will fail, the people will suffer hardship, and the elected government will fail.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Frank

    Thicko has never been to RGland , he gets everything from wiki... caught out more times than enough so just changes subject and keeps banging on....
    Some say he is in the pay of Mercopress.....

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Kanye

    Some say that Think/voice is also “Chronic”, the fake Yankee

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • ElaineB

    I don't know about Think et al is in the pay of Mercopress. Do you mean to ramp up the comments section? The more active = more advertising revenue? It is a theory but as Mercopress is based in Uruguay I cannot see the connection. Someone mooted the idea that he was in the pay of the Kirchners or one of their support groups. We know that they had large numbers of people working social media. I just can't see that it can be true because he adds nothing to discussions that would usefully persuade anyone to support the Kirchner cause. JMO

    The English language comments section of the board does lack people from Argentina who can contribute first-hand experience and comment. There are a few and some that live there from time to time. Others fabricate a life there - no idea why - and are easily tripped up. But, as everyone has said, the majority of rabid Kirchner supporters never lived in Argentina to experience the hardships and reality. They prefer to hold their homeland in a bubble of fantasy. It is fairly typical for ex-pats to hold an unrealistic view of their homeland, the longer they are away.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    That's not true. “In the United States, among demographers and other social scientists, the term ”first generation” is used to refer to foreign-born residents (excluding those born abroad of American parents).” This agrees with my experience; when Americans say first generation they mean the actual immigrants, which is why I was confused by what you said. And the USA is a jus soli country.

    Besides, lots of countries got rid of unrestricted 'jus soli' relatively recently, what happens then? The UK had it till 1983, and India only abolished it in 2004, Ireland in 2005, New Zealand in 2006.

    And what has Jack Bauer supposedly done that's comparable to a Jihadist?

    @ Voice
    No one whose ancestors came to the USA since Columbus is considered a native, and that's got to be a decent number of generations. So I don't know. But there are no actual Angles or Saxons in Britain today anyway.

    @ Troy Tempest
    If all these claims of sock puppetry are true then there are only about 3 people posting on this website. :-O

    I don't think this thread had much of a topic to start with though so it doesn't really matter where it goes. I was more interested in Jack Bauer's reply, but he seems to have disappeared.

    About Enrique, he has said several times that he doesn't want the economy to fail because people will suffer. Maybe you don't believe him, but that is what he wrote.

    Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

    @ ElaineB
    The Spanish language comments section is also lacking people from Argentina since it no longer allows comments!

    Do you think TobiTroll really lives in Mendoza?

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    DemonTree
    Troy Tempest is a born Canadian from British Columbia...but he thinks he's British or rather English...;-)
    His account got hacked...copied, he got all in a huff and swore he would never post under the name Troy Tempest again...obviously his word means nothing...
    He could never stay away and merely created a new account, but kept the old one....

    Watch out for a Brit sycophant that is always ready with snide comments forever trying to suck up to Brits and posts from North America but never uses American spellings....

    Should be too hard to spot him.....;-)))))))

    ...and now for something completely different...
    Learning curve for today...
    Did ya'll know that your unique ID is numerical and in order from the oldest to the newest...
    Hey folks I'm new to the site and blah de blah....
    ermm....I don't thinks so...;-)

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @ Voice
    I thought you were accusing Kanye of being 'yankeeboy'?

    And yes, I suspected the 'usuario' numbers were in order of joining, but since I haven't been here very long, I couldn't be sure. It makes ElaineB one of the earliest posters, and Kanye is one of the few who joined after me.

    But now you've told them this, people who want to claim to be new will simply create a brand new account to post from.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    DemonTree
    Nah I sometimes bait for a particular reaction...folk can't change their behaviour...
    I miss Yankeeboy he is not posting and was a great character...;-(

    I like to give folk a fighting chance to pull the wool over my eyes and so keep them informed..
    You have probably guessed, myself and Mr. Think are two entirely different people...
    He is about half an inch taller than me...;-)

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr.DemonTree...
    What's true is the following...:
    - From precisely same source you used at your comment above...:
    “A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born: e.g., ”FIRST-GENERATION“ AMERICAN”
    A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence: e.g., “FIRST-GENERATION” MIGRANT...“
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_generations#First_generation

    If you care to re-read my posts, you will see that I have always written, ”FIRST-GENERATION“ ARGENTINEAN as my primary nationality..., ergo...: ”A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born”...

    You are welcome...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    That's the same text I posted in my last-but-one comment. But I see what you mean, although I didn't know there was such a distinction until now.

    It doesn't have anything to do with jus soli vs jus sanguinis though.

    Anyway, that means both you and Jack Bauer were born in Argentina to parents who had moved there. I guess there wasn't a Norwegian or Danish school for your parents to send you to.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    @ DemonTree

    That's NOT THE SAME text you posted in your last-but-one comment... That's the text some seven lines above the text you posted in your last-but-one comment... Happy you see what I mean..., and that you now know there is such a distinction...

    It DOES INDEED have quite a lot to do with Jus Soli vs Jus Sanguinis...

    Anyway, that means that both Jack Bauer and meself were born in Argentina to parents who had moved there... You better GUESS AGAIN, THOUGH... because there were indeed Swedish and Danish schools in Argentina my parents could send me to...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @ Think
    I was wrong... it wasn't in the last-but-one comment, it was the one before that. This would be easier if we still had comment numbers.

    I said:

    “A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born: e.g., ”first-generation“ American,

    A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence: e.g., ”first-generation“ migrant.”

    You said:

    “A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born: e.g., ”FIRST-GENERATION“ AMERICAN”
    A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence: e.g., “FIRST-GENERATION” MIGRANT...“

    But if it's to do with Jus Soli vs Jus Sanguinis, how come the first is more commonly used in America, which has Jus Soli citizenship?

    I didn't know there were enough Swedish or Danish immigrants in any one place to make it worthwhile having a school. But if your parents chose not to send you to one, I assume it was so you wouldn't become an unintegrated, unassimilated turnip. ;)

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Bit of truth about it...
    Some foreign schools in Argentina do indeed act as unintegrated, unassimilated turnip factories...
    ................... Specially them Engrish ones...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    Who goes to these English schools anyway? I didn't think there were many immigrants from Britain or Ireland these days.

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    You do think wrongly...

    Dec 04th, 2016 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    With all due respect, you are putting words into my mouth.....the image you have conjured up regarding “children who have been abandoned by their parents and society and have nowhere else to go...” is not totally accurate...the ''kids' were not exactly “homeless, or abandoned” - that's the impression human-rights try to convey - from 'poor' parents, undoubtedly, but kids who ran away from home, attracted to the 'glamour' of a life of crime on the streets, where they don't have to follow any rules...which their parents probably tried to teach them and failed ; but seems they attracted enough attention from the cops to get themselves killed. People here usually say, “if you feel so sorry for them, then adopt one”; does anyone ? of course not, and certainly not the 'bleeding-hearts' ; Unfortunately, that's what happens when they prefer crime to school.

    “Why do you care when the children who do have parents are murdered, if you don't care about the ones who don't?
    Wherever did you get that from? where did I say ”I care when the children who do have parents are murdered, and I don't care about the ones who don't?“ I used the example, without any reference to social class, merely to show that these ”street kids“ find it quite ok to kill another 15 year old - who might be just as poor, and only because they resisted in handing over their bike, their watch, or their cellphone...it doesn't happen to only the 'well-to-do-kids', which for some reason, weirdos like 'Stink' might think is justified...I know that in 'civilized' countries there are tons of options, but not really in Brazil, and especially not in Rio, where the State is completely absent...then, and now. I'm sorry, but I feel there is little chance of finding some common ground on these sensitive issues unless both parties have first-hand experience in them.

    As to ”Stink”, I detect a certain amount of jealousy coming fm Chubut...nasty sentiment, but only a problem to those who feel it.

    Dec 05th, 2016 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Troy Tempest

    Demon Tree,

    @ Thinkvoice's comments

    ”Troy Tempest is a born Canadian from British Columbia...but he thinks he's British or rather English...;-)”

    I did tell ThinkVoice at one time that I lived in Canada.

    The rest of what he says is pure conjecture on his part, nothing more.

    ThinkVoice tries to tell other posters who is qualified and who is permitted to comment on events and issues.

    He will challenge the qualifications of adversaries, in an attempt to goad personal information from them.

    He'll then discredits them employing disgraceful personal attacks and ethnic slurs.

    Just watch.

    Oh, and don't let him wheedle information from you...

    Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT (reply to yr post under “Uruguay preparing to receive Lula...”)
    I’ve tried to avoid saying it, but honestly, 'never having lived here, you can’t imagine what it’s like'…look at it this way : while most of the first-world has abolished the death penalty, according to the last published poll taken in Bzl, in 2008, 57% of the population was in favour of it…one-third against ; obviously, the wish of the majority won't become reality because of the Catholic church (and ‘human-rights’- putting the welfare of criminals before that of the victims and their families). The reason why 57% support it, is because in a country where 70,000 homicides occur each year, and with the prison population growing beyond the State’s capacity to lock them up, the people's patience is stretched to the limit…'News' is usually about corruption and crime(50/50)...there's corruption in just about anything that has to do with public funding ; death by murder, stray bullets, kidnapping, rape, ATM’s being blown up, billions worth of cargo being stolen every year, you end up becoming immune to things that aren’t too close to you…not saying it’s the best way to go, but it IS the reality. One thing you learn pretty quick, is that it can, and does happen to people you know…
    Why Brazilian politicians are dishonest, has several causes : first, the popular notion that there's nothing wrong with “taking care” of one's self”, i.e., no qualms about taking dishonest advantage of a situation or of someone ; second, the politicians see their electorate as an amorphous mass, ‘just’ people they don’t know or relate to ; third, the majority of the population - like in most countries - is not particularly smart, and in Brazil, where public education is nothing to write home about, you have the ideal breeding ground for corrupt politicians...the ”Lavajato however seems to be changing this, thus Congress's desperate and disgusting attempts at passing laws to protect themselves from past crimes.

    Dec 05th, 2016 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Too much to reply to at once...

    @ Think
    Your INDEC disagrees with you. There's not even enough people born in Britain to have a separate listing, which strongly suggests there are less than for France, with under 7,000 people. That's not going to fill many schools.

    @ Troy Tempest
    I'll bear it in mind, but I don't think he's asked me for any personal information. I don't claim to have any special knowledge of the things he cares about, so i don't know why he'd bother.

    @JB
    Actually support for the death penalty in the UK only dropped below 50% in 2014, 50 years after the last executions were carried out. And that is in a country with a relatively low murder rate, so I'm quite surprised it isn't even higher in Brazil. I can see why people are frustrated with the crime in Brazil (to put it mildly), but when one fifth of the killings in Rio are done by the police, it's not so obvious that what they are doing is working.

    As for the street kids, they are attracted to the 'glamour' of a life of crime? Surely just a few nights of living on the streets would put them off unless their home life was even more terrible?

    And how many of them ever killed someone? Seems they were a lot more likely to be killed themselves than the reverse, and that once the police were being paid to murder people, they became more corrupt in other ways and eventually were used as assassins.

    But you keep mentioning the people who support human rights. Are they also Brazilians, who lived through these things? It seems the new constitution was definitely designed to protect human rights, so there must be some people who disagreed with you?

    Dec 06th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    Troy Tempest
    you silly old duffer...If you are going to try and pass off your puppet Kanye as a different person...
    Try and remember not to use the same phrases...
    Look at this thread and see who is calling me Thinkvoice....and other threads...
    ...and how many times have I warned you that I remember everything I read...?

    “Kanye
    Some say that Think/voice is also “Chronic”, the fake Yankee”

    The only person that has ever claimed that is you....back in May this year...

    ”Troy Tempest
    As you can see, “Mimic ” @ 24, 26, now backs up Think, just like the voice puppet.

Mimic also pretends to be an American - shades of voice puppet's claims to visit and own property in Pennsylvania .

Mimic never contradicts Think or voice, for that matter.

Mimic jumps onside with YB/Luci, the Freds, to attack the UK and Commonwealth posters.

It's obvious that Mimic is ThinkVoice.

Cue voice and Mimi, cue the contrived “disagreement” thread”

    Mimic being Chronic...
    Try and remember what you post, because I do....
    Do yourself a favour and drop the puppet....
    No one is going to copy you...again...honest...;-)))))

    Dec 06th, 2016 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse -2

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