The Brazilian government announced it had opened an investigation among miltiary institutions regarding Royal Air Force landings in Brazilian airports, while making flights between Britain and the Falkland/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
It's purely an internal matter. That is in fact protected under international law and a UNGA resolution preventing interference in a countries internal affairs. Article 2.7 of the Charter of the United Nations provides that Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter...
However the Brazilian foreign ministry, Itamaraty, did not make any official statement on the matter, accepting or rejecting Argentina claims regarding military flights to the Falklands calling in Brazil.
So much for the Argentina's belief that all of Latin America is rock solid behind it and its bogus Falklands claim, the house of straw founded on myth and whimsy.
Lots of crying from precious Anglos above, crying that they were caught.
Argentina will stand up to the UK's encroachment anywhere in Latin America, as we have for 200 years, Falklands or not Falklands.
That is in fact protected under international law and a UNGA resolution preventing interference in a countries internal affairs.
Then the UK has violated the UN charter dozens of times, Anglos should be ashamed of being the rogue nation of the world alongside North Korea.
As for the Olympics, Tokyo is also under suspicion of bribery, and it is proven fact Salt Lake City and Atlanta, ANGLO cities, where also bought olympics. Ditto Sochi, and probably Beijing, and Athens...
And London was so corrupt the even the Russians were disgusted!
AustrOllOpithecus
“The UK has violated the UN charter dozens of times” Since you bear the burden of proof to prove your assertion. You better get cracking or your none-compliance reveals you as a liar. Who cares what the Russians think as they are the biggest cheaters bar none.
Terence always barks everyone is a liar, even if what you wrote here is so obvious that even elementary kids know it´s true.
UN charter has been more than violated, it has been violently raped constantly by the UK, only by checking NATO actions you have a beatiful, longer-than-the-bible record of crimes against humanity.
Not to mention of course, the disobedience to the UN mandate to decolonize Malvinas
LukeDig
Thanks for the confirmation that you cannot marshal one single solitary fact to support your naked opinion. No surprise here just a typical Argentine response. Its beyond me why the British would ever bother to discuss the issue. Since the ‘colour of right’ under international law, is completely on their side. They have acted in complete compliance with their obligations under the UH Charter, Article 73. So the Islands are now decolonized, it’s a done deal.
as we have for 200 years
[ Argentina did not exist 200 years ago ]
as for the argies complaing to brazil,
it shows two things,
1=it still presumes it can dictate to other south American countries,
2- it proves they will use any incident, know matter how trivial to push this sovereignty rubbish,
just goes to show that a leopard never changes it spots,
The British constantly are trying to dictate to other countries, drop your ridiculous amnesia act no one believes it.
The UK gov are CONSTANTLY issuing unwelcome comments on the affairs of other countries, just recently calling the Russian fleet the ships of shame, and denouncing their actions. Of course, the British themselves have multiple times sent their own ships to other countries to bomb them, without UN and never called their own fleet ships of shame... typical.
LukeDig
“…but you cannot say I talk blindly.” Yes I can with absolute certainty since all you present is claims while gnoring the Burden of Proof.
“Burden of proof (or onus probandi in Latin) is the obligation on somebody presenting a new idea (a claim) to provide evidence to support its truth (a warrant). Once evidence has been presented, it is up to any opposing side to prove the evidence presented is not adequate. Burdens of proof are key to having logically valid statements: if claims were accepted without warrants, then every claim could simultaneously be claimed to be true.” http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof
“Mr Think already responded about the decolonization “ He and his innumerable aliases have been proved time and time again to be nothing but sheer sophistry. As international law supports the UK’s position on at least six issues, while he has not been able to present one solitary issue of international law in support of Argentina.
Same old usual Argentina controlling every Latin American country because those Countries are scared of Argentina and until they have the bottle to stand up to them nothing will change and neither will our resolve to remain British and have nothing to do with Argentina either.
You annoy the hell out of Argentines... and EUians, and Russians, and Irish, and Scottish, and Arabs, and Chinese, and Australians, and on and on and on....
You are doing nothing right. That has not changed in 400 years.
You have sold yourselves to the USA and that is the only reason you have any status remaining. That is why your government always toes 100% the US line. The ultimate irony a government in London that talks so much about regaining independence through Brexit but the sad truth is your foreign policy has been dictated from Washington for 70 years now, no independence at all.
Ultimately, Argentina does not have the right to do anything about the RAF in other countries, but I do hope that if by some mistake one day, British forces enter Argentine territory, they will be irradiated on the spot... erradicate first, ask questions later should be the standing orders (and not like the cowardly Spanish who did not eliminate the British troops that landed from Gibraltar some years back, should have shot them on sight).
So is Argentina monitoring Brazilian airspace to know where the flights are going? And lol that they apparently know more about it than Brazil does.
But what do they expect to happen if there is a medical emergency or trouble with the plane? Do they really expect Brazil to leave people to die?
@Trollboy
They don't follow the US 100% of the time, although it is still more than I would like. And you are as ridiculous as usual; killing airmen for entering your territory accidentally is the kind of thing only North Korea would do.
Troll
If you advocate the instant destruction of any UK forces that land or overfly Argentina, inadvertently then you are asking for a cruise missile up your jaxi.
I would then advocate that ANY Argentine vessel or aircraft in Falkland waters, including S.Georgia should be destroyed on sight.
This would lead to a state of war between our two nations and YOU would not win.
But of course, a silly little adolescent Troll like you would say that it was a moral victory for you. Who cares a toss about ARGENTINA !
If the UK military is so superior then they should NEVER EVER even make the mistake of entering someone else's territory by mistake. Such superiority would brook not such errors, thus the only conclusion would be that it was a deliberate act of war, and thus the offending units should be eliminated.
Again, only because the UK military is claimed to be infallible, thus no mistakes can ever take place and anything that looks like a mistake would clearly be deliberate.
The UK would be in no position to relaliate if Argentina destroys any UK forces within its territory, Argentina would be following the UN charter and the UK, if they retalitate would be confirming that the original transgression was an act of war.
A war in Argentine soil would be a sure defeat for the UK, remember you already have tried before and lost.
You are as ridiculous as usual, Trollboy. No one but trolls claims the UK military is infallible. And if you are sure that a war on Argentine soil would be a loss for Britain (I agree by the way), then how can you pretend to be worried by RAF flights or British forces accidentally entering Argentine territory?
There would be no war on Argentine soil. The UK does not have the ground forces to conduct such a campaign and could not win it. Again, why would we want to invaded such a god-forsaken place.
To quote your 200 year old defeat of British forces in Buenos Aires and think that you are a military power is laughable.
If any service personnel were discovered by Argentinian forces and surrendered without a fight then they would be covered by the Geneva convention.
If they were massacred as you would hope, then that is classed as a war crime and Argentina could be hauled up before the International Court in the Hague.
Also, if we felt like it, we could keep potting you off at long distance without putting a foot on Argentine soil or entering your sovereign territorial waters.
Grow up !!!!!!
However, I don't think that the Argentinian government is as stupid as you and would even contemplate such an action
Actually the Argentine government let some RAF typhoons transit to chile due to being unable to land at MPA it was covered on mercopress so isn't actually stupid.
That said it couldn't have actually done anything anyways but that's not how grown ups behave.
Boots on ground are only required to gain and hold territory these days Toby...
Destroying communications and infrastructure, fuel supplies the ability to propagate a war is how nations are destroyed in modern strategic combat...
Planes, drones, missiles are all that is required...
Think Libya...
Yeah, but also as seem in Libya that just creates a massive mess that will continue to cause problems for everyone for years, and probably create a load more terrorists to attack you. It would be pointless and counterproductive to do it.
@ReTArDOpithecus
The fact that you completely lack any capability to eradicate anything more sophisticated than starving Stone Age nomads, doesn’t dim your hopes at all then???
Not to mention the Brits don’t need to set foot on your part of Creole occupied S. America, to destroy it.
@DemonTree
It’s the difference between winning a war and establishing the peace.
The latter requires boots on the ground, very little appetite for that these days
@Voice
Since most of these messes have not done the US any good, I'm inclined to think it's just incompetence. Besides, in Latin America, they preferred propping up dictators and ensuring US companies always had access.
@Pugol-H
That explains why the world is so ****ed these days, then.
That is why your government always toes 100% the US line.
The famous Argentine '100%', everybody (minus a few), all, (but not quite all)etc etc.
i.e. 'Everyone' supports Argentina's claim, except the Commonwealth and many other countries around the world.
Did the UK follow the US into Vietnam?
The UK parliament voted not to join the USA in Syria a few years back.
Forgot already?
We had some US help with the Falklands war, but generally we did that without US forces to help.
that if by some mistake one day, British forces enter Argentine territory, they will be irradiated on the spot.
That is doubtful, no need for the UK to go into Argentina. But how would you eradicate them? The FIDF could operate in Argentina with impunity, mind you, you do have Tucanos and Pucaras as the backbone of your airforce, so I guess that would scare off overflying RAF Typhoons .
If by chance one of your Tucano fighters managed to catch up with any overflying Typhoons to use their machine guns on them, and managed to score a hit,we could simply lob a few cruise missiles and take out what we wish, without setting foot on your soil.
To be honest why would the UK invade Argentina, when Argentina is doing its best to destroy itself from within?
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt's purely an internal matter. That is in fact protected under international law and a UNGA resolution preventing interference in a countries internal affairs. Article 2.7 of the Charter of the United Nations provides that Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter...
Mar 03rd, 2017 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +4So if the moaned in 2015 and got told FRO, why would they bother moaning again?
Mar 03rd, 2017 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Argturds just love to moan!!!
As Brazil is damn good at investigating; might as well investigate:
Mar 03rd, 2017 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0French newspaper says; REF: HOSTING OLYMPICS:
http://plus55.com/brazil-sports/news/2017/03/brazil-cheat-way-hosting-2016-olympics
Oh! the poor dears get a hearth attack if a British plane lands in Brasil, not to mention if 12 do so every years. Sob! Sob!
Mar 04th, 2017 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse +2However the Brazilian foreign ministry, Itamaraty, did not make any official statement on the matter, accepting or rejecting Argentina claims regarding military flights to the Falklands calling in Brazil.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0So much for the Argentina's belief that all of Latin America is rock solid behind it and its bogus Falklands claim, the house of straw founded on myth and whimsy.
Lots of crying from precious Anglos above, crying that they were caught.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse -3Argentina will stand up to the UK's encroachment anywhere in Latin America, as we have for 200 years, Falklands or not Falklands.
That is in fact protected under international law and a UNGA resolution preventing interference in a countries internal affairs.
Then the UK has violated the UN charter dozens of times, Anglos should be ashamed of being the rogue nation of the world alongside North Korea.
As for the Olympics, Tokyo is also under suspicion of bribery, and it is proven fact Salt Lake City and Atlanta, ANGLO cities, where also bought olympics. Ditto Sochi, and probably Beijing, and Athens...
And London was so corrupt the even the Russians were disgusted!
AustrOllOpithecus
Mar 04th, 2017 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse +3“The UK has violated the UN charter dozens of times” Since you bear the burden of proof to prove your assertion. You better get cracking or your none-compliance reveals you as a liar. Who cares what the Russians think as they are the biggest cheaters bar none.
Terence always barks everyone is a liar, even if what you wrote here is so obvious that even elementary kids know it´s true.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse -3UN charter has been more than violated, it has been violently raped constantly by the UK, only by checking NATO actions you have a beatiful, longer-than-the-bible record of crimes against humanity.
Not to mention of course, the disobedience to the UN mandate to decolonize Malvinas
LukeDig
Mar 04th, 2017 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse +3Thanks for the confirmation that you cannot marshal one single solitary fact to support your naked opinion. No surprise here just a typical Argentine response. Its beyond me why the British would ever bother to discuss the issue. Since the ‘colour of right’ under international law, is completely on their side. They have acted in complete compliance with their obligations under the UH Charter, Article 73. So the Islands are now decolonized, it’s a done deal.
as we have for 200 years
Mar 04th, 2017 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse +4[ Argentina did not exist 200 years ago ]
as for the argies complaing to brazil,
it shows two things,
1=it still presumes it can dictate to other south American countries,
2- it proves they will use any incident, know matter how trivial to push this sovereignty rubbish,
just goes to show that a leopard never changes it spots,
The British constantly are trying to dictate to other countries, drop your ridiculous amnesia act no one believes it.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse -2The UK gov are CONSTANTLY issuing unwelcome comments on the affairs of other countries, just recently calling the Russian fleet the ships of shame, and denouncing their actions. Of course, the British themselves have multiple times sent their own ships to other countries to bomb them, without UN and never called their own fleet ships of shame... typical.
Changing the subject will not help your false case,
Mar 04th, 2017 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +3I have presented books, articles, and other arguments in this forums. No one reads them of course, but you cannot say I talk blindly.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Anyway, Mr Think already responded about the decolonisation issue, still ongoing
AustrOllOpithecusDICKHEAD how come you constantly talk like a fool???
Mar 04th, 2017 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +3HRH ROSE
Constantly? I've only been in this forum for 9 days.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -3LukeDig
Mar 04th, 2017 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“…but you cannot say I talk blindly.” Yes I can with absolute certainty since all you present is claims while gnoring the Burden of Proof.
“Burden of proof (or onus probandi in Latin) is the obligation on somebody presenting a new idea (a claim) to provide evidence to support its truth (a warrant). Once evidence has been presented, it is up to any opposing side to prove the evidence presented is not adequate. Burdens of proof are key to having logically valid statements: if claims were accepted without warrants, then every claim could simultaneously be claimed to be true.”
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof
“Mr Think already responded about the decolonization “ He and his innumerable aliases have been proved time and time again to be nothing but sheer sophistry. As international law supports the UK’s position on at least six issues, while he has not been able to present one solitary issue of international law in support of Argentina.
Nostrils seems to have got worse since his holiday? Possibly because he was let out of his cell for too long. Bromide injections next....
Mar 04th, 2017 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If we are annoying the hell out of Think,Nostrils, Luke Dig and fellow travelers, then we MUST be doing something right.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Brazil... where the nuts come from. Argentina... where the seriously deluded come from...
Mar 04th, 2017 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Same old usual Argentina controlling every Latin American country because those Countries are scared of Argentina and until they have the bottle to stand up to them nothing will change and neither will our resolve to remain British and have nothing to do with Argentina either.
Mar 04th, 2017 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You annoy the hell out of Argentines... and EUians, and Russians, and Irish, and Scottish, and Arabs, and Chinese, and Australians, and on and on and on....
Mar 05th, 2017 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse -6You are doing nothing right. That has not changed in 400 years.
Daft article.
Mar 05th, 2017 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Daft article ?
Mar 05th, 2017 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Argentina investigating if RAF flights landed in the country
Very daft indeed..lolol
The thing is Troll, we are further up the totem pole than you will ever be DESPITE being hated by everyone. How can that be ?
Mar 05th, 2017 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2You have sold yourselves to the USA and that is the only reason you have any status remaining. That is why your government always toes 100% the US line. The ultimate irony a government in London that talks so much about regaining independence through Brexit but the sad truth is your foreign policy has been dictated from Washington for 70 years now, no independence at all.
Mar 06th, 2017 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse -1Ultimately, Argentina does not have the right to do anything about the RAF in other countries, but I do hope that if by some mistake one day, British forces enter Argentine territory, they will be irradiated on the spot... erradicate first, ask questions later should be the standing orders (and not like the cowardly Spanish who did not eliminate the British troops that landed from Gibraltar some years back, should have shot them on sight).
So is Argentina monitoring Brazilian airspace to know where the flights are going? And lol that they apparently know more about it than Brazil does.
Mar 06th, 2017 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse +2But what do they expect to happen if there is a medical emergency or trouble with the plane? Do they really expect Brazil to leave people to die?
@Trollboy
They don't follow the US 100% of the time, although it is still more than I would like. And you are as ridiculous as usual; killing airmen for entering your territory accidentally is the kind of thing only North Korea would do.
Troll
Mar 06th, 2017 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse +3If you advocate the instant destruction of any UK forces that land or overfly Argentina, inadvertently then you are asking for a cruise missile up your jaxi.
I would then advocate that ANY Argentine vessel or aircraft in Falkland waters, including S.Georgia should be destroyed on sight.
This would lead to a state of war between our two nations and YOU would not win.
But of course, a silly little adolescent Troll like you would say that it was a moral victory for you. Who cares a toss about ARGENTINA !
You have sold yourselves to the USA
Mar 07th, 2017 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +1[ proof please ]
Ultimately, Argentina does not have the right to do anything about the RAF
[ very true ]
British forces enter Argentine territory, they will be irradiated on the spot...
[ so you DO have secret nuclear weapons then]
lololol
If the UK military is so superior then they should NEVER EVER even make the mistake of entering someone else's territory by mistake. Such superiority would brook not such errors, thus the only conclusion would be that it was a deliberate act of war, and thus the offending units should be eliminated.
Mar 07th, 2017 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Again, only because the UK military is claimed to be infallible, thus no mistakes can ever take place and anything that looks like a mistake would clearly be deliberate.
The UK would be in no position to relaliate if Argentina destroys any UK forces within its territory, Argentina would be following the UN charter and the UK, if they retalitate would be confirming that the original transgression was an act of war.
A war in Argentine soil would be a sure defeat for the UK, remember you already have tried before and lost.
You are as ridiculous as usual, Trollboy. No one but trolls claims the UK military is infallible. And if you are sure that a war on Argentine soil would be a loss for Britain (I agree by the way), then how can you pretend to be worried by RAF flights or British forces accidentally entering Argentine territory?
Mar 08th, 2017 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse +2Also 'brook not'? You sound like a Victorian!
There would be no war on Argentine soil. The UK does not have the ground forces to conduct such a campaign and could not win it. Again, why would we want to invaded such a god-forsaken place.
Mar 08th, 2017 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1To quote your 200 year old defeat of British forces in Buenos Aires and think that you are a military power is laughable.
If any service personnel were discovered by Argentinian forces and surrendered without a fight then they would be covered by the Geneva convention.
If they were massacred as you would hope, then that is classed as a war crime and Argentina could be hauled up before the International Court in the Hague.
Also, if we felt like it, we could keep potting you off at long distance without putting a foot on Argentine soil or entering your sovereign territorial waters.
Grow up !!!!!!
However, I don't think that the Argentinian government is as stupid as you and would even contemplate such an action
Actually the Argentine government let some RAF typhoons transit to chile due to being unable to land at MPA it was covered on mercopress so isn't actually stupid.
Mar 09th, 2017 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0That said it couldn't have actually done anything anyways but that's not how grown ups behave.
Boots on ground are only required to gain and hold territory these days Toby...
Mar 09th, 2017 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Destroying communications and infrastructure, fuel supplies the ability to propagate a war is how nations are destroyed in modern strategic combat...
Planes, drones, missiles are all that is required...
Think Libya...
Yeah, but also as seem in Libya that just creates a massive mess that will continue to cause problems for everyone for years, and probably create a load more terrorists to attack you. It would be pointless and counterproductive to do it.
Mar 09th, 2017 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DemonTree
Mar 09th, 2017 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought that was standard US foreign policy...
@ReTArDOpithecus
Mar 09th, 2017 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that you completely lack any capability to eradicate anything more sophisticated than starving Stone Age nomads, doesn’t dim your hopes at all then???
Not to mention the Brits don’t need to set foot on your part of Creole occupied S. America, to destroy it.
@DemonTree
It’s the difference between winning a war and establishing the peace.
The latter requires boots on the ground, very little appetite for that these days
@Voice
Mar 09th, 2017 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since most of these messes have not done the US any good, I'm inclined to think it's just incompetence. Besides, in Latin America, they preferred propping up dictators and ensuring US companies always had access.
@Pugol-H
That explains why the world is so ****ed these days, then.
@AustrOllOpithecus
Mar 11th, 2017 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is why your government always toes 100% the US line.
The famous Argentine '100%', everybody (minus a few), all, (but not quite all)etc etc.
i.e. 'Everyone' supports Argentina's claim, except the Commonwealth and many other countries around the world.
Did the UK follow the US into Vietnam?
The UK parliament voted not to join the USA in Syria a few years back.
Forgot already?
We had some US help with the Falklands war, but generally we did that without US forces to help.
that if by some mistake one day, British forces enter Argentine territory, they will be irradiated on the spot.
That is doubtful, no need for the UK to go into Argentina. But how would you eradicate them? The FIDF could operate in Argentina with impunity, mind you, you do have Tucanos and Pucaras as the backbone of your airforce, so I guess that would scare off overflying RAF Typhoons .
If by chance one of your Tucano fighters managed to catch up with any overflying Typhoons to use their machine guns on them, and managed to score a hit,we could simply lob a few cruise missiles and take out what we wish, without setting foot on your soil.
To be honest why would the UK invade Argentina, when Argentina is doing its best to destroy itself from within?
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