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Theresa May sends strong warnings to Scottish government: “UK will not drift apart in post-Brexit”

Monday, March 6th 2017 - 08:43 UTC
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United Kingdom Prime Minister Theresa May has warned the Scottish Government that control over policy areas such as fishing and agriculture might not come to Holyrood in the wake of Brexit. PM May said while no powers will be taken away from Scottish ministers as a result of the decision to leave the European Union, responsibilities that transfer back to Britain from Brussels “must sit at the right level to ensure our United Kingdom can operate effectively”. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    SCOTLAND CANNOT AFFORD TO LEAVE THE UNION - WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OF THE REST OF BRITAIN IT WILL NEVER SUCCEED. FURTHERMORE, SPAIN WILL REJECT ANY ATTEMPT BY SCOTLAND TO JOIN THE UNION - IT DOESN'T WANT TO APPEAR WEAK IN ORDER TO AVOID PROBLEMS WITH CATALONIA.

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The Voice

    Scottish NATIONAL Party.... Wee Jimmy has a single agenda and it's blind to facts and totally disregsrds the views of the majority of Scots
    who believe in the union. Kapish?

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Major

    Fishface has played the Scottish people and they know it. I predict the demise of the SMP in the coming months and year. The Scots are not a daft people and they will make this woman pay dearly for what she has tried to do. Cryptic? Only for the ones who do not know what she has done

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSesDoidao

    What is that desparate woman on about? Scottish ministers have no 'powers'. This is why after the next Independence referendum (and a YES vote of course) we will be entering negotiations with the UK Gov prior to oficially returning to being an Independent state.
    Meanwhile people, carry on repeating your Yoon mantra I see in the comments above. ;-).

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AustrOllOpithecus

    “I am determined to ensure that as we leave the EU, we do so as one United Kingdom, which prospers outside the EU as one United Kingdom. That means achieving a deal with the EU which works for all parts of the UK – England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland – and for the UK as a whole.”

    ... And I want a million in salary everyday, plus a 10 million retirement pension invested over 25 global stock markets, a fresh delivery caspian sea Tuna daily -- from location to door -, a trip to tour the outer solar system and back (in three months), to travel back in time to the high Middle Ages and Tang China, a new computer every month, a new cell phone every week, the sun to rise in the west twice a week... and a private Thylacine, Great Auck, and Warrah exhibit.

    I think I should add I want to live to 1000 in order to approach the same level of demands as the British PM....

    Mhbwahahahahahaha.

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Conqueror

    @EscoseSesDoidao.. What makes you think you're getting another referendum? 'Once in a lifetime' is what you lot said. And you cannot, legally, mount such a referendum without UK authority. Going to act illegally? Ready for troops on the streets and martial law?

    If you want to leave the 'union', it's not a problem. Ask the people of England, nicely, to vote on it. You'll be 'independent' before you know it. One important feature. When you joined the 'union' you brought land and debts. And that's what you'll leave with. And there is nothing in international law to say otherwise. So there will be nothing to 'negotiate' about.

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Actually Scotland didn't bring debts to the Union, England paid Scotland compensation for having to take on a share of responsibility for the preexisting English national debt. But that amount is dwarfed by the current national debt, which was borrowed by the whole UK, including Scotland.

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    D.T.
    I have pointed this out to... years ago and included refernces which staste exactly what you say.
    At the time of Union, Scotland had no national debt--England had. So a sum was granted to Scotland in proportion to Englands debt which Scotland was now a party too.

    The ”English don't like this fact so they lie about it as Conq does.

    Mar 06th, 2017 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Clyde15
    I'm one of 'the English' too. Don't judge us all by Conqueror!

    In my experience most English people know nothing about it, so would easily believe whatever they read in the papers.

    Mar 07th, 2017 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I am using an all embracing term as the greatest proportion of the English population don't know the facts but prefer to believe that the “Scots” have an easy time and are feather bedded by the generous “English” controlled government.

    The tabloids like to sensationalise this and so do many loud-mouthed English MP's

    You only have to look at the daily Mail's headlines and editorials. I would need a pair of tongs to even touch this waste of paper.

    Mar 07th, 2017 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Dear Nicola wants control of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland, then let’s give it to her.

    Under Barnet Scotland would get 10% of the fisheries budget to protect, what 50% approx, of the sea area, at a time when it’s going to be more in need of protection than at any other.

    Same for Agriculture, where the budget is surprisingly small as most of it currently comes back in the rebate.

    Taking on those policies would require the Scot Gov to find large amounts of new money, if they want to protect their fisheries and subsidise their farmers that is.

    Care full what you wish for Nicola dear, you might get it.

    Has she done any costings on this???????

    Or is she seriously thinking that control can go to Holyrood and the bill to Westminster.

    Another case of “failure to give me this could spark a second independence referendum”, and “defiantly much more inevitably more than likelihood increased”, ad nauseam.

    @ Clyde15
    You don’t think the SNP has done anything to provoke that response then?

    Mar 07th, 2017 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    These “responses” have being going on for decades long before the SNP had any power whatsoever.

    Mar 07th, 2017 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Clyde15
    I'm sure you're right that most don't know the facts, but that's not the same as lying about it. I don't appreciate being called a liar.

    As for the tabloids, a lot of them told their readers to vote for Brexit, and promised them that nothing bad would happen. They dismissed any and all warnings as 'Project Fear'. Now that we can see there is a real threat of Scotland leaving the UK, there is a danger people will realise that they were lied too, and so the papers are desperately trying to convince their readers that Scotland will never leave, and if it does then England will be better off anyway.

    And to me it seems that things have got worse on both sides since the referendum (actually since both of them). Cameron's campaign during the Indyref managed to piss off pretty much everyone for different reasons, and the SNP seem to blame all Scotland's problems on the Westminster government and by extension the English.

    Mar 08th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @Clyde15
    The way you feel about certain “Tabloids” comments, the reaction they provoke in you, is the way the SNP attitude and statements are regarded here.

    With the now legendary anti-Englishness of SOME Scots, again as perceived from here.

    An inevitable “response”, when looked at from here.

    Forty years ago things Scottish were fashionable and I don’t just mean the Bay City Rollers.

    Just my view.

    Mar 08th, 2017 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I worked in London in the early 1960's and came across anti-Scots sentiment even then.
    A general condescension that the English were rather superior -again mainly in London

    I used the word “English” in the same context as people in this forum here use “Scots”

    We are treated as a homogeneous mass as if we were all of the same opinion.

    We are reminded of how lucky we are to have the benevolent “English” bankrolling a feckless population.

    You don't like being called a liar, I don't like being called a feather-bedded scrounger to which a lot of these comments are alluding .

    I have yet to hear anyone - apart from the political classes and TV commentators - talking about another referendum. It's a non-event here. I think people are more interested and worried about job security. It would appear that most of our businesses are foreign owned and they can relocate if they feel it is to their advantage.

    We have the cry now of “Brexit” at all costs. I personally have the feeling that the proverbial will hit the fan and it will take us a decade to work through it to an uncertain future.

    This is the first time I am glad to be old !

    Mar 08th, 2017 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Clyde15
    Those comments are also unfair, and ridiculous too. A lot of people here would like things like free university education or free prescriptions, but seem to forget that they refuse to vote for them.

    Surely the polititians are exactly who you would expect to be talking about a referendum though? Now they have the perfect reason/excuse to call for another one.

    I'm sure Brexit is going to be hard, and things have already been bad for nearly 10 years now. I'm pretty pissed off that it was mostly older people who voted out but we are the ones who will have to rebuild the economy somehow.

    And I didn't even vote to stay in the EU for the economy, but for the same reason I want Scotland to stay in the Union: I think we're stronger and more powerful when we are united; we can achieve more, and look after ourselves better. It's stupid to fight among ourselves when there are so many bigger problems, but people seem really determined to, both in Europe and within the UK.

    Mar 08th, 2017 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    I have programmed my Smart TV with a new function. If Wee Jimmy appears on the screen it automatically switches off!

    Though my regular visits to Scotland, and enjoying the company of many Scottish friends on various adventures at home and abroad I have the utmost respect for Scots and the way that they organise themselves and maintain their traditions and identity. But, I believe they and Britain will be diminished without them. But, if the majority in Scotland believe they are better off outside the UK and in the EU good luck to you!

    Mar 09th, 2017 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I have not got a clue as to what will happen and neither does anyone here.

    What I can say is if more of the same condescending stories and half-truths are peddled by the tabloid press THEN there is a good chance that the Scottish voters will say ...stuff it ...let's go.
    It may well not to be to their advantage but we have a history of taking up lost causes and seeing them through to the bitter end, regardless of the consequences.

    Anyway, not to be associated with people like the stupidly named conq. would be a plus.

    It may also not to be to England's advantage internationally. Countries would no doubt wonder what was wrong with England that a small country, who we are continually told, is subsidised by England,wanted out of the Union.

    What is so wrong that they would do this ?

    Mar 09th, 2017 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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