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Falkland Islands Budget highlights for 2017-2018: spending within means and no borrowing

Saturday, June 3rd 2017 - 07:45 UTC
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The Falkland Islands government has announced highlights of its Budget for 2017/18, approved by the Legislative Assembly and which becomes effective on first July 2017 and will end on the 30th June 2018. Read full article

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  • Jo Bloggs

    I think the MLAs have done a pretty good job overall and it's good to see some decent sums of money being spent on some of our infrastructure. I don't agree with their decision on MST; I would've been happy to keep paying that... and a CT scanner! Who was that troll who used to go on about that all the time? I can't remember now.

    Overall, a strong, in the black budget. I don't think it will remain in the black due to some changes in contingency but it is a more realistic budget than many in the past half dozon years or so.

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    As opposed to the neighbouring argentine approach, which is to not only spend a great deal more than is taking in via revenues, but to “spend” in the form of massive criminal graft and corruption, and to swell public spending by inserting hordes of unemployables into unproductive make-work government jobs for political purposes. Quite unlike the Falklands model.

    We see in today's argie media that the present government is explaining why so few companies wish to “invest” in Argentina. The principal points: Argentina is largely unreliable, unproductive, and unprofitable. Argentina is a high-risk location and the low levels of potential profit don't justify the enormous risks involved. Argentina has a demonstrated and recent history of expropriation of private enterprises, commonly referred to as theft. To that we can add the details of high inflation, excessive taxation and regulation, an essentially unruly or even hostile workforce, crumbling and antiquated infrastructure, high crime levels, and an unreliable and compromised judiciary, among others. Small wonder that the islanders don't want any of it.

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    That is funny, all those claims that a CAT scanner wasn't necessary and apparently it's a high priority addition...
    The Troll was right after all....;-))

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jo Bloggs

    What...?

    That's just nonsense; nobody ever said it wasn't a priority. We just had higher priorities and in the meantime we flew people who needed access to a scanner to Chile or the UK. Now we're finally getting one and that's great. The troll was a troll: neither right nor wrong. Just bitter and twisted. Not unlike you, Voice.

    Marti

    We haven't borrowed money for as long as I can recall if ever at all and it's nice to know we are able to live within our means. Of course, defence and diplomacy is handled by the U.K. as is the case in all BOTs.

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Voice...

    Jupppp.... It seems to be that th Kelpers are learning from us Argies...
    - The good things (like the CT Scanner... ;-)
    - And the bad things (like the “FIGAS flight rates for tourists”...:-(

    A tourist that pays..., at least 3,000 U$ to fly down to the Malvinas... and then pays ~300 U$ per night for a whole weeks accomodation... must now also pay a much higher and completely discriminatory “FIGAS flight rate for tourists”...

    Thatis NOT the way to treat tourists..., me dear Kelpers...!
    Who is the Genius responsible for that “brillant” idea...?
    Huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...?

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think. Has Argentina EVER had a surplus budget? As for FIGAS fares. We can't keep up with tourist demand and FIGAS is subsidised so obviously the tourists see the value in a Falklands holiday and are happy to pay. Poor old Think.

    Jun 03rd, 2017 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • teaberry2

    Think...............when i got to Chile I pay more as an tourist to get into the national parks etc....when I go to Orlando i pay more for the entry fee than the locals to theme parks, its the way it is duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you should be called thicko not think..........

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Islander1

    Cat Scan - simple- times have changed- what was once usefull but very expensive - is now an almost essential piece of medical kit in an advanced society and like all tecnical machines they get cheaper in real terms- so fair enough.
    How many working ones does Arg have in Tierra del Fuego I wonder?
    Think- tourist or non-resident FIGAS fares are set to at least break even - what is wrong with that? It sure does not bother our growing tourist economy. Limited only by local infrustructure and I see that expanding over next 24 months with more beds and wildlife lodges and better airterminal allowing larger commercial aircraft even if only once a week, and the 2 from UK.
    Think - we actually do not need your side to develop. Would help yes - but not essential and likley to not be worth the price anyway.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Nope.., Kelper Teaberry2 & Islander1....

    It's NOT “the way it is”... and it maybe doesn't “bother your growing tourist economy” just now..., but it is a matter of principle that frustrates many a globetrotter...

    As the linked article below correctly describes... one reluctantly accepts to be a Cash Cow in them poor Countries... but when visiting a rich Pirate Engrish Colony...it feels exactly as what it is...
    A rip off...
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/Should-foreign-tourists-pay-more-than-locals/

    Anyhow...
    Suit yourselves Kelpers...
    Press some extra Pounds from the few tourist that visit you and have already paid a small fortune to do so...
    I know that your “smartness” against them will backfire almost immediately... as it does everywhere...

    Have a nice sunday...
    El Think...

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    Boy it hurts you, doesn't it Think. Here we are in a very solid position backed by the concept of self determination and there you are bleating about it year in year out and the best you can do is tell us that we are ripping off tourists and that one day Argentina's “long game” will pay off and the Islands will be yours. Every time something else the Argentine Government tries fails to make any difference you tell us the plan is all falling into place nicely. Ba ha ha ha ha ha!

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    It ain't no secret that the Engrish military occupation of some 12,000,000 square km. In the South Atlantic pisses me off...

    I have said so meself plenty of times...

    But boy... you are really butthurt about me telling you years ago to stop dreaming about getting rich through the development of that piece of real estate of yours in Puerto Estanley...;-)

    Have a nice sunday..., lad...
    El Think...

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • gordo1

    Think - Usted verdaderamente es un individuo muy pesado -¡ha salido de un nido de ratas!

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • teaberry2

    MR THINK OR THINK NOT..........its the way its is..... if you visit Torres del Paine as a Foreign visitor you will pay Chilean pesos 21.000..same as Fuerte Bulnes if you are a national you only pay 6.000 a massive difference, in Orlando if you go to place's like Daytona Lagoon you will pay US$57 as a foreign visitor or US$47 a local.... did I complain....nope cos that is the way the cookie crumbles...you should get out and about a bit more to see what goes on in the real world....hasta la vista baby....

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Teaberry2...

    As I wrote in my above post...:
    《Jupppp.... It seems to be that the Kelpers are learning from us Argies.......... the bad things (like the “FIGAS flight rates for tourists”...:-( 》

    And now you give me an example of our Shilean neighbours ..., that do the same baaad thing... and top it with a place in the USA that I luckily never have been to...
    https://daytonalagoon.com/admission-pricing/
    Puajjjjj.....

    Everything depends whom you want to resemble and be compared too..., me dear Kelper lad...
    For example..., I can't Think about a single place in Europe that charges extra to tourists...
    That's the way that cookie should crumble...
    Capisce?

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Dunno why you'd object to them being more like Argentina.

    It's true though, I have never seen it in Britain or anywhere else in Europe.

    About the CAT scanner, no need to worry about Tierra del Fuego, it looks like they are also about to get shiny new ones:

    http://www.eldiariodelfindelmundo.com/noticias/2017/04/04/71434-nuevos-tomografos-para-los-hospitales-de-ushuaia-y-rio-grande

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. Demontree...
    I dunno object no Kelper being more like Argentina...
    What I do object is Turnipidity... be it in Buen Pasto..., Puerto Estanley...or Anantanarivo..

    That couple of thousand pounds them Kelpers will make yearly by overcharging tourists..., could be lost tenfold and in a jiffy just by a negative comment by some influential travel blogger...

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think
    If ever anything about commenting on Mercopress could be considered worthwhile, knowing that it pisses you off, is it. As for your comments about me being butt hurt, you've lost me. I have a couple of modest property investments and they are doing just fine. I've never thought they'd make me rich and it would be hard to imagine they ever could. They're nothing more than a complement to my pensionsnd I have no desire to be filthy rich.

    I think you're mistaking me for them squidionaires that drive around in them shiny new Range Rovers. Despite Mrs Bloggs insisting on owning her God-damned Defender, the best I can manage is a Disco and even it's about 5 years old now.

    Poor old Think.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Well, how kind of you to give them good advice on improving their economy then.

    Your first line makes no sense, by the way.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    The ferry tickets on Western Ferries cost almost twice as much for visitors if bought on the ferry...the locals buy them in various shops around the area...
    The tourists can buy them...if they know about the one shop on the other side of the water in Gourock that sells them in case a local has forgotten them....but they don't...

    Just putting it out there...;-)

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Think, Funny thing is that them tourists do seem to want to come here in preference at times to Argentina. Remember the great plan to penalise and make it difficult and costly for cruise ships visiting Argentine ports to then also call and Falklands ports? When big cruise ships simply started blanking off calls to Argentine ports-because their passengers want the Falklkands calls instead - it sort of blew up ion your faces I recall .

    WE do not overcharge in FIGAS - it is subsidized to locals - who pay taxes. It is not subsidised to tourists who do not pay local taxes- simple as that.

    And don't tell be that AA airline does not charge higher prices BA-Ushuaia in summer than it does in winter.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Voice
    Sneaky, but what Think's 'influential travel blogger' would write is 'here is a great tip to save money on Western Ferries', rather than 'these bastards are gouging tourists'.

    In Italy a lot of museums etc had a reduced price for EU citizens under 25 (as well as other groups), which is somewhat similar. However, that group includes a lot of tourists and excludes a lot of locals.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    There is a widespread practice in Sudacamerica, charging nonresidents considerably more for such things as airfare or entry to national parks.

    For entry to Parque Nacional Tierra del Fuego, for example, Argentina charges foreigners three times as much as they charge residents.

    For the ferry between Puerto Natales and Puerto Yungay, Chile charges foreigners nearly six times as much as the rate for residents.

    Sorry, Tinkle, the Falkland Islands ferry rates do look a lot more christian than the differential practices on the continent.

    Jun 04th, 2017 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You say...:
    “Well, how kind of you to give them good advice on improving their economy then.”

    I say...:
    I always do... And not only about economy...
    For example in the “Single Constituency” debate...
    I told them not to... They did Think about it... and followed me...

    Or in the case FIRPASS vs Puerto William...
    I told them to go for FIRPASS... They did Think about it... and they did...

    If only they would listen about returning them stolen Malvinas to their right Mother Country...




    And..., last but no least...
    About “My first line in an above comment... ”making no sense”
    It does...if one is a strong promoter of the fine art American of Engrish double negatives...
    I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv them sooo much that I'm exploring the use of triple ones..., by the way....
    I shall call them... megatives...;-)

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Not surprising you like them since that is how Spanish does it, but I wouldn't say a double negative made no sense. It may not be not considered correct English but everyone will understand you fine if you use one. No, it's the rest of your sentence that's wrong.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    It may not be not not considered correct..., but everyone understands me fine ....
    Even you..., lad...;-)

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Is THAT your idea of a triple negative? It just looks like a typo. A proper triple negative would be something like “I ain't never done nothing.”

    And seriously, I don't always understand you fine. Since you frequently don't write clearly, I have to guess your meaning, and then you are shocked, SHOCKED, if I get it wrong, and you blame me for not understanding you.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Voice

    DemonTree

    That phrase ends as a positive...a double negative ends as a positive therefore triple negative must end as a negative...I think...
    Anymore past that and I start to have a headache thinking about it...

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Voice
    So what's your conclusion about those two phrases? May double negatives be considered correct and have I done anything ever?

    It's easy in multiplication: an odd number of negatives is negative, an even number of negatives is positive.

    In English generally a double negative is still intended to be negative, and if it's not the speaker will usually make it clear by putting unusual emphasis on it.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Returning to the ripoffing of Malvinas Island tourists by them Engrish squatters...

    Hands up those of you..., non turnips present here..., that wouldn't feel a bit unconfortable sitting in one of those ageing FIGAS Islanders having paid double the money than them fat cat Islanders around you...?

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    DemonTree

    “When you multiply three negative numbers in math, you end up with a negative number, and the same is true for speech: Three negative words equal a negative meaning.

    Triple negatives usually take a few seconds to think through. For instance, comedian Groucho Marx famously said, “I cannot say that I do not disagree with you.” The words “cannot,” “not” and “disagree” all have negative meanings on their own. Because there are three of them in the sentence, the sentence has a negative overall meaning. Saying “I do not disagree with you” would be positive, since it has only two negatives -- but Groucho “cannot say” that, so in fact he disagrees with his listener.”
    http://education.seattlepi.com/triple-negative-work-english-5297.html

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Voice
    That is somewhat confusing to think through, but I would come to the same conclusion about what he means. However, if someone said “I don't know nothing about computers”, I certainly wouldn't be asking for their advice.

    Now I wonder what happens in Spanish where double negatives are correct. Think, can I say something like “No puedo decir no desacuerdo con usted,” and does it mean I agree with you or I disagree?

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    “No puedo decir que no estoy en desacuerdo con Usted”... meaning..., I disagree...

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Clyde15

    Think

    I don't see what your problem is. As a mainlander,if I wish to use Calmac Ferries to visit the Western Isles, I will pay a higher fare than the Islanders who can have free tickets. It seems fair to me. Some of the services they need are only available on the mainland such as hospital treatment.
    I believe it is the same for Western Ferries for SPT holders.

    In the case of the Falklands, I presume that it is the FIG that subsidise the fares for Islanders who will be paying tax on the island.

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Thanks. So if I say “No puedo decir que estoy en desacuerdo con Usted”, does that mean I agree?

    How about “No sé nada sobre computadoras”?

    Jun 05th, 2017 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr.Demontree...

    Your Spanish is correct on both accounts...

    By the way..., yo complained earlier about not understanding my posts...
    《“ And seriously, I don't always understand you fine. Since you frequently don't write clearly, I have to guess your meaning, and then you are shocked, SHOCKED, if I get it wrong, and you blame me for not understanding you.”》

    I say...:
    Laddie...
    Firstly..., nobody in here “shocks” me in any way...
    Secondly..., If you just put some attention when reading my posts..., you wouldn't get them wrong so often...Mostly you ommit or add to them to make them fit your preconcepts...
    Thirdly...All I ask for is for people to read properly what has been written before engaging...
    No more..., no less...

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    That's very interesting. In the first sentence the two negatives cancel out, like Voice said, but in the second they reinforce each other. I don't know what the difference is between the two, but it does exactly match how I would understand the same sentences in English, even though the second is considered bad grammar. It's not so obvious why this would be true.

    It seems to be only the words like nobody, never, nothing, that have to match a negative in Spanish. Any other negative form like 'desacuerdo' or say 'rechazó' makes the sentence mean the opposite?

    Anyway, when I read your posts I have to correct them in my head, eg “If you just paid some attention when reading my posts, you wouldn't get them wrong so often. Mostly you omit or add to them to make them fit your preconceptions.”

    Normally this is fine and I understand what you meant to say, but sometimes I get it wrong. It's not surprising as language can be ambiguous, and no doubt my preconceptions do influence how I interpret things, but it's not just a simple matter of reading properly and understanding. Plus I don't do this consciously, unless I think about it as I did just now. I just read and understand - or not.

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Languages have funny ways...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oH-TELcLE

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    So in a wide ranging and forward looking budget, all the childish detractors can find to complain about is the CAT scanner and FIGAS fares. We must have it about right.

    Some interesting new investments to continue our economic growth and continued success.

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. GALlamosa
    Who complained about the CT Scanner...?

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Islander1

    Think - correct. FIGAS is subsidised by its owners- FI Govt - who set the fares at a subsidised level to us income tax paying locals. our taxes go to the same fares for our 1982 veterans on return pilgrimage trips and current forces based here for our protection.
    All others pay the actual cost of operation fare.

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    TWIMC

    I Think there is no need to make my complete opposition to differential prices and tariffs for tourists clearer...
    Specially in isolated locations where those few tourists can't abstract from the feeling of being cash cows...

    Muhhhhhhhhhhh........

    All the rest are pathetic excuses from the locals to hide their penny pinching avarice...

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Clyde15

    That's your opinion and worth only that. As a tourist I have been charged more than locals for museum, national park entrance fees and transport fares in many countries.
    I accept that as a fact of life. Why should local tax payers subsidise tourists.

    I get subsidised in bus transport travelling free anywhere in Scotland. When anyone reaches retirement age they will also get free bus transport.

    Students and young people also get subsidised transport rates...why not if the voting public agree to this concession.

    As a so-called socialist I would have thought that you would agree with the practice.

    But again, the word FALKLANDS appears and this triggers your pathological hatred gene so you have to disagree in your usual curmudgeonly manner.

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Dear squatting Kelpers...

    Applying price discrimination against tourists works as well as peeing in your pants for warmth...

    But... Don't take me word for it... Google it...

    (And if you happen to find any academic paper..., serious journalistic article or expert opinion that contradicts my above asseveration..., I'll kindly ask you to post a link to it...)

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.conservationfinance.org/upload/library/arquivo20100420190544.pdf&gws_rd=cr&ei=7Ao3WcqyI-uSgAbQw5OYBA

    ”Differential fees are widely viewed as essential for the following reasons:

    • Residents of a destination country are already paying, through taxes, for PA conservation, as well as encountering opportunity costs (e.g. reduced use of resources from the land now protected);
    • Environmental education and recreation objectives of PAs will normally seek to encourage visits by local people, which would be discouraged with higher user fee rates; and
    • Foreign tourists from developed countries are generally willing and able to pay more for access to PAs”

    This is about fees for National Parks etc and not transport, and anyway only the first reason could apply to FIGAS. But it's still price discrimination against tourists. Also looking at the median income of Falkland Islanders they don't appear to be fat cats, and it's probably the poorer ones living in 'camp' who need the service the most.

    Jun 06th, 2017 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Kanye

    Distilling this all down...

    Think draws criticism, then insults others with claims of being misunderstood and hard done by.

    He has been very clear recently, “ I am not here to make friends.”

    THAT we DO understand.

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    A bit weak your material... don't you Think...?
    Not one positive effect mentioned for the individual tourists or the Tourism Industry ...
    Unless..., of course..., you count as positive the income for the Protected Areas Industry...

    An industry that IMHO has grown to be out of touch with reality..., self-serving and authoritarian...
    Well regulated and monitored but open areas as..., for example..., the EU Biosphere Reserves that include the local population interests and other human factors in their development are the way to go...
    Lately one can easily meet more natural diversity and quantity in those free of charge European Protected areas than in some much hyped and expensive exotic locations...

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    You didn't ask for positive effects for the individual tourists or the tourism industry, but the main one would be better funding for the Protected Areas which the tourists have come to see, funding which will hopefully be used to ensure they continue to be worth seeing in the future.

    I don't know much about the industry but I can see there are arguments on both sides. If these European Protected Areas are free of charge then who is paying to maintain them, the taxpayer? Is it better for people who have no interest and don't visit to pay for conservation, or those who do visit and enjoy the parks?

    I don't like it, but there is also the argument that it is just good business sense to charge people what they can afford to pay, and if you have two groups of customers, one of whom is much wealthier than the other, to charge them two different prices. This allows the park/government/whatever to maximise their income from visitors.

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    “There is also the argument that...... it is just good business sense....... charge people what they can afford to pay..... maximise income......”

    Sounds like a Tory talking about the NHS...
    Peeing.. pants... warmth...
    Same shiat...

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Well, I said I didn't like it. The argument that those who are already paying for something with their taxes should get a discount is a little more convincing. For transport you can also argue that it may be a necessity for the locals to access essential services, while for tourists it is a luxury.

    For parks and such, what should they do if the price locals can afford is not enough to fund them? Put the prices up for everyone, making it impossible for most of their own citizens to afford to visit, or put the prices up just for tourists?

    I think I would only be really bothered by differential pricing if the price I was paying was a rip off, which unfortunately does seem to be the case in some places, or if it was in an already rich country.

    Jun 07th, 2017 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You say...:
    《“I think I would only be really bothered by differential pricing if the price I was paying was a rip off, which unfortunately does seem to be the case in some places, or if it was in an already rich country.”》

    You mean...:
    Like... if you were an Engrishman... flying over a British military base in the South Atlantic... that has easly cost over £10 Billion in Engrish Tax Monies during the years... and the British citizen sitting next to you recounts that he has paid halffare for his plane ticket..., that he makes more money than you..., that he doesn't pay any Bitish tax... and is making a killing sitting on his unexercised gross arse selling fishing licences to Asian slave ships..., just because he “idenifies himself” as a Kelper...?

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    The argento country that invented massive corruption, 50 percent or so of its children in poverty, and the endless ñoqui culture, is hardly in a position to be criticising its neighbours.

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    And if he tells me instead that he makes less than me, and pays local taxes that go to subsidise the fights, and needs to fly to the hospital today for medical tests? Then I might feel very differently.

    I think it does qualify as an already rich country though, so I don't think it's a great idea for them to do this.

    Also you never answered my question. What about really poor countries? Should they price out the local people, or charge tourists so little that they can't afford to maintain the parks?

    Jun 08th, 2017 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr.DemonTree...

    I have impicitly responded that question above... IMHO, “Protected Areas” should be managed much more after the UN Open & Inclusive Principles...:

    http://www.unesco.org/new/en/natural-sciences/environment/ecological-sciences/biosphere-reserves/

    ..........Than by some randomly created, national paramilitary self-serving organization of small uniformed pseudo-environmental Adolf H's... driving around in expensive 4x4's..., collecting fees and harrasing the locals... in a maximum security prision kind og system...

    I have experienced both at close range... and it is completely evident for any Thinking human being.... which works best

    Jun 09th, 2017 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
    “that he doesn't pay any Bitish tax” Why would he when the cause is his bellicose neighbour. But don’t worry as the cost is infinitesimal.
    ”Although the Falklands War had a very noticeable short-term impact on defence expenditure, the impact was not long-lasting. .. 1989-90, a mere 0.33%.” http://nikdarlington.blogspot.com.br/2010/05/falklands-war-cost-benefit-analysis.html
    It costs Argentina more than the UK in their conflict according to Carlos Escudé.
    La reivindicación argentina de Malvinas solo sirve para comprar el voto de ciudadanos poco educados

    Jun 09th, 2017 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think

    You say:
    '..........Than by some randomly created, national paramilitary self-serving organization of small uniformed pseudo-environmental Adolf H's... driving around in expensive 4x4's..., collecting fees and harrasing the locals... in a maximum security prision kind og system...'

    I say:

    How wrong you are. Our 4x4's are not expensive. We get them much cheaper on the road here than in most places.

    So, when is JC coming down to do the deal with Argentina over the future of my home? Oh, that's right, silly me, Labour lost the election. ...and not only did Labour lose the election but JC's views on the Falklands are not Labour's policy on the Falklands.

    Close but no cigar old man.

    Poor old Think.

    Jun 09th, 2017 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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