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Norwegian announces new London to Argentina route as UK growth continues
Buenos Aires becomes airline’s first South American route - New affordable fares break current monopoly on direct London-Argentina flights. Norwegian has announced a new route from London Gatwick to Buenos Aires, marking the airline’s first ever South American route as its UK expansion plans gather pace. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis will provide the Think shitstirring squatter with a cheaper service from Brook Street back to Dino Land, his fossilised HQ. Norwegian language too.
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“Often called the Paris of South America”?
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Bogotá - the capital of Colombia - is known as the Athens of America because of its high cultural standards. A visit to Bogotá would be much more rewarding than a visit Bs As.
Wow, great ticket pricing; now if LATAM were offering similar...
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +2And of the NAA connecting (passengers in transit) BUE-MPN-BUE? I wonder how much for a round trip?
That's why gordo1 does not run an airline, hahahaha. But it's good that now one can fly so cheaply from Buenos Aires to the “ Little Bangkok of Northwestern Europe”. Still irrationally expensive for me, if and when there are 2000 peso fares then I may bite.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse -2Tr0lListic_Approach - what have my remarks to do with running an airline?
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only reasons SOME people might have to visit the ”PARIS(?) OF SOUTH AMERICA would be to dine at “El Palacio de la Papa Frita” (The chip palace) and to learn to dance the much overrated “tango”. Or even a visit to the tomb of Santa Evita!
I would not go out after dark in “ Paris of South America ” too much danger.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse +1I will agree with both of you that names like “the Paris of....” are silly.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse -2As for safety, well I would walk the streets o London the UK period at this time, or go to any public gathering, or hang around any of the smaller towns if your skin tone is a shade darker than printing paper. And when I make this statement I am actually closer to the truth than the above two comments. :(
As for safety, well I would walk the streets o London the UK period at this time, etc
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse +2This does not make sense. Would you care to put it into intelligible English.
He was probably trying to say he wouldn't walk the streets of London. There's a nice comparison of crime and safety here:
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse +3https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Argentina&country2=United+Kingdom&city1=Buenos+Aires&city2=London&tracking=getDispatchComparison
The only area where BA scores significantly better than London is “Worries being subject to a physical attack because of your skin colour, ethnic origin or religion”. There isn't a 'worries about terrorism' section though.
There are some very scared men posting here. I have walked around both Buenos Aires and London after dark and survived. Phew! Look, with all cities you have to use street smarts.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse +2TTT, your comment regarding skin colour is silly when you know full well how divided Argentina is when it comes to skin colour. Do you ever think before you post?
Buenos Aires has some fine old buildings and is handsome in places but the lack of investment in the past decades has her looking rather faded and decaying. Looking up to admire the architecture is also a problem as the pavements tend to be lethal and covered in dog shit. I still loved living there - for a few months at a time, mind.
Well, I would avoid any open areas in Europe, in fact I think Europe is heading to the Second Dark Age. You will see depopulation of cities and trade grinding to a halt, people will be left underdiscommunicationated from each other, and they will become more religious (Muslim), and supersticious again.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Europe is much safer than Latin America, Trollboy, and our cities are growing, not shrinking. Why don't you come for a visit and see how wrong you are?
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@ TTT and DT
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You could do a house swap - or bedroom swap! You both have very limited experience of each other's country. You both rely on what you read online. How about it?
Lol. I think my SO would object. ;)
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All Argentines are thieves so I will spare you the grievance.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Europe is safer than Latin America? That is clearly up for debate now. The line between actual safety and perceived safety is a fine one: Argentines will talk to you about Argentina as if it were the most crime ridden place on Earth, yet the numbers show that it is about as safe as the USA in the 1980s, and that no countries issue actual special warnings, except for the usual travelling precautions. But perception can make you unsafe
I would feel totally upset going to a park, train, concert, mall, or historical site in Europe, I would be scared to death. Whether something really happens or not is secondary at that point.
In Argentina I would not even for a second have doubts about going to a concert, a park, a museum, or a movie theater. Only stadiums would give me some pause.
@TTT
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You scare too easily. That is the problem with relying on information from the internet to form an opinion - it is a false impression. You need to get some perspective and I can tell you that people are not cowering indoors in the U.K. but are out there living their lives as normal. Maybe the occupants of the U.K. are made of sterner stuff.
You have talked about being too scared to do this and that before. I give the same advice I have always given you, it is better to live a full life with a tiny risk of something bad happening than to waste your life too frightened to go out and live it.
@ DT
I am sure TTT's mother would be prepared to host you both. You have such an interest in Argentina, what an opportunity to get some real-life experience of the place. Mendoza is a really interesting place to visit.
TTT
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +2But again, you have hardly been anywhere and appear a rather timid person when it comes to physical contact with others. Statistically you are more likely to be injured in a road accident than by physical assault almost anywhere.
From this forum, all I feel is hostility to the UK from Argentine posters whom I presume are a cross section of the population who share their views. So, I cancelled any plans I had to holiday there some years back when K. and Tinman were at their most vociferous.
I feel that Argentinians are to volatile by nature and cannot exercise self control.
Meh, Argentina's not the most dangerous place on Earth, and I wouldn't be worried about going to a park, a museum, or whatever. Maybe there's some neighbourhoods I would avoid.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Crime stats show most of Europe is safer than Argentina, so if you'd be scared to death going anywhere it's your perception that's wrong and you can change that. Don't give in to your fears and let them stop you seeing the world, there's loads of awesome places in Europe and so much history to see.
I'm not doing a bedroom swap(!) but I'd be happy to show you around if you're ever in this part of the world.
@EB
Unless YOU are TTT's mother I don't think you are entitled to offer to host anyone! I am planning to visit when I get chance but I'll be staying in a hotel or hostel and I don't think the middle of winter is the best time.
@ DT
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK., don't get all indignant, in my considerable experience Argentineans are extremely hospitable and welcoming. Given how long you have been fixed to this message board I thought I was helping you get motivated to go. No need to get all defensive.
Winters are not that cold in BsAs or Mendoza but if you are going South the ski resorts would be lovely. If you have a choice then Autumn would be great if you are heading to Mendoza as it is harvest time. Summers are hot and humid in BsAs and their beach resorts are not nice at all.
Would be tough for Toby to visit the UK or Europe on his own...he hardly sounds the touring type...
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where to stay.. how to travel, what to do, better with a friend than alone...
@ Voice
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably true as he seem very afraid of anything that is not in his small comfort zone. I guess he could start by visiting some other areas of Argentina and maybe an adjoining country. Once he realises the world is not so frightening and the majority of people not a threat then he might start to view the world without so much prejudice.
The bloke is some sort of nut with some sort of disorder, surprised you lot can't appreciate that? Needs treatment - loads of head Drs in Argieland.. Attempts to treat him over the internet will fail. Perhaps we had a part in reducing him to this sorry state?
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@EB
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, no problem, I was just imagining you as Trollboy's mother. Rofl, awkward.
I would like to visit Patagonia too and that's cold even in summer. Is Spring a decent time to visit BsAs?
@The Voice
“Perhaps we had a part in reducing him to this sorry state?”
Yeah, you warped his young and impressionable mind and made him hate everything British. Ooops.
I disagree...
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +1An online persona can be misleading...
Folk say a lot of things on here, they wouldn't dream of saying in person..
He needs no treatment as everyone is a unique individual and entitled to be so...
@ DT
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spring and Autumn are my favourite times in South America and I try to schedule my trips there in those seasons but have experienced them all. Not being insulting but remember their Autumn is our Spring and their Spring is our Autumn.
Definitely try to spend some time in Patagonia. Once you have set a date ask me some more. If you can go for a few weeks I would recommend you spend a little time in Chile also.
@ Voice
There is nothing I sat here that I wouldn't say directly in person.
As I have said before, I am not sure if TTT is for real.
My impression is that Nostril used to be sharper, he has deteriorated and is now just another troll dedicated to digging up the usual anti British propaganda. Mind you a significant proportion of saddo Brits do that too.
Jun 24th, 2017 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0If one heads for Patagonia the Chilean part is best, particularly Torres del Paine, the Argentine bit is rather damp and dismal.
Travelling to anywhere in Latin America can be fraught with difficulties - for example Perú during the Sendero Luminoso threat was a difficult time for all, residents and visitors alike. At the present time Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras are at the top of the list of world murder incidents and the US recommends its citizens to be very careful. Colombia, whilst a very welcoming country, also is very hazardous for foreign visitors especially in the large cities. Mexico can be very dangerous - long journeys by car are not recommended - but visitors from Europe are made very welcome in the capital and in Oaxaca, in my experience.
Jun 24th, 2017 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ecuador and Bolivia are beautiful countries but the altitudes of their capital cities can be a health hazard.
And so on! If you feel adventurous buy a copy of the Latin American Handbook and take your pick.
@ gordo1
Jun 24th, 2017 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“fraught with difficulties”. Really? Read the Foreign Office advice and use common sense. I didn't find it difficult to travel to and within Guatemala where I stayed for a couple of months. Interestingly a lot of US citizens choose to live there because of the climate and cheap cost of living.
By all means avoid trouble spots but the only LatAm country to avoid as a tourist at the moment is Venezuela. That socialist experiment went terribly wrong.
@EB
Jun 24th, 2017 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I know the seasons are opposite, that's why I said I don't want to go now when it's the middle of winter.
It's a big country though, seems like it would be hard to fit everything in, and the same for Chile given the shape. And the internal flights I looked at are expensive. I hate planning logistics.
Also, too right there are some very scared men posting here. My friend didn't want to go to Guatemala as it was also considered dangerous back then, but I persuaded him and I'm glad I did. Tikal was my favourite place on the whole trip, and we didn't have any problems there.
ElaineB
Jun 25th, 2017 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I usually spend ay least one month each year in El Salvador so I am well aware of the need to take precautions and use common sense. My post above was directed to those who may be contemplating a first time visit to Latin America - NB my closing sentence “And so on! If you feel adventurous buy a copy of the Latin American Handbook and take your pick.” I certainly did NOT say “don't go!”
As far as travel between Guatemala and El Salvador is concerned there are frequent assaults on the highway between the two capital cities, especially on private vehicles. And the “maras” in both countries are a problem.
If the guy above is allowed to make the safety parallel between a road trip between Guatemala and EL SALVADOR, as being the same as a road trip between Mendoza and San Rafael (about same distance), then I am allowed to make a safety parallel between London and Rio de Janeiro.
Jun 25th, 2017 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Thus, avoid London that hotbed of crime at all costs!
TTT
Jun 25th, 2017 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Knowing that you are scrupulously fair and unbiased in your postings perhaps you would care to comment about Buenos Aires and Mendoza?
/www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=21427
Level of crime 73.25 High
Problem people using or dealing drugs 63.88 High
Problem property crimes such as vandalism and theft 70.66 High
Problem violent crimes such as assault and armed robbery 71.36 High
Problem corruption and bribery 87.76 Very High
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.buenosairesherald.com/article/213299/new-stats-reveal-rise-in-violent-crime
Tr0lListic_Approach
Jun 25th, 2017 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that really is the remark of a troll! I was making NO comparison with any other countries or regions, you idiot!
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