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Montevideo, November 15th 2018 - 08:20 UTC

Macri and Macron agree in most issues, but not in the EU/Mercosur talks

Saturday, January 27th 2018 - 08:25 UTC
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Argentine president Mauricio Macri ended on Friday his European tour in Paris, where he addressed the business community and potential investors, and later held a private meeting with president Emmanuel Macron. According to Argentine sources there is strong French investors' interest, but apparently Macron held his ground when regarding the EU/Mercosur overall trade agreement. Read full article

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  • Patrick Edgar

    IT SOUNDS TO ME, MORE LIKE Merco Press, does not want it to sound too much like Argentina is making good progress in bringing together Mercosur and the European Common Market. That would make Argentina look too much like the right leader in this, undermining your relentless British defamation preference, and general lies about Argentina

    “Le président français avait annoncé jeudi qu'il allait exposer à son homologue argentin les ”lignes rouges” que la France ne souhaite pas dépasser dans le cadre d'un éventuel futur accord commercial UE-Mercosur (communauté économique qui regroupe plusieurs pays d'Amérique du Sud), en particulier dans le secteur de la viande de bœuf.“
    ”Le chef de l'Etat français a également exprimé son soutien à la candidature de l'Argentine à l'Organisation de coopération et de développement économique (OCDE) et rappelé que l'agence française de développement a ouvert un bureau en Argentine.“
    ”Le président français Emmanuel Macron va exposer vendredi à son homologue argentin les “lignes rouges” que la France ne souhaite “pas dépasser” dans le cadre d'un éventuel futur accord commercial UE-Mercosur, en particulier dans le secteur de la viande de boeuf.”
    ~
    ... there is obviously a will to achieve an agreement, an identification of past unbalances, and that means that some kind of trade agreement is actively being sought.

    Jan 28th, 2018 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • golfcronie

    I have before on this forum that the French and Irish farmers would oject to the importing of beef and agricultural products being “ dumped ” on them.

    Jan 28th, 2018 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @PE
    Was it this paragraph that gave you that impression?

    ““It was an extraordinary positive event” not only because of contacts with the private sector but also on bilateral issues at government level, which did not discard in the near future an advance in the two blocks negotiations.”

    But then again, the headlines in Argentina were ever so much more positive than the one here, just look at this selection:

    “Macri no logró que Macron cediera para destrabar el acuerdo Mercosur-UE”

    “Macron dejó a Macri con las manos vacías”

    “Macron puso un freno al acuerdo con la UE, pero siguen las negociaciones”

    Is the Argentine press also in on the conspiracy, Patrick?

    Jan 28th, 2018 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Patrick Edgar

    Ya. I know... I rushed as usual. I take back my criticism of Merco Press this time . The title was accurate.

    Jan 28th, 2018 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Enrique Massot

    The truth is, Macri's visit to Macron was a failure in its essential points and DT is right to point to most Argentine headlines to show it. A suggestion for a headline would be “Macri begs but gets kicked instead.”

    Macri insists to emphasize openness in a world that is turning to protectionism. The EU will protect its producers no matter what. The result is pitiful and reflected in Argentina's increasing international trade disbalances and lack of productive investments.

    And while Macri goes begging to help his estancieros friends, he develops an economy of financial speculation, supported by massive borrowing, that as unsustainable as it were those of the military dictatorship in the 1970s and that of Carlos Menem in the 1990s.

    Jan 29th, 2018 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @EM
    I don't think it's as bad as all that. He didn't get France to give in but they probably will find a compromise. In some ways Trump will work in their favour as the EU is keen to show how different they are and that free trade can succeed by making a deal with Mercosur.

    Besides, the economy in Argentina is starting to recover from the recession, and possibly in Brazil too. A recovery in Brazil will help Argentina regardless of Macri's policies, and even if he's not spending it as you would like, he is pumping more money into the economy. The trade imbalance can be fixed by increasing exports, and that is generally something to aim for for any country.

    Jan 29th, 2018 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    Patrick Edgar

    Many PSYCHOTIC Argentines like you are unconscious Francophon racists and don't even know it as says an increasingly accepted body of academic opinion based on international studies. You've repeatedly demonstrated being homophobic, PSYCHOTIC, anti-Anglo and suffering from delusions of Iberian-Argentine grandeur, with your English language composition skills being absolutely atrocious!
    “Le président français avait annoncé jeudi qu'il allait exposer à son homologue argentin les ”lignes rouges” que la France ne souhaite pas dépasser dans le cadre d'un éventuel futur accord commercial UE-Mercosur (communauté économique qui regroupe plusieurs pays d'Amérique du Sud), en particulier dans le secteur de la viande de bœuf.“. ”Le chef de l'Etat français a également exprimé son soutien à la candidature de l'Argentine à l'Organisation de coopération et de développement économique (OCDE) et rappelé que l'agence française de développement a ouvert un bureau en Argentine. ”Le président français Emmanuel Macron va exposer vendredi à son homologue. Why is it you tend to dwell a lot about homosexuality and persecution of the Catholic Church? Are you still insanely suggesting the majority of us here don't know the truth! What an outrageous insult against our moral conscientiousness! Despite our offers of an olive branch of peace and enlightenment, you brusquely deny the awareness of truth! You would be surprised to see just how swiftly an Argentine would STEAL someone's property being when he has absolute no claim. We've shown you an infinite patience and we certainty find ourselves severely disappointed in your stubbornness to accept truth. To remind you once more, Argentines are a very KLEPTOMANIAC violent society based on corruption, FAR inferior to its neighbor states of Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay and Brazil. Frankly you mistakenly deflect the truth by answering through a different interpretation what we have already said, look in a mirror and see!

    Jan 29th, 2018 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Patrick Edgar

    ... pobre tipo. ... pobre hijo. :(

    Jan 29th, 2018 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    PE
    I can easily match your rubbish with the same...

    Try writing something intelligent and comprehensible...

    Jan 29th, 2018 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Patrick Edgar

    That would be entirely wasted on you ! Why would I want to do that !!

    Jan 30th, 2018 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    All

    Check “Falklands' Dictionary of Biographies”

    In a recent post, “BrianFI” has exposed Patrick Edgar as an North American that was living in Hawaii, pretending to be Argentine. “He recently tried to move to Argentina but was deported having failed to get a work permit. He has numerous convictions for drug use and related crimes and this has clearly addled his mind, that is why he rambles on like a madman. The only reason he is on here is because he was banned from Facebook for making homophobic comments. How do I know this? He used to be an active member on some Falkland pages until he was banned for being homophobic, this is all public knowledge...”

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    @Chicureo

    “Argentines are a very KLEPTOMANIAC violent society based on corruption.”

    What an incredible statement.

    You may be upset at another commentator here, but this does not give you the right to insult a whole country's population. I would submit that among the millions of Argentines you will be able to find all sorts of people, from very good to real bad ones--no different from Chile, Brazil or Uruguay.

    I would strongly encourage you to withdraw that statement.

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    success ! aaahahahaha . ahora ven al “shilenito” lol
    This is essentially way education should proceed money, and not the other way around.

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Enrique Massot

    In earlier posts I've mentioned that I have Argentine friends and have enjoyed several vacations to Argentina.

    I sincerely withdraw the accusation that “Argentines are a very KLEPTOMANIAC violent society based on corruption.” I apologize for any offense taken.

    I was facetiously baiting Patrick Edgar's loquacious nonsensical anti-Anglo statements he's continuously inundated us here outrageous arguments I didn't expect many would take as serious.

    Brian has made me realize that Patrick is just not of sane mind and I'll change my rhetoric accordingly.

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Patrick Edgar

    ... uHúh

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @EM
    Now that Chicureo has so gracefully apologised, don't you think Patrick Edgar should do the same for his MANY MANY insulting accusations of British people? Typical example:

    ”But You're all crazy still the same! Look. I know your personality style. I know it because I can compare it through my own life experiences. You relish morally in-dignifying and belittling people degrading them (after you have targeted them as an enemy of course) until you succeed in convincing them that you are better than they are. That's your trip. Not very nice people.”

    D'you think he has the right to insult a whole country's population like that?

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    alright . Soooohrryyyyy...
    Fair enough. I don't know any of you at the personal level. Except the ex Chilean who thinks he has now “out evolved” his roots. lol :)

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    @Chicureo

    Well, apology accepted and I appreciate your gesture. Our discussion levels in this forum may improve as a result. Generalizations are tempting, and I have found myself confronting some of my country people who also fall into the habit of demeaning our neighbouring countries.

    @DT

    I see I came too late to respond to your post because Patrick has already said sorry and justifiably so. I will say that I am against targeting any country's population because is a red herring that diverts from having any meaningful discussion. I will no doubt have much more in common with many British citizens than I would with compatriotes such as, say, Argentine minister of energy Juan José Aranguren or even my distant relative, congressman Nicolás Massot.

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @EM
    Glad to hear it. Unfortunately Patrick's apology is not worth much since he has continued right on with his ridiculous and over the top accusations and insults aimed at Britain. I don't like hearing it any more than you like seeing Argentina insulted. (And Marti did that so much it even started to bother me.)

    But none of us can change our relatives. It's not your responsibility.

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    @DT The mark of good Citizenship and a great People who steer their nation and are not simply led by it, is of a country that knows how to call on its errors and mistakes or faults at the moment they occur, not in hindsight.

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    And which country do you think that would be?

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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