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Argentina organizing Falklands charter for relatives of newly identified remains at Darwin cemetery

Friday, February 2nd 2018 - 00:28 UTC
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The Argentine government is organizing a trip to the Falklands with relatives of the 88 combatants buried in Darwin and whose remains were recently identified by a team on international forensic experts, following a humanitarian agreement between UK and Argentina, and Falklands consent, and implemented by the International Red Cross Committee. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    Only willing to allow charter flights when it suits Argentina?

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • FitzRoy

    Hahahahah! Nicely said, Roger! It is strange the way they work. Get excited about a medevac flying into Uruguay and protest, but expect FIG to just rubber-stamp a charter flight (banned by Argentina) into the Falklands. I hope they don't bring that bloody rag with them and they behave themselves. On the other hand, it may spark them into repatriating their dead, and giving them the dignity they deserve. And, by the way, there are no Argentine war dead buried in Darwin Cemetery, (they can't even get the location right).

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Brit Bob

    The Falkland Islands - Part of Argentina's imaginary territory...

    Escude´explained that the intensification of ''territorial indoctrination'' had a snowball effect. It began in 1947 and by 1979 Argentinians were already mentally conditioned to go to war, if necessary to protect a particular image of the national territory. The image taught to two generations of Argentinians was that the national territory was composed of two parts: ''the continental territory'' and the ''imaginary territory'' and the imaginary territory made up of the ''Antarctic region'' and the ''ocean islands''.

    Falklands - Argentina's Imaginary Territory (1 pg):- https://www.academia.edu/35715281/Falklands_Argentinas_Imaginary_Territory

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Clyde15

    Have they approached the Falklands government on this matter or do they think that they can go ahead on their own ?

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. FitzRoy...

    You say...:
    ”Repatriating (our)dead, and giving them the dignity they deserve.”

    I say...:
    Them boys are in their Patria..., me dear Kelper...
    And we Argies all agree that the highest dignity they have truly earned is resting in that piece of windblown Argentine Insular territory...

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    Only a fantasist would believe that “those boys are in their Patria” Think. But then you are an Argie.

    Those boys are dead and gone - rather like Argentina's pretensions. Argentina's spurious claims lost. Argentina has no move. All there is, is Sisyphusean repetition.

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/2011-2017-referenda-repetition/

    Feb 02nd, 2018 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Clyde15

    Think

    You say that but you are wrong. Keep on wishing.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    I think he's right about one thing. They are not going to repatriate those soldiers.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • FitzRoy

    You say that, Think, but they are empty words. The only dignity afforded the Argentine war dead was the burial, with full military honours, given them by the British. Argentina has never really shown them any respect at all, have they? They are used as a political tool at every opportunity by an Argentina that expects another country to pay for the upkeep of their graves. The very least that Argentina could do is allow the families to bring their war dead back home, like any decent, well-mannered country.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. Fitz Roy..., me dear Kelper...

    1) Them boys are not leaving their Malvinas tumbs...

    2) The Argentinean claim to get the United Kingdom out of the South Atlantic will continue until that former Colonial power withdraws..., as it already has from ~99% of its former Colonial possessions...

    3) You Kelpers are a little archaic remain of that British Colonial past...
    The time when you British could just tell the rest of the World...:
    - We are British citizens...
    - We want this or that..
    - Bugger off...
    Is over...

    Get used to it..., lad...

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Conqueror

    Think

    I wonder why you call yourself that when you obviously don't. Here are some obvious “thoughts”. how will argieland get these so-called “relatives” to the Falkland Islands without the agreement of the Falkland Islands Government and the United Kingdom? Assuming that some acceptable means of transportation is found, who says that the “relatives” will get any further than the (air or sea) port of arrival? If the so-called “relatives” carry anything that the Falkland Islands Government considers unacceptable, what is to stop them being held in detention until their departure transportation is available? It seems that the so-called “relatives” want to go to places other than the cemetery. Can you say what legal obligation the Falkland Islands Government might be under to permit nationals of a hostile state to do that? Do you think that some Islanders might be inclined to take down signs and fencing surrounding argie-laid minefields? Now that the Red Cross has done its bit, is there anything to stop the Islanders digging up the remains, taking them to sea and tossing them overboard? Just to have a perfect response if argieland ever tries to “claim” anything on the grounds that there are bones buried in what will never be an argie “patria”.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Jo Bloggs

    At least one family of a soldier buried in the Argentine cemetery has requested that they be allowed to bring their son’s body home. What a terrible shame it would be if Argentina’s nensensical web of propaganda prevents that poor grieving family of their rights.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    Would you please be so kind to inform this humble Patagonian the name of the “*** family of a soldier buried in the Argentine cemetery that has requested that they be allowed to bring their son’s body home...***”

    Auld and technically unsavvy as I am... I can't find no reference of that family nowhere...

    I thank you in advance for your valuable help...
    EL Think...

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think. I most certainly will not tell you the name of the family for two reasons. 1. I don’t know it (but my source through which I learnt about the request is impeccable; and 2. you’re forgetting I’ve already told you, I wouldn’t give you the steam off my shit.

    Also I make 2 observations from your post: 1. You act as though you are in some position that ordinarily affords you knowledge of such a request; and 2. If point 1. is correct, you would most likely use access to that sort of information to put a poor old grieving family ‘in their place.’

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Also I'll make 2 observations to your post..., me dear Mr. Bloggs...:

    1) You tell us that you have an UNDISCLOSED source that has NOT informed you NOTHIN' about that...: ***“ Argie family of an Argie soldier buried in the Argie cemetery in Malvinas that has requested that they be allowed to bring their son’s body home...***” other that HE SAID TO YOU that there it is an...: ***” Argie family of an Argie soldier buried in the Argie cemetery in Malvinas that has requested that they be allowed to bring their son’s body home...***”...
    IMPECCABLE..., indeed...

    2) As far as I am aware of..., the only next of kin of a fallen soldier of Malvinas that ever wanted his son's corpse back from them windblown Islands was Sr. Isaias Lenin Gimenez..., a man of strong convictions....
    That was way back in the late eighties... Sr. Gimenez died more than 10 years ago...
    Pleeeeeeeeeeeease..., stop telling Porkies, Mr Bloggs... It is kind of pathetic..., ya know...?

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think. Time will tell. This latest request is as a result of the family receiving confirmation from ICRC that their son’s remains are indeed in the cemetery.

    As for whether you believe me or not, I couldn’t be less interested.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Dearest Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    I want to believe you...But you don't make it easy for humble me...

    If one family of an Argie soldier buried in the Argie cemetery in Malvinas had requested that they be allowed to transfer their son’s remains from Insular to Continental Argentina..., they MUST NECESARILY have requested it to the Argie authorities...

    No such request has been presented or filed nowhere any Argie can find it...

    Or are you maybe trying to tell us that that alleged “poor grieving Argie family” is planning to row back to Argentina..., with British permission..., with a body bag in the kayak...?

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    “The Argentinean claim to get the United Kingdom out of the South Atlantic will continue until that former Colonial power withdraws...”

    Till hell freezes over then Think?

    All Argentina can do is mutter under its breath. No-one is listening. No-one cares. The EU gave up on Argentine in 1989 and that sovereignty-umbrella is forever. Waste of time. Waste of breath.

    Still, it's your time and your breath.

    Feb 03rd, 2018 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Roger... lad...

    https://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2016/01/hell-norway.jpg.1000x0_q80_crop-smart.jpg

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    I'll give you that one

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    ;-)

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • FitzRoy

    Oh dear, Think, you don't actually live up to your name, do you. It is true that families have requested that they bring their sons/brothers' bodies home and in spite of what you think, they don't actually have t check in with you to do this. You're not actually as important as you like to “think”. In reply to Conqueror's comments: Last time there were two of these charter flights, they got off the plane, had their passports stamped, exited the terminal and got on buses and were driven to the Argentine Cemetery. They didn't go anywhere else. They did make a nuisance of themselves, graffitiing and sticking government-sanctioned plastic signs in the car-park and waving their flag, however. I imagine this one will be no different. None of us will pay them the slightest bit of attention, so all their flag-waving and posturing will be wasted. After that, they shall get back on the aircraft and leave.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why would the family need permission from the Argentine authorities? Is it not up to the family where their relative is buried?

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DT
    Because the Argentine government has total control over the buried soldiers and having them there makes a strong political statement.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Fitz Roy..., me dear Kelper...
    You seem to be “under the influence” of the same “IMPECCABLE” information source as Mr. Joe Bloggs...
    Maybe you will be soooo kind to tell us the surnames of those...: ***“Argie families that have requested to transfer their sons/brothers' bodies to continental Argentina without having to check in with the respective Argie administrative instances to do so”***

    Mr. DemonTree...
    Jupppp... You have all reason to be sorry for your stupid question...
    -You are not even allowed to built a restraining wall higher than 4 feet on your own backyard without requesting permissions from your guvernamental administrative instances...
    Just try to transfer the mortal remains of your grandparents to..., lets say..., Dunoon, Alba... without the necessary authorizations of the respective authorities...

    Hermanito Shileno...
    ALL governments have ALWAYS used their dead cannon fodder to make political statements...
    You know it..., I know it..., and certainly..., them freaking Engrish pirates know it...
    That's why in the 80es..., they opened all the Argie graves all around them Islands and reinterred the Argies remains in one final KZ lager at Darwin...
    Their final scope has always been very clear...
    The expatriation of all Argie remains...
    They won't succeed...
    El Think...

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Clyde15

    -You are not even allowed to built a restraining wall higher than 4 feet on your own backyard without requesting permissions from your guvernamental administrative instances...

    In what country OR geographical area does this apply ?

    My neighbour built a six foot high boundary wall between our gardens...he checked with our local council and no planning permission was required.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Ok..., lowlander
    You got me there...

    - You are not even allowed to built a restraining wall higher than*** 6 (six) feet *** on your own backyard without requesting permissions from your guvernamental administrative instances...
    Just try to transfer the mortal remains of your grandparents to..., lets say..., Dunoon, Alba... without the necessary authorizations of the respective authorities...

    Happy now...?

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Clyde15

    I am neither happy nor unhappy. I just could not understand the reason for that statement in the context of your post.

    As to removing someones remains, it seemed obvious to me that official permission would be required.

    I can remember when I was in charge of Customs procedures at the Esso Oil depot near Glasgow when the body of a dead Norwegian sailor was landed. The paperwork was a nightmare especially since his body had been preserved in formaldehyde

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    I thought it might be something like that, but I don't know what the laws on burying people are in England, let alone Argentina.

    Now a hopefully less stupid question. Would the 'Argie authorities' generally make such a request public? Or would they only do so if it involves one of the soldiers buried in the Falklands and they wanted to pressure the family not to do it for political reasons?

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    Just because I happen to know...
    2m metre wall or fence as long as it is more than 10m from a public/adopted road...
    A retaining wall, if it is holding earth in position at 2m may need permission because the construction of a retaining wall is more complicated and needs to withstand hydrostatic pressure...
    ...technically everything is subject to planning if the council insists, they just allow certain things under what is phrased... permitted developments...

    Isn't it wonderful when a post comes along that is within one of my areas of expertise...
    It's made my day...
    Hell, it may have even made my week...yay...;-)

    ps...I don't know about England but, in Scotland one can bury ones folks in ones garden if that is ones wish...

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    There are several actors involved in this South Atlantic “Use of dead cannon fodder to make political statements” process...

    Each one takes care of its own interests..., as did the Engrish Foreign & Colonial Office during the eighties and nineties financing (with your tax monies) the above mentioned *** Sr. Isaias Lenin Gimenez *** trips to occupied Malvinas and his lobbying for the transfer of his son's remains to the continent...

    IMHO... If there were today any...:
    ” Argie families that have requested to transfer their sons/brothers' bodies to continental Argentina without having to check in with the respective Argie administrative instances to do so”***...
    I am SURE... , MercoPress would luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv to inform us about their plight...

    Don't you Think...?

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    THINK

    In all cases, we're posting about the remains of young soldiers fighting for their country and whether they remain or are transported to their homeland should be treated with the highest respect as all war dead should be. Their families should be respected.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Shicureo...

    In any case..., we're posting about the remains of young soldiers who fought for their country and which remains should be treated with respect as all war dead should be....and not being transported nowhere yet another time.
    Their families wishes should be respected ad well..
    As they are...

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    THINK

    I have no argument with that. I'm just commenting that IF one of the families wish the return of their fallen sons to the Argentinian mainland, it should be respected. Some people want all the dead to be removed, which I think would be highly disrespectful, reprehensible and uncivilized.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    I'd never heard of this Gimenez, and there's not much on the internet. It says he flew from Argentina to the Falklands via London to see his son buried, because there were no communications with Argentina after the war. It wasn't my tax money back then, but if they spent it letting a grieving father see his son buried, I can't say I'm too upset. Did he succeed in bringing his son's remains home?

    “I am SURE... , MercoPress would luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv to inform us about their plight...”

    I'm sure too, but the FIG might rather keep it quiet if that improved the chances of it actually happening. However, even if a few families might prefer it, I don't expect to see anything come of it.

    Anyway, I agree with Chicureo's last comment.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    A Shilean, an Engrishman And an Argie are on agrerment then...

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    The answer, Clyde 15, is Thailand .......... Not only did I need the local council's permission, they got the landowner next door to sign their agreement. But then, as next-door had put up a house half a meter too close to the boundary, they didn't have much choice :-)

    Something of a digression - soo sorry.

    Feb 04th, 2018 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Voice...
    Always a pleasure to give the best half of our pantomime horse duo the opportunity to learn all of us some Scottish Councilliar Building Regulations...;-)
    Those are the small things that make one's day...yay...;-)
    Ps...If one can bury ones folks in ones garden in Scotland if one wishes..., doesn't that present some interesting challenges when selling the house...?

    Mr. Roger Lorton...
    Luckily... you are an expert in good neighbourly relations..., aren't you ;-)

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Six foot high walls always help Think. They may need to be higher in the case of Argentina.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    A higher than six foot WALL against us Argies... huhhhh? What a BRILLIANT Engrish idea..., lad...
    You must consider us mighty foes though... Your last one was just about 3 feet tall...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GR6Jcp_vYVg

    But..., as 13 of the last 20 years of Engrish primeministerial history have learned us..., peace, luuuv and integration are the key to good neighbourhood between diverse folks...;-)

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    That one wasn't ours, Think. Built by the Roman occupiers.

    Having well defined, undisputed borders is another key to good neighbourliness, unfortunately.

    It's off topic, but is it true that Tillerson's trip to Latin America is an attempt to drum up support for action against Maduro?

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Integration Think? You may have to think again :-)

    Walls are useful. Physical or otherwise.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    Them Romans were the Engrish of that time...

    Besides..., Hadrian wasn't no Roman... He was a Spaniard...

    And..., as anybody that can read can conclude..., Tillerson's trip to Latin America is an attempt to drum up support for action against Maduro..., Putin and Xi Jinping....

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Surely you mean the Americans of that time? There weren't any English back then anyway.

    And Hadrian was a Spanish Roman, like you're a Scandinavian Argentine.

    PS. I hope they tell Tillerson to F-off.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree..

    Soooooooooooooo...

    You Engrishman hope we Latinamerican brownies tell Tillerson to F-off...

    Whilst you Anglo Engrish continue rimmig your Anglo Yank cousins aggresive NATO policies...

    Do something against it at home..., boy..., like them sweet lasses at Greenham Common once did...

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    “we Latinamerican brownies”

    Lolwut. You're a Scandinavian, the palest of the pale, Hitler's wet dream, etc.

    And what can I do? Those camps didn't persuade the government to give up nuclear weapons, they weren't even the reason the missiles were eventually removed. The protest against the Iraq war achieved nothing and our government didn't even learn enough from that mistake to stay out of Libya.

    Plus now that we're leaving the EU, they're going to be even more keen to suck up to the US. >:(

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    “Your sweet lasses at Greenham once did.”

    It may have started as that but gradually changed into a “woman's” rights movement with a fair sprinkling of lezzers rights ! I was down there for the last IAT show at Greenham and camped at Newbury Racecourse and saw many of these “sweet lasses”. Many were right bruisers and man haters, others were away with the fairies dressed up like fairies or pixies and living in squalor. Tents festooned with “dream catchers”

    The result of their protests was that it had nothing to do with the removal of cruise missiles.
    It was the realisation by the Soviet Union that their economy was collapsing and they could not afford arms escalation. The Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 1987, led to the removal of all nuclear missiles from the base and its closure in 1991

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    Them sweet lasses (including Hazel) won Greenham common at last...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yypJ_Gja0Fs
    Ergo Est Demostratum... ;-)

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    No puedo ver videos de Youtube en la oficina. :(

    @Clyde15
    Sounds like Glastonbury. Did you talk to them?

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Ever thougt of using your own privately paid smartphone to keep with company rules but still be on..., lad.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    Sí, pero necesito trabajar, no jugar en mi smartphone. También no me gusta los enlaces a Youtube porque no se conoce qué va a ser.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    CON mi smartphone...

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Not really. We got a lot of flak from them for being “war mongers” etc. I had my 8 year old son with me who felt a bit intimidated so I kept my mouth shut....unusual for me !

    Others going to the show were a bit more forthright. I would not repeat some of the replies but I remember someone saying that “a bar of soap would not cost them much.”

    There were some women who you could respect for their opinions who could put up a good argument. However, as time went on it attracted the loony fringe of the great unwashed and unemployable who made them a bit of a laughing stock.

    I think some of them moved up to Faslane for want of anything better to do.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Jaja, escribí eso primero y entonces lo cambié.

    I didn't realise how much prepositions make no sense even in English until I started learning another language. And also damn those idiots in the government who decided we didn't need to learn any grammar at school. Why does everyone think it's a wonderful idea to randomly experiment with children's education?

    @Clyde15
    “There were some women who you could respect for their opinions who could put up a good argument. However, as time went on it attracted the loony fringe of the great unwashed and unemployable who made them a bit of a laughing stock.”

    Yeah, I've seen that happen. It's a shame.

    I actually learned about that protest in school but didn't realise it had gone on so long or ended so recently.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    DT

    You learned about that at school ! Makes me feel like Methuselah !

    There were cases where protestors broke into the base and headed for the nuclear bunkers.

    A dodgy thing to do as our American cousins can be a bit trigger happy. Some RAF police were accompanying the American service police which probably defused the situation somewhat. Our security can be a bit low key.

    I visited visited Cambrai French Air force base for a Tiger Meet in 1984..I think.

    The area covering the taxi ways and the hangars had an outer fence 2.5 metres high topped with razor wire, an inner area about 20 metres wide and another fence the same as the outer one. Entrance was by security gates manned by armed guards. What I learned later was that the inner area was a mine field with anti-personnel mines. Quite effective security.

    At Faslane I believe the guards have authority to shoot persons breaking in and heading for the nuclear bunkers. I would not want to put this to the test.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Lol. We did history of the Cold War. As I recall it started with a quick recap of the Russian revolution and the differences between Communism and Capitalism, and went right up to things that happened in my own lifetime like the fall of the Berlin wall and collapse of the Soviet Union. There was the Berlin airlift, lots of proxy wars, the Cuban missile crisis, an arms race and a space race, an explanation of MAD, and the campaigns against nuclear weapons. I particularly remember this cartoon, though weirdly it was in colour in my memory:

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6e/c0/b7/6ec0b7f3687af424154c57ed05b971b5--nose-art-political-cartoons.jpg

    Wikipedia says the protesters at Greenham Common climbed over the fence and danced on the missile silos for hours, so the guards can't have been that trigger happy. I wouldn't want to try breaking into Faslane either, though.

    Feb 05th, 2018 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • JC68

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Feb 06th, 2018 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    By the way...
    Happy 100th. birthday to you all..., ya sweet Engrish Suffragettes ;-)

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    It's hard to believe that attitudes have changed so much in only 100 years.

    I just found out it was Evita who campaigned for women's right to vote in Argentina, and it was within your lifetime. That's kind of crazy.

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Beth

    You might have added that she campaigned for the old age pension as well. The difference is that in Argentina citizens can vote for candidates for the offices of president, senator, congressmen and women, state governors and state senators and legislators. So how long have women had the right to vote for the president of the UK?

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Clyde15

    Beth

    We don't have a President in the UK so they could not vote for one. Neither can the men !!

    A president has more power than any UK politician OR Prime Minister. That's why we don't want one. Next question ?

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    I would like to see some reforms of our system, especially the House of Lords, but I definitely prefer parliamentary democracy to a presidential system. When the US became independent, they modelled their new Republic in several ways after the then UK system, and back then the King still had a lot of power, so they created an elected office to hold that position instead of a hereditary monarchy.

    That was a big improvement at the time, but IMO there are better options now. Having a separate head of state and head of government is nice, and the parliamentary system doesn't hand so much power to one person. Plus it reduces the chance of ineffective governments. Of course, you can have a president and still use a parliamentary system like Ireland and Germany, but if we do decide to get rid of the royal family, I vote we replace them with an elected or appointed monarch. That way we don't have to change the name of the country. ;)

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    Beth

    'vote for President of the UK' - hilarious!!! Obviously a product of the 'world famous' Argentine educational system.

    I can't stop laughing - 'vote for president of the UK' - hahahahahahahaha

    er...it was a joke wasn't it?????

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Lynn

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Feb 09th, 2018 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @Think

    ”By the way...
    Happy 100th. birthday to you all..., ya sweet Engrish Suffragettes ;-)”

    You'll be wanting, like I have done to celebrate Antonina Roxa from BA then, allowed to stay by the Britsat Port Louis in 1833. A great female gaucho who chose to be British, recommended by Lt Smith in 1834 to be rewarded for her skill of cattle raising, who ended up owning her own ranch near Stanley, dying in her beloved Falklands in 1869. A great example of 19th century Falkland multiculturalism, though I assume she couldn't vote, not every wife of a mutinous Argie murderer, ends up chosing to be British. making a great success out her life and becoming a respected businesswoman.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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