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Falklands government comment on a reported visit to the Argentine Cemetery

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The Falkland Islands elected government has reacted to a raft of reports from Argentina announcing a trip to the Islands, sometime in the second half of March by the relatives of the 88 soldiers, buried at Darwin cemetery, which have been recently identified by a team of forensic experts working under the International Red Cross Committee. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    What Argentinian officials trying to ignore the islanders?

    They do have form for it:- On a visit to London, Mr Timerman. Arg. Foreign Minister, claimed the United Nations only acknowledges two parties to the sovereignty dispute - the UK and Argentina. He told a news conference: ”The Falklands islanders do not exist. What exists is British citizens who live in the Islas Malvinas...'' (Argentina: Falklands Islanders 'Don't Exist' Sky News 6 Feb 2013).

    Thankfully the invaders were defeated in 1982. Do the Argentinians even understand what it means to have sovereignty?

    Falklands – Argentina's Sovereignty Aspirations (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/34583696/Falklands_Argentinas_Sovereignty_Aspirations

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • golfcronie

    Pssst FALKLANDERS this visit is secret, you should not have heard about it until it happens. Also getting near the anniversary of the invasion by Argentina of the FALKLANDS on 2nd April 1982

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Roger Lorton

    Official Press Release here - https://us8.campaign-archive.com/?u=2abe0425e0c8db5d48bd90c90&id=536a611b14

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • FitzRoy

    These folk just can't get it right can they? There are no Argentines buried in Darwin Cemetery!

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    If the government of Argentina wanted better relations, they could try notifying the FIG when they are planning things like this, rather than leaving them to find out from the press.

    I can only imagine how much less they'd care about anyone on the islands if they did have sovereignty.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • GALlamosa

    There is a flight every month from Rio Gallegos to the Falkland Islands for purposes such as this. They could have come today. That would be the way to have a private visit and grieve for your lost relative. FIG should put its foot down and stop being soft......there is no need for an Argentine Government organised and sponsored jamboree.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Grant

    Just another example of the 'We do what we want' attitude of them. Hurry up and introduce the visas!

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    No, the FIG shouldn't put their foot down. It's a humanitarian visit so they can finally put names on the headstones of their dead sons, brothers etc. They all found out their identify together, it's right that they do this together too.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Marti Llazo

    So the D-Tree thinks that Argentistan should be able to do anything it likes so long as it's under the guise of a “humanitarian” visit?

    How very revealing.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Roger Lorton

    This 'humanitarian' visit has been waiting for 35 years, so there's no skin off anyone's noses if it's put back a while. Together with other events happening at the time proposed it would have been a media scrum.

    It can wait until the FIG see an appropriate time. Argentina have blocked all other charter flights, so they can await the FIGs decision on this one.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    Ermmmmm...
    Sorry to ruin your party..., lads...

    But the pertinent Argie authorities are in contact with the pertinent British occupation authorities about this issue...

    What is it you say in Engrish...? ...: “Speak to the organ grinder not ghe monkey...” right...?

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -10
  • Roger Lorton

    Quite correct Think, the “pertinent” authorities being the Falkland islands Government who retain control of flights entering their land. The FCO have no authority over that.

    Looks like someone leapt before they looked as there was already contact between the FIG and the relatives.

    Didn't you read Natasha?

    “According to what Clarín learned, this dialogue took place on Wednesday at the residence led by British Ambassador Mark Kent. And it was through a multiple telephone call between the eight councilors of the islands and the president of the Commission, María Fernanda Araujo.”

    Someone jumped the gun, and now the FIG has postponed the visit - as it has the right to do.

    Try to learn the difference between organ grinders and Monkeys Think.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +9
  • Think

    Rodge...you gullible man...
    You still believe in Natasha..., laddie...?
    As credible as Chailai Buppha - Soi6 - Pattaya...;-)

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Roger Lorton

    Nope, but I do believe my contacts

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @ML
    Don't be such an idiot, of course I don't believe that. I think the FIG should agree to this specific visit because it's perfectly reasonable (as long as it's not planned for the 2nd of April), but the Argentine government should have discussed it with them before telling the press.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -12
  • Think

    Rodge... it is you that must try to learn the difference between organ grinders and monkeys...

    The pertinent Argie authorities are in contact with the pertinent British occupation authorities about this issue... I repeat

    And poor UK ambassadeur Kent is doing his best to put them Kelpers in line...
    Even organizing a phone conference between the FIG(leaf) and sweet Maria Fernanda Araujo... a private Argie person...

    Chuckle chuckle...

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Kanye

    Marti

    “So the D-Tree thinks that Argentistan should be able to do anything it likes so long as it's under the guise of a “humanitarian” visit?

    How very revealing.”

    Not as revealing as DT's suddenly acquired Spanish fluency that he announced recently.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    I have alluded to it before but I believe that Demon Tree is extraordinarily sympathetic to Argentina. Can't see why?

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    ROFL, I wish. Learning another language is HARD, and it's taken a long time even to acquire what little I know now, which Gordo1 and Marti can tell you is not at all fluent.

    Besides, I'm sure you can continue to get by with google translate. Did you understand Think and Marco's conversation in the other thread?

    @Gordo1
    No, I'm ordinarily sympathetic to Argentina. Most people here are heavily biased one way or the other, I try not to be.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    I haven't alluded to it before but I believe that Mr. DemonTree is quite possibly a sockpuppet of that cunning Nazicommiejewmuslim Mr. THINK...
    I THINK we better hang..., drown & quarter him....
    Just to be on the safe side...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • DemonTree

    No molestes Kanye, ya es bastante paranoico.

    Además, solo pueden realizar eso si peso lo mismo que un pato.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Think

    ... lo mismo que un pato..., o un Uilliam Uallas...

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    Eso sería 'hung, *drawn* and quartered'. Así:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcoVxbutl8g

    Tambien, no pienso que 'molestar' es la palabra correcta. Queré decir 'tease'.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    Don't ya get semantic wih ya puppet master..., laddie...

    (Uhhhhh... Them paranoid Anglo Turnips will luuuuuuvthis one ;-)

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    Was what I wrote correct?

    (I'm sure they will. It's bloody stupid if you ask me.)

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    I repeat Think .... the 'pertinent' authorities with regards to flights to the Falklands are the FIG. As Argentina is now discovering.

    Feb 10th, 2018 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..., nooooooooooooooo....
    I just discovered that the 'pertinent' authorities with regards to public pissoirs in the Falkland/ Malvinas are the FIG(leaf)....
    Where shall this auld prostatic Patagonian pee...?
    (I Think I just spotted a nice red cabin...;-)

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    Full of piss and wind Think?

    Hardly surprised - you are Argie (1st generation) after all.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Think

    :-)

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • gordo1

    Demon Tree

    “No, I'm ordinarily sympathetic to Argentina.” How can you be at all sympathetic to Argentina? Their constant claims to sovereignty of British territory is surely enough to provoke a total lack of understanding of their constant posturing!

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @Gordo1
    I think the posturing is pretty silly, but hating everything and everyone in the country would be way over the top, and not very constructive either.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • gordo1

    Demon Tree

    “Hating” is NOT a word that one often sees on this forum. Disagreeing with them on pretty well everything connected with the Falkland Islands to the point of making fun of them and/or ridiculing them is surely acceptable. But being “ordinarily sympathetic” towards them is bordering on treason! They are an extraordinary nation! Viz. Oxford Dictionaries “Late Middle English: from Latin extraordinarius, from extra ordinem ‘outside the normal course of events’.”

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    If Mr. DemonTree is bordering on treason..., I vote to have him 'hung, *drawn* and quartered'..., just in case...

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • DemonTree

    @gordo1
    Bordering on treason, seriously? That's exactly the kind of over-the-top view I'm talking about. What's so extraordinary about Argentina? Would you say the same about any country we've ever been at war with?

    As for hating, how about Conqueror? His hateful and often racist screeds get plenty of upvotes, so clearly people agree with him. And stupid ideas like requiring visas for all Argentine tourists or even banning them completely get plenty of support too. It's a good thing the people in government have more sense.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Pete Bog

    @ Think

    “Speak to the organ grinder not ghe monkey...” right.

    That'll be the Director of Civil Aviation in the Falklands.

    There is little point in talking to London, about a flight that isn't planned to land in London.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    “Secret” rumors or “secret” reality....?

    Say good bye to your weelkly flight to Punta Arenas, Chile with a monthly stopover at Rio Gallegos, Argentina..., Kelpers...

    Say hello to your weelkly flight to Sao Paolo, Brasil with a monthly stopover at Buenos Aires, Argentina..., Kelpers...

    https://www.infobae.com/politica/2018/02/09/argentina-y-gran-bretana-avanzan-en-un-acuerdo-para-que-haya-vuelos-buenos-aires-malvinas/

    Geeeeeeee....
    I know a couple of hundred Shilenos that won't be very happy if this rumors are real...

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Vernya

    Oh they are just trying to prove that the Falklands is Argentinean territory and, therefore, they have the right to send people there to visit the graves. FIG should react by saying that they are welcome, provided they first seek approval from them

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    It's an extra flight, not a replacement, Think.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Geeeeeee...., boy...

    You know much about the airline business...?
    A destination of 3,000 inhabitants in the very end of the world with 2 weekly commercial flights...?
    The one that exists today operating at under 50% capacity during ~8 months of the year and costing a minor fortune...?
    How many weeks will the current Punta Arenas route survive if this new competitor materializes...?
    The 400 pesos in my purse says 18/24... , at most... Leaving all them brownie Shilean toilet cleaners in a dilemma...

    Tuff luck for them...

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    I presume they wouldn't have asked for an extra flight if there was no demand. Is it only supposed to run in summer?

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    You presume, Mr. “Stanley”..?
    Try to “Think” a little bit..., instead...
    Where could all that “Demand” come from...?

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Tourists. I guess São Paulo would be a more convenient connection for visitors from N America and Europe.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    I hear that LanChile were consulted early on Think, and are “laid-back” about the prospect of a further flight to Brazil, with a weekly stop-over. Although BA as the stop-over was rejected by the FIG I'm told.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    I luuuuuv when them Engrish try to keep their stiff upper lip against all logic and mathematics...

    Or should we call it stiff upper face...

    Naeeeeee... I THINK I better call it stiff upper torso....

    Chuckle..., chuckle..., rechuckle...

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    Whatever. I don't know how much demand there is, but I do know the FIG asked for the flights; they must have some idea what they are doing.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jo Bloggs

    There is plenty of demand. LATAM were ready to start their own second flight without any enticement/ subsidy from FIG about 15 years ago but the Argentine Government refused to allow it. Whilst the passenger numbers drop off in the off-season the cargo payloads help to offset them; and from October through March two flights would be at full capacity. at this time of year we can get no freight because of passenger demand. Airlines operate to seasons which are pretty fixed the world over so it’s more than realistic that the second flight MAY only be a summer one: October through March.

    Anyway, who is to say the second flight will be competition to LATAM? Apart from a rumour.

    Feb 11th, 2018 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Roger Lorton

    The FIG did push for a further flight, despite the move remaining controversial within the territory. Many Islanders recognise than an influx of more Argies will lead to more problems.

    The FIG wanted a flight to Brazil only without any stop-over. It is only Argentina preventing that. They really cannot stop interfering in something that simply does not concern them.

    Any stop-over in Argentina will have to rely upon Argie tourists as it seems unlikely that any islander would wish to go there.

    Stiff upper lip has nothing to do with it Think. LanChile were consulted and remain in the loop. If their flights were thought likely to cease as a result of competition involving a stop-over in Argieland, I have little doubt that the FIG would abandon its plans for Brazil.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    No doubt that if I was elected MLA in Malvinas..., I would warmly favour a connection through Sao Paulo over one over Punta Arenas...
    And I would do it in the full knowedlege that it would surely mean the closure of the Punta Arenas route...
    Which I wouldn't miss for a second..., 'cause I'm no Shilean toilet cleaner from Magallanes...


    Mr. Jo Bloggs
    I luuuuuuuuv the way you convert a four months summer season in a six months half year season...
    October to March you happily write...
    31st. of October to 01st. of March... I would add...

    Chuckle..., chuckle..., rechuckle...

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    I see that you still hold as low an opinion of your Chilean neighbours as they hold of Argentina.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Anything wrong with being a toilet cleaner my tory brummie cop...?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Only in your opinion it seems

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    It seems you presume wrongly..., copper....

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Typical Argie - attempting to show that black is, in fact, white LOL

    You'll be telling me next that your reference to “Shilean toilet cleaner from Magallanes” was not meant to be derogatory.

    And then get indignant when I can't stop laughing.

    For an old man Think, you can be very childish.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Laddie...
    You and your childish copper techniques...
    Your faux indignation makes me laugh...

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    While everyone laughs at you

    ;-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Pffffffffft...

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • mishmashbash

    For someone who thinks low of supposed Chilean toilet cleaners it seems that border crossings from Argentina are a regular pay day Punta shopping treat for you dependant Argie parasites lol!

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    TWIMC...
    Ermmmmm...
    Sorry to ruin your party..., again..., lads...

    But this article is not about those ~200 Shilean toilet cleaners employed and underpaid by them Kelpers that..., because of this new route..., probably will have to travel some 6.000 km and pay their yearly savings to visit their parents in nearby Punta Arenas...

    This article is neither about the ~50 (and growing faaast...) Filipino mail order brides that will be more than happy with this new route which will greatly facilitate the legal family-tied immigration of their gook husbands..., children...and pimps...
    (I'm sure Mr. Roger Lorton will support me on this one.... He warmly defended the positive cultural aspects of Asian prostitution to Caucasians during a debate we had yeeeeears ago... You nearly described it as a Win-Win situation..., didn't you Rodge...?)

    Neither is this article about the possibility this new route could open for them Kelpers to take their more than fair and deserved share of Venezuelan refugees...
    You know..., the type of uniformed heroes that throw grenades against parliaments and civilians from an helicopter...
    Those whom MercoPenguinPress has dedicated four or five Eulogic and moving articles in the quite recent past..., remember...?

    This article is just about the pertinent Argie authorities being in contact with the pertinent British occupation authorities about the issue of a new air route to and from Malvinas from the continent...
    A piece of information that..., apparently..., isn't worthy of being reported by the MercoMalvinasPress tho its core squatting readers...
    .... THINK about that..., Kelpers dear...

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    Asian prostitution Think? You lost me there. Can you produce this fantasy conversation?

    Seems I got under your skin :-)

    Glad to know that.

    And you still can't get it right. The 'pertinent' authorities for flights entering the Falkland islands is the Falkland islands Government. They have the right of veto, so only they can decide. It was also their request in the first place, so, although the FCO may be doing the talking, it is the FIG that are telling them what is acceptable.

    Senility setting in old man?

    :-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Rodge..., me dear Copper...
    We had that conversation in 2010 or 2011...
    In your goooooooooooooooood auld Pattaya days...
    Before the Missus decided to transfer to the countryside not to lose her Farang..., remember...?
    How auld are you now..., lad? Around sixty...? All too early for Alzheimer... Get checked for VD's lad...
    Some of them can seriously impair your memory and judgement..., have I read somewhere...;-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    Think, if they just wanted a more convenient flight they could have asked LAN to switch theirs from Punta Arenas to Santiago. Surely that would have been easier to get Argentina to agree to.

    I hope you don't think there's anything wrong with cleaning toilets, cos I know some people who've done that for a living. And where is this supposed conversation you had with Roger?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    We've had a lot of conversations Think, but as I've been with my missus for 12 years now (11 of them wed) and we've been “up country” for nearly 5 years, I have no memory of which conversation it was.

    Past 60 now. Valedictory Despatches? Sent mine on retirement some 14 years back. Didn't know they could cause memory loss mind.

    Keep reading Think ..... you may actually discover some facts.

    Sorry to hear that you have as low a view of ladies from the Philippines as you do of Chileans. Didn't the idea of 'mail-order brides' kick off in the American west during the 19th century? Still, love moves in mysterious ways Think .... sometimes it moves quite far.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    1) Just look at the map (or ask businessman Joe Bloggs)...
    The absolute most convenient air connection for them British squatting Kelpers in Malvinas is..., without a shadow of a doubt..., Sao Paulo Brasil...

    2) Since a couple of months..., MercoPress searching engine has ceased to function for me...
    I get the following error message...:
    “Unauthorized access to internal API. Please refer to https://support.google.com/customsearch/answer/4542055”
    And the support link ain't no supportive at all...

    I'm worried though for our Copper in Siam... He is too young to have lost it already...
    That would though explain his biased wiews... ;-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    Most convenient for going to Europe perhaps. They already have a flight to the UK though, I thought the weekly flight to Chile was supposed to give them access to South America. São Paulo is a heck of a lot further away than Punta Arenas too, will they need a bigger plane?

    I'd never even tried Mercopress's search function, too much experience of shitty website searches, although apparently they were using google search anyway. That support link is for the website admin, not you. You could try reporting the bug, but I just use google to search, by typing in eg:

    mail order brides site:en.mercopress.com

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Lost what Think? Forgetting an obscure conversation from half a dozen years ago. Was it really worth remembering? Shall we have it again?

    Biased? Of course. As biased as you are. This conversation started with an attempt to educate you on who was the organ grinder and who was the monkey concerning flights, which you still haven't grasped. London don't give a .... err, monkeys about another flight, that was something requested, controversially, by the FIG. Ergo, they make the running on that subject. Easy enough even for an old Skandie with arrogant views towards Chileans and eastern lasses.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Thanks.., you web savvy Engrish lad...
    Will try that...
    Pip pip

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • golfcronie

    Tinkle, you must be up all night on this forum, why? All you do is argue with people who have opposite views to yours, you Christ sake Grow a pair.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    I suspect that I got under Thinks skin and he's had a bad night. He's now desperate to find something to have a go back at me with. He'll be disappointed, but old men need something to do between trips to the loo. Leave him be ;-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    I was looking at the comments on that article Think linked to. Two Falklanders posting in English, including this exchange:

    “Taff Davies
    The remarks of many of you argentines are disgusting, racist, nasty, and violent..!
    By all the gods under this sun, I am so bloody glad I'm a Falkland Islander with about 300 miles of Atlantic Ocean seperating us, and not one of you..
    I was born lucky..!”

    “Ezeq Deregibus
    Did you ever read Mercopress? The comments from the Falkland islanders sound exactly like the comments from any stormfront forum...”

    And one Roger Lorton posting in Spanish. Should Kanye should be suspicious of you, too?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    You've lost me DT. Maybe I'm having a bad day. I haven't looked at the link. Who is Kayne? Why should he be suspicious? What is wrong in using my truly awful Spanish?

    Taff, as a volunteer, stood with a rifle in Stanley throughout the night of April 1, 1982. He wasn't sure that he'd live through the next day. I fully understand his attitude.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Rodge...,Rodge...

    I haven't been desperate for decades now...
    One of the positive sides of being a grown up..., I reckon...
    Allow me just to tell you that..., in the last many years..., I have been increasingly confronted by my ageing acquaintance circle with excuses as... : “Just forgot an obscure conversation from half a dozen years ago..., it ain't important Don Think...”
    I THINK it can be...
    Get it checked..., laddie...;-)

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    Never mind, I guess you didn't read the whole thread. Kanye is an overly paranoid poster here who thinks that my 'suddenly acquired Spanish fluency' is revealing of something or other.

    I don't see anything wrong in using your truly awful Spanish (if it is, I certainly wouldn't be able to tell). Better than commenting in English on a Spanish publication. 

    But my point wasn't Taff's comment, but the impression that Mercopress gives to readers from Argentina, or anywhere else. Stormfront is obviously an exaggeration, but it's still not pretty.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    Get what checked Think? So far, all I have is your word that this conversation took place.

    DT - Mercopress is based in Uruguay I understand. Perhaps they don't appreciate their neighbours either ?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    Perhaps not, but I was referring to the comments. Those are not made by Uruguayans.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Think

    Allow me just to tell you..., me dear Rodge that..., in the last many years..., I have been increasingly confronted by my ageing acquaintance circle with denial after denial about their failing memories....

    Get your memory checked..., laddie...
    Your memory checked..., laddie...
    Memory checked..., laddie...
    Memory..., laddie...
    Capisce...?
    ;-)))

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - There is a Spanish Language version of MercoPress too, although I rarely take a look. There are always two sides to every coin, and if you cast about you'll find enough Argentine news outlets with similar comments sections. Infobae is one of the more recent.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    Yeah, the Spanish version hasn't allowed comments since the site redesign, it's annoying cause it would have been a good place to practice.

    Youtube comments are the best/worst, after watching some videos about the Falklands I now know more insults in Spanish than anything else. But if the Falklanders hope to ever persuade anyone in Argentina to see their side of the story, they might want to try and give a better impression.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Roger Lorton

    I suspect the islanders gave up on that idea long ago. They've been getting hassle since the early 20th century. The Argies have not proven themselves to be listeners.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Jo Bloggs

    I’d be interested to read who the regular posters on here think the Falkland Islanders amongst them are and which ones need to improve the impression they give. If anyone could be so kind as to give their views, I’d be most grateful.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    I would be most happy to oblige and respond to your very polite request but..., as you repeatedly have said that this auld and humble Patagonian Argie doesn't deserve even the steam of your shit..., I'll better abstain...

    A nice Stormfront heil to you..., me dear Engrish supremacist...
    El Think

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    How's the hunt for that that mysterious conversation going Think? Sure you didn't just dream it?

    JB - any vitriol from Islanders is, IMHO, perfectly understandable after so many decades of Argentina attempting to steal their land. I won't attempt to identify any on here; it's rather up to them to shout up if they wish to. Their 'impression' comes from the heart, so it is honest and therefore not in need of improving.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Hmm, I'd say you, Islander1, FitzRoy, GALlamosa, there's probably a couple of others I've forgotten. And I was being a bit unfair, because none of you are the ones who give the worst impression, but I doubt random Argentines reading the site know the difference.

    I do agree with Roger that any vitriol is understandable, but that doesn't make it right to blame every person in Argentina, or wise to suggest banning them or requiring visas when that's the price of your flights to S America.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think

    Well, let me think. Was it your continual blatant racism, or perhaps the time when you proudly boasted, in the persona of doveoverdover, that your son was based at Mount Pleasant and was ‘very busy improving the local gene pool’ ? Or perhaps it was something else but, rest assured, it’s you personally who makes the bile rise in my throat. I take everyone as they come and you’re the only regular poster on here whose unworthy of the steam from my shit.

    Always happy to chat with someone whose sole purpose on MP isn’t to troll, lie and manipulate.

    Credibility check anyone?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Visas are a requirement throughout most of the world when visiting a foreign country. They do not have to be expensive, and in many cases 30 day visas are both automatic and free. That said, I believe that the Islanders decided against the imposition of visas on Argentine tourists and opted for a black-list instead, whereby those that offend will be refused entry on any further occasion.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

    As much as I would luuuuuuuuv to take credit for making your gastric juices boil..., it would be unfair against that intelligent Scottish officer & gentleman under the DoverOverDover seudonym...

    Diamo a Cesare quel che è di Cesare...
    Capisce...?

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Jo Bloggs

    DT

    You need to try not to generalise. I don’t blame every Argentine, I don’t think we should ban them, I don’t think they should require visas and I don’t care if our next flight link also has to stopover in Argentina. I have friends in Argentina and I have no issue with most of the ones who live here. They ones I do have an issue with is nothing to do with their nationality.

    There isn’t much I can do about what others post on MP post or that Argentines or others cannot tell whether they are from the Falklands or not. I am disgusted with what some from both side post on here.

    Feb 12th, 2018 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Sorry, you're right. There are some reasonable people here, and I suppose it's impossible to get rid of the unreasonable ones. I am also disgusted with what some on both sides post.

    It's what your government says that really matters because they represent you, and I don't see anything objectionable there.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • gordo1

    For all who are interested - I am NOT from the Falkland Islands. However, I identify totally with them as fellow Brits and will not bow to any nonsense from Argentina over its pretences to sovereignty of the British territories in the South Atlantic and Antartica. The lies, myths and fairy tales Argentina uses to try and justify its claims are nothing more risible nonsense.

    I must also confess as a Roman Catholic that I don't even think too much of the current Pope who in the past has been most vehement in his support of Argentine's fatuous claims.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Conqueror

    @Demon Tree. What's your problem? Of course I hate argies. I can start with 266 reasons covering each one of the British service personnel that died in the course of taking our territory back from an excuse for a country that executed a sneak attack and occupation on the basis of a “claim” that it can't prove. I can add to that another 775 reasons for each one of the British service personnel that were wounded. Plus 3 Falkland Islanders that could have lived for many more years but for argieland's failure to comply with the Hague and Geneva Conventions. Then I can add on an indeterminate number of reasons for every time that argieland lies. And many more reasons for every child it brainwashes into believing that the Falkland Islands goes under a different name and really belongs to argieland. Then there's another indeterminate number of reasons based on how many bits of lying propaganda it disseminates.

    And I wouldn't allow any argies to visit the Islands for the purpose of going to the graves until argieland admits, publicly, that its “claim” is invalid, withdraws all its promoted UN resolutions on the subject, changes its constitution, changes its education curriculum, apologises, publicly, to the Falkland Islanders and the British people and pays an acceptable level of war reparations.

    It's worth noting that, over time, places like France, Germany, Italy, Portugal and, to some extent, Spain have admitted that they were wrong and have apologised. Portugal even apologised enough to become an ally. A fact for which Portugal remains grateful.

    I suppose that it's conceivable that, in a century or two, argies may grow up enough to be considered adults. It's also conceivable that, over the same period, they will learn to be ashamed of their actions. Including their theft of the land on which they live and make reparations to the people from whom they stole.

    Even via television, it was hard to sit and watch invaders. Argies have a lot to apologise for.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • DemonTree

    @Conqueror
    “What's your problem?”

    Stuff like this, that's what:

    Originally posted by Conqueror:
    ”Step 1. Expel argieland.
    Step 2. Refuse to trade with argieland.
    Step 3. 'Recognise' argieland as a corrupt, criminal, genocidal, larcenous, mendacious, murderous state to be removed from the international community and the UN.
    Step 4. Try to find a way to differentiate between argies and scum. Projected time scale 2,000 years.
    Step 5. Teach argies to tell the truth. Finance suitable persuasive methods. Baseball and cricket bats. Live grenades dropped into underpants. Impalement. Lashes until the spine is exposed and cut. Reverse-xenophobia. Everyone spits (at least) on argies. Any argie can be killed anywhere, anytime. Open season. Sorry. Hunting season!”

    Plus the fact you want to use grieving relatives as pawns in the dispute, when most of the men who died were conscripts and didn't even choose to fight.

    @Jo Bloggs
    Thinking about it a bit more, there is something you can do. If you disagree with what other people have said then you can comment and say so; that way more than one view is represented.

    And you employ some Chileans in your business, right, so presumably you would want the flights to Punta Arenas to continue?

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Step 3 certainly resonates with me. At one time or another Argentina would seem to have been all of those.

    As for the use of grieving relatives; Argentina has proven itself adept at that. If they'd taken the bodies back in 1982, none of this would now be occurring. The presence of an Argentine military cemetery on the Islands helps prolong Argentina's propaganda.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Jo Bloggs

    DT

    You took the words out of my mouth. As soon as I saw Conquerer pop up I knew that I would, once again, point out on here that I disagree with the majority (vast majority) of his views and vulgar nonsense. ...and I have pointed this out many times. So I read his post and it didn’t let me down. Conquerer, if you are trying to support the pro Falklands/ British cause, do us a favour and fuck right off.

    Three or four years ago I was a very regular reader and contributor to MP but I’ve grown tired of it. Back in those days I was quite vocal against Conquerer and others on both sides who have rolled out their BS phobias and hatred. I’m sure Conquerer could vouch for that.

    I have been reading and posting on MP for around about 8 years I guess. I started off using my real name which was a big mistake. My name is also in the phone book and a Google search of it brings up numerous links that lead straight to me. Let’s just say I had some unpleasant phone calls and that for some reason the Argentine ones always seemed to come after midnight. Mrs Bloggs was not impressed. So then I gave it a rest for six months and created Joe Bloggs. I used that for about 3 more years and then changed jobs and had much more important things to do for about a year until I got it all under control. One day I went to log back on and realised I couldn’t remember my account details. So I created Jo Bloggs and haven’t changed since.

    Throughout that time I have alway pointed out posts that I think are wrong on both sides, especially if I think they cross the line. Think and Conquerer both cross the line. In a way I think Conquerer is less harmful because he wears his emotions on the outside from the the word go. Think is much more devious and calculating. They are both just deadbeats though.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    If the UN threw out all the states who had ever been any of those things it would be a very tiny and insignificant organisation.

    And if you have such a poor opinion of Argentina then I hope you don't believe it is okay to copy anything they do.

    @JoB
    Glad to hear it. :)

    It sucks that people were harassing you in real life, I don't blame you at all for changing your name. Isn't Argentina on the same timezone as you? Must have been drunk students or unemployed layabouts.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    We’re more or less on the same time zone with Argentina throughout the year. I had the impression that a lot of the calls were drinking and dialling calls ...and in fairness to the callers, Latinos in general tend to stay up much later than us Gringos. I on the other hand, generally hit the sack early, even by Gringo standards.

    I have spent a few extended periods of time living in South American cities with locals in their homes and I could never get used to them trying to drag me out for a night out, on a work night, at about 11or 12.

    Feb 13th, 2018 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Going out at 11 or 12 on a work night? When do they sleep? I might have done it when I was younger, but certainly not now. I know people stay up late in Spain but they have siestas there so it's different.

    Did these callers speak English or were they ranting at you in Spanish? I guess you could just hang up, but still.

    And were any of these cities you lived in in Argentina?

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    The UN cannot be described as tiny DT, but IMHO it is increasingly insignificant.

    What do you think I would be copying?

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jo Bloggs

    I couldn’t manage it and they soon gave up on me.

    The callers spoke Spanish and English and were very abusive. I used to hang up but they would call back over and over until I took the phone off the hook. Then it would go quiet for a few days and start again. It dried up pretty quickly when I stopped posting. Today’s news is tomorrow’s fish n chips paper and all that.

    I spent most time in Santiago, Vina del Mar and Punta Arenas in Chile; about 3 months in total and a couple of weeks in Buenos Aires and Ushuaia in Argentina. All staying with friends or work acquaintances. Apart from those occasions I’ve spent many weeks in hotels on holidays and work trips in Chile, Lima and Argentina but the experiences (hotel vs. home-stays) were like chalk and cheese.

    I have some good friends who live in Argentina and they are ashamed of their government’s views on the Falklands. One of my friends, Alex, posts on here but of course I won’t reveal his nickname. He only posts on MP about as regularly I do, perhaps less.

    It’s all part of life’s rich tapestry.

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Lynn

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • gordo1

    Lynn - tell us why “England” would want to do that!

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    “The UN cannot be described as tiny DT, but IMHO it is increasingly insignificant.”

    Do you think that's a good thing? The League of Nations was ineffectual and look how that ended up. Besides, you're dodging the point, which is that the great majority of countries have done things that could easily be described in those terms.

    Do steps 4 and 5 also resonate with you?

    “What do you think I would be copying?”

    The use of grieving relatives. But I said I hope you *don't* want to copy them.

    @JoB
    Lovely. I know there are some crazy people out there but that is totally unacceptable. I'm glad it ended once you stopped posting with your real name.

    And I just wish more people here agreed with you; Conqueror's latest comment has got plenty of upvotes.

    ”the experiences (hotel vs. home-stays) were like chalk and cheese”

    I'm sure you're right. Visiting a place on holiday is very different to staying with friends. I'd like to try living in another country for a while, but my SO doesn't, unfortunately.

    And now I'm really curious who your friend is, but I won't ask. ;)

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • LEPRecon

    I was hoping that the Macri government wouldn't resort to such childish tactics as this. It's disrespectful to those that died and disrespectful to the people of the Falklands.

    Unless the Argentine government speaks directly to the FIG then this flight will go exactly nowhere.

    The families of these young soldiers should tell the government to stop politicising the deaths of their sons (all the fault of previous Argentine governments) and instead start supporting them properly, and not on the odd occasion when they 'think' they can make some political gain out of it.

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    Demon Tree pseudonym

    “@RL
    “The UN cannot be described as tiny DT, but IMHO it is increasingly insignificant.”

    Do you think that's a good thing? The League of Nations was ineffectual and look how that ended up. Besides, you're dodging the point, which is that the great majority of countries have done things that could easily be described in those terms.

    Do steps 4 and 5 also resonate with you?

    “What do you think I would be copying?”

    The use of grieving relatives. But I said I hope you *don't* want to copy them.”

    You are so true to form, now challenging Roger as though he is in lockstep with every extreme point of a different and completely independent poster.

    You are very much like some other Argie posters in the past who used the 'what about so & so' argument.

    Just because others were unethical in the past, does not mean it is acceptable to knowingly behave unethically or maliciously today.

    I know it is a bit obtuse, but surely you can take your head out of your ass once in a while.
    Roger is probably the most knowledgeable AND reasonable poster on here!

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    “Just because others were unethical in the past, does not mean it is acceptable to knowingly behave unethically or maliciously today.”

    That was exactly my point, and what I was asking Roger to acknowledge. And I think HE is knowledgeable and reasonable enough to respond for himself, and to understand that I don't believe he is in lockstep with the likes of Conqueror.

    And if you really believe that line, then why are you attacking me and not Conqueror? Or do you think banning people from visiting the graves, not to mention such things as “Lashes until the spine is exposed and cut.” and “Any argie can be killed anywhere, anytime.” are ethical behaviour?

    PS. “some other Argie posters”? That's just sad.

    Feb 14th, 2018 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    DT -

    I try hard to differentiate the Malvinistas from the sensible Argentines, but the latter are heavily outnumbered. They do exist, indeed I converse with a few and have been aided in my research by some. Their voices are drowned out sadly by the nationalists, Peronists, and those simply brainwashed from birth.

    As for teaching Malvinistas to tell the truth, I have come to the conclusion that the task is impossible. They are raised to see the world, and history, in a particular fashion. That it is a distortion of history is not easily overcome. I recently saw a piece about Argentine children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up. How mad is that?

    I have no intention of using the genuine grieving families in any political manner. However, many of the Argentine visitors to the Islands are trying to make political points with the flag raising, graffiti and disdain for the Islanders. That will be impossible to stop while Argentina is so prepared to use the military cemetery as a political icon. Another flight with a stop-over in Argentina will undoubtedly increase the problem.

    Some days I am not sure what is ethical.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    I don't need to try hard to differentiate them AngloTurnips from the sensible Anglos..., luckily the latter heavily outnumber the former... I converse with a few of them in here as in Engeland & Alba and it is always a pleasure... Their voices are drowned somehow by the vociferous Nationalists, Falklandists and those simply brainwashed from birth...

    As for teaching Anglo Nationalist-Falklandists to tell the truth..., I have come to the conclusion that the task is uphill... They are raised to see the world, and history, in a particular fashion. That it is a distortion of history is not easily overcome... I recently saw a couple of wars and invasions waged by Anglo Nationalists... How mad is that?

    I have no intention of using the genuine grieving families in any political manner. However, many of the Anglo Turnips are trying to make political points with the flag waving..., vandalism & desacration of tombs and religious symbols and disdain for the war dead buried at the Argentinan military cemetery in Malvinas..., a true icon for us Argentineans ..., indeed...

    And..., just to finish..., lad...:
    I haven't have one day in my conscient life were I wasn't sure what is ethical...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Konrad Kurse

    “I recently saw a piece about Argentine children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up. How mad is that?”

    Do you have a link to this piece?

    That they are encouraged to consider another military usurpation, that's crazy.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Por old Nazi Colonialist anti British troll above cant Think up a response so he does a cut and paste job. You couldnt make it up!

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    As Mr. Konrad Kurse above I would also luuuuuuuuuuuuuv to have a look at that...: “Piece about Argentine children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up...” of yours........

    May we have that link..., Copper...?
    Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease....

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    Who are the Malvinistas? People who throw rocks, people who go to the Falklands, paint graffiti and harass the Islanders, people who make offensive posts on twitter, or anyone who believes Argentina's claims? I think the latter heavily outnumber the former, and people who believe what they have been taught are not lacking in sense, that's normal.

    I was going to ask for a link to this school address, but I see other people already have.

    I agree another stop-over in Argentina would increase the number of visitors, especially if it's somewhere more convenient like Buenos Aires. More tourist money for the Islanders but more aggro too, ultimately it's up to them what they want.

    And unlike Think, I am also not always sure what is ethical. However, it is often very obvious what is not ethical; I'm glad you agree with me about using the families.

    @Think
    “I haven't have one day in my conscient life were I wasn't sure what is ethical...”

    It must be nice to always be so sure that you are right... I have not found things so straightforward.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Boy...

    I have NEVER said (or believed) that I am always sure that I am right...

    I have NEVER said (or believed) that I always have done right...

    I just said that I have always been sure what is ethical...

    To very, very different things...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    My conversation regarding the school was private and I shall keep it that way. Believe or not, I really don't care.

    Ethical?
    Is it ethical to ignore the islanders rights to decide their own future Think?
    Is it ethical to blockade their economy and attempt to steal their territory?
    Is it ethical to denigrate their wives?
    Is it ethical to look down on Chileans as toilet cleaners?

    I doubt you'd recognise ethical if it kicked you up the arse Think.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    “I recently saw a piece about Argentine children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up.”

    That wasn't strictly true then, rather someone told you this as a story. Did they witness it themselves or was it something that happened to a friend of a friend?

    @Think
    How do you know you are right about what is ethical and what is not? People disagree all the time.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Well... Rodge....

    First you write...:
    “ I recently SAW A PIECE about Argentine children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up.”
    Now you write...:
    “MY CONVERSATION regarding the school was private and I shall keep it that way”
    How mad is that...? I ask...?

    About ethics...:
    1) I am not ignoring them British Squatting Kelper rights..., laddie...I am abundantly on record in here about that...
    2) There is an officially registered ongoing dispute about who's territory's it is..., laddie...

    3) i am not denigrating no wifes..., laddie...
    I am just making quite clear that those poor Filipino girls are being bought by fat, ugly, old, unwashed British males for an average of £ 20,000 from pimping agencies forbidden by law in the Phillippines...

    4) I am not looking down at no Toilet Cleaners..., Shilean or otherwise..., laddie... I meself have cleaned plenty of such in a long gone past...
    I am just making quite clear that those Shilean Toilet Cleaners employed and grossly underpaid by them Kelpers are facing a problem when the Punta Arenas air link becomes redundant due to a mucn better product as the Sao Paolo link undoubtly is...

    Capisce..., laddie?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    It would be mad to betray my confidences. It would also end them. I have asked for permission but I suspect it's a little too close to home.

    If there was an ongoing dispute, there would be ongoing resolutions from the UN General Assembly. But the matter was settled in 1989/90 and now there are none. Indeed the matter is officially forgotten once the Argie reps at the UN have had an opportunity to vent their spleens. A sham for consumption by the Argentine people. Mushrooms.

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/wp-admin/upload.php?item=4081

    Your attempts to defend your indefensible position on foreign wives and Chileans is risible Think. As for “fat, ugly & old” ...... yet again your prejudices shine out.

    As I said, ethical you aint.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    “I am just making quite clear that those poor Filipino girls...”

    Is any of that remotely true? We only have your word for it and you don't live there or know any of the people concerned.

    “I am just making quite clear...”

    Evidently untrue. By calling them toilet cleaners you are trying to imply other things, and accidentally implying yet more.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Me dear Engrish ex-copper...

    You may keep your “secret informants” for yourself...Their “information” is as valuable as yours...
    First you declare...: “I recently saw a piece”
    Then you change to...: “My conversation”
    Any rookie copper would destroy you in an interrogatory..., laddie...

    About them fat, ugly, old and unwashed Kelpers traffiking female human beings from Asia to them windblown Malvinas Islands as maids and virtual sex slaves...
    I don't know them all... but I know plenty of them fat, ugly, old and unwashed Kelpers..., many of them boasting about their “good buys” on social media...
    Maybe you can correct me and “put me in my place” by linking to any lean, handsome, young and good smelling Kelper that has bought an Asian woman...?

    Just a couple of links will do...
    Just one... Pleeeeeeease...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    The 'piece' I saw was part of a conversation Think. How complicated can that be?

    “About them fat, ugly, old and unwashed Kelpers traffiking female human beings from Asia to them windblown Malvinas Islands as maids and virtual sex slaves... I don't know them all... but I know plenty of them fat, ugly, old and unwashed Kelpers..., many of them boasting about their “good buys” on social media...”

    Good buys? Boasting?

    By the way, did you ever remember anything more about that previous conversation that you imagined?

    Allow me to repeat my self, you bigoted old man, you wouldn't recognise ethical if it kicked you up the arse.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Why don't you link us to these “fat, ugly, old and unwashed Kelpers” boasting about their “good buys” on social media? You are one accusing them of something.

    @RL
    What kind of 'piece' are you talking about? If it's online then why don't you just link to it without mentioning who showed you?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You ask..:
    “Is any of that remotely true? We only have your word for it...”

    I say...:
    As usually lad..., I encourage you to THINK amd DYOR...
    You could start reading the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) Census 2016...
    50+ Filipino girls bought to the islands since 2012...
    Roughly about 2% of the Islands civil population...
    Would percentually amount of buying ~600,000 young Filipino girls into Britain...

    By the way... I live much closer to Malvinas than you..., lad...
    Have been there quite a few times... and know both Argie and Engrish Kelpers... Very mice people all of them...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - I cannot now find the piece that started the conversation. It may have been removed. I have left a message for the originator but at this time he's undoubtedly at work. If I get a response I'll let you know.

    You asked me earlier about Malvinistas. Think is the perfect example.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Erratum...
    Where I wrote...:
    “Very mice people...”
    Please read...:
    “Very nice people...”

    ;-)

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    The noxious anti British Nazi Colonialist Troll's bigoted views and agenda clearly revealed.

    Filipino girls are lovely people, there have always been many Filipino nurses in the NHS, sweet caring ladies welcome in our country. Argentina is a melting pot but often seems to be one of the most racist countries on the planet. Dont be an Indian there and certainly not black.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    Ok. My obfuscation was due to doubts about the images of schoolchildren. This is a sensitive issue in the UK and I was concerned that it was the same in Argentina. It would seem, less so.

    The originator responded. I had no doubt that he would. In conversation he mentioned that some of the children had talked about invading the islands when they grew up. The 'piece' that had started the conversation was attached to a photograph of children dating back to, I'm now told, 2010.

    The full link passed to me is here - http://elaulaenlared.blogspot.ca/2010/04/

    Indoctrination? I'll leave you to form your own opinion.

    I suspect Thinks racist fears are founded upon the possibility that all those foreign lasses will produce children, until there are 10,000 kelpers all with the right of self-determination. I hope his fears are well founded.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    If you've really seen people boasting about this on social media, then link to it. That would be convincing, a census that only lists the number of people is not. It's no different to Roger's 'piece'; you brought it up, you find the evidence.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...
    Your “Originator” or may be even you..., seem to be full of horse manure...
    On the school link you just provided one can find..., for example..., a text from some fifth graders saying...:
    ”The wind makes the sea batter her coasts (Islas Malvinas) and they give us the sensation of being solitary and avaiting the opportunity to reapproach us (Argentina)... BUT WITOUT WEAPONS OR WAR...“
    One can also find a representation of some six graders of a little piece called...:
    ”The Agreement..., a dialogue between (Argentinean) mate and (British) tea...“
    *** NOTHING WHATSOEVER*** of any ”children giving an address in school where they talked about invading the Islands when they grew up....”

    Mr. DemonTree...
    I repeat... DYOR...
    After having constated an highly unusual increase in imports of certain Asiatic female human product to the thinly populated Malvinas Islands during the last four years... you may continue with FACEBOOK...,a excellent place to find what you are asking for...
    And don't try to make me believe you don't know how..., you Internet savvy rascal...
    Linking directly to them fat, ugly and unwashed human flesh buyers in them windblown Islands would be beyond my morals...

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Didn't I mention a conversation Think?

    Argentina's indoctrination of its children. Undeniable

    As for your racism, that's also a given. A true malvinista you are Think. A sad old man, shouting into the wind.

    There is no dispute. That matter was settled long ago.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... copper...

    You Engrish hire and underpay Shileans to be your toilet cleaners... and I am the racist...?

    You Engrish buy young Asian women from some pimps... and I am the racist...?

    What wil be the next accusation against this humble Patagonian...?

    Chuckle...chuckle..., rechuckle...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    Thank you for providing the link. I see indoctrination, yes, but nothing about invading the islands when they grow up.

    @Think
    And you have still not provided a link. I'm not going to chase after wild geese for your amusement, I reckon your 'good buys' on Facebook have about as much evidence as Roger's 'invade when they grow up'.

    'You Argies' hire Bolivian illegal immigrants to clean your toilets, and your police beat up the native Indians and kill protestors. So who is racist?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    You ask...:
    “So who is racist...?”
    I say...:
    Both...?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    No. I'm not racist, or no more than everyone is. You can't accuse a whole country because of what a few people do, and it's even sillier when it's stuff you basically made up. Besides which, they're not English anyway.

    But you do appear racist at times, whether you intend to or not.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    “ Good buys ” ?? Are they leaving?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    The next accusation Twinkle? How about this?

    Argentina is largely a Latin country populated by invaders from the Club Med nations. Why would anyone from Scandinavia emigrate to Argieland - answer… because they are fleeing something like many Nazis did after WWII. The Norwegian legion was a unit of the Waffen SS comprised of Norwegian traitors that sided with the Nazis. Argieland was a well known refuge for Nazis.

    Was your Dad a member of the Norwegian Waffen SS. I ask because you appear to share many of their characteristics including hating the British, wanting to colonise their territory, wanting to eject tbe population and cheering on your comrades who locked up women, old people an children in unsanitary conditions at Goose Green in contravention of the Geneva Convention? A well as other crimes like booby trapping kids toys and laying unrecorded minefields everywhere.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... I'm gooooooooooood...!!!
    I just made some sixty young Filipino women in Malvinas up...!!!
    Wonder how I convinced them to move to Malvinas and how I got them their residence permit...?

    And by the way you Engrish people...
    In Spanish..., we do..., by historical convention..., call all Brits for English...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    No denial then…. Figures!

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Well then, you should be making sure to call Nicola Sturgeon and Robert Burns English also.

    And showing us how and why they moved there is exactly what you haven't done. One of my friends married a woman from Indonesia, she certainly wasn't a mail order bride. Another was married to a Colombian and she wasn't either.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Yet again... an Engrishman denying basic mathematics and keeping an stiff upper torso...

    Amusing...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Sigh. I'm not denying the numbers, I'm denying your completely unjustified assumptions which you claimed to have evidence for and don't.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Nothing wrong wih mail order brides especially in a place with a small population. It makes perfect sense. Marriage can make two people very happy and the Filipino family back home benefit from a more comfortable life.

    And, that assertion coming from an evidently noxious person who has left a trail of failed marriages, and no doubt a clutch of very unhappy women and children behind him, its laughable!

    Serial failure Twinkle… you aint qualified…. Laddie

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Boy...

    Fact is that ~60 young Filipino Women without any academic, technical or practical education or any other relevant feature or quality other than being young Filipino Women... have been bought, imported and permitted into the Malvinas/Falkland Islands during the last 4-5 years...

    If you want to know more about that issue..., you can find out about it...
    Everybody in Malvinas knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    If Jo Bloggs comes back I will ask him, but you claiming to have ever-so-clear evidence and then not producing it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    You do that..., you lazy Engrish lad...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • The Voice

    Fact is, women of any nationality other than Argies are a sensible choice, otherwise the Beast of Brook Street and his mates will be trying to use Argie offspring in their attempted land grab.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • saphira

    DT there 56 Filipinos on the Falklands , 33 male and 23 Female hardly the 60 mail order brides of Thinks fevered imagination.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Thanks, Saphira. Is there a reason for the recent increase?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    I am not sure what you mean by recent increase some have been there for ten years, I am not a Falklander I just downloaded the Census report it's all on there.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Twinkle turnip… failed again!

    Chuckle chuckle?..

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    As usual a Think has put his own unique spin on this.

    “Fact is 60 young Filipino women without any academic, technical or practical education... or any other relevant feature or quality other than being young Pilipino women have been bought,...”

    Absolute rubbish.

    Fact, there are upwards of 60 Asian men and women here from various countries including Thailand, the Phillipines, Malaysia, India and Pakistan (and most likely other Asian countries). The vast majority are here on work permits in jobs such as sales assistants, cooks, teachers, doctors, engineers, etc. On the other hand there are also about 10 women who have come here and married local men. From what I understand, they have met in various different ways and in different countries. We haven’t append into some sort of slave mail order bride company. Most the men looked fairly clean and of regular size (not sure of the relevance of someone’s weight but it seems important to Think) last time I observed them.

    Any other questions, please feel free to ask me.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @saphira
    I did see the census when it came out, but only at the main conclusions, I never looked at the tables at the bottom. There are different numbers for Filipino citizens and people born there but yeah, there are more men than women and Think's 60 mail order brides don't exist.

    @Jo
    Thanks, that makes way more sense.

    Looking at your census, there is a table for length of residence, and that shows 39 out of 63 people born in the Philippines arrived in the last 3 years, so there has been a big increase recently. The text higher up says “Between 2012 and 2016 the groups which showed the largest increases were the UK, Zimbabwe and the Philippines;
    the latter two countries reflecting specific employment sectors in the Islands.” The Zimbabweans are employed by the demining company, correct? But do you have any idea what specific employment sector the Filipinos are employed in?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Goooooooooood boy..., Mr. DemonTree...

    You can use mathematics when you want..., I see...
    39 Filipino arrivals during the 3 years between 2013 and 2016...
    ATBE..., How many extra Filipino arrivals does it give during the 2 years between 2016 and 2018...?

    Anyhow... I must admit I slightly exagerated my numbers to get Mr. Jo Bloggs gastric juices to a boil...;-)
    The true number of bought Filipino Mail Order Brides in Malvinas most probably lies in between Jo Bloggs “ten” and my “sixty”...
    Ergo...: ~30...

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    I think you are the one who needs to brush up on your mathematics, Think. ~30 Filipino mail order brides? That would be an impressive achievement when there are only 23 Filipino women living there.

    I notice from the census that 10 Italians have moved there in the last 3 years, 8 of them women. Do you think they are also mail order brides?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    Just for the record DT, the reference to the children wanting to invade was part of the conversation that followed me being shown a single photo from that posting. The conversation was held with an Argentine who I took to have been there. The item itself does not include such a reference, but it isn't much of a leap to believe that it was said. I do. Whether you do is rather up to you.

    There can similarly be little doubt that Think is a racist bigot with hang-ups about foreign women taking up with Islanders. There has always been a shortage of women in the Falklands. An imbalance that seeks to right itself. Thailand has an excess although it is believed that their more recent preference has been for Chinese men, where there is also an imbalance.

    I understand that a number of the deminers from Zimbabwe liked the place so much that they sought to stay, albeit not necessarily continuing in the de-mining business. As for the Philippine lasses - islands with an excess of men can sound attractive. Word gets around.

    Love travels. Nothing wrong with that.

    All the frustrations and prejudices lie with Think, methinks.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    I repeat..., Mr. DemonTree...

    39 Filipino arrivals during the 3 years between 2013 and 2016...
    ATBE..., How many extra Filipino arrivals does it give during the 2 years between 2016 and 2018...?

    You know we are in 2018..., don't ya boy...?

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    Demon Tree
    None of what I am saying about this is based on the sort of FACT-based figures that Think is using so forgive me if I am slightly (slightly, not 600%) out.

    Based on what I see, here and read, there are two main employers who actively seek Phillipino staff from employment agencies. The largest is the retailer FIC and they now employ predominantly Phillipino men and women in their West Store complex in a range of stores including their food hall and clothing store, home products and DIY stores. My feeling is that the mix- male to female- is reasonably even but if I had to say which was higher I would hazard a guess that there are slightly more women then men working for FIC. Having said that, I don’t go into their wharehouses and stock rooms where the opposite may be evident. The second largest employer that I am aware of, of Phillipino staff is Shorty’s Dinner and most of their staff are Phillipino and certainly more men than women.

    Shorty’s diner has been recruiting their Phillipino staff for many years. I would guess maybe as many as 15 years. The diner is open for a lot of hours a week so I assume the staff work to a shift system but at any one time they have about 6 on duty. Remember, I don’t have Think’s FACTS, so it might be as many as 36 staff on duty.

    Over the years some of these staff may have settled with partners here but I am truly not aware of any instances of that. However, if it is the case, it is just as likely that men have settled with locals as well. I can see Think’s next claim: FALKLAND MAIL ORDER GROOMS.

    Think, you, by your own admission, exaggerated and guessed. I did not. I am pretty aware of all of the marriages and long-term relationships where it could be said that local men turned up with ladies who they sought for the purpose of marriage. I have tallied them up again and I reckon there are no more than 10.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Boy… Laddie… ya failed, you have been revealed to be an ignorant twerp as well as a noxious anti British racist Nazi troll. Everyone is smirking…

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    I see. I guess you know how reliable your friend is, but I don't, so I'll take it with a pinch of salt if you don't mind.

    @Think
    1 year and 4 months, and I only remembered after I posted. But what you are claiming is still totally implausible. Ten marriages is way more likely and makes sense.

    @Jo
    I thought it might be something to do with the fishing, but apparently not. It seems kind of random the retailer wants Filipino staff in particular, but whatever. To me what is especially implausible is that there wouldn't be any couples among the Filipinos, which Think is assuming.

    Also I believe he was accusing the Zimbabweans of being mail order grooms, but his claims are pretty much busted at this point.

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Zimbabwean mail order grooms..., huhhhhhh...?
    Naaaaasty boy...;-)

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think loves to paint a picture of us as modern day slavedrivers. He especially loves to claim we actively seek out black people and treat them like dirt. “Cleaning our toilets.”

    As I have said before, we do encourage cheaper labour which is always on a win win basis. When a large firm based at Mount Pleasant advertises for workers in the Punta Arenas media literally hundreds turn up for interviews in the town centre. The wages and full terms and conditions are always noted in the advertisements. Chileans I know who take up these jobs are very very happy with their lot and can earn double what they can in Chile with all travel and lodgings covered also.

    Think loves to paint this picture of us exploiting black people. Here are some examples of what sort of work some of the most predominant groups do here:

    South American:
    One of our best hotel/ restaurants is owned and operated by a Chilean
    Travel Agents (I’m pretty sure they don’t have to clean the toilets in the shop)
    Carpenters
    Tour operator manager
    Aviation security officers
    Shop assistants
    Electricians
    Sports trainer
    Labourers (oooh! Exploitation!)
    Farmhands (oooh!)
    Waiters
    Member of Legislative Assembly
    I have to be honest here and say I can’t think of any toilet cleaners but some of the hotels have lots of different house staff so it is likely some South Americans clean toilets as part of their job).

    St Helenian
    Building company owner
    Shorty’s Diner owner
    Co-owner of the largest IT company
    Manager of Malvina House Hotel
    Retail Manager for all of FIC
    Head of payroll for FIG
    Co-owner of the primary egg producer
    Supervisor of the largest garden centre
    FIG’s building works supervisor
    Engineering foreman
    Sales assistants
    Mechanics
    Licensed aviation engineer

    Phillipino
    Diner workers
    Sales assistants
    Aviation fitter
    Engineer

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @Jo
    It helps his cause if he makes you look bad. But it doesn't seem like there are any problems tbh. Who cleans your toilets, by the way?

    @Think
    I suppose you think the Argie mail order grooms are better? ;)

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Takes all sorts

    http://es.mercopress.com/2018/02/15/buenos-aires-confirmada-capital-gay-de-america-latina-segun-la-british-lgbt?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=main&utm_campaign=twitter

    Feb 15th, 2018 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Demon

    Currently Mrs Bloggs and I share cleaning our toilets but we have used cleaners in the past. Our last cleaner was a lovely lady from Thailand who is married to a local man (she is also a local now; we were all immigrants at some stage in our families’ histories) and started her own cleaning business. After a few years of hard graft she went on to something better.

    Before her we had an Anglo lady who also did a good job.

    We’ve gone about seven years since we’ve had a cleaner but it’s time to free up some of our time again. We’re about to get another one but this time we’re going to use one of the larger companies. The trouble with our previous two was that they were essentially sole traders or near enough to it so even though they both did an excellent job there were isues with continuity.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    And here's me in Thailand, can't get a cleaner for love nor money!

    Funny old world.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Think's participation in the above “debate/exchange” is really intolerably juvenile and a waste of time. Why bother with him? Just ignore him!

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    Nope... I do not luuuuv to paint a picture of you Kelpers as modern day slavedrivers...
    But I am describing some situations in them Islands that you Squatters mismanage grossly for short term economical winnings...

    For example...:
    1) The repeated licesing of slave fishing ships (and the veritable manhunts when some of those slaves jumped ship) you could “do nothing about” (until some International awareness suddenly forced you to do “something about it”...)

    2) The hiring of menial workforce from third Countries at the cheapest possible wage level..., usually much lower than the salaries paid to local people...
    That DOES NOT create any WIN-WIN situation as you call it but long term resentment...
    We Argies have done it with the Shileans in the past... Ze Germans have with themTurkish Kurds..., You Engrish with them Pakis...
    You need more examples...?

    3) The current import of bought women, (definitively more than 10..., by the way) that has NOTHING to do with luuuuv.., feelings or any other romantic stuff...
    Just a disgusting economic transaction between rich white males and poor gook females...
    A ticking moral and social bomb... specially considering the awareness the Male-Female Power Interaction Inbalance is getting as we speak...

    Thanks anyway..., Mr. Bloggs for giving me some of your “shit's steam”...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    After smarting from the drubbing you received regarding your observations on Filipino women on the Falkland Islands you turn up here trying to spread more disinformation. You are just a noxious anti British Nazi Colonialist troll. Get lost.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Still making yourself look like a racist, bigotted, prat then Think? Not a surprise.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think
    Your posts rarely interest me enough to want to respond...
    Today is no exception but thanks for your latest observation, which I assume, one should also apply your regular tolerances of +/- 600% to.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    That 600% tolerance treshhold would be correct... assuming your info was correct...

    But..., As you have proven to me plenty in the past..., you info is often far from correct... (Mr. Doveoverdover identity, for example)

    A median between your 10 chicks and my 60 gals would be 30..., right...?

    That would place your 10 gals whopping 200% afar of the median...
    And would place my 60 chicks just 100% afar of the median...

    Capisce...?

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    You are not very good at maths either then Think

    The median between 10 and 60 would be 35 (10 + 60)/2

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    You are of course... right..., Paddy...
    That would place Joe Bloggs 10 gals more than 200% afar of the median...
    And would place my 60 chicks quite under100% afar of the median...

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Yes, your second made-up number is closer to your first made-up number than to Jo's estimate. Is that supposed to prove something?

    When all your data is invented it's irrelevant whether the maths is correct: garbage in, garbage out.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    How about a discussion about paint drying times?

    Rustoleum dries tack-free in 2-4 hours, to handle in 5-9 hours, and is fully dry in 24 hours. You can apply a second coat within 1 hour or after 48 hours. Why is that do you Think?

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Ahhhhhhh.....
    Engrish denial...
    Squatter siege mentality...
    You Engrish should learn from us Scandi's
    We have some Islands living through precisely the same problem...
    And despite the best efforts of the superior white system to justify this human trafficking...
    The social and moral dilemmas by it provoked... are mounting by the day and hurting the very base of the society this trafficking was supposed to save...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39703486 ?

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Gooooooood boy...

    You found one of the best engrish written efforts of the superior white system to justify this human trafficking...
    You get a plastic medal...

    Now... if you want a metal medal..., try to read what the Føroya press says about the issue...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • DemonTree

    I wanted to check I had the right islands first. ;)

    But I can't read the Faroese press and google doesn't even translate the language.

    And the English language press is rather positive about the whole thing:

    http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/asia/2017/09/mail-order-bride-asian-women-choosing-life-faroes-170919064401712.html

    villamorhighschool.org/v2.0/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=522:can-filipinas-truly-flourish-on-denmarks-faroe-islands&catid=39:potpourri&Itemid=195

    The similarities are striking though:

    “a treeless, windswept country at the door of the Arctic circle that is cloaked in darkness for six months of the year”

    “an archipelago that is home to only 50,000 people and 80,000 sheep.”

    “It has been a self-governing state within the Danish Realm since 1948. Over the years, the Faroese have taken control of most domestic matters. Areas that remain the responsibility of Denmark include military defense, police, justice, currency and foreign affairs.”

    “The Faroese depend economically on fishing, which accounts for about 95 percent of exports and nearly one-half of its GDP. The almost total dependence on fishing and fish farming means that the economy remains vulnerable in the future. Petroleum found close to the Faroese region gives hope for deposits in the immediate area, which may provide a basis for sustained prosperity and reduce dependence on Denmark.”

    Even the photo of the town looks similar to Stanley, though obviously bigger.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Tjaaaaaa...
    Maybe that's the reason I like them squatting Kelpers...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jo Bloggs

    The Falklands just got much closer to achieving a second air link this week. A second air link that should have been able to happen 15 years ago but was illegally blocked by the Argentine Government. I can’t be bothered attaching a link but Mercopress will catch up with the news within the next week. Give or take 600%.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Woooooooooow........ Jo...

    Ya Engrish don't ride the same day you saddle...huhhhh...?

    That “new airlink” of yours..., wouldn't be the air link I linked four (4) days ago..., some hundred (100) comments above..., would it...?

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    So what problems have they had in the Faroe Islands?

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ............. and DYOR..., lad...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I did, you saw the results above. It looks like the others are right: it's a win-win.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Modern Engrish DYOR...
    Is that what they learn you at school nowadays...?
    No wonder your Empire went Bananas........., Laddie...

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Not my fault, I wasn't born then. What did they teach you in school, how to research in the library of Alexandria?

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think

    The governments of Argentina and the U.K. today jointly wrote to all South American countries and told them to feel free to enter into negotiations for an additional scheduled flight service to the Falklands.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    For the information of Think the Racist, an official statement was issued by the FIG on the subject of air transport earlier today. It demonstrates that very little has been decided. It will also provoke a local reaction I suspect. No sign of any large lady bursting into song yet - as Infobae tried to suggest.

    Monkey's & Organ Grinders Think - but I don't doubt that Mercopress will give this news its own page in a few hours.

    Such a bitter old man. Isolated in the Argie colony of Patagonia is undoubtedly the best place for you.

    Feb 16th, 2018 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pete Bog

    I'm not sure why more immigration to the Falklands whether from the east or elsewhere is thought as bad by Think?

    I suspect, because it disproves the myth that every single Falkland Islander is placed on the Islands straight from UK by the Brits.

    As for the fact some of the workers from overseas not being on the highest salaries. If they are getting more money in the Falkland Islands than the countries they came from, then perhaps Think should be asking, why do they get worse wages, conditions and quality of life in their countries of origin?

    Obviously the 'low paid' get much better wages in the Falklands.

    I bet their conditions, being British are a lot better.

    My wages in the Falkland Islands weren't particularly high compared to other poms, but I thoroughly enjoyed the Islands. Some tourists paid a bomb to see what I discovered on Shank's Pony for nowt and I saw much more than the average tourist. The social life was fantastic.

    Maybe the people who come to the islands are happy living there, and whether they come to marry or work, the Islands themselves are very special with a lot of freedoms, a stable, reliable administration (based on British law), with little crime and a great social life.

    Perhaps Think could comment on the indentured slaves that Vernet used at Port Louis,in the 1820s/30s and that the fact that three slaves who chose not to return to Argentina(not from the UK) were granted their freedom by the British in January 1833?

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Yogi

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • gordo1

    Yogi - why would “England” want to do that? I am sure that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would prevent that happening!

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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