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Argentina moves closer to the US in security and crime-fighting policies

Saturday, February 17th 2018 - 09:59 UTC
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Argentina is taking new steps to solidify its security relationship with the United States, a move that may be aimed at generating support — both political and material — for a shift toward more hard-line domestic crime-fighting policies. In a trip to the United States last week, Argentine Security Minister Patricia Bullrich met with several top US officials to discuss security issues. Read full article

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  • British_Kirchnerist

    This is literally mad, importing the worst practice of the developed world's most brutal and failing justice system. They're clear they want more “Black Lives Matter” style police killings; what's next, a quota for school shootings?!

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    I agree, giving the police carte blanche to shoot people is crazy, especially in a country with significant police corruption. If officers are getting in trouble for doing their jobs then they need to clarify and probably reform the rules on using force, not give them a free pass to do anything they please. Why any country would want to copy the American system is a mystery.

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC...
    Self defence..., the Maci way...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=__mf_StkW7I

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Enrique Massot

    Argentina hasn't been able to get lemons and biodiesel into the U.S., but its government is opening wide the doors to U.S. agents in a return to the worst of the Cold War practices.

    Simultaneously, the Macri government openly clashes with a court investigating a trigger-happy killing - he wants the policeman involved to be treated as a hero.

    The government continues to shed its “joy and yellow balloons” disguise to increasingly exhibit Argentina's darkest side: that of a greedy, authoritarian, regressive upper class hungry for revenge.

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Kanye

    EM

    “Revenge”?

    Do you mean to say the responsible employers, business leaders, small business owners job creators, and educated entrepreneurs that drive the economy, want retaliation for being screwed over by the previous government, La Campora, and other “noqui” freeloaders?

    That would be admitting that it happened.

    Feb 17th, 2018 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    SR. Massot...

    You are absolutely right...

    This government continues to increasingly exhibit Argentina's darkest side...: That of a greedy, authoritarian, regressive upper class hungry for revenge....

    A dark side..., you..., more than many of us..., have the right to critizise...

    A “Revenge” for this “unforgivable affront”...:
    http://www.diasdehistoria.com.ar/userfiles/image/fuente-patas-molina-2.jpg

    And FOR its newer version... were one can see some of the modern affronters..., currently being persecuted...:
    pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwf4V1jW8AAKcq3.jpg

    Have a sunny sunday in cold Canada
    El Think...

    Feb 18th, 2018 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Enrique Massot

    @Think

    Thanks...it really is a cold, never-ending winter here.

    @Kanye

    ”Do you mean to say the responsible employers, business leaders, small business owners job creators, and educated entrepreneurs that drive the economy, want retaliation...?

    Not at all. You fail to make a necessary distinction. There is a big difference between the responsible entrepreneur who does not have offshore accounts, those whose prosperity goes hand in hand with the prosperity of the country and its inhabitants.

    A different beast is the 1 per cent that includes large landowners, the agribusiness and the concentrated sectors of the economy that can freely move capital in or out of the country to offshore tax havens.

    In fact, the small and medium-sized companies, which are the most dynamic and main job creators in the economy of most countries, are among those suffering most the effects of the Macri government policies.

    Not only that. Most responsible employers, business leaders, small business owners job creators, and educated entrepreneurs are willing to increase wages according to the pace of inflation. And who really does not want that to happen right now? It's none other than the government, which has decided to keep inflation in check by keeping wage increases at no more than 15 per cent in a 25 per cent inflation context.

    The medium-sized and small enterprises, which you appropriately named as the engines of the economy, are deeply hurt by Macri's policies because they depend on national consumption which is falling, and by wide open imports that are killing thousands of businesses while the foreign debt raises at unprecedented rates.

    As I have said before, the politics of the Argentine oligarchy do not even contemplate a capitalist development of the economy. That is why the country suffers a permanent pendulum between those who want to remain in the Dark Ages and the developmentalists.

    Feb 18th, 2018 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Kanye

    EM

    You would continue the disastrous policies of the K's, printing money to give raises, raising prices to offset the higher cost of labour, printing money... foreign goods and materials to produce domestic goods becomes more and more expensive for the average Argie... and on and on...

    Argentines' purchasing power decreases, and your own products become inferior with the Protectionism imposed to protect your industries.

    Argentina is not in a vacuum. Pretty soon, you will descend into a relative Stone Age, like Venezuela, reaping the 'benefits' of the Peoples' Bolivarian Revolution.

    But then, you were an Anarchist, not an Economist, right?

    Feb 18th, 2018 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    It ain't no trick...
    Picture of yesterday's manifestation apoee in favour of the Macri Administration...
    Heavily promoted & announced through social media and diverse guveramental “Call Centers”...
    https://images.pagina12.com.ar/styles/focal_16_9_960x540/public/2018-02/dwrxqh8w4aaumvm-1-.jpg?itok=_9s9L-4r

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Feb 18th, 2018 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Enrique Massot

    @K

    Look Kanye, the world keeps turning around, and the government that will eventually replace Cambiemos may be very different from the ones headed by Nestor Kirchner and CFK. I am not calling for turning the clock back, but to go instead towards what we call “una instancia superadora,” no matter who represents it.

    What is of some use today is to evaluate the job Cambiemos is doing as it begins its third year in government. It matters little that I speak against most of the current policies being applied, and I believe it is of little consequence to keep talking about how bad the government that ceased to exist in December 2015 was.

    I am sure you will agree that no country can prosper without a dynamic domestic sector, one that produces and consumes. Now, borrowing like crazy and making the country vulnerable to outside economic ups and downs as the current government is doing, promoting financial speculation instead of genuine resource generation, keeping the state spending more than it generates is taking Argentina nowhere but to the next catastrophic crisis.

    And again, independently of what you or I may think, Argentina's public opinion is becoming increasingly disenchanted with president Macri and his team of CEOs. You just need to look at the picture the link to which Think has brought to us above. If memory serves, the previous demonstration in support of Cambiemos had an attendance of 25,000.

    Come on, Kanye, take off your pink glasses and look at the reality - it does not hurt and you will be glad you did.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Happy CristinaCumple, vuelve potranca =)

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Clyde15

    BK

    You seriously think that the USA is worse than China or Russia ? Get real !

    DT
    a country with significant police corruption.

    Where is your evidence to state that ?

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeee....
    Even us..., “Millonaries”..., are fkucking tired of this Mauricio Macri turnip...!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ayg25vAJKlk

    ;-)))

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @Clyde15
    I wasn't expecting to be challenged on that. Is this good enough?

    ”Argentina's police carries a high risk of corruption. The police force is among the most corrupt institutions in the country and its actions are cited as arbitrary and politicized (BTI 2016; GCB 2013). Businesses report that the police cannot be consistently relied upon to enforce law and order (GCR 2015-2016).”

    https://www.business-anti-corruption.com/country-profiles/argentina

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    He didn't challenged you on that..., boy...
    He reacted without properly reading what he was reacting about...
    He was evidently trying to defend your Anglo cousins in America...

    It happens to you too..., boy...
    Reacting without properly reading what you react about..., that is... ;-)

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I did wonder if that might be the case, but Clyde15 can say so if it is.

    It happens to everyone sometimes, but I was reacting to you giving away more than the original comment, and drawing extra attention to it too.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...
    I wasn't refering to your last one...
    I was refering to your previous ones...
    And I truly hope I have draw the atention of Kelper GALlamosa over “you know what”...

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Clyde15

    DT

    I was so pissed off with BK's anti - US bias that I shot from the hip with my comment to you. About 10 minutes later I realised that I had misinterpreted your comment and that you were talking about Argentina but I had pressed post .

    Yes, I jump the gun sometimes but we can't all be as perfect as Think, can we ?
    Rhetorical question !

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    If you're talking about your own comments, you do cross the line a lot, so I'm less likely to give you the benefit of the doubt. Saying offensive things in a way meant to be funny or make a point is all too often just a cover for being offensive.

    @Clyde15
    My comment wasn't exactly flattering of the US, but I don't think their police are corrupt in a systematic way. Still, they are hardly an example to be emulated, are they? I have seen people giving advice on the internet for tourists on how to deal with American cops. It read like the advice for avoiding bear attacks (no sudden movements, avoid angering them...), the police should be protecting the public, not a danger to them.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Lowlander...

    If you used some of your pension monies to buy a good, modern, waterproof, warm jacket to keep you dry and toasty in the humid lowland winters..., you would surely be less grumpy and would jump the gun much less often...
    Just a friendly advice..., lad...;-)

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    And in your infinite wisdom, what should I do to be less grumpy and avoid jumping the gun?

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Get some kids...?

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I have a baby niece now, and there's another one on the way. I reckon that's as close as I'm going to get.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Geeeeeeee....lad...
    That's like comparing White British Kelpers with Man Fridays and Tarzans...
    “No comparation whatsoever”... as an Anglo turnip wrote to you in another thread...

    Now seriously...
    You and your SO could always adopt...

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    He doesn't even like children... It would probably be a bad idea anyway, I can barely look after myself half the time, let alone a kid.

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Hmmmmmmmm......

    Feb 19th, 2018 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Clyde15

    Think

    Take advice from you ? You have to be joking !

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Lowlander...

    I advice you to visit Benmore Botanical Garden...

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Clyde15

    Viejo

    Not required, I was there last Thursday.

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Lowlander...

    For you kind info (and education)...

    Down here in Patagonia (contrary to Anglo culture)..., being a “Viejo” is quite a good thing...
    Kind of being an venerable seasoned sagely erudite master of sorts...
    Some decades ago..., we named a nearby pretty mountain after my best baqueano ever...: El “Viejo” Rueda...

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    How about 'abuelito'?

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    No cigar...
    Not even close...

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Doesn't it mean the same in Spanish as English?

    But if you wanted something insulting, gooogle suggests viejo verde.

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Clyde15

    Viejo

    Yes I was aware of the idiomatic use. Have you heard of “irony”

    Feb 20th, 2018 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Everybody luuuuuuvs Maurizio Macri...:

    San Lorenzo stadion..., about one week ago...:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHLlWt8Ho0

    River Plate stadion..., about a couple of days ago...:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=ayg25vAJKlk

    Buenos Aires tube station today...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33ecD5rLtzM

    Say no more...

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Why is Brazil left out?

    Afterall, Brazil is pioneering the fight against crime extremely effectively! Thanks to the constant efforts; Temer finally has RJ under Full Military CONTROL to combat gang violence. REF:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2018/02/17/temer-has-rio-do-janeiro-under-full-military-control-to-combat-gang-violence

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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