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“What a shot”, the folklore side of rampant violence in Rio do Janeiro favelas

Wednesday, February 21st 2018 - 09:27 UTC
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A viral music video called “What a shot” is stirring debate in Brazil about the glamorization of crime and freedom of expression, as surging crime in Rio de Janeiro has led the government to put troops in charge of security in the tourist city. The hit by Jordana Gleise de Jesus Menezes - known as JoJo Todynho - has spawned myriad parody videos on YouTube since it was released in December. Read full article

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  • golfcronie

    What do they eat in the “ favelas ” to make them sooooo fat.

    Feb 21st, 2018 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Good question...specially when the say they can't afford to buy food...

    Feb 21st, 2018 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “You take the same test that me and Jack took” You two can take as many side-trips and claim what ever you wishful delusions you want. But it’s noted that other posters have come to the self same conclusions that I have concerning you on other threads.
    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “Your political views,that I'm a fascist - where your 'proof’”. h ttp://en.mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470582
    What is interesting is that so many of those with familia ties to Argentina, that accepted the propaganda of Peron. Turn out with exactly the same social malformations. Devoid of any ethical or moral standards pertaining to truth. Preferring a fantasy
    historical narrative to reality. I assume that those that were so affected were somewhat defficent in the first place to be so
    transformed. http://en.mercopress.com/2018/02/12/mysterious-killing-of-petrobras-corruption-investigation-whistleblower/comments#comment483928

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @Terence the Liar
    Never mind, I thought it would be more interesting than having the same stupid argument yet again. Emphasis on stupid.

    RE other posters, I think it's funny that you agree with Think that Jack Bauer is a facist, Jack Bauer agrees with you that the Falklands are British and Think is a Peronist, and Think agrees with Jack that you are an idiot... and none of you can stand the others.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “Jack Bauer is a facist” is a proven liar as he is condemned out of his own mouth. As my previous link so indicates and he in the face of such compelling evidence, still denies he is. A liar is someone who knowingly and deliberately makes untrue statements. Which qualifies you also, since you will not find an instance of such behaviour from myself. When and if I make any errors I am more than happy to admit to such.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    “Which qualifies you also, since you will not find an instance of such behaviour from myself.”

    Lol, I didn't have to look very far. Your very next sentence is an instance. I've seen you continue swearing that the most absurd logical errors are correct because you just can't admit you were wrong, despite the fact it's obvious to anyone with the intelligence of half a flatworm.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    So your still unable to prove your assertion, therefore proving you are a liar. As “Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.” Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    No, you are unable to prove your assertion, you just post irrelevant quotes as usual. And I don't care if you believe your own lies, you're still a liar.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    So your still unable to prove your assertion, therefore proving you are a liar.
    “Burden of proof is often abused in rhetoric and arguments.
    Shifting the burden
    Fallacious shifting of the burden of proof occurs if someone makes a claim that needs justification, then demands that the opponent justify the opposite of the claim. The opponent has no such burden until evidence is presented for the claim.”
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

    “Logical Fallacies
    Ignoring the Burden of Proof:
    He who asserts must prove. An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.”
    h ttp://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm
    According to the definition you are also illogical. Moreover, since you can’t prove it must by necessity be false.
    “Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.” Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    Over you to you fallacious since you’re the one claiming I’m a liar without proof, unless you're claiming your assertion is not a thought.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Yes, exactly like when you claimed to have a wife, and then said it was my burden to prove you didn't. A textbook example of trying to shift the burden of poof, according to your own quotations. Which you have still not admitted, making you a LIAR.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “When you claimed I had to prove I have a wife” I had already been answered by the legal doctrine of absurdity that runs from the present day to ancient Greece
    So you continue with your Donald Trump impersonation with your illogical fallacy of making assertions without proof and then attempting to shift the burden to me.
    So your “Thoughts are either true or false”. Since your unable to prove your initial assertion you don’t get to make second by moving the goal-posts.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @The Liar Terence Hill
    “the legal doctrine of absurdity”

    This is nothing but sophistry on your part, but even if it wasn't, it still does not allow you to shift the burden of proof to me, meaning you lied.

    “Thoughts are either true or false”

    Here is something you quoted to me earlier:

    “A fact is a statement that can be proven true, while an opinion is a statement that *cannot be proven true*. Facts can be confirmed by checking books or reliable internet sources”

    http://www.education.com/lesson-plan/can-you-prove-it-facts-and-opinions/

    Opinions are also thoughts, so which is correct, Terence the Liar?

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    The issue is your failure to prove that I have lied. Therefore revealing your clear and obvious deceit. You attempt to wriggle out of your obligation by making further assertions to muddy your tracks. To wit, “So which is correct” all of them since they are three separate words thoughts, fact, and opinion. Which each have their own separate meaning so there is absolutely no contradiction. So your sophism fails at the starting line. So back to beginning where is your proof that I am a liar, as your failure so far, indicates clearly your claim is a lie. Thus, what ever I have stated stands unrefuted.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    The LIAR will not take the test...he thinks he's perfect ; he is... a 'perfect' idiot. He's such a vain idiot, that even if he does take it, he wont reveal the result, instead inventing one that reflects how 'he' sees himself....the owner of the truth, and an expert in Brazilian and Int'l law. Truth is, he's completely illogical and lives in a world of fantasy.

    But we have seen he can't even lie 'perfectly'... when caught in a blatant lie, after stating categorically that I never disclosed the place I was born, he attempts (and fails) to wiggle out of it by claiming he made a 'mistake of fact , nice euphemism for “LIAR”.

    Another LIE : “But it’s noted that other posters have come to the self same conclusions that I have concerning you on other threads.”....well, let's see who these other posters might be : Think the Chimp ? Reekie ? ...only 'two' ? While Stink has his own agenda, just trying to stir up the shit every now and again, he is inoffensive ; Reekie is well-intentioned, but has the incurable habit of sticking his nose in to matters he knows very little of (economy, Brazil..).

    Another : “As my previous link so indicates and he in the face of such compelling evidence...”
    In his sick mind, if 'he' has written' something - “as my previous link so indicates” - it is “compelling evidence”...'compelling' only to his small brain.

    He tries in vain to associate me with Peron and states ” interesting is that so many of those with familia ties to Argentina, that 'accepted the propaganda of Peron' etc....

    Is this another LIE, or just a 'mistake of fact' ? I'd like him show just ONE word which indicates that I ever defended that bastard......C'mon Terry numb nuts !!!

    On the other hand, you can see a patterm forming, the more senile he becomes, also the bigger the LIAR. He obviously doesn't know that the SOB Peron was one of the reasons my familiy left Argentina.
    It's pointless trying to engage in constructive dialogue with the LIAR...

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Damn. It's impossible to prove anything to someone so stupid, it's like he's surrounded by an armoured wall of ignorance. Who the heck doesn't understand that a thought can be an opinion, or can be a fact?

    Besides which, that quote is bollocks. Certain things are unprovable, it's well established in maths and computing, or you can just write a contradictory statement like:

    This sentence is a lie.

    That's not true or false, and I don't care which eminent philosopher he is (mis)quoting.

    I suppose he thinks taking the test is some kind of trap or something, who knows why? It would be more interesting if EM took it, anyway. He seems pretty close to being a full on socialist, that's not too common these days, though when I was at Uni I had a neighbour who was head of the Socialist Worker Student Society.

    I agree it's astoundingly dumb to think you would support Peron, or that you are some kind of Argentine nationalist. Hasn't he been paying any attention at all for the last however many years?

    What would have happened if there was no Peron though? Your parents might have never moved to Brazil, you could be living in Buenos Aires now. I wonder how different your life would have been?

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    It is clear that Terry Pinnochio has a one hell of a big inferiority complex, a deep paranoia about being persecuted, by what I don't know, but it makes him react in the most irrational, arrogant and absurd manner...He doesn't know the difference between the truth and a lie...he believes he has it all thought out in his warped mind, and if you don't agree with him, you MUST be a liar.

    Well, if it weren't Peron, it might have been some other nationalistic lunatic...if he hadn’t been removed from the post of State Secretary of Labour and imprisoned by the military (1943), he might not have been seen as a ‘hero’ by the masses of workers (usually easy to influence with populist promises)…he was eventually released, and, I suppose that the population must’ve been fed up with the government at the time ; so unwillingly they (the govt) set the stage for a populist demagogue to come along and promise everything would be 'just fine' if they elected him.... history repeats itself, time and time again, and will keep on doing so until people become smarter (in the good sense). He promised he would nationalize the (British) Railways, to boost the feeling of nationalism, (and he did) despite the fact the concession would be up in a few years and the railways would have reverted back to Argentina at no cost....but Argentina was enjoying its int'l credits accumulated during the war, and no amount of sense would have changed things. As a result, the railways went down the drain, and today, the state they are in, is unbelievable.

    If we had stayed on, think it would have been just a matter of time before I got the hell out, as did most of my cousins, as soon as they were old enough.

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “The LIAR will not take the test” Living up to your sobriquets, as we can also add libeller to it since we can place no reliance on your long discredited personal opinions. “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
    A ’mistake of fact’ which stands on its own merits, unless you can show some subterfuge or deliberate evasion. Like you claiming you’re not a fascist in spite of your own pronouncements to the contrary.
    “The self same conclusions that I have concerning you on other threads.” Since, that wasn’t addressed to you, or the posters were neither of the two you have named. Then that amounts too at least four persons now.
    “I’d like him show just ONE word which indicates that I ever defended that bastard..” The point being made is not related to him personally but your stated preference for authoritative anti-democratic governments after coming from country that was so inflicted. Reinforced by your preference to use anything but the truth in your claims. That is such a peculiarity that it is outside anything that I have inclination too. The only others that I have found with this oddity is Argentine nationalists.
    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “Certain things are unprovable …in maths and computing” But those are not the subject matters at issue, that is simply your attempted evasion.
    “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion”. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

    Feb 22nd, 2018 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Yaigulah3x

    Say goodbye to free speech.

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @TH aka brain-less
    “ The point being made is not related to him personally but your stated preference for authoritative anti-democratic governments after coming from country that was so inflicted”.

    Is 'that' your justification ? is that how you excuse yourself for lying, AGAIN ?
    Try wiggling out of it all you want, keep on posting irrelevant quotes, that you are incapable of forming an opinion of your own, and twist words until the cows come home....for what it's worth, most of those who are reading these posts have long realized what a senile old idiot you are.....

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “Is that how you excuse yourself for lying, AGAIN “ No that is your MO, so the best you can proffer is a further libel without one iota of proof. “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion”. “But your stated preference for authoritative anti-democratic governments after coming from country that was so inflicted”. Which you don’t deny thereby endorsing my assertion.

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    “it might have been some other nationalistic lunatic...”

    It might. Argentina is supposed to have been richer and more developed in the past, but only a small part of the population really benefited from that. So inevitably the majority would demand change, and elect whoever promised to improve things for them. Meanwhile the more conservative elements just seemed determined to hang on to what they had, rather than trying to develop the economy in any meaningful way, and the government that followed the most orthodox economic principles - as recommended by the IMF - caused the worst crash of all. It doesn't seem like there were any good options.

    I have read that Argentina's decline was at least partly caused by factors outside their control, mostly the opening of the Panama canal, and the switch from Britain to America as foremost world power.

    Did your cousins also move to Brazil?

    @Terry the Liar
    “But those are not the subject matters at issue”

    They still prove you are wrong. Statements are NOT always true or false, and anyway there is a much more common example: opinions, as your other link shows.

    What the heck was the subject matter anyway? I have no idea in all your blizzard of quotes.

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    When the economies of 3rd world countries start to decline, or get into a crisis, governments usually start looking for some external scapegoat...many times external factors do take their toll, and to a certain extent ARE uncontrollable, but before it gets to that point, is when the government should take measures to try to avoid, or to soften the impact....most don't, as it's notorious that cutting into their own flesh is 'unpopular'....with the government.

    Only one moved to Brazil, and that's after having spent time in the US, Africa, and the UK. Others went to US, Canada and the UK.

    Engaging the Brainless LIAR is a pure waste of time. Should just ignore him and his 'mistakes of fact'.

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Not just in third world countries, but yeah. It must be harder for them for many reasons; less control over external factors, much less fat to trim when it's necessary, crappy or no infrastructure, and often big loans owed due to earlier attemps at development. And not forgetting the all too common corruption.

    Do you think Brazil is better run than Argentina, in general?

    And you're right about TH, but you're not very good at ignoring him either. ;)

    Now I have a random question, inspired by something in another thread. There are kids TV programs where the characters are objects, like trains or aeroplanes or toasters, or a sponge. So I was wondering, every object has a gender in Portuguese, right? Would it seem strange if the toaster character was male and the clock female? Or does it not work like that?

    Feb 23rd, 2018 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    They still prove you are wrong. On contrary they prove me right and confirm you're the liar.
    “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion”.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Do you speak any Portuguese, Terry?

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Don’t try and wriggle of the hook as its you that’s claiming without evidence (“Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.” Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012.) Are untrue, ergo “Statements are NOT always true or false”
    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    Again you libel me without any evidence. Whereas I innumerable times have proven you’re the liar to wit: “Your political views,that I'm a fascist - where your 'proof’”. http://en.mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470582
    “Lined with a plastic bag. For the disposal of used toilet paper in the bathroom”, is rubbish..(JB) “In common with most Latin American countries, the sewage system in Brazil can't cope with paper being flushed, so use the bin provided.” h ttp://en.mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
    Game set and match.

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    I'm not arguing about it any more since I already proved it several times, including right above.

    If you really lived in Brazil you must have learned at least a little Portuguese, no?

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “I already proved it several times..” No you haven’t, your unsupported claim doesn’t count. “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion” So wiggle, wiggle, you’re still unable to refute Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophies definition.

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    I'm not doing it again since you denied it the first five times. Now answer the question.

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “I’m not doing it again” You haven’t done it once, which to make crystal clear again. “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion” You’ve babbled but provided not one scintilla of proof. Incidentally, thoughtless statements don’t even come close to proof. So since you have failed yet again to bear your burden you’ve lost the argument bozo.
    “Now answer the question” Lying losing wimps who can’t meet their obligation don’t get to dictate.

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    I must get my eyes tested. I thought it was called “What a sh1t”

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    Does numb nuts speak Portuguese ? by the look of it he's already ignored the question, as if by replying would disclose some damaging information about himself...not that 'that' would make much difference now....his reputation is already dirtier than a chicken perch. The funny thing is that you asked a very simple question, and he replies 'the burden of proof is on you ???' Senility ??

    In some old post, I think he did mention he had spent some time here, although in more recent posts he's refused to disclose where - so am inclined to believe it must have been in a slum on some Rio hillside - as he admits to putting his “soiled toilet paper” (how 'chique') in a 'receptacle beside his potty'...But if he can't prove it, well just have to assume he can't, and if he says he does, we'll have to presume it's just another 'mistake of fact'...

    You're right, I haven't been ignoring him “properly”...it's just that I love pointing out his lies..erhh, “mistakes of fact”...

    You're right about Portuguese....nouns are either masculine or feminine, and are preceded by the corresponding article, 'o' or 'a' , respectively. ”Eg., the aeroplane = 'o avião' ; the toaster = A torradeira ; It's easy for foreigners to mix them up.

    Argentina v Brazil : two quite different countries, in size, population, economy, customs, so it's not easy to compare, but generally speaking I'd say Brazil is run a 'little less badly' than Argentina. Perhaps Brazil's far larger population has demanded better control from Government, although at times this may be exactly what favours corruption (as long as the majority don't realize what's going on or are loath to admit it happens) which seems to be common to both countries, irrespective of the slightly different origins/cultures..

    Feb 24th, 2018 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    When a party makes an assertion that is a deliberate lie. I don’t allow them to escape their obligation to prove it by moving the goal-posts. You better stick to conjecture, because every time you make an assertion without substance I’m going to reveal what a liar you are. http://en.mercopress.com/2018/02/21/what-a-shot-the-folklore-side-of-rampant-violence-in-rio-do-janeiro-favelas/comments#comment484110
    An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.
    Since I’ve shown that enough already I can safely assume your opining has less than zero credibility. That you would even lie about what you ate for breakfast.

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    As a true democracy, The Brazilians must be applauded for accepting Crime+Corruption calmly & philosophically - in the form of songs & dances. So, even the crooks get generously pardoned. Apparently, they have a mature outlook as well as a keen foresight. REF:
    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5559/2185/400/00rs0516b.jpg

    The progress of such a country is CLEARLY imminent!

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @THill, aka Brain-Less, Worthless Liar
    I have made no 'assertions', numb nuts....just said what I, and others, are inclined to believe, based on your absurd posts and your customary refusal to answer simple questions, instead resorting to the childish argument that who asks the question bears the burden of proof (???)
    The only thing being revealed is that YOU are an inveterate liar...

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    JB “I have made no 'assertions … YOU are an inveterate liar”
    So lets show the real you.
    “TH and Lula …both are arrogant liars, uncouth, disgusting pigs, amoral, immoral” You have described yourself to the Tee and unlike you I can use your own gutter language as confirmation of your total lack of refinement. “Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil… Oct 31, 2015 ... take you fairy dress off and start fondling your dolls.” “Rousseff pledges … put on your new dress, be gay and frolic, and you might even manage to get yourself reamed.”; “Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil …Nov 05th, 2015 - 05:19 pm. ..your inflatable dolls never complain when you can't get the wrinkes out of your limp noodle, is what gives you this impression... they just fart when you squeeze them..”: “Desperate for funds Jan 20th, 2016 - 03:12 pm ..why don't you pull Long-Dong Silver out of your closet”
    So when faced with your unconfirmed claims and my factual presentation, it isn’t rocket science. Like I said you’re the gift that just keeps on giving. So my thanks for confirming your well deserved reputation as liar is in no danger of being lessened.

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Maybe sometime I will go through and find all the totally gratuitous insults Terry the hypocrite has thrown at me, but not now because I'm in Finland for the week. I may not be able to post much either.

    I guess Brazil and Argentina are quite different in some ways, but to me they seem to share many of the same problems of corruption, poor governments, and oligarchs clinging to an almost feudal system in rural areas. Brazil certainly has more international recognition, as a BRIC and with the Olympics, and that must be mostly due to its bigger size and population.

    Re Portuguese, are the o and a equivalent to el and la in Spanish? Also I was wondering, since you speak Portuguese and Spanish, can you read Italian? And how about Romanian?

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “I will go through and find all the totally gratuitous insults Terry …has thrown at me” Please do with links so we get the where and the whys.
    You don’t know how to make an argument and ignore all the associated rules of conduct. Even when shown clearly what they are. Your like a petulant child pouting and complaining when those that do follow the precepts destroy your assertions with the very rules you attempt to circumvent. So your hindered in your unprincipled conduct, good, so you rightly should be. As other than an adult you and your twin aren’t any different to any other cowardly bully in a playground. As of then to present time I’ve always been prepared to stand up for what fair and proper.

    Feb 25th, 2018 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    Did you see the “total lack of refinement”, above ? not at all surprised numb nuts has kept a record of all my 'kind' references to his person, as it would seem fitting for him to go through them every now and again, so that he can feel humiliated and lick his wounds...
    Anyway, I must thank him for grouping them in one post, as will make it easier to remember them for the future, should the need arise.
    But after doing him so many favours, is that the treatment one gets after exposing the LIAR and his “mistakes of fact” ???
    I think I'll have to lodge a complaint to the UN....or hire Lula's lawyers...
    Does this idiot really exist, or is it a robot programmed to answer stupidly to everything addressed to it ?

    On a lighter note, yep, the 'o' and 'a' are the equivalents of 'el' and 'la'. Regarding Italian, I can understand quite a bit when reading it, and if spoken slowly, I can pick up the gist of what's being said.. During my teens, besides my Brazilian and British friends, I also hung out with a group of Italians, which made things easier. Despite Romanian supposed to have the same roots, can't understand a word of it.

    Feb 26th, 2018 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “My 'kind' references to his person” Says nothing at all about me, but is more telling about your self. It shows someone who obviously is both uneducated and has the emotional maturity level of an undeveloped nine year old.
    Yet, again you liable me with no evidence. “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
    You do so to try and cover your own MO of your deliberate untruthfulness. Your claim of no ‘o saco de merda’s’ in Brazil. Your false claim that there was a planed communist uprising in Brazil, that justified the dictatorship. Your defeated assertion that you’re not a fascist, Brazil remembers the 50th anniversary of the coupe…
    15 Jack Bauer; “..Am pretty sure that military are accompanying all this … I hope they DO take over...”
    etc. In fact about 90% of what you claim are simply lies. But thats not really your fault its part intelligence or lack of and coming from an indoctrinated culture.
    “Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
    There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.”
    www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

    Feb 26th, 2018 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @TH, aka Brain-less, Worth-less, Spine-less coward...

    “...you l i a b l e me with no evidence” ....Uh-oh...'Fee-Fo-Fum, I believe I smell the ignorance of a Terry Bum' ; Just another piece of 'evidence' of your ignorance or, perhaps just a wee “mistake of fact” ...

    Your insinuation that I'm a racist is laughable - absolutely no proof other than your opinion -“which you don't have” - but typical of all stupid commie liberals when they realize they've lost the argument....And you DO know what you can do with your irrelevant quotes, don't you ?

    Nevertheless, numb nuts, keep 'em coming, reasons for a good laugh, similar to Dilma's speeches...

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Well...

    There may be “absolutely no proof other than someone's opinion” about poster Jack Bauer being a “Racist”...

    But he certainly is on record in here for being a “Realist”...

    One of those sick, pathetic Richy Rich “Realists” we have down here that luuuuvs to tell Europeans how necessary it is to kill them street children “criminals” quick...
    Preferably by privately sponsored Death Squads...
    Preferably before them young criminals turn 10 years old...
    And..., very preferably..., before they commit their first crime against the sacrosant private property...

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    A good news at last: “Brazil prosecutors decide to end plea deal with JBS ex-CEO”: REF: @ftbrazil

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “Your insinuation that I'm a racist is laughable - absolutely no proof other than your opinion” I haven’t insinuated any such thing. You obviously have a reading comprehension difficulty. It is a report that includes that possibility, but, it’s not specific to single individual. It is what the researchers have found as general characteristic. To wit: “The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. … Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.”
    Or are you attempting to claim you are a font of moderation and an unbiased person. Hardly, as your postings attest quite clearly your attitude towards those that don’t share the same political view as you.

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    That's what I thought you'd say, although having Italian friends must have helped. I would have asked you about French too, but you learned it in school so it doesn't count.

    @Terry the Hypocrite
    You don’t know how to reason and instead rely solely on argument from authority and ad hominem attacks. You're like a petulant child pouting and complaining when other people destroy your feeble attempts at argument with the very rules you love to quote so much. So you are hindered in your unprincipled conduct? Good, so you rightly should be.

    Since I started posting here, I’ve always been prepared to stand up for what 's fair and right, no matter how much abuse you give me for it.

    So let's take a look at the real Terence Hill:

    “see you’re following you usual patten of being deliberately obtuse or stupid. In the famous quote of Lord Byron to Mrs. Wordsworth “Fuck off””

    “Better get a truss to support that herniated opinion you'r e dragging on the ground behind you.”

    “Try to get your foot out of your mouth before you answer.”

    “Well you obviously are one with half a clue...”

    “Your done like dinner revealed in your true capacity, devoid of any moral standing. A pathetic lying little troll.”

    “What a moron...”

    “Are you stunted?”

    “...enjoy your complicity, nice sucking.”

    “You fell off the tit on that one, all in all, a pretty poor sucking attempt.”

    Now I know what you're going to say: when Jack insults you that's just terrible, and a sign of his bad character. When you insult me you are totally justified, and it's not at all because you are an arrogant asshole. This is known as hypocrisy, and is why I call you a hypocrite.

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “You don’t know how to reason” In your unsupported opinion. “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion
    Long on opinion and devoid of any facts. So I only need to make a short response.
    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
    An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.
    That you support an unrepentant fascist speaks volumes about your lack of character.

    Feb 27th, 2018 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Terry the Hypocrite
    “You don’t know how to make an argument...” In your unsupported opinion. “The burden of proof lies with whoever is making the assertion
    Long on opinion and devoid of any facts. So I only need to make a short response.
    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
    An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.

    That you haven't even replied after I proved I was right by listing just a few of your many insults speaks volumes about your lack of integrity.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “I will go through and find all the totally gratuitous insults Terry …has thrown at me” TH “Please do with links so we get the where and the whys.” So you don’t get to “cherry-pick” and engage in ‘fraud by omission’. As you do, I will show you in your true-colours and not in the persona you pretend to be.
    “Compromised in good faith with Nixon and Kissinger” I see you’re following you usual patten of being deliberately obtuse or stupid. In the famous quote of Lord Byron
    h ttp://en.mercopress.com/2017/11/30/ara-san-juan-since-falklands-conflict-buenos-aires-and-london-have-never-been-closer/comments#comment478304
    “Someone who has examined the evidence and presented it” My response to this facetious claim “From an unknown author of unknown qualifications, That might well have been paid by unknown sources. Better get a truss to support that herniated opinion”
    http://en.mercopress.com/2017/11/30/ara-san-juan-since-falklands-conflict-buenos-aires-and-london-have-never-been-closer/comments#comment478377
    “Your done like dinner revealed in your true capacity” Follow the thread to see why he is toast, he has lost the argument hands down.
    h ttp://en.mercopress.com/2017/11/30/ara-san-juan-since-falklands-conflict-buenos-aires-and-london-have-never-been-closer/comments#comment478590
    So three examples of you censoring comments out of context.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Should THIS be a “news” or is it absolutely “normal” [maybe a normal “Fake-News”?]?

    “Brazil lawmaker arrested at the airport”:
    http://www.tribtown.com/2018/02/08/lt-brazil-corruption-2/

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @Stink the Chimp
    Thanks for the 'realist'...but why did you spoil it with your silly comment about 'richy rich” ? As to your darling street kids, seems pretty clear you don't get much news down in your hole, as you might think differently if you had heard about just a few of their crimes committed during Carnival in Rio...how about swarming tourists on the beach, ripping their jewelry off them and stealing their cellphones and wallets...and even shooting one ? OR, how about 4 of your 'nice' street kids (teenagers) beating up an 84 year old woman, to take her money ? If anyone needs to get REAL it's you.
    I've already suggested that you adopt a couple of these kids...but can't remember seeing your reply...

    @THill, aka Brain-less, Spine-less coward...
    Regarding my comment that you insinuated I'm a racist”....how about taking a look at your (7th) post, above : says you : ”I haven’t insinuated any such thing.
    Now go to your post, waaay above (the 11th) : “There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb”......? Ah, so sorry, forgot you are senile.
    Just another of your lamentable 'mistakes of fact 'I presume ??

    @DT
    Must admit, despite studying French and having to speak it at times while in west Africa, today it is pretty rusty...
    But I see have taken on numb nuts...the only thing he knows how to do when people disagree with him (about 100% of the time) is to claim their opinions are 'unsupported' (of course, only 'he' knows , and tells the truth), to carry on with his irrelevant quotes (which are meant to prove exactly what, other than he doesn't have an opinion ?) and to wiggle out of his his lies by calling them “mistakes of fact”. A moron, who thinks that if he repeats his lies often enough, they'll become true. Numb nuts can't be taken seriously.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
    “There's no gentle way to put it..” Is not my statement, not only do you have a reading comprehension problem. You also have a cognitive one. At the end of the post is the author's credentials who wrote it. I am simply the messenger.
    No surprise, as sophistry is your stock and trade and an estimated 90% of what you post is untrue any event.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @Terry the Liar
    Yup, just as I said. You whine about Jack Bauer insulting you but you are happy to do to do the same to me. Hypocrite.

    @JB
    “as you might think differently if you had heard about just a few of their crimes committed during Carnival in Rio”

    I think I can safely say that he would not. If you want to be a realist you might consider that robbing tourists does not generally warrant the death penalty, and that there are other options besides murdering the kids or adopting them.

    I also learnt French at school for five years, and even got an A, but I never could speak it, and I've forgotten most of it now since I've barely used it since. Think reckons he can read any romance language just because he speaks Spanish, but I'm sure that is not true of most people.

    Re Terry, I really meant it when I said he doesn't know how to reason. He literally thinks that arguments are just competitive quoting, and whoever finds the best expert wins. The idea of evaluating an argument and thinking for yourself goes completely over his head, that is why he gets so angry when other people don't play by his silly made up rules.

    Also, the site going down earlier reminded me that I was going to give you my email address just in case. It's d3montree, and then @gmail.com. You can send me an email to make sure it's right if you like, but I may not reply until I get home, depending on whether I remember my password.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “Yup, just as I said” You engaged in fraud by omission. Dishonestly refusing to supply the where and the whys. Your deceit is laid out for all to see. So on your bike and in the famous words of Byron to Mrs Wordsworth “Fuck off”
    “I said he doesn't know how to reason” from one that has argued that he doesn’t have bear the burden of proof and is therefore revealed as a consummate liar
    AN ASSERTION IS A STATEMENT OFFERED AS A CONCLUSION WITHOUT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. SINCE AN ARGUMENT IS DEFINED AS A LOGICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREMISE AND CONCLUSION, A SIMPLE ASSERTION IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.

    Feb 28th, 2018 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    W0W! What a shot: “Netto e Jungmann alarmados com união entre tráfico e milícia”
    REF:
    https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/netto-e-jungmann-alarmados-com-uniao-entre-trafico-e-milicia/

    Mar 01st, 2018 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Lying again Terence. I didn't refuse to give the where and the whys, if you had asked I would have supplied the links. I knew you would feel exactly the same about your insults as Jack did about his, but any reasonable person would agree your abusive behaviour was just as abusive in context, not to mention completely idiotic. Perhaps you can't help the fact you don't have a proper understanding of argument, evidence, or really anything else, but your arrogance and offensiveness is definitely your responsibility.

    Mar 02nd, 2018 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “I didn't refuse to give the where and the whys, if you had asked I would have supplied the links”
    I did and you didn’t so you’ve certainly proved the lack of accuracy of your claim and the the truth of mine.
    “Please do with links so we get the where and the whys
    http://en.mercopress.com/2018/02/21/what-a-shot-the-folklore-side-of-rampant-violence-in-rio-do-janeiro-favelas/comments#comment484349

    Mar 02nd, 2018 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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