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Data scientist Christopher Wylie: “The Brexit would not have happened without Cambridge Analytica”

Tuesday, March 27th 2018 - 15:21 UTC
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Christopher Wylie's specialty was to predict fashion trends before starting work at 17 for a Canadian politician, at 18 he participated in Obama's campaign to learn about his data management and later he helped to found Cambridge Analytica (CA), the consultant accused of misuse of data of about 50 million users of Facebook. However, Wylie said he feels regretful. Read full article

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  • El capitano 1

    Bullshit...just another weired SOB who lost his job because of his aberrant behaviour and now decides to run his mouth and get equal.....Has anyone noticed that so many of these so called “Whistle Blowers” are homosexual..??..ie...Snowden...Handler.. as well as this thing ....etc etc....This kinda shit go's right back to “cambridge” before and after WW2...Just
    making an obsevation...!

    Mar 27th, 2018 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    Reaching that conclusion is just an opinion not a fact. The dying struggles of the minority that was defeated in the referendum who dont believe in democracy. Both sides lied. The result was decisive, get over it.

    Mar 27th, 2018 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Ah, so cheating is okay if it helps your side? I think it's clear who really doesn't believe in democracy.

    Mar 27th, 2018 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Julius

    So why do you think that anything described in this article could be called “cheating”?

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Perhaps because the guy did it called it cheating?

    I'd say sending people targeted lies and fake news in order to influence their vote, and breaking election spending rules are both cheating.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • The Voice

    Both sides lied, and, if we have another vote both sides will do it again. It happens at every election, remainers should get over it or emigrate.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    No we shouldn't 'get over it'. WTF is wrong with you? It's not normal or okay for campaigners to tell blatant lies to us in elections. We wouldn't shrug our shoulders and ignore it if, say, a cigarette company decided to claim their product cures cancer instead of causing it, or a car manufacturer lied that you can get 300 miles to the gallon if you buy their car. Why should we tolerate such things in politics?

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Get over the result then? You arent indignant at the multiple Remain lies are you? And all the warnings of doom that Carney and the lying Government were threatening and then never happened? What is wrong with YOU? Myopia? You lost, get over it! Evry fule kno politicians lie (except the naive that is)

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    Which Remain 'lies'? I don't remember any actual lies, and I was and am indignant at the OTT scaremongering, because it's dishonest and manipulative.

    You didn't ask me to get over losing, you said I should get over campaigners cheating and lying, even breaking the law (on spending limits). Sure everyone knows politicians lie, same as everyone knows people will break the law. Should we disband the police them? Should we have let MPs go on fiddling their expenses after we found out, just because everyone was doing it? We *should* object to being lied to; if we accept it with no protest they will just do it more, but if they suffer consequences for it, even if it's just public opinion, it'll happen less often.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • The Voice

    Thats a great debating strategy - selective memory! The remain campaign were serial scaremongers and bare faced liars, so were Leave. Get over it and get over the result. We are all continually lied to and fed half truths. Thats why one should always look closely at who is saying what and wonder4 why they are saying it. Every politician on earth should be in jail according to you. Grow up!

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Idlehands

    Bun fight. Bun fight. You're going to need some buns if you carry on like this. I'm rather partial to chocolate chip if there's any going spare?

    As for Brexit. I doubt the result would be different if it was re-run and even if it was it wouldn't really settle the division in the UK on EU membership.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    Heres some buns….

    There will be 3 million job losses…
    There will be an enormous recession
    There will be tax rises and spending cuts
    There will be serried rows of gravestones WWIII
    Western political civilisation will be destroyed

    Easy to forget Remain's lies and false assertions - doom mongers united. Its still going on…

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • golfcronie

    Doom mongers. Tony Blair is one, he certainly sorted the world out when he was prime minister

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Meh, you're way too fond of hyperbole, TV. Obviously I don't think every politician in the world should be in jail, but I bet I can get you to agree that ONE should be in jail for lying to us: Tony Blair, who claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction ready to launch within 45 minutes and took us into the Iraq war.

    As for your 'lies':

    * 3m job losses was a Leave lie, not a Remain lie:

    “The Sun has blasted David Cameron for claiming that 3 million jobs would be lost if we quit the EU, branding this “nonsense”. Iain Duncan Smith made a similar criticism the day after the prime minister made a keynote speech last week.

    ”If Cameron had said Brexit would lead to the loss of 3 million jobs, he would have been wrong.

    “But there is no mention of this in the prime minister’s speech. As it is, it’s the Sun and Duncan Smith that erred.”

    https://infacts.org/will-3-million-jobs-lost-quit-eu/


    * Recession after the vote:

    I'm not sure economic predictions can be considered as lies, but one report did say there would be a recession so I'll give you this one.


    * Tax rises and spending cuts:

    Osbourne said this AFTER the vote, so it definitely didn't influence it. I was trying to find out if taxes and spending have risen or fallen, but the government doesn't make this information very easy to find. Wonder why that might be...? ;)


    * There will be serried rows of gravestones WWIII
    * Western political civilisation will be destroyed

    Fake facts, no one said this.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Wrong ! You Googling is wrong (as usual its, selective)

    Cameron was a Remainer, he talked about the gravestones. Tusk said civilisation will be destroyed.

    Carney was issuing barmy warnings that all proved false.

    The Treasury were wrong.

    The point is that these are senior figures who backed Remain. If you are naive you would expect the predictions from folk like them and The Treasury to be spot on. They were not, they were clearly part of a cynical plot by Remainers to spread doom and influence the vote.

    Now we have the same idiots, Blair, Clegg, Patton and that Welsh Labour idiot still at it.

    They were wrong, they are still wrong and they will be wrong. Anyway, I am busy with my woodwork, I'm off now…

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    Wrong? You're the naïve one, believing lies from the Murdoch press. There's no fool like an old fool.

    I suppose you think Blair lying and getting us into a war is just fine too, then? After all, all politicians lie, right?

    If you don't care about honesty and evidence, stick to woodworking and leave politics to those of us who do.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • :o))

    Woke up early didn't we?

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Ageist comments from Saint DT, well I never! Disagree with this self opinionated twit at your peril…

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    ;)

    I notice you dodged the question on Blair again. Lying politicians are not okay.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • The Voice

    DT You know my views on BLiar. You are sitting on your throne asking the questions yet again. We arent here for your convenience but to express our opinions and discuss the topics. In most cases politicians werent lying they were expressing ridiculous scare stories to persuade naive people to vote to remain. They didnt reckon on there being so many people with their own opinions based on tbeir personal experiences who couldnt be decieved.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @TV
    In another thread Jack Bauer wrote:

    “The problem with corruption in Brazil is that it’s so entwined in to popular culture, that few people actually see it as something wrong.”

    I would like people to see politicians lying to us as something wrong, exactly to avoid that kind of situation. And I hoped by making you think about Blair and his lies, and the damage they did, that you would no longer be so sure it is some minor thing that we should just 'get over'.

    As for 'couldn't be deceived', that's about as convincing as Patrick claiming he's not prejudiced. People are remarkably easy to manipulate, and believing you're immune just makes you over-confident.

    Mar 28th, 2018 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    The forces of evil - BLiar, Clegg, Lucas, Patton, Clark, Miller, Smith and others are trying their hardest to wreck Brexit. Theresa will see it through if she can survive politically.
    I remember back in the 90s profiling was used in identifying potential voters very precisely. An American friend showed me his GIS software overlaid with voter data for door knockers.
    Nothing wrong in that but it seems that Facebook is seriously at fault here in releasing the data without express permission.

    Mar 29th, 2018 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • :o))

    REF: “The Brexit would not have happened without Cambridge Analytica”:
    WAKING UP A BIT TOO LATE AREN'T WE?

    Mar 29th, 2018 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @TV
    I can never tell if you are serious or trolling, but I'm gonna assume that first line was trolling since it's obviously ridiculous.

    I used to use that GIS software in my job, it's definitely Facebook's fault for releasing the data without permission, but using it to target lies to people based on what they would most easily believe, and specifically trying to make them disbelieve the 'MSM' is its own special kind of evil. It's expected that people will have different opinions on what is best, but it's corrosive to society if we can't even agree on what is happening in the world.

    Mar 29th, 2018 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The Voice

    DT, IMHO these people are all evil, some more than others. Thing is IMO, some of them dont realise it…

    Mar 29th, 2018 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Hardly anyone ever thinks they're evil. Helping start the Iraq war could be considered evil, but I'll bet Blair was convinced it was the right thing to do at the time.

    I have no idea why you picked out the others, except that they disagree with you on some issue, which is hardly a sign of evil. Perhaps you could explain?

    Mar 29th, 2018 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • :o))

    CAUGHT NAPPING DIDN'T WE?

    Apr 01st, 2018 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    @DT

    Good for you for insisting that political dishonesty gets called for what it is and for its disastrous consequences. Entire populations are mislead and in this time and age where everything said gets recorded, electors should abandon apathy and ask not to be taken down the garden path anymore.

    TV should be given a failing grade for his complacency with political dishonesty--as long as it works as he likes.

    Apr 01st, 2018 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    To be clear I dont approve of political dishonesty. I just commented that all politicians are at it continually quoting stuff that suits their purposes. Both sides lied! Not my complacency, just realism! Its up to each voter to take every claim with scepticism and DYOR, just like choosing a share.

    Apr 01st, 2018 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Thanks, EM. :)

    And I'm glad you agree, TV. It's up to each of us individually to check claims, even the ones that fit our preconceptions, and it's up to all of us collectively not to tolerate too much dishonesty, because our politicians will do all that they can get away with.

    Apr 01st, 2018 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    If a political outcome is not to my liking, then those arguments that were used to win that outcome were unfair if not outright lies.

    If the political outcome is one I favor, then probably there weren't any very terrible lies told.

    Apr 02nd, 2018 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cheiVabi8v

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    Apr 03rd, 2018 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ko7veeSoof

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    Apr 05th, 2018 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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