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Falklands' elected government after a Special Advisor for the coming C24 meeting

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The Falkland Islands elected government are interested in recruiting a Special Advisor with a particular interest in global politics. The purpose of the Special Advisor is to support the two elected representatives of the Falklands that will be attending the annual meeting of the Special Committee on Decolonization (C24) scheduled to take place next 22 June at the United Nations. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    Howard S. Levie, one of America’s foremost legal experts and key draftsman of the Korean Armistice agreement summed up the Special Committee when he said, ‘the Special Committee has completely disregarded this right of self-determination and has been seeking to award territory against the wishes of the people who reside on that territory.’ And ‘ that it was Arab and Latin American states who led the General Assembly in these decisions, and that they were more concerned with their own territorial integrity than with the right to self-determination of small colonies that wished to remain loyal to their colonial rulers.’

    Falklands – UN C24 Committee:
    https://www.academia.edu/11274445/Falklands_-_UN_C24_Committee

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Article says...:

    ***“Members are keen to take a representative from the Falkland Islands with them in the capacity as a Special Advisor... The ideal candidate will have an interest in the role of C24, global politics more broadly, and be prepared to provide practical support to MLAs during the visit.”***

    In other words...:
    A not too daft Keper gal that knows how to iron shirts..., make coffee and humour old men...
    What about Emma...?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jo Bloggs

    You’re ‘special,’ Think. Why don’t you apply?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...
    Read them conditions again...:
    ***“Members are keen to take a representative from the Falkland Islands...”***
    I'm not from no Falkland/Malvinas Islands..., matey... I'm from Chubut..., continental Argentina...

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • FRodriguez

    It is interesting the effort they make (£1000 for an special advisor with all expenses covered, double crossing of the Atlantic, go to NY via London) to go to an “irrelevant” Committee. Regarding the appreciations that some members make about the C24, this committee has always recognized and veiled for the application of self-determination in cases where a people -in its legal term- was present. The last month they were present in New Caledonia overseeing the preparations for the referendum and the correct application of the ‘98 agreements. If the C24, and the UNGA in general, does not consider that in the Malvinas exists a people with the right to self-determination, it is because they correctly applies this principle. To know more about it, please visit:

    http://www.malvinas-falklands.net/avada_portfolio/chapter-vi/#capitulo6c

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    What's their criteria for deciding if you're a people or not? Does it require not being white?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    I Think their criteria for deciding what kind of people them Kelpers are may have something to do with their citizenship of choice..., blood... and right...

    British people..., they are..., I Think...

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I was trying to work out what Gibraltar and the Falklands have in common that the other NSGTs don't. Small population - nope. Not indigenous - nope. British descent - nope. Short time established - nope. So what is the criteria?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Oooooooooooooooooops...
    No answer about them British Kelper peple... huhhh...?
    Let's swiftly change the subject to the British Llanito people...huhhh...?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I'm sure you'd rather much rather forget the Llanitos, but I wasn't replying to you. FRodriguez didn't just say they were right about the Falklands, but that the C24 has ALWAYS recognised self-determination where a people was present. I disagree; their decisions seem quite arbitrary to me, not to mention unfair. (And again, I'm not talking about the Falklands in particular, but their actions in general.)

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Examples...?

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    Facundo? That you? The Committee of 24 (now 29 members unless anything changed) has rendered itself 'irrelevant' to the process of decolonization by its failure to actually oversee many in the last 30 years, and even that would have happened without it.

    The UN recognised the Islanders as a people in 1952 when it determined that to be listed as a Non-Self Governing Territory there had to be a 'people' that could be led to self-government - ““The territories which are covered by Chapter XI of the Charter are those territories whose people have not yet attained a full measure of self-government.” [Resolution 567 (VI)]

    Of course, the UN has not had anything to say on the matter since 1988. Why? Because the UN will not impose a foreign nation onto an unwilling people of an NSGT.

    The matter is settled. How? Because Argentina has no move left.

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Hong Kong, for example. Britain never gave HK any self government unlike the other colonies due to threats from Mao's government, and the UN couldn't care less. They delisted HK while it was still a colony, taking away not just their potential right to self-determination, but any oversight of their 'interests' too.

    Then I have never understood why Gibraltar was listed but the Channel Islands and Isle of Man aren't. They aren't considered part of Britain and don't have any MPs either. Ditto on why is Puerto Rico not listed.

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    And what decision did the C24 ever take about Hong Kong..., lad...
    Yet again..., you are comparing pears and apples..., as the Frog say...

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Why wasn't Patagona listed? Tibet?

    When the UN first started to look at the issue of decolonization, it wrote to all the Members of the UN asking them for their views on what could be determined as a colony and asking for them to identify their colonies.

    Many simply did nor respond.

    Britain did not regard the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man to be 'colonies.'

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    None that I know of, which is odd since that was their job. It was the UNGA that delisted HK, so perhaps I should be complaining about the UN in general.

    I guess it just seems strange that on the one hand they have this committee for a few tiny islands and make a big deal about self-determination and referendums, and meanwhile there's places like Biafra and Chechnya, and the Kurds, where the UN just isn't interested. Not to mention all the people living under dictatorships who also have no representation, but apparently being oppressed by your own people is just fine.

    Did you UN say anything about your dictatorship?

    May 01st, 2018 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brit Bob

    Argentine politicians attempt to circumnavigate UN resolutions and the international law on self-determination by declaring that the Falkland Islanders are not ‘a people.’ ''The Falkland Islanders do not exist. What exists is British citizens who live in the Islas Malvinas'' Argentinian Foreign Minister Timerman quoted by D. Telegraph London 6 Feb 2013).

    Falkland Islanders – A People (single page):-
    https://www.academia.edu/34442484/Falkland_Islanders_-A_People

    May 01st, 2018 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • The Voice

    If you are discussing these concepts witb the Twinkle Vegetable please appreciate his heritage, cranial limitations and brainwashing.

    Every fule kno the C24 is just a bunch of agenda driven freeloaders incapable of just and fair Thinking. Like many other aspects of the UN they are a nasty stain on the sadly impotent organisation.

    May 01st, 2018 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    I know it's pointless. What are those places to Think? He doesn't have any friends from them, he's got no reason to care unless it can help his cause.

    As for the C24, considering how many of the members are dictatorships who don't gaf about human rights, I shouldn't be surprised they would've been happy to deliver more people to suffer under them. Many have their own troublesome minorities to oppress, they wouldn't want to encourage them.

    May 01st, 2018 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • portman

    under immigration rules the advisor will have to be recruited locally unless no suitable candidate applies. plenty of qualified kelpers such as mike summers, phyl rendell and other former mlas who have a proven track record. lets hope one or more of them are interested in taking up the job.

    May 01st, 2018 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr.Portman...

    By the job description..., I Think this opening is for the training of a young Sherpa...
    Á la young Teslyn..., if you catch my drift...
    Phyl and Mike are past that level...

    May 01st, 2018 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    That was a serious question. Did the UN have anything to say about the juntas in South America and/or operation Condor?

    May 01st, 2018 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    If you want to ask ”serious questions start by being serious when you throw your brainwashed blame around..., boy...

    First you blame the C24 for things that were and are completely out of their remit...

    Then you blame late Chairman Mao and the whole UN for Hong Kongs' Engrish Pirate Adventure misery...

    To finish..., you blame the UN for not having being more proactive against South American dictatorships...
    In hindsight..., seeing how the Anglosphere uses the UN as an excuse to kill millions and destroy entire Countries... (Afghanistan.., Irak..., Lybia... and currently Yemen and Syria...) i'm glad the UN didn't involve itself deeper in our “troubles”...

    By the way... Speaking about brainwash and Syria...
    Your mainstream humanistic brainwashed questions remind me strongly of this conregional of mine..., I link to in the video below...
    He appears at 13:20...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=822s&v=g1VNQGsiP8M

    I would suggest you though to watch the entire video and listen and learn from that lass...
    She has much bigger balls that any of us...
    And much smaller brainwash...

    May 02nd, 2018 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - I Think you can take that as a “No”

    Is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?

    Sad to see such a disturbed old man ;-)

    May 02nd, 2018 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Okay, I know I got ranty, I feel disillusioned.

    I don't blame the UN for everything wrong with the world, or even for not being more proactive against the South American dictatorships; we've seen it demonstrated well enough that interfering doesn't always help. I wondered whether it even said anything about them, and as Roger says I'll take your answer as a 'no'.

    I'd like to know if you really think New Zealand has more blame for the problems in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria than say, France, though.

    And HK wouldn't even exist without your so-called 'Engrish pirate adventure'. I'm only blaming the UN for not doing their job, which is true regardless of what the UK government did and didn't do. As for Mao, you're not going to tell me you think he was a good guy are you?

    “By the way... Speaking about brainwash and Syria...”

    We weren't, but I'll try and watch your video when I get time. It better not be another stupid conspiracy thing.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • James Marshall

    'I Think their criteria for deciding what kind of people them Kelpers are may have something to do with their citizenship of choice..., blood... and right.'...


    So Pitcairn and St Helena, just explain those to us Think/FRodriguez, in relation to the C24.....actually you won't will you because it will show your 'opinions' to be just that 'opinions', not facts to back up your opinions. The C24 do not put their 'Draft Resolutions' regarding the Falklands forward the the 4th committee for adoption......just so they can call it a special and colonial situation and claim they are not people...

    When the GA say they do not have the rights of 'a people' then you may have a point, but until then, you are talkng bollocks as usual.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The Voice

    We should be ashamed of the invasion of Iraq and its repercussions. We were lead by a Liar poodle kowtowing to the US. But to pretend that every one of us agreed to it and were behind it is a lie, in this case being proferred by an odious slithering self professed Nazi racist. As I remember it we took to the streets in London to protest in the biggest ever demonstration ever. Now that same Liar is trying to overturn our democratic decisions too.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    I want to asume that you are aware that that “Diillusion” of yours is one of the principal ingredients in the brainwash cocktail you drink daily...

    Get those two fingers out of the gas chamber and start Thinking...

    May 02nd, 2018 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @TV
    Yes we did, and it didn't do a damn bit of good. You do realise the current lot in power are no more honest and kowtow just as much to the US, right?

    @Think
    No, you'll have to explain because I've got no idea what you're talking about. I don't think you're brainwashed exactly, just blinded by your hatred of Britain and the US.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Boy...., why do you ask me to explain anything to you..., if you won't even read and comprehend what I repatedly have expressed in these pages...

    I have no hatred against them Engrish..., I just know them from the “receiving end”..., maybe that's what bothers you...

    As a mater of fact I have never been a good hater..., I Think I almost stopped doing that some years before you were born...

    And don't worry...,I won't tell you that I Think ChaIrman Mao was a good guy..., as long as you don't tell me that you think Queen Victoria was a good lass...

    May 02nd, 2018 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    I told you why; what you wrote in your last comment made no sense. And I know you said you don't hate us, but you obviously have a big old chip on your shoulder - your idea of 'receiving end' is something that happened 200 years ago and didn't affect you in any way.

    And what's wrong with Queen Victoria? She wasn't exactly a hands-on monarch, I don't see how you can really blame her for everything the British empire did. Whereas Mao really was in charge of Chine and choose his variously damaging and disastrous policies.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    George III & Victoria. Both remembered for the last years of their reign. Both a little mad maybe. What's forgotten is that both had long reigns. 59 years for George, 62 for Victoria.

    George was the 'hands-on' monarch.

    Good? Depends on how you define it, I suppose.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    James Marshall
    “When the GA say they do not have the rights of 'a people’” It is ultra vires, as they do not do not have such power. Such legal definitions are the remit of international tribunals. The ICJ presents its advisory opinion on two questions concerning Western Sahara; “The validity of the principle of self-determination, defined as the need to pay regard to the freely expressed will of peoples, ...” The Court also states; “The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates, as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on ...the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . .” This purpose is further developed in Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. ...the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    George III lost the American colonies so he can't have been that good. At least he spoke English.

    Our queen has beaten them both for longest reign, anyway.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    George III was the King certainly although Lord North is generally blamed for losing the 13 colonies. George reigned from 1760 to 1820 ..... I suspect under his reign Britain gained more than it lost.

    She has. 1952 to 2017. How many colonies has she 'lost'?

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    ..................................................................................................... Not enough...!

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    5.50am. Still half-asleep it seems. I appear to have killed QEII off in 2017 ;-/

    Not enough Think? There are none left. Only BOTs/NSGTs with the right to become independent when they wish.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    Tut tut Roger, that's probably treason or something.

    I guess she lost nearly all of them. Maybe a few more will declare independence now if our government starts clamping down on the tax havens.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    My thoughts exactly. Bermuda is threatening a legal challenge, and is quite likely to go as the question of independence has been raised again relatively recently. The BVI are also unhappy, but I am not sure whether they can afford to go for independence.

    I shall watch with interest ;-)

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Well, it's not a bad thing. I'd rather they become independent if they're going to be tax havens.

    But the BVI were hit by the hurricane, weren't they? So this is unfortunate timing for them. Can't all those little islands in the Caribbean get together and form their own version of the EU? That would surely make independence more viable for the really small ones.

    And what do you think about the Cayman Islands? I'm sure I read somewhere that they were considering Independence too.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    News in the last few hours suggests that the Cayman Islands are also preparing a legal challenge.

    https://www.caymancompass.com/2018/05/02/government-to-challenge-order-in-council/

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Why did they leave out the Crown dependencies? Seems highly dodgy not to include them too.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Some doubt that the UK Government has any power to legislate for them. Differing opinions, yet to be resolved.

    May 03rd, 2018 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    Think/FRodriguez...Pitcairn,St Helena.......Your silence says it all we need to know.,

    Unfortunately you can't just ignore uncomfortable truths. What a conundrum for you and your mates at the C24, if they start calling the 'implanted population ' of Pitcairn 'a people', well that messes it up for their 'special and particular colonial situation' on the Falklands.

    Yet there they are, backing the right of Pitcairn to Self determination, positively encouraging the islands to take more ‘implanted people’, in order to attain a larger population that can help them towards independence, while only calling them a 'population'..

    But let's be honest, the C24 has no intention of guiding the Falklands to independence (their one and only remit), the C24 only mention solving the 'Sovereignty Issue' nowadays, but surprisingly, fail to pass these particular draft resolutions on to the 4th committee.....hmm why is that????

    Jeeeeezzzz, maybe the French or Spanish c24 documents use another word which helps your argument, oohhh what a tangled web we weave....chuckle, chuckle......

    May 03rd, 2018 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The Voice

    Juppppppppppppppp!

    Twinkle Vegetable silenced meThinks!

    Doesnt hate the Brits - not arf love.. issues bile and threats at every opportunity. We have heard of his threats of stealing homes and forced deportation again and again.

    This Norwegian Blue aint dead, e's only restin… e's not a Nazi e's only waving atcher!

    May 03rd, 2018 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    ***“Only BOTs/NSGTs”*** left..., you say...
    -Did I tell you that I've changed the names of them dogs that have the patience to live with me...?
    - Alfie is called Archie now..., Bailey is Buddy..., Max is Milo..., and Teddy is Toby...
    They just luuuuuuuuuuuuuuv that added value...;-)

    May 03rd, 2018 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    “Some doubt that the UK Government has any power to legislate for them. Differing opinions, yet to be resolved.”

    They don't know? Surely the UK gov must have legislated for them before, for example their half-in half-out relationship with the EU?

    I thought this quote in the article you linked was interesting:

    “Cayman has been British for a long time and I still believe that there is a lot of merit and benefit for us in retaining our British association,” he said. “I don’t think we are at this stage ready, as a country, as a people, as a government, for independence. Independence requires a whole new set of skills and abilities which we are still developing.”

    “The premier said contemplating independence would require a lot of planning and preparation. There are many failed states which took the step to independence when they were not ready, he added.”

    Seems a little odd for a head of government to admit they lack the necessary skills and abilities for independence. What is the big benefit to being a BOT?

    @Think
    I'm curious if you think the UK parliament were right to pass a law forcing the BOTs to reveal beneficial ownership because it'll reduce the number of tax havens, or wrong because it's undemocratic to legislate for them?

    PS. Did you really give all your dogs English names? That's weird.

    May 03rd, 2018 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Boy...

    I Think every Country in the World should do its best to end tax havens in their realm...
    In the specific case of the UK..., just the taxes dodged by UK citizens aided by other UK citizens resident In so-called BRITISH Overseas Territories would pay for the UK Defence Budget and the NHS........., twice...
    Does that answer your question...?

    -Did you really give all your dogs Engrish names? ... you ask further...
    Of course not...! Just indicating to the copper that changing the name of the dog doesn't change the dog...
    Their real names are Napoleon..., Otto von..., Mao Tse... and Vladimir... ;-)

    May 03rd, 2018 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    When you live in tbe UK its natural to name your poodles and pooches with English names. Its interesting to note that the alternative names are all chosen from oppressive regimes?

    The tax havens mentioned are in mostly islands under protection of the British Crown, thats how the gain legitimacy and the confidence of depositors. Without the British umberella they wouldnt be able to exist and if they were stopped from hiding money they wouldnt be able to exist economically. They should pay heavy taxes back to Britain for the privelidge and their worst excesses curbed.

    May 03rd, 2018 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    Maybe? You're not very good at giving straight answers.

    And yeah right your dogs are called that. I bet they DO have English names.

    @TV
    “They should pay heavy taxes back to Britain for the privilege”

    If you're happy to live off money laundering and hiding illegally-obtained cash, why not just cut out the middleman and make the whole of Britain a tax haven?

    I think we should try and stamp out those things at least, even if they are still used for legal but morally-dodgy tax avoidance schemes.

    Also, I don't think the German Empire was especially oppressive, although they were pretty keen on starting a war in Europe...

    May 03rd, 2018 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    DT

    “I don't think the German Empire was especially oppressive”

    Really? - Ever heard of the genocide of the Herero (and other) peoples in German South West Africa - check it out


    “This bold enterprise shows up in the most brilliant light the ruthless energy of the German command in pursuing their beaten enemy. No pains, no sacrifices were spared in eliminating the last remnants of enemy resistance. Like a wounded beast the enemy was tracked down from one water-hole to the next, until finally he became the victim of his own environment. The arid Omaheke [desert] was to complete what the German army had begun: the extermination of the Herero” nation.

    — Bley, 1971: 162

    May 03rd, 2018 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ***”They (Ze Germans) were pretty keen on starting a war in Europe...“***” ..., you say...

    More of your Common Engrish Brainwashed Knowledge..., I say...
    For your kind info...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=28s&v=O1yJo-g5cH8

    May 03rd, 2018 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • The Voice

    They? I thought all you Nazis stuck together?

    I am in favour of curbing the worst excesses of the BOT tax havens as I said. The banksters will no doubt find another way..

    May 03rd, 2018 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Damn, can't I say anything without people disagreeing?

    Darragh, yes I have heard of the Herero, but I was comparing the Germans to the other empires of the time. Have you heard of the Belgian Congo?

    Actually I'm not sure Napoleon was particularly oppressive either, just insanely ambitious...

    Think, I never was taught that WWI was all Germany's fault, but their blank cheque to Austria was a major cause. Besides, Bismarck was already dead by then, and he certainly wasn't shy about starting wars. Didn't he fight one against Denmark and steal some territory? No hard feelings?

    May 03rd, 2018 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    By you above exact same standards..., anybody here could write...:
    ***”They (The Engrish) were pretty keen on starting a war in Europe...“*** ...
    Don't you Engrish ever get tired of including such unnecessary haughty smartass remarks...?

    May 03rd, 2018 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    A lot of the people in power back then thought a war would be a good idea or at least were not averse to it. They had no idea what they were letting themselves - or more to the point the ordinary soldiers - in for.

    As for smartass remarks, I'd like to see you defend the British Empire to a bunch of Malvinistas and not say anything critical.

    May 03rd, 2018 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Stupid territorial disputes are great starters for wars eh Tinkle? You should know…

    May 03rd, 2018 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Speaking about current BDT's affairs...
    I read that the “A Customs Union ”plan just went the way of the Dodo...
    And... have anyone heard anything about them Skripals' lately...? Did they die...? Their hamster did...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    May 03rd, 2018 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    No answer about the German Empire... huhhh...?
    Let's swiftly change the subject to the Customs Union...huhhh...?

    May 03rd, 2018 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - no, they don't appear to be sure about the legal position. There have apparently been examples in the past when the Brit Government was able to strong-arm changes in the BOTs but no legal principle was firmly established. Hence the talk about a legal challenge.

    I doubt the Cayman Islands are big enough to go for independence, but Bermuda is.

    We shall have to watch and see how it pans out.

    May 03rd, 2018 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr.Lorton says...:
    ***“ I doubt the Cayman Islands are big enough to go for independence, but Bermuda is”***

    I say...:
    Even the dumbest dog finds a bone every once in a while...
    If you don't believe me..., look at what Turnip “The Voice” wrote above...:
    ***“ The tax havens mentioned are mostly islands under protection of the British Crown, that's how they gain legitimacy and the confidence of depositors... Without the British umberella they wouldn't be able to exist and if they were stopped from hiding money they wouldn't be able to exist economically. ”***
    Goooooooooooooooood Dog....;-)

    May 03rd, 2018 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    The Think Vegetable seizes on a 'truth' bone it found… .

    Jupppppppppppp!

    Chuckle chuckle

    Truth is, if you totally shut down these tax havens they will then beg the UK government for hardship funds and the banksters will move on to Burkino Faso, Panama or somewhere else even Argieland perhaps. As I said, better to curb their worst excesses.

    May 04th, 2018 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Think - have you found a bone lately?

    May 04th, 2018 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • The Voice

    I Think the Twinkle Vegetable is referring to himself! Foot, shoot, in! Juppppppppppp, chuckle chuckle..

    May 04th, 2018 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    I see. Do you agree with TV that they wouldn't be able to exist without the 'British umbrella'?

    @TV
    Lol, how do you like it, huh?

    PS. I heard the US is now the tax haven of choice since they refused to adopt new international financial disclosure laws.

    May 04th, 2018 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • The Voice

    Countries conveniently 'forget' their sins and hypocracy. We Brits do. Saudi! City banksters washing dirty money, BOT tax havens, helping to turn the Middle East into a cauldron, Institutional racism, etc etc. You can go on and on. But, amongst the vast majority of the population, kindness, compassion, a willingness to put our hands in our pockets to help the needy, a genuine belief in acheiving peace and fairness.

    How generous of me, a few more bones for the Twinkle Vegetable to chew on although he cant point to even one decent facet of Argieland - still corrupt, lawless in many places, belligerent, highly racust and self centred on the International stage.

    May 04th, 2018 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    You ask...:
    Think - have you found a bone lately?

    I say...:
    Of course..., laddie... This is Patagonia...
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    May 04th, 2018 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @ The Voice

    It would seem sensible that rather than wrecking the economies of BOTs that make money out of money, that some sort of levy is applied by the UK., but not an excessively punitive one. My attitude is that there are many other ways that countries make money from means that many countries find objectionable and why should BOTs be singled out for criticism and not other countries.

    May 06th, 2018 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    I agree Pete, a transaction levy is a practical solution, but the worse excesses need to be curbed.

    A nice way out of the present 'Malvinas' debacle would be for the Falklands to buy up Argieland. Looks like it could soon become affordable. ;-))))

    May 06th, 2018 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yaigulah3x

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    May 07th, 2018 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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