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Falklands delegation travels to Buenos Aires for fishery talks and data exchange

Thursday, May 10th 2018 - 18:14 UTC
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Next Monday, 14 May 2018 four representatives from the Falkland Islands Government’s Natural Resources Department will be part of a UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office lead delegation meeting with the Government of Argentina, in Buenos Aires, to begin two days of discussions on fish and squid stocks in the South Atlantic, and the possibility of resuming the exchange of scientific fisheries data for the benefit of the region. Read full article

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  • Think

    PERFECT...

    Just what Macri & Co. need at the moment...

    As always..., Kelpers..., your timing is impeccable...

    I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv you..., Chays... :-)

    May 10th, 2018 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Brit Bob

    Bit of a climb down from Argentina...

    When ratifying UNCLOS, (the United Nations Convention Law of the Seas), on 1 December 1995, Argentina made declarations and statements when signing regarding not accepting the territorial waters around the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. But what are the implications of this?

    Falklands – Territorial Waters: https://www.academia.edu/10574593/Falklands_Islands_Territorial_Waters

    May 10th, 2018 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    Indeed that's unfortunate timing, I assume the meeting was planned before the latest crisis in Argentina.

    Still, whatever part of the government is concerned with fisheries is hopefully not much involved in begging the IMF for money, and if they want to bury some bad news, now is the perfect time.

    May 10th, 2018 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Brit Bob- I think general consensus all round is- lets see if we can back to the good common sense days before the K Dynasty when we agreed to differ on the politically insoluble - but got on practically with that which was of economic and fish stock conservation management benefit to both sides in the South West Atlantic.

    May 10th, 2018 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brit Bob

    Islander1

    I agree.

    May 11th, 2018 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • GALlamosa

    This is good and sensible progress long in the planning. Let's hope it will also lead to discussions on the control of High Seas fishing which are long overdue.

    May 11th, 2018 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    What do some say about this reunion...:
    From min.04:00...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSjtIN_1IE

    May 12th, 2018 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Wow, I can't believe 'journalists' say shit like that on national TV. And I thought Nigel Farage was awful! It's not a wonder you're all so brainwashed.

    May 12th, 2018 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Tjaaaaaaa...
    He really doesn't like them Engrish..

    May 12th, 2018 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    He sounds like Conqueror, but you'll note that Conqueror is commenting on an obscure news website, not given a platform on TV. Is this the Argie version of the BNP or something?

    May 12th, 2018 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    O'Really...?

    Are you calling the Scottish Sunday Times “an obscure news website”...?
    It was the Scottish Sunday Times that some years ago gave a platform to AngloTurnip Conqueror to offer himself as volunteer to travel to Brasil, Argentina or any other Country whose representatives supported the Argentine side on the Falkland Malvinas issue..., and murder them...
    The SST lads were..., lets say..., a tad embarrased & uncomfortable..., when reminded by a humble Dago from Patagonia..., that the publication or difussion of such expressions of terrorism are completely illegal & severely punished under current UK law....
    On MercoPress pages..., Anglo Turnip Conqueror is on record..., asking for impalement of Argie mothers and their babies...

    A far cry from Mr. Cuneo..., I THINK...

    Anyhow... the Engrish Foreign & Colonial Office are again showing their ineptitude by not postponing this meeting to another date and providing tons of fuel to the Nationalist Molotovs...

    May 13th, 2018 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    No I'm not, I have no idea what you're referring to. Is this something he posted in the comments there, and did they take it down after you pointed it out?

    And okay, I agree Conq is worse, but he doesn't have his own TV show! Your Mr Cuneo was not exactly threatening violence but he said something like the 'Kelpers' should stay away, because they could not guarantee their safety, right? That sort of comment encourages viewers to think violence is an acceptable reaction - highly irresponsible, especially after seeing what happened to the Top Gear team.

    As for the FCO, yeah they should have kept an eye on events and postponed the meeting. It doesn't please me when they are incompetent. Macri's government also could have asked the FCO to postpone it since this is obviously a bad time for them, but the fact you're having this crisis in the first place pretty much implies they don't know what they're doing.

    May 13th, 2018 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Boy...

    One piece of advice...

    Don't start your argument by saying....***“ I have no idea what you're referring to”***... for immediately after showing that you do have an idea what the other person is referring to...
    It's too “Wifey”...

    And no..., they did NOT take the illegal comment down after that Patagonian Dago pointed it out...
    Anglo Turnip Conqueror patiotic voluntarism was permitted to linger there for months...

    You end complaiing about...: ***“Mr Cuneo was not exactly threatening violence but he said something like the 'Kelpers' should stay away, because they could not guarantee their safety, right?”***...
    Right...! Ain't that's exactly what Nationalist agitators are known for doing...?

    Stop always comparing pears with apples... It's silly...

    May 13th, 2018 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    I wouldn't know what sounds 'wifey', but since you're so determined to misunderstand me:

    I'd never heard of this incident with the SST before you mentioned it just now, and I'm sure you knew damn well I was referring to Mercopress when I said 'obscure news website'.

    I inferred what had happened based on what you said, but I wanted you to confirm I guessed correctly, which I assume from your most recent comment I did.

    Is that clear enough for you?

    I'm disappointed the website didn't take it down... if I had a subscription to any Murdoch organ I'd cancel it.

    “Ain't that's exactly what Nationalist agitators are known for doing...?”

    Well yeah. Trump often said things that skirted on being a threat during his presidential campaign, by talking about what his supporters would do if he was thwarted, but mostly stopped short of calling for them to do it.

    May 13th, 2018 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    The way we Patagonians wiew this Engrish/Macrish meeting...
    http://www.tiempofueguino.net/provinciales/gobierno-expresara-su-disconformidad-por-la-reunion-de-nacion-con-inglaterra-por-el-control-pesquero-en-las-aguas-del-atlantico-sur/

    May 14th, 2018 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Sounds like they're angry they weren't consulted. Bertone is a Kirchnerist, right? I don't think their objections make much sense; the agreement continued for several years after the constitution was changed so it obviously didn't prohibit it, and it's all under the sovereignty umbrella so it shouldn't matter that Islanders were at the meeting. At least they don't pretend Britain broke the agreement.

    But then, I don't think including the Falklands in the Tierra del Fuego province makes any sense. They were settled long before TdF and have never been part of it, not even in 1982. It's not the closest province and the flight doesn't call there. But more importantly, It's fundamentally meaningless to say they're part of any province when Argentina doesn't administer them, and if Britain ever was willing to negotiate, your government sure wouldn't insist on it if some other option could get them sovereignty.

    Including Antarctica is almost equally fictitious, but at least you do have scientific bases there. Are they under Bertone's jurisdiction?

    May 14th, 2018 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @DT

    “ But more importantly, It's fundamentally meaningless to say they're part of any province when Argentina doesn't administer them.”

    Precisely, they may as well say they administer Pluto.

    And it makes them sound extremely stupid.

    They have no forces that can impose their imperialist wishes on the Falklands.

    None of them save maybe a tiny handful of their supporters, were even born on the Falklands.

    Nothing they decree is being carried out on the Falklands.

    The names they use for place names aren't in use on the Falklands.

    The administrative paperwork they use in TDF is in a different language from that used on the Falklands.

    Nothing they say has any bearing on what happens in the Falklands.

    The history they spout about the Falklands are made up fairy stories.

    To the best of my knowledge Bertone and her mafia have not even set foot on the Falklands.

    They are essentially a lot of pompous, imperialist peacocks opening up huge tails and displaying bright feathers and many eyes that have no vision whatsoever.

    There's nothing so impotent of a load of cackling idiots, with no say whatsoever, over something they claim to run.

    I wonder if they've sorted out the sewers in Ushuaia yet?

    May 18th, 2018 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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