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“The Argentine claim to our Falkland Islands is unfounded and unwelcome”

Thursday, June 21st 2018 - 14:38 UTC
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”We have a right to live in peace, in freedom and to determine our own future”. “We have a right to live in peace, we have a right to our freedom and above all we have a right to determine our own future”, Falkland Islands elected lawmaker, MLA Ian Hansen told the United Nations decolonization committee or C24 on Wednesday, in New York. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    You would have to agree with the former Secretary-General of the UN.

    When questioned about the legitimacy of the proposed 2013 Falkland Islands referendum and asked about the lack of response from Great Britain to the resolutions of the UN, Ban Ki-Moon said: ''I do not believe that permanent members of the Security Council are in violation of the relevant resolutions of the United Nations. The impression is that people who live under these conditions should be able to obtain a certain level of capabilities so that they can decide on their own future. And this is the main criterion of the principle organs of the United Nations. Achieve the independence or that have a certain government of their territories. I do not think that is a matter of abuse or violation of the relevant resolutions of the UN.'' (From Ban Ki-moon - ''kelpers should be able to “decide on their future,” La Nacion 11 Nov 2012, quoting Tiempo Argentino interview with Moon, New York).

    Falklands – Freely Determined Political Status (1 pg):
    https://www.academia.edu/36555342/Falklands_-_Freely_Determined_Political_Status.pdf

    Jun 21st, 2018 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • chronic

    The UN should find a new host country.

    Jun 21st, 2018 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Surprisingly, the official UN Press Release for the Decolonization Committee's meeting of the 20th has still not been posted to its website - jumps from the 19th to the 21st. Someone must be objecting to its content. Hopefully something will appear eventually.

    https://www.un.org/press/en

    Jun 21st, 2018 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.falklands

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Anbar

    Rofl - Richard Gott article from the Grauniad... that's real desperation there - even the Grauniads readership tore his propaganda to shreds.

    I guess the KGB isn't paying his expenses anymore so he's peddling any old truth for any old bidders.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    Apologies. For reasons not explained the Meeting of the 20th appears under a press release dated the 21st. These releases are often delayed due to negotiation.

    Morecrap - no, the islands really do not belong to Argentina, which is why the Argentine does not fly there. Argentine fantasies may never “go away” but then it hardly matters as nothing changes. Only the Islanders may decide and that is the way it should be.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Brobinson

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Islander1

    Brobinson - Ha Ha - you and others have been saying Exactly the same words no for at least 3 years! And still its 25yrs ?- not down to 22!!

    Yes Morecrap is correct - your claim will never go away - simply because it will never come to you and you will be prattling on about it still in 2118 and 2218- what a group of fantasy desperados.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • gordo1

    Marquitos Alejandrito

    Some more of your childish meaningless out of date drivel! Just go away! You clearly abuse the freedom of speech afforded to you by Mercopress!

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Terence Hill

    Marcos Alejandro
    Gott resigned as literary editor of the Guardian in 1994 after it was alleged in The Spectator that he had been an “agent of influence” for the KGB, claims which he rejected, arguing that “Like many other journalists, diplomats and politicians, I lunched with Russians during the cold war”. He asserted that his resignation was “a debt of honour to my paper, not an admission of guilt”, because his failure to inform his editor of three trips abroad to meet with KGB officials at their expense had caused embarrassment to the paper during its investigation of Jonathan Aitken.
    The source of the allegation that he was an agent, KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky. In his resignation letter Gott admitted “I took red gold, even if it was only in the form of expenses for myself and my partner. That, in the circumstances, was culpable stupidity, though at the time it seemed more like an enjoyable joke”.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Gott

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    @RL
    Interesting that Syria, Russia and China, who have no obvious interest in the issue, were among the countries making statements. I suppose the common factor is that all have peoples within their borders who desire independence, which they have prevented by force.

    It's not as surprising that countries in the Americas would support Argentina, but not very hopeful when we have just lost our main support base by quitting the EU.

    The bit about Montserrat was unexpected, I didn't know their previous leader had asked for them to be taken off the list. Sadly it seems all too plausible that the UK government would refuse to invest in their infrastructure up front, even though that leaves them dependent on handouts which will cost us all much more in the end.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Rufus

    @Islander1

    It's like nuclear fusion - when I first came across it (my Dad was involved in some of the containment electronics/electrics on the European research reactors while I was at school) we were apparently thirty years away from it being a viable way to generate electricity in practical enough amounts to be called a power station.

    He's been retired for more than twenty years and we're apparently still thirty years away (assuming that everyone involved (the EU, the US, China, India, Russia, Japan, Switzerland and South Korea) continue to play well with others).

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Nothing much new here as far as I can see. Sr Faurie trying to convince the great unwashed that negotiations on sovereignty are just around the corner. No they are not. Sr Faurie seems like a nice man. Shame that one of his principle tasks is to keep Argentine hope alive whilst knowing there is none.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • shackleton

    The UN is so named after the USELESS NATIONS which use it as their soap-box.

    Why any decent country would continue to pour money into this gravy-train and megaphone for corrupt dictators is beyond comprehension.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    It's only beyond comprehension if you don't realise that 'decent' countries also get to use the UN as a megaphone and to aid their plans. Plus any country who quit would lose their voice and vote, and the five permanent members of the Security Council would also lose their veto.

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    This Argentine finds our claim to our Malvinas Islands most founded and welcome...

    Saludos del Think...

    Jun 22nd, 2018 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Don Alberto

    Shrink-brain from Chubut is as usual fabulating about some islands in the South Sea which went down with Atlantis.

    Jun 23rd, 2018 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • gordo1

    I am not sure that THINK is capable of really thinking - it's just he is so exited with his laptop that he is moved to make his silly comments from time to time!

    Jun 23rd, 2018 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - I don't believe that anyone spoke on this occasion that has not spoken on others. It's a pantomime, which, if it follows the usual course, will see the Decolonization Committee submit it's report to the Fourth Committee of the general Assembly, listing its recommendations. This recommendations will ask the UN GA to adopt all the Decolonization Committee's resolutions .................... except one.

    As far as I can see, the Decolonization Committee has not recommended its own resolution on the Falklands for adoption since 1988.

    This farce takes place every year. A deal was done in 1989/90 to which Argentina was a party. 30 years of nothing.

    Jun 23rd, 2018 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • portman

    well rehearsed, factual and honest speeches by elected members as has been the case in previous years. unfortunately, as in previous years, they continue not to be heard by a majority of deaf ears but continue to be appreciated by the already minority converted. in one sense it is a waste of time but it provides mlas with useful exposure to international forum and gives them some respite from domestic politics. under the constitution hmg retains responsibility for foreign affairs (and defence) so it could be argued that fig are operating outside their terms of reference which are limited to matters of internal self-government on the basis that internal means just that and therefore excludes anything to do with external matters. mlas are very quick to point out where they consider government committees operate outside terms of reference.

    Jun 23rd, 2018 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Portman
    As you say, the U.K. Government is responsible for foreign affairs, so don’t think for a minute that these diplomacy trips the MLAs make are not supported and facilitated by HMG.

    Jun 23rd, 2018 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • GALlamosa

    The UK Government has been highly supportive and encouraging, for the past decade or more, of MLA's to travel abroad and represent our own country. It is far more effective (and legitimate) than HMG diplomats trying to do it. In reality it is very much a joint effort.

    Jun 25th, 2018 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    The Falkland Malvinas Islands is NOT a colonial situation.
    It is an 'invasive situation' of a country onto the sovereign claim of another country.
    Britain was very clever to rush and register the conflict in 1946 at the U.N. as per the purpose of a “non self governing territory” in the list of held territories still under colonization, as it could steamroll forward no problems detected handling it as one would a well governed territory, supported in camouflage by the fact that its intentionally implanted inhabitants 10 years after the usurpation and removal of the Argentine, are British. It knew thus the conflict would not correlate to the way the committee is set up which is for the purposes of a “subjugated peoples” territory. Thus the dispute between the two countries continues to be stifled, or rather more precisely; allows Britain to move forward the entrenchment of its political-military power and the purposes of its Geo-dominance objectives unhampered, at the cheap expense of derisorating the significance of popper diplomacy and discussions with Argentina on the matter.
    THE ENGLISH ARE SIMPLY THE CLEVER CHEATERS OF THE WORLD, AREN'T THEY? Could these sorts of schemes be the reason the United Nations was created in the first place? To better cheat undetected other countries?

    Jun 25th, 2018 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    The UN begs to differ Pat, hence the Falklands being listed as a NSGT. The listing was proposed by the UK but had to be accepted by the UN. De-listing is also totally within the remit of the UN. At least two C24 Chairs have, in the last 6 years, called for the Falklands to be de-listed. Argentina has not supported such calls and the general Assembly have ignored them.

    There is no dispute. The UK considers the matter to be effectively settled. Argentina stands without a dance partner.

    Jun 25th, 2018 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jo Bloggs

    Patrick Edgar Regini

    How on earth is the Falklands an invasive situation? Why would the U.K. choose citizens from more than 30 different countries to settle here? Why wouldn’t they have just filled the place with U.K. military and U.K. citizens instead of going to the lengths of creating the demographics we have here. You make no sense. No wonder you get banned from various social media sites. You think you can continually spout this nonsense and hide behind the cover of not ever attacking anyone personally or ever losing your rag? You know full well that you insence people with your vile trash and when attacked you go crying to the admin of the media you are on. Absolutely pathetic. ‘Please Administrator, these nasty people are picking on me and I’ve done nothing wrong.’ WTF!

    Jun 26th, 2018 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “Why would the U.K. choose citizens from more than 30 different countries to settle here?”

    Beggers can't be choosers? ;)

    It's amusing that in the same thread we have Shackleton complaining the UN is a gravy train and megaphone for corrupt dictators, and Patrick Edgar who thinks it's some kind of conspiracy by the UK and US to cheat the rest of the world. Probably he'd agree with the Trumpists that the US should stop giving it money, but for completely different reasons.

    Jun 26th, 2018 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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