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Bolsonaro's “traditional values” reaches Brazilian school textbooks

Friday, January 11th 2019 - 12:27 UTC
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School textbooks in Brazil will no longer need to highlight the country's ethnic diversity under rule changes brought in under the government of new far-right President Jair Bolsonaro. Read full article

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  • Chicureo

    I cannot understand anyone worrying about stamping out “cultural Marxism” as much as possible.

    But, my goodness, this will really upset individuals focused on gender-identity “ideology.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiOjhkiuhw

    Jan 11th, 2019 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    Thats right you show every aspect of your perverted voyeurisms
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/39980/website-sells-phallic-prosthetics-prepubescent-frank-camp

    Jan 11th, 2019 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Terry

    Oh I feel your inexplicable pain, victims of transphobia like yourself who experience ridicule and the really horrible crime of misgendering.

    For some stupid reason, Bolsonaro believes children should be taught that there are just two human sexes. (One with a XY chromosome and the other with XX instead.) I know it must be frustrating for confused individuals like yourself and that's why I have attached an instructional video:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTqjHIYyHgc

    Jan 11th, 2019 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “So has an obligation for the textbooks to contain no spelling mistakes or printing errors.”

    Lol. Right-wing values. At least he hasn't mandated teaching of creationism... yet.

    Jan 12th, 2019 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    From the history of Socialist education. They actually tried forming a similar organization in Chile, but never materialized after September 1973.

    Quote:

    Under the Soviet system, the ruling Communist Party created a ladder of organizations for children, beginning with the Little Octobrists, informal groups in which children aged 7 to 9 prepared to become Young Pioneers. The Pioneers -- officially called the All-Union Pioneer Organization Named For Vladimir Lenin -- was created in 1922 for children aged 10 to 15. Taking the official Pioneer oath, the children promised “to passionately love my fatherland and to cherish it as well as I can, to live, study, and fight as the Great Lenin instructed, as the Communist Party teaches me, and always to carry out the laws of the Pioneers of the Soviet Union.”

    Jan 12th, 2019 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “Little Octobrists'. Damn, that's amazing.

    I promised to ”do my best to do my duty to God and to The Queen, to help other people and to keep the Scout Law.”

    PS. Approximately 1 in 1,500 births has characteristics intermediate between male and female. Bolsonaro wishes to teach children a lie, but what else can we expect from conservatives?

    Jan 12th, 2019 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    “has characteristics intermediate between male and female” ...yes, my wife likes to accuse me of suffering that affliction when I cowardly refuse to stand up to her sometimes ferocious arguments...

    Some backwards societies like my own have difficulty explains why it's a good idea to promote 12 year old transvestites...

    ...anyway, asexual persons certainly do exist and seems to be a growing trend...

    Jan 12th, 2019 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Heh, she's too generous.

    If you want my opinion, if we weren't so set on how genders should think and act there wouldn't be so damn many people wanting to switch. It's dumb, everyone's different anyway.

    And some of my friends claim to be asexual, I'm not even sure what it means.

    Jan 13th, 2019 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    “So has an obligation for the textbooks to contain no spelling mistakes or printing errors.”
    ”Lol. Right-wing values”.

    How do you conclude they are right-wing values ? I thought 'zero' mistakes was good....but what good 'left-wing' mistakes would you propose inserting in the text books ?

    Remember a few weeks ago I said that the continual discussion and emphasis on the (genetic, or percieved) “differences” just perpetuated divisiveness ? I say, forget the differences, just let people be who they are, or who they aren't...who cares ?

    Rgdng the textbooks though, seems to be some misinformation circulating - will explain: textbooks to be used in public schools are prepared one year in advance , th4 textbooks for use in 2020, were prepared in 2018.
    They are prepared by the publishing companies, based on the orientation given by the FNDE (Nat'l Fund for the Development of Education), i.e., what's to be included or excluded.
    Before going into print, need to be revised/approved by the FNDE, 'n such approval was given/ signed on 28 Dec 2018. So, all during the Temer admin.
    Beginning 2019, the books were revised again - this time under the auspices of Bolsonaro's Ministry of Education). Mistakes, both in concept and in grammar, were found. They will be corrected, and alterations will be made to include important issues which had been (deliberately ?) ignored/ommitted in 2018: the alterations being made (in a nutshell) will guarantee :
    1) the inclusion of the discussion of violence against women (and minorities), which has reached intolerable levels.
    2) the teaching of afro-descendant & indigenous history and cultures, portray them as important segments of society.
    3) the need to mention any bibliographic references.
    4) prohibition of propaganda /publicity (not sure exactly of what, but presumably ideological or business).

    I know you love to speculate on. 'n poke holes in B's policies, find things to criticize him about, so I'm sorry if I have disappointed you.

    Jan 17th, 2019 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    It was a joke, that alongside the ideological changes, they also removed the requirement for no errors in the books. It's just so appropriate, given the right-wing's long history (in the US) of trying to insert incorrect information like intelligent design into school textbooks. Of course they have to remove the requirement for no errors!

    “I say, forget the differences”

    It's easy to forget the differences when you are the one considered 'normal', appearing in every textbook, movie, and TV program, and everything is designed for you. It's not so easy to forget it when you are the different one.

    I just looked up more about these changes, this article says they were published on the 2nd of Jan, but B's administration are blaming Temer's, while Temer's education minister denies all knowledge:

    https://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/mec-anula-edital-que-liberava-livro-didatico-com-informacao-sem-fonte/

    A strange situation, but if that means the changes have been rescinded then I am happy. (Most of all the one allowing unsourced material, that was really not a good idea.)

    Jan 18th, 2019 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    The decision to ignore the “no error” requirement, awa the omission of other issues, was taken by Temer’s interim FNDE prez, who signed the order 28 Dec - under Temer's watch 'n 3 days before B took over.

    Textbooks for basic education should be limited to the subject they are dealing with, without personal opinions of authors, publishing companies or indoctrination material.

    When I said “forget the differences”, wasn't referring specifically to the textbooks, or how people might be depicted in them, but to previous comments we’ve exchanged on the matter.
    So, returning to 'differences', I'm not saying it's easy....but strangely enough, I find it's usually the people who believe they are “different”, who insist on emphasizing their “differences”....using them as a means to obtain some special status.

    I would expect a civilized, socially mature society to address any differences in a non-conspicuous manner, acceptable to all, but those who are, or feel different, love to make a meal out of it.

    I consider myself “normal”, n in this case define it as feeling comfortable in my own shoes, with no urge to judge others, or to mess with their heads, just because they are not the same as me.
    Not everything is designed for people like 'me' - remember the “quotas” for black actors/actresses in TV propaganda/ soap operas ? how abt blacks complaining becos neither Christ, nor Sta Claus are depicted as a black men ? On TV, the blacks occupy plenty of space...even have 'all /only black' shows. Try doing 'all white'....sh*t will happen.

    The 'exame.abril' article correctly states the rules covering the textbook contents (now to be corrected) were published in the “D.O.” on Jan 2nd ; despite this, Bolsonaro had nothing to do with them - the 'DO' usually takes 2 or 3 days to publish stuff signed into law, which explains why the order with the wrong set of rules, was published only 3 days later, on Jan 2nd.
    But just as well the mistakes were spotted in time

    Jan 19th, 2019 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    Awaiting further progress:
    https://i0.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/bososhake.jpg?resize=768%2C768&ssl=1

    Jan 20th, 2019 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Was this an attempt by someone in Temer's administration to slip the changes at the last minute in without authorisation? Or even to try and discredit the new government? Otherwise what was the point?

    “Textbooks for basic education should be limited to the subject they are dealing with, without personal opinions of authors, publishing companies or indoctrination material.”

    Of course, but that still leaves lots of room for argument over what topics should be included, how to interpret history and literature, and the most effective ways to teach eg reading and mathematics. I've seen lots of arguments over those, though I suppose Portuguese spelling is a lot more regular than English, so in Brazil it's obvious phonics is best.

    I would define feeling 'normal' differently: being comfortable in your own shoes, and never feeling that others are judging you or treating you differently because you're not the same as them.

    When I grew up most of the shows on TV were all white, and a few all black (imported from America). When were these quotas brought in in Brazil? I'm guessing it was long after you were an adult. And did this or any change happen naturally, or because people 'made a meal out of it'?

    Jan 20th, 2019 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @JB

    REF: Textbooks for basic education should be limited to the subject they are dealing with, without personal opinions of authors, publishing companies or indoctrination material.

    Absolutely 100% true, only if backed by Facts, Figures + Statistics & not based only on the opinions of whosoever.

    Jan 20th, 2019 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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