Wednesday, April 7th 2010 - 06:02 UTC

China insists on “gradual” reduction of soy imports from Argentina

China’s soybean oil traders may “gradually” delay or cancel imports from Argentina after the country toughened inspections, the China National Grain and Oils Information Center said early Wednesday from Beijing.

Argentina’s top agriculture expert Carlos Cheppi is currently in Beijing

Buyers may be forced to source from other suppliers such as Brazil, the state-backed market researcher said in an e-mailed daily report. Imports in 2009-2010 may plunge by 50% from a year ago to 1.2 million to 1.4 million metric tons after the move, it said.

China will this month start applying a standard, which has been in place but hasn’t been enforced, on residual solvent contained in soybean oil shipped from Argentina, which will effectively bar imports from the Latin American nation, four executives attending a meeting held by a government-backed trade group said March 31.

Meantime in Buenos Aires an Argentine soy industry official said he was optimistic negotiations will end the blockade by China on soybean oil imports.

“Two giants are fighting to see how they balance a trade balance, but it’s a normal trade dispute and nothing dramatic,” Miguel Calvo, vice president of the Argentine Soybean Chain Association, said today in a telephone interview from Buenos Aires. “It wouldn’t be convenient to take on negotiations without being optimistic about being successful in the end.”

Chinese importers began curbing exports from Argentina on April 1 after they said the Latin American country had accelerated cases of antidumping measures against Chinese imports. China is the world’s largest importer of soybean oil. Argentina is the biggest producer. The South American country is also the third-largest producer and exporter of soybeans.

Argentina’s Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana met with China’s Ambassador Zeng Gang in Buenos Aires Monday to discuss the blockade. The Argentine ambassador for agricultural affairs, Carlos Cheppi, is in Beijing negotiating an end to the blockade, the Agricultural Ministry said in an e-mail.

Argentina in November resolved a trade dispute with Brazil that stemmed from Argentina’s move to place import restrictions on textiles, tires and wood furniture to protect local industries amid the global financial crisis. Brazil, Argentina’s main trade partner, retaliated with similar restrictions.

Argentine soybean oil exports to China for 2010 are estimated to reach about 2 billion US dollars, according to the Buenos Aires-based financial consulting group Abeceb. The Argentine government may lose about 600 million USD from export tax revenues, according to Abeceb
 

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1 JustinKuntz (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 07:56 am Report abuse
“Two giants are fighting to see how they balance a trade balance”

Really if nothing illustrated how Argentina deludes itself, that phrase says it all.
2 jorge! (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 08:25 am Report abuse
not a surprise that comment.
3 JustinKuntz (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 01:38 pm Report abuse
GDP US$ 4,758,000M People's Republic of China
GDP US$ 301,300M Argentina

Order of magnitude difference, 1 giant, 1 pygmy.
4 jorge! (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 01:55 pm Report abuse
....“Chinese importers began curbing exports from Argentina on April 1 after they said the Latin American country had accelerated cases of antidumping measures against Chinese imports.”...

- Chinese revenge for antidumping measures!!!! It will work out!!!
5 JustinKuntz (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 03:32 pm Report abuse
“Chinese revenge for antidumping measures”

Or as everyone else sees it, a Chinese response to Argentine protectionist measures to prop up a failing industry that can't compete otherwise.
6 jorge! (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 04:41 pm Report abuse
jajaja its funny. When are you gonna lift your protectionism with regard to agricultural goods????
Is that sector of your economy so uncompetetive????
I bet it is!!!!
7 JustinKuntz (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
Actually no, UK agriculture is very competitive, its the most efficient in Europe. Thats even with the animal welfare rules that British farmers have to comply with compared with their Danish colleagues for example.
8 NicoDin (#) Apr 07th, 2010 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
@JustinKuntz if we are pygmy what are you?
Argentina can feed easily 300 million people while UK cannot feed its self.
Your main job is the printing paper with the face of the Eli II on it.
What can you export from Britain a part of Brits expats looking for a job in other countries?
9 jorge! (#) Apr 08th, 2010 - 12:49 am Report abuse
7 JustinKuntz, you could be the most competetive of europe, but not more than Argentina or Brasil. Why don't you lift your barriers to our goods???
You didn't answer!

UK is today thanks to Tatcher (I think) a country which economy is based mostly on financial services, not much real produccion there, that's why you cannot yet get out of the global downturn as many countries did. I'm not an economist, but I've read that.
10 J.A. Roberts (#) Apr 08th, 2010 - 07:43 am Report abuse
Actually Jorge, manufacturing output accounts for about 20% of the British economy and employs about 14% of the workforce and that's not counting the service industry associated with manufacturing, so your assertion that there is ”not much real produccion (sic) there” is simply untrue.
11 globetrotter (#) Apr 08th, 2010 - 11:04 am Report abuse
Regulation of, and stringent standards within the chinese food industry are not as consistent as the EU, US, or most other food producing and exporting countries for that matter. There have been several scandals leading to the death of many people, including babies (most recently) after melanine was found in milk powder. In it's efforts to tighten controls, and improve standards of quality, the China Ministry of Commerce, tested imported soya oil from argentina. Solvent residues in the oil came to approx 300ppm. Reasonably normal however, at the conference of major traders in soya oil, it was proposed to lower the acceptable residue limit to 100ppm. As is common in China, some pratt convinced the other pratts at the conference without realising that this reduced level is almost unachievable. Truth of the matter is that, China is reacting to Argentine beligerence over Chinese imports...to some degree justified however, the Chinese opinion is, Quote: “that restrictions should have bee made earlier, as the South American country was aggressive and unreasonable while banning chinese goods”...unquote by Wu Guoping senior researcher Chinese Academy of Social Sciences for South America.
12 globetrotter (#) Apr 08th, 2010 - 11:05 am Report abuse
We stand to lose approx. 600 million usd. unless we import more trash.
13 jorge! (#) Apr 08th, 2010 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
10 J.A. Roberts, let me read more about that since I don' trust you.

11globetrotter, you are right.

12globetrotter, when you say “we”, who are you refering to????
14 globetrotter (#) Apr 09th, 2010 - 01:04 am Report abuse
13. I thought it was obvious...
15 jorge! (#) Apr 09th, 2010 - 01:49 am Report abuse
14 globetrotter, I don't consider you an argentinean, that's why I asked.
16 globetrotter (#) Apr 09th, 2010 - 04:23 am Report abuse
15. Jose, you can consider me for whatever you wish, I have no objections :-) Besides, I have neither need for, nor reason to justify anything, since I know who I am, and where my roots lie.
17 J.A. Roberts (#) Apr 09th, 2010 - 07:15 am Report abuse
10 J.A. Roberts, let me read more about that since I don' trust you.

Perhaps you should read about these things before you go around making claims you cannot substantiate. A bit like the Argentine claim over the Falklands...

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