Wednesday, December 1st 2010 - 08:05 UTC

Argentina “surprised” US intelligence gathering was done by diplomatic channels

In what is considered to be the first official statement by the Argentine government in the Wikileaks scandal, Argentine ambassador to the UN Jorge Argüello said on Tuesday that the released documents “are a delicate matter that will put the US at least in an embarrassing position.”

Former cabinet chief Massa described the late Kirchner as a “psychopath” and said Cristina Kirchner “followed orders”

Argüello said he was “surprised” not because he didn't think that intelligence operations were taking place, but because they were gathered through a diplomatic channel.

“This very is surprising” he said after being asked about the alleged accusations that the US had conducted intelligence-gathering operations at the UN headquarters.

“We should read the content of the cables that still have not been released in order to see if any controversial activities took place,” he explained. Ambassador Argüello said that most of the information hadn't made public yet.

“I'm not being pressured about the cables in which our country is being mentioned,” he clarified, although he acknowledged that it was a “grave, serious situation.”

”So far (the US government) has not denied the veracity of any of the documents,” he concluded.

Meantime the Spanish newspaper El País published new diplomatic cables released by the WikiLeaks organization which state harsh criticisms of former Cabinet Chiefs to the ‘Kirchner First Couple’.

According to the cables the mayor from the city of Tigre assured that the one who runs the Argentine government was (former president) Néstor Kirchner and that President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner “followed orders.”

The cable states that during November 2009, Tigre Mayor Sergio Massa and his wife, Malena Galmarini participated of a dinner in which he revealed details about working with late former President and said he was a “psychopath,” a “monster,” whose “bully approach” to politics shows his sense of inferiority. He also considered that the President (Cristina Fernandez) “would be better off without him.”

According to US ambassador in Argentina, Vilma Martínez, Massa's wife “told him repeatedly to lower his voice,” El País states.

The Spaniard publication also stated that the ex Cabinet Chief considered that the Kirchner couple “did not have the chance to win the 2011 presidential election”.

El Pais reports that according to cables, another former Cabinet Chief Alberto Fernández “also blasted the Kirchners, although he was discrete”.

“He assured that Néstor Kirchner had a better competence reputation than his wife, but he could not win the 2011 presidential election,” stated the cable according to El País.

Asked to comment on the cables the former Cabinet Chief Alberto Fernández, denied that he had had conversations with the current US Ambassador to Argentina, Vilma Martínez, but did not reject the documents released by WikiLeaks organization and published by the Spanish newspaper, El País.

“What they published are public declarations; those are not things I went to the embassy to say” Fernández assured.

According to the cable, Fernández “blasted the Kirchner, although he was discrete. He assured that Néstor Kirchner had a better competence reputation than his wife, but he could not win the 2011 presidential election”. (BAH).-
 

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1 Viscount Falkland (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 12:03 pm Report abuse
The cable states that during November 2009, Tigre Mayor Sergio Massa and his wife, Malena Galmarini participated of a dinner in which he revealed details about working with late former President and said he was a “psychopath,” a “monster,” whose “bully approach” to politics shows his sense of inferiority. He also considered that the President (Cristina Fernandez) “would be better off without him”

This is all very different to the 'Fine statesman' stuff we heard recently !
2 lsolde (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
he was a warmonger to us
3 xbarilox (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
I wonder if the USA will still be part of the UN Security Council. It pretty much looks like they know nothing about Security. And then you have those Brits insisting on going to the ICJ, hahaha, the USA, the UK are countries so renowned for having a real sense of justice, moral and honesty.
4 Zethee (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
xbarilox: If argentina does not trust the UN and it's ICJ, perhaps Argentina should leave the UN?
5 xbarilox (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
We don't trust the UN, that's why we don't leave the UN.
6 WestisBest (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
Do you Argies trust anybody?
7 Zethee (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
Basicly, you're full of crap.
8 stick up your junta (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
Do you Argies trust anybody?

Xbox is a Chilean troll
9 briton (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
so the yanks think the argies are quacks as well. Thats nothing new then,
but then did we all expect anything less ??, so south America can go back to sleep, Argentina can go back to screaming threats, the Islanders can ignore them, and the brits can put the earplugs in, and the result stands, falklands are british, and the argies keep on dreaming, [over to you] lol
10 Beef (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 10:24 pm Report abuse
Nothing in wikileaks has come as a surprise. Saudi Arabia hate Iran, CFK should be in a loony bin etc. etc.

I wanted to find out some juicy gossip not stuff that was already obvious. More exciting looking at the sp of DES for the past three days. Now that gets the pulse racing.
11 xbarilox (#) Dec 01st, 2010 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
“Nothing in wikileaks has come as a surprise. Saudi Arabia hate Iran, CFK should be in a loony bin etc. etc.” Nothing in Wikileaks has come as a surprise. The US is the same scumbag, as usual. Now that gets Latin America more united than ever. Well, those countries that consider themselves as Latinoamericanos ;)
12 J.A. Roberts (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 01:51 am Report abuse
“Latin America... more united”

Hmm, a bit of a contradiction in terms.
13 xbarilox (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 02:00 am Report abuse
J.A.Roberts, you obviously can't read, I said those countries that consider themselves as Latinoamericanos :) There are countries that don't consider themselves as Latinoamericanos :) Those countries don't count.
14 J.A. Roberts (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 08:42 am Report abuse
No xbox. You said: “Now that gets Latin America more united than ever.”

As I said: “Latin America... more united” - a contradiction in terms. You guys just talk about being united, but when it comes down to it you'll scrap over a mate and bombilla...
15 NicoDin (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 09:20 am Report abuse
Even the Yanks know how serious the stuff its about. They weree concern about if we will test some fireworks down there.
The Islanders are in state of denial they have no idea how they are endanger their existence by bulling a big lion with cat face.
16 Zethee (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
^ Crazy people are funny.
17 WestisBest (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
Empty threats are also funny,

“they have no idea how they are endanger their existence by bulling a big lion with cat face”

'endanger our existance' Ohhhhhh! scary....

I kind of curious about it mind, how exactly does one 'bull a big lion with cat face'?
18 briton (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Argentina takes Falklands’ sovereignty claims to the supermarket chain,
Aked why, argentina replied , well no one ese is listening to us, so we thought we would try the supermarkets, theres lots of people there,
[very clever]
19 Denrich (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
“Latin America... more united”

Hahaha, what a laugh, Argentina is the most hated country in S A.
The Chilians, Brazilians & Uraguyans are only humouring your sad afair for the sake of trade, all three countries have good relations with the UK. So sorry Argentina when it comes to the crunch you stand alone....

Well OK maybe Chavez, but to be honest if he's your best hope then God help you.
20 briton (#) Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
well if you put argentina and chavez together, do they realy need friends ??

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