Letters of Sympathy to Flood Victims
The Falkland Islands Government has sent letters to the leaders of Australia and Brazil following the devastating floods the two countries have undergone recently.
Floods in Australia will reportedly cost the country 30 billion Australian dollars to repair and Prime Minister Julia Gillard has hinted that a new government tax will be created to rebuild the areas affected. All Australians will have to pay the charge.
Meanwhile in Brazil the flash flooding and mudslides is one of the country’s worst natural disasters with the death toll now at over 700 people and fears of an epidemic are increasing.
The Falkland Islands Government has sent letters to Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff expressing the Islanders “deepest sympathy” with the people, following the recent tragedies.
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Dilma Rousseff just denied you entry to port and you're sending letters, I don't think sending letters from an illegal colony is a very sensible thing to do. I doubt the letter ever got to her.
You think your pathetic argument is so important all the time, and it isn't, some people have suffered tragedies due to flooding, and anyone would reasonably understand that it is more important to send their condolences than maintain petty squabbles with immature people like yourself.
You really are beneath contempt.
And now the tables have turned... but you're still at it with your false English cavalry, a premeditated attempt to gain some kind of sympathy from Brazil. They want nothing to do with you and I don't blame them, keep your letters, your fake flag, your warships... all that garbage away from South America.
Don't worry pirate, we're there for each other, we don't need you.
It says that the FIG sent letters .... the FIG .... that's the point.
Taking a leaf out of Argentina's book, if you tell enough people then maybe they'll remember something. Now maybe these countries, along with Chile who had letters after the earthquake, will remember that the FI have a G ....
Then all the UK has to do is hand over the foreign and diplomatic responsibilities to the FIG whilst keeping defence and the FIG start turning up at more and more places representing themselves ....
Good experience for eventual independence :-)
Only the UK, with everything that's going on, would be stupid enough to think that Brazil can't see through your schemes. Exploiting a tragedy for political reasons is something Dilma Rousseff won't forget.
Divide Et Impera, England's true royal seal , try that next time instead of “FIG” then maybe it'll seem sincere and official. ;-)
Nice human gesture with all those “Malvinas” lettters.
But let's concentrate on the really important things here in life!
CAN I GET THE STAMPS? ... MAY I GET THE STAMPS?... MAY I? ... THE STAMPS ...........PLEEEEASE :-)
Is nothing sacred to you Argentines.
To change direction, Kiwi and Martin, you know where the Islands are. If you want them, come and get them.
“colonialstamps.com” ;-)
Beef, really moving... brought a tear to my eye
You say:
”This is not through the act of man and is beyond politics.”
I say:
Are you trying to be funny or just using a “golden opportunity” to insult?
The very reason for the existence of those letters is political…..
The only reason for mentioning them here is political…
They are nothing more than political documents…
Neither money nor practical help attached…
The only one in Brazil or Australia getting anything positive from those letters will be some undersecretary’s little kid getting a couple of funny stamps for his/her treasury box.
If every action in Argie eyes has another motive then this must be a sign or a symptom of the paranoia endemic in Argentine society.
Anyway, more important and profitable things to be getting on with!
Excuse our “paranoia” lad....
Excuse us if we interpreted this article as just another opportunity to “wave the flag”
Excuse me for noticing the strikingly adecuate picture adorning the heading of this article.
The UK? Nothing, it was the British Red Cross that donated £50,000 for which I truly admire, given that they had their hands full already. Other UK-based aid organizations offered help, but not the government.
Oh but wait! They did send a nice letter from their colony of pirates with “FALKLAND ISLANDS GOVERNMENT” written all over it, I'm sure that helped.
Funny, I don't see your pirate flag on the list of humanitarian response to the Chile earthquake.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_to_the_2010_Chile_earthquake
Really... don't worry about South America, we've got it.
Is Argentina that insecure or simply inadequate?
I'm hearing violins in the background!
Friday, June 4th, 2010
Together with a donation of £5,000 from the Falkland Islands Government, residents have raised over £26,000 to help towards the rebuilding of 800 homes in the Chilean town of Lolol in the province of Calchagua. Catastrophic damage to the area was caused when an 8.8 magnitude quake hit on the 27th February this year.'as for all the comments coming from the mainland you are all beneath contempt.
Don’t be such a prude………………
My comments are about this particular article, immodestly informing the world about a sympathy letter to Brazil whilst graphically waving your flag in front of their dead…………………
A perfect example of morbid, cynical bad taste.
“using catastrophes for political gain is what's beneath contempt”
you RG's are the ones putting a political spin on this story, do you believe there's an ulterior motive behind everything? paranoid or what.
“Don't try to talk down to me Brit”
Oooh, listen to the big man, how tough are you eh?
Well…….
We already know that…. Don’t we?
What I find of extremely bad taste is their choice of a picture of their flag, flying at full mast, to “illustrate” this article……………
As far as Mercopress, we all know what will happen if we question their motives for posting these type of articles. Don't we? ;-)
Think - Mercopress put a picture in this story, so what? It is a picture of a flag, and saying that the flag is being waved at Brazil's victims is getting a bit far fetched. The focus of the story is that a group of people are demonstrating their sympathy with another group. The fact that you bunch of nutters are responding to the picture of a flag shows how separated you are from reality. I suppose you think the Isladers are actually reveling in the death of countless civilians (that us the way it is coming accross).
If you don't like Mercopress then go somewhere else. I suggest you spend more time with your clinical psychologists if you think that a letter of condolence to Brazil and Australia is in any way offensive or insulting.
Martin - we will talk down to you if we want to. It is called freedom of expression, if you don't like it then so what. Right back to this chapter and a cup if tea!
dear Beef..
you know who is Rashid Ganushi..pro-Islamist..a Tunisian cult leader....
you know he has been living in London fo many years...why ?
would he go back to his native country ?
Thanks.
Sincerely yours.
The only thing that is “far fetched” here is the choice of that particular picture.
Odd you can’t see it…
You are usually pretty good at spotting and commenting about any Argentinean use of propaganda, encoding, indoctrination, brainwashing, subliminal messages and even the occasional Royal Mail crap-inn…………..
Back on the subject... How did Mercopress know about this 'letter from the FIG' to Dilma Rousseff?
Anyone?
join this discussion !
Martin_Fiero...you know that our discussions have not been
limited by these fordable articles...
Uhhhhh...............
That's a difficult one!
Could you please repeat the question?
31#MartinFiero # 31# ....anyone ?
you must ask to Mercopress ,of course first you'll must find out
their adress .. wont you !!
Its a beautiful flag , don't you think so ? Whatever.... it still flies proud and high over that Island paradise, known as the Falkland islands.
So tell me Think, when the Brazilian and Australian Administrations cpme to file the letters as all efficient administrations do ..... what will be the name on the file ???
:-)
Well it's just possible that they got it from a press release from Penguin News, not very exciting eh?
Return it to them!!!
I can live with that!!
Governments all over the world send letters to other governments when things like this happen offering there sympathy, it's not an unusual custom. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.
You say:
Well it's just possible that they got it from a press release from Penguin News, not very exciting eh?
I say:
Nope, not very exciting......
As a matter of fact, so little exciting that Penguin News has not writtren a word about this story...
At least........I can't find it.
Would you please direct me to where it is or eventually cut and paste the article?
Thanks in advance
El Think
Can you direct me to how your letter is related to this story or the lunacy it has initiated from a Psychiatirc ward of a major Argentine hospital?
Access to ports in S America? Please list the ports that have announced they are closed to private and commercial(not naval) vessels operating to and from the Islands? I think you will find that other UNASUR Countries gave verbal support to Argentina but clarified it by staying within international law.Vessels even come here regularily from Argentine ports!
33 Think,
Nevermind, haha
It doesn't matter, Brazil probably threw the stupid letter in the trash, if there ever was a letter which now... I doubt it.
Here's some thoughts for you c**ksuckers. In 2010, Haiti suffered a major earthquake. I've just been reading about it. Did you know that aid, including relief and search and rescue workers, arrived from such places as the Dominican Republic, the United States, Britain, Canada, Israel, Chile and Sri Lanka.
Other South American countries, notably Argentina and Brazil, apparently did nothing. Strange that, isn't it?
This is all utterly contemptible. When the Chilean earthquake happened, Falkland Islanders raised a massive amount of money. It came from children' pocket money, raffles, dances......all because of the sympathy we felt for our Chilean friends and neighbours.
You can turn it into something squalid and mean if you like; all it does is show us, once again, why we don't want anything to do with you.
I only hope that Argentina is populated in the main by decent and sane individuals who bear little resemblance to the nut jobs we get on here.
“Other South American countries, notably Argentina and Brazil, apparently did nothing”
Apparently, aside from being hateful and not very bright, Typhoon's also a liar.
Brazil was the first country to deliver financial aid to aid following last year's earthquake: www.terradaily.com/reports/World_Bank-managed_Haiti_aid_fund_only_20_percent_full_999.html
”A 500-million dollar pledge of aid for Haiti quake relief promised three months ago is only 20 percent full, the World Bank said Wednesday.
(...)
“Cox said that so far Brazil had donated 55 million dollars, Norway 31 million, Australia 8.6 million, Colombia 3.2 million and Estonia 50,000 dollars.”
As of July 2010, Brazil was the country that most contributed financially to the aid fund. Where's US, UK, and Israel, you pubescent wanker?
And this is Unasur aiding Haiti by shipping medicines:
en.mercopress.com/2010/10/26/unasur-begins-shipping-medicines-and-aid-to-fight-outbreak-of-cholera-in-haiti
Again, what were you saying, Typhoon?
Actually, the US then Canada spent the most on hati but yes i agree brazil did a lot to help out with hati, it's very commendable.
As far as i know the US sent 17 ships and like 10,000 men to help out along with spending over a billion.
The UK sent a navy supply ship several planes with aid about 40 million in aid, search and rescue personnel doctors firefighters search dogs and heavy equipment.
EU sent 600 million.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_to_the_2010_Chile_earthquake
I love what Russia did, they sent two planes from the ass-end of the world with humanitarian aid.
www.news.com.au/breaking-news/aid-influx-begins-in-chile/story-e6frfku0-1225836326062
UK-based aid organizations did help, a lot, but the government itself? Too busy drilling for oil, sorry!
Again, I don't see your fake “FIG” flag on the list, and your efforts to separate the UK from the “FIG” are futile, you are one and the same.
Provide sources. Every nation on earth pledged some aid to Haiti the first weeks after the earthquake. But the link I showed asserted that few had actually delivered. Six months after the earthquake, the US and Canada had not even begun to send the cash. And be that as it may, that's not even my point. The point is that Typhoon - who on other threads tend to spout “Aryan Nation”-like racist discourse when referring to Latin American countries and peoples - told a lie about South American aid to Haiti in order to glorify American, British and Israeli assistence - which is apparently fictional assistence - to that nation.
I think we should hand the “Divide Et Impera” royal seal to Mercopress though, they're doing a better job than the UK ever did.
”Donors promised $5.3 billion at an aid conference in March, about two months after the earthquake -- but less than 2 percent of that money has been handed over so far to the United Nations-backed body set up to handle it.
Only four countries have paid anything at all: Brazil, Norway, Estonia and Australia.
The United States pledged $1.15 billion. It has paid nothing (...).”
www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/07/14/haiti.donations/index.html
Well, promising aid is surely good PR. But you know, delivering it actually costs money.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_by_national_governments_to_the_2010_Haiti_earthquake
It's on this list.
“the US and Canada had not even begun to send the cash.”
What your link says it that not all the money promised to the world bank was recieved. Less than a third of all the money that went to hati went through the world bank.
The US gave aid through it's military personel and ships it had in the area. same as canada and the EU.
www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jan/14/haiti-quake-aid-pledges-country-donations
Freedom of expression and valuable dialogue are important to analyze and critique current affairs but all sense of the responsibility that goes with free debate has been lost in this particular case.
Still waiting for that list of ports?
Message to MercoPress.......
Maybe you could just lower that flag to half-mast?
To show a little respect.............
It's the same story you linked earlier about the World Bank.
The world bank wasn't the only way that hati relief and aid was given. Most nations have sent supplies and/or personnel instead of money, and/or they pledged or sent money outside of United Nations channels.
For example. US aid is distributed through the military and through the U.S. Agency for International Development. The world bank money was as the story says, tied up in legistation. This does not mean that they were not there helping give the country aid. Direct military aid was set at $379 million and the world bank money has now been delivered even if rather late.
In all honesty i think the US Canada and Brazil sould be congratulated with the efforts they did during the hati situation.
Absolutely not, the flag must continue to fly high over our magnificent Falkland Islands. Naturally our sympathy to the victims of the terrible disasters in Brazil and Australia remains.
65
GSY.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPoVuY2cIs
I feel sorry for you. You're a liar and a disgrace, but it's you that look ridiculous and 'futile'. We know what we are and what we do and what you say or believe doesn't actually matter at all.
65 Marcos Alejandro
'These fake letters and that flying colonial sheep above backfire in their faces'
What's this all about Marcos? What's a fake letter? You aren't making any sense. I do know however that there are plenty of people who recognise a genuine gesture whenthey see it. We have had a very good relationship with most of South America over the years and that doesn't just disappear because you wish it.
Sorry but Brazil din not buy it, nice try .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A03_p8c-Lk&feature=related
You say:
“We have had a very good relationship with most of South America over the years and that doesn't just disappear because you wish it.”
I say:
Try, for a minute, to “think out of the box”.....
Why is that relationship dissapearing then?
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I said:
“Think out of the box”........... OUT of that freaking box.........., girl.....
Marcos - Thrill of your life. That is what Argentines thought in 1982? Against the military junta at one point and then the next minute you loved them. When you were embrassed you hated them again.
By the way this debate has gone then embarrasment is an Argentine hobby.
“Me thinks “Islander1” is someone called Dean Hunt, the most self-deluded Kelper on the planet... I would recognize his lies and sheer madness anywhere.”
If you mean Dean K Hunt: (www.facebook.com/pages/Buggar-off-Argentina-the-Falklands-are-BRITISH/326045354441#!/profile.php?id=100001284350613) then you're incorrect, he's no Falkland Islander, I'd hazard he's ex-military.
How did it go?
keep still ....sit and take a breath .. please !
Just funny to see the constuctive contributions of the resident dunce Marcos.
aside from everything,you are our worthy friend !
1 Hamster (#)
Jan 16th, 2011 - 07:47 am
“ If only HMS Clyde was allowed to dock in Rio, there would of been extra people to help in the rescue effort. Shame really, lives are being wasted due to Argentina yet again”
en.mercopress.com/2011/01/14/brazil-flood-deaths-rise-to-500
Do we need to spell it out to you or is that extra chromosome you have further stunting your intellectual capacity?
Perhaps you should research a little more than the two identical storys you've found. I'm not sure how i can explain it in more simple terms than i already did.
The US pledged over a billion in aid money to the World bank's Interim Haiti Recovery Commission. The money was tied up in legistation because of some reason or other that was already ongoing when this whole thing started. This money did get there even though it was late:
www.cirh.ht/sites/ihrc/en/pledges/Pages/default.aspx
They also sent the US navy and 16,000 troops to help directly, these ships would continue to give aid to hati - this was first set at $100 million but quickly grew to $379 million:
www.kens5.com/home/Less-than-1-penny-going-to-Haiitian-government-82823762.html
”Other shareholders can join by contacting desiredisaster@ btinternet.com.“
Thursday, 20 January 2011
A group of furious investors are demanding at least £350,000 in compensation over a botched announcement in December.
Shares soared by as much as 50 per cent on December 2 when Desire claimed it had made an “oil discovery” at its Rachel well.
Just four days later Desire said further tests showed the hydrocarbons were in fact water.”
Think out the box....out of the freaking box.... girl.
I say
Get back in your box.... boy.
Your link shows something that has perplexed me quite a bit. That wanker countryman of yours, Typhoon, swore that Britain had afforded much help to Haiti. But in fact, according to your link, the UK is THE ONLY major European economy not to have contributed a penny in aid. The only one. Talk about being an asshole. Argentina, on the other hand, contributed with 17 million dollars.
“They also sent the US navy and 16,000 troops to help directly”
I wasn't talking about troops. But since we are here, do you know why the US is no longer the head of the UN peacekeeping mission in Haiti? Because of suspicions as to the US role in the overthrow of the democratically elected Haitian president Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004. Before the coup, the US headed the Minustah.
But you're right, the US sent many troops there after the earthquake. So many, in fact, that an editorial on ChinaDaily asked whether the US was planning the annexate Haiti as its 51st state. But it's all about aid, of course.
“these ships would continue to give aid to hati - this was first set at $100 million but quickly grew to $379 million”
Many other countries sent aid in the first weeks after the disaster, as links I showed above assert. Such aid came as food, medicine, and medical equipment. Most haven't published numbers as for how much it costs in dollars. The US did, though. It makes good propaganda, after all. Unless of course a Third World country like Venezuela can afford to help more.
But why do you raise an issue unrelated to this story. Has your brain cell ran out of ideas?
www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail/?display=discussion&code=cotn%3ADES.L&thread=7650371&it=le&action=list
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20/01/2011 - 20:51 -
Ancelotti
If it does end up with the curtains falling on the North Falkland Basin, then there may be another war.
................We'll be fighting to give the Island back to the Argies.
However, I think that the Argies will fight tooth and nail to ensure that we keep them.
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Are you being serious or are you honestly the dumbest person on this website? I'm not really sure if you're taking the piss or not.
Having to explain simple things to you that is freely available on the internet and then you still getting it completely wrong, Is honestly making me loose the will to keep breathing.
I need a drink.
Good job Beef!
In the North Sea, ten companies went to the wall in the early days. It could happen to DES and that is life but what the other iii poster forgets is the RKH find.
There will be no new war in the Falkland Islands as Argentina does not have the stomach for military confrontation.
You should read the postings more thoughtfully….
At post No.90; Mr. Ancelotti speculates about the North Falklands Basin “collapsing” if and when Rockhopper doesn’t find Oil in their next two holes.
Then he jokes about forcing Argentina to take those worthless Islands back; by military force if necessary :-)))
That won’t be necessary……..
We will always be glad to reincorporate those bleak but uninviting Islands to our Motherland.
But please, before leaving, do remember to remove all your settlers……………..
The current drill is outside of the discovery area and may not be a find but the second drill is an appraisal with a much higher cos!
While these are exciting prospect I am waiting for the South and East Basins to get drilled. Things will get very interesting from then.
They have remained a BOT before any oil and will do if no HC industry emerges. As you will probably agree, the fallout of 1982 invasion and subsequent British victory has had a huge impact on the cultural identities of Britons, Argentineans and Falkland Islanders and as such the Islands became integral to the British Identity during the neo-liberal turn (a largely unidirectional move after the collapse of European communism).
As such there is no conceivable way in which the rights of self-determination of the Islanders could be betrayed by a UK government.
You say:
“As you will probably agree, the fallout of 1982 invasion and subsequent British victory has had a huge impact on the cultural identities of Britons..... and as such the Islands became integral to the British Identity
.....As such there is no conceivable way in which the rights of self-determination of the Islanders could be betrayed by a UK government.”
I say:
I couldn’t disagree more.... ………….
Given the right socioeconomic conditions in the UK, the right uselessness of the Malvinas and the right indispensability of the South-American market; it would be a “piece of cake” for any British government to be pragmatic.
Perhaps the only thing you should explain is why you said Brazil, Norway, Australia, Colombia and Estonia were the only four nations in the world to send aid to hati
Personally, i never mentioned Venezuela because i had not found any links about the level of there involvment in the hati earthquake untill i read cirh. Very commendable of them. The press has not given Venezuela enough credit for the role it's done, it is hardly mentioned in any storys.
As long as Britain sent some aid, then that’s ok, after all I don’t think they care were it comes from, as long as it keeps coming, the world for some reason is becoming very unstable, tornadoes floods typhoons
Earthquakes’ tsunamis’ snow blizzards what the hell next ??
Your link takes me to a stupid Facebook group…
63 Islander1,
haha now I know for sure you're Dean Hunt, and you're no ex-military… you're an obsessed little puppet-face, a clown.
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Again, and again.. and again. This article is about the UK using a catastrophe for political gain. Nothing else, no matter how hard to you try to convolute the issue, it is the UK that is beneath contempt.
Nothing you can say will change that.
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64 Think
Amen to that.
'.....it is the UK that is beneath contempt. Nothing you can say will change that. '
Glad to see that you haven't got anything aginst Falkland Islanders. This article is about us and how friendly and sympathetic we are, after all.
That aside, can I ask what you are doing here? If nothing anyone can say can change anything for you, there are plenty of other places you can go to talk to others who think just as you do.
You've really cheered me up today. I saw a message from Dick Sawle asking people what they thought MLAs should be doing in response to developments in our foreign affairs. I think I have a fair idea now of what really annoys imbeciles like you! I'll be passing on the message loud and clear.
The UK should have sent the letter as the UK, not as the fake “FIG”. You can argue all you like until this article reaches 200 comments but it'll circle back to the truth, it's inevitable.
Our PM personally called the Austrailian PM to give him our condolences, he also personally sent a letter to the Brazilian president.
“No, most nations in the world share the distinction of being official and legally established. ”#
So your argument is now that people can't be sympathetic if there government is not a internationally recognized government.
Great logic there.
This article is about the UK using a catastrophe for political gain, the UK and the “FIG” are one and the same.
See? Right back to the truth, you can't squeal your way out of it, not when it's this simple.
And I really wish Mercopress would remove the pirate flag, it's an insult.
Morning all ... any notable change? No! Great :-)
As I can see that most of the “sensible” Brits have visited this article, I would like to ask them a simple question:
Do you Think that a picture of the Falklands flag at full-mast is an adequate heading for this particular article?
A simple Yes or No will suffice.
The FI are sending condolences, they are not in mourning!
Yes.
“See? Right back to the truth”
In your deluded mind, yeah. Not in the real world. I've searched and i can't even find another source for this story on the net. If this is them trying to broadcast themselves to the world they clearly aren't trying very hard to get the message out there.
People can still be sympathetic if there government is not a internationally recognized government.
As for the flag being on the picture, well cry more honestly. You lot need to grow up, seriously. Only in a madmans mind can something which is supposed to be of good will be construed as such as you lot of idiots have.
If you honestly believe that this was only the UK using a catastrophe for political gain then you must also confess that every government in the world who ever sends letters of sympathy is also doing it for political gain.
I recommend to grow up, put aside the paranoia and stop whining like babies over something from 30 years ago, is absolutely sick to have the head stuck in 1982. The world keeps spinning and playing as the victims isn't helpful at all, it makes Argentines look like blind immature kids that can't respect others' rights because they got their ego poked.
I personally, would feel very badly if some catastrophe happened in the Falklands and an Argie news agency utilized a picture of an Argie flag waving at full mast to head an article about an Argie condolence letter.
Waving your flag over the misery of your opponents is no other than a cheap morbid jingoistic gesture ………….. ……………………
Speaking about flags…………………….
Nice Conrad Martens lithography of the Argentinean flag waving over Port Louis, Malvinas during Darwin’s visit in March 1833!
Dear old Charles apparently missed this one in his “Observations” :-)))
(Visible zooming in on the second picture)
darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1571&viewtype=image&pageseq=100
Further info, for all of you interested in Malvinas history, in this excellent article published today in Uruguay!
viajes.elpais.com.uy/?p=3677
Because that was what the links I had in hands - which I showed you - said about the subject.
“Personally, i never mentioned Venezuela because i had not found any links about the level of there involvment in the hati earthquake untill i read cirh. Very commendable of them. The press has not given Venezuela enough credit for the role it's done, it is hardly mentioned in any storys.”
I agree. Unless it is not about urban crime, recession, and the sizing of power by Chávez, the press will never discuss Venezuela. The international press purposelly provides a distorted and stereotyped view of that country. In fact, it does so to every South American country.
In reference to link darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1571&viewtype=image&pageseq=100
I see no comments on the Argentine flag
Which sure as hell doesn't look like a British flag ;-)
You say:
“The international press purposelly provides a distorted and stereotyped view of that country. In fact, it does so to every South American country.”
I say:
Not to mention the ”Devils of the Caribeean”: those Cubans and their ~400 ” hippocratic ”spies” in Haiti ;-)
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122919202
(116) Martin Fierro
You say:
”Which sure as hell doesn't look like a British flag ;-)”
I say:
Nope…. It doesn’t…
But it could be the Kosowo flag or………. ;-)
“75 WestisBest,
Your link takes me to a stupid Facebook group…”
Yes I know it does, I intended it to you tool. All I was asking is if that is the person you are refering to?
Don't know what you were trying to accomplish with that exactly
I did see the individual I was referring to... the same one you mentioned. Clear this up for me, will ya? In his profile... who's the guy with the puppet face?
They did the same with cuba. All the US news reports that cuba did not help at all in the crisis when infact it was Cuba and Venezuela who were there first to help.
Then again Chávez didn't really help his case by going on about how it was a US superweapon that caused the earthquake. Made him sound a little nuts.
But yeah, it took me a while of reading before i even found out about Venezuelas help and even when i did find a story the fact that they gave so much money was kind of glanced over and slightly ignored.
“I personally, would feel very badly if some catastrophe happened in the Falklands and an Argie news agency utilized a picture of an Argie flag waving at full mast to head an article about an Argie condolence letter.”
I suppose that's your mindset. Younger nations often put a lot of emphasis of the sentimental value of flags, Older nations not so much.
This was the MercoPress' picture they put for the article think unless you're claiming the the UK government placed the picture here to try and insult the 30 or so Argentinians and Brazilians on this website
I very much doubt that the actual letters had a massive great flag posted with them.
And it wasn't sent to Argentina. Although Brazil does support you i doubt that the government would have been insulted by letters of sympathy nomatter from where they came from.
Personally i can't see the bad in this story.
It's quite simple Martin, I'll spell it out for you:
IS THAT THE DEAN HUNT YOU WERE REFERING TO ?
Do you understand now?
WHO'S PHOTO IS THE ONE WITH THE PUPPET FACE?
Contrary to popular belief, my only sources of information about the Islands are the publicly available material on the Internet and the facts gossips and lies generously contributed, through this channel, by the Islanders themselves.
Nothing on “Penguin News”, haven’t heard anything from the Islanders and certainly; ”nada de nada” on Internet.
But……………………………
I heard at the pub :-) …………………,that certain personal and commercial link do exist between a News-Agency that shall remain unnamed and some radicalized elements from an unidentified archipelago off the Argentinean coast.
By the way……
May I ask you a question?
As a Brazilian, ........what is your personal opinion about the adequacy of the picture heading this article?
It still annoys me though….
Must be my “flag wavers” aversion :-(
@Think: Have you discovered already how Mercopress managed to know about this letter?
Well that's an easy one to answer. FIG always do a press release for this kind of thing and would have sent it straight to Mercopress. Sorry if that isn't very exciting for you; I know how much you all like a conspiracy theory.
By the way, I met a couple of chaps from Mercopress at a party in Stanley once. Does that make me a 'radicalised element'? How marvellous.
I don't get called 'generous' very often either, but if there's anything else I can help you with, you just let me know. We don't have anything to hide.
Poocha (wo)man!
You still get the Penguin!…..
On real paper?......
How beautifully retro :-)
About your “radical belonger” status. It all depends which guys from MercoPress you have met…..
Mr. G. is ok….
Thank you for your generous offer….
Could use a correspondent in Gran Malvina……
For the moment,…. just let me know when you are having that homegrown pork roast feast.
(132) Forgetit87
For some of us that have been here long enough, the link is self evident.
Their own description has always puzzled me:
”MercoPress is an independent news agency………………
Independent of what?
Impartiality? :-)
they cant win with the truth, they cant win with justice so they belittle themselves with goblety rubish to confuse us, and even that dont work
but to be great you have to be British, to be a loser you are, Argentine,
Search me, I don't know and frankly I don't care, I'd never heard of Dean Hunt until you mentioned him, judging by what he writes he ain't no Falkland Islander though, you need to get out in the fresh air a bit more Martin.
”Me thinks “Islander1” is someone called Dean Hunt, the most self-deluded Kelper on the planet... I would recognize his lies and sheer madness anywhere.
Hahaha how wrong you are Martin, seeing as you have some passionate feelings for Dean Zak Hunt, you may wan't to know it's a made up profile with false downloaded profile pictures, made up purposly to troll your dumbwit argie extreemist malvinist groups on FB. I am not an Islander nor military, though those Islanders who recognise my Merco press username will know who I am.
As for Martin, well you might have already realised he is an extreemist malvinist who still believes all the malvinist lies such as Belgrano war crime, sinking of the Invincible etc etc and goes out of his way to convince himself & others that they are true.
As for this topic, well only an Argie could go to such low depths to criticise a letter of sympathy, what a nation of retards!
Didn't the FIG(leaf) send that press release to the Penguin News :-)))
It's right there, eight lines on page 3, close to the bit about the Gypsy Cove toilets. You should look more closely.
Irony of destiny.
Close to the toilets.
Gues they couldn' make it:-)
Have you found the mysterious Dean Hunt yet?
Interesting article in todays Penguin News - listing the series of blatant cases of Argentina breaking the UN General Assembly motion of 1976?
Easy Islander, we are getting there....despacito despacito le rompimos el..
www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=5868&source=3
You started by shooting your mouth off and telling me I was wrong, now you're telling me you don't know… classic British behavior.
You're right though… 'Dean Hunt' is probably not his real name… everything he does is fake, fake names (several) fake info, fake life… but he's disturbed enough and stupid enough for anyone to recognize him, on any group, any forum. I wouldn't be surprised if he had several nick names here on Mercopress.
One thing he does when he gets mad like the infant that he is, is ask for proof repeatedly… (like Islander1 is doing right now) usually incredibly stupid questions.
The only country still granting the UK (or “FIG”) access to port, is Chile. So the answer to your question is: EVERY PORT. Ask yourself… When was the last time your fake “FIG” was allowed to dock in South America? Other than in Chile.
Instead of asking… 'how many ports of entry are there in South America? I bet you don't know” like a complete retard.
It may have escaped your notice, but FIG doesn't actually have its own navy. It doesn't have any ships of its own at all.
I wouldn't be rude enough to call you a retard.
How about companies based in Malvinas, do they have any ships? What flag do they fly?
Ships stationed in Malvinas flying the flag of the 'Royal Navy'. Any of those allowed in South America? When was the last time?
I'm not telling you any more. What you don't know can't hurt us.
It's not unknown. From europe alone i know Switzerland and Hungary both once had navy's but nolonger have one.
As for the last time that a Roal Navy vessel landed in South America I think that you'll find it was Chile at the exhibition they had. Couple of months ago?
[shame ] and just when we were becoming friends ??
Specially with no water around them.
That makes a difference? most nations without a coastline have a navy. The Bolivian for example.
Most are small places...Like the falklands.
I am sure that you meant Malvinas Argentinas.
Simple questions, convoluted answers, the usual crap from the Brits.
Ok, I'll try to make sense of what you said.
The 'well established FIG” has no ships, if it does, it wouldn't dare show its pirate flag. Same for any ship from companies based in Malvinas.
I'd be ashamed to show your flag too, it's understandable.
The 'Royal Navy' (rather ludicrous title) is only allowed to dock in Chile.
End of story.
156 WestisBest,
I said I would recognize his nonsense anywhere, I know who he is. He is “Dean Hunt” on Facebook, he is “Dean Street” on Flickr, he is “Islander1”… here, and god knows what else. And you, are an idiot.
Martin!! It were good asnwers. well done, man!!!
No sign of shipping relating to the oil industry being stopped either!
Google it.
Ahhhh....so whatever you say is the truth just because it's you saying it, how very Argentine.
”You're right though… 'Dean Hunt' is probably not his real name… everything he does is fake, fake names (several) fake info, fake life… but he's disturbed enough and stupid enough for anyone to recognize him, on any group, any forum. I wouldn't be surprised if he had several nick names here on Mercopress.“
Your obsession with me is not natural dude, though it makes me smile to think I must have rattled your cage on FB at some time.
I have no Flickr account so your way off the ball.
I am not Islander1 on Mercopress, so again way off the ball
”One thing he does when he gets mad like the infant that he is, is ask for proof repeatedly”
I don't get mad on FB, though I do find most Argie comments highly amusing hence why I set up this group...
www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=113220842065904
As for repeatedly asking for proof, well that's because you Argies have none & think you can post crap and dislike prooving it's source.
says Martin_Fierro ?????????????
why ludicrous title,, it just so happens to be the best recognisable navy in the world, probably more battle honours than any other navy, probably the oldest and finest in the world.
now what about the Argentinean navy ???????????????????
now you know the difference,
So you are telling us that no British merchant vessels are allowed to dock anywhere in S America outside Chile!!! - wake up man - I think you will find that several do even in Argentine ports!
You have not been on here long and it shows in the tripe you come up with
As for the Navy - do you say the same about the Royal- Australian- New Zealand- Canadian - etc etc Navies?
Facebook - never been on it and no interest in it! Same for Twitter .
It's no secret that the UK and Argentina did the same, we bombed the hell out of you in Malvinas, with your bombs.
Google it
Arms supply is by no means a pledge of allegiance, it's just business.
168 briton,
Too much sugar in your Earl Gray
169 Islander1,
Surprise me ;-)
You added two and two together and got four hundred and sixty seven.
Congratulations, you missed the point entirely.
I have absolutely no idea what you just said, English would be preferable.
Jan 20th, 2011 - 03:40 am
“Nice pirate flag”
Nicer than that faded and washed out dishcloth you RG Diegos use.... mind you I am rather taken by the smiley face sun in the guts of it... done by a pre schooler was it?
Selling weapons to Brazil does not make them your ally, no commitments, no guarantees. Argentina signed a weapons contract with South Africa, so what? They'll do whatever is best for them regardless of any deal they make with us.
It was Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva that signed the weapons contract with Brazil, while at the same time questioning: “What is the geographical, political and economic explanation for England to be in the Malvinas?”
en.mercopress.com/2010/02/24/brazil-s-lula-da-silva-blasts-us-security-council-and-britain
As for Dilma Rousseff? She went a step further by denying the HMS Clyde entry to port, no other choice for the UK but to play it down and admit embarrassment. I don't think the UK will be trying that again anytime soon.
I wonder if those deals made with the UK were indeed finalized, if not she may choose to cancel them like she did with the French and their Dassault Rafale. (worth looking into)
Business is business, nothing more. Brazil's relations with the UK will NEVER take precedence over those with Argentina, no matter what the issue is.
174 Frank,
Do you work for the railways in the UK? Wembley perhaps?
Still missing the point....
The Royal Navy WILL go back to Brazil, the regime there will do whatever is good for Brazil, and if that means stuffing Argentina then they'll do that too. After all, Brazil is aiming to dominate the south cone ... and you're worried about us :-))
HMS Gloucester Uruguay answer: same above
What do you like to say all the time?.....Get used to it :-))))
or is there nothing good about it,
lets see how much you argies bloggers know about your own countries great achievements, [AND NO WIKAPEDIA PLEASE] , OR FIDO DIDO, needles or pricks, just argie greats
If nobody objects, I'll start by proposing the classical composer Alberto Ginastera. Personally I'm a fan of his piano compositions.
I really like his Danzas Argentinas:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PsLjSfMoE&feature=related
especially Dance for a beautiful maiden (worth a second listen):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9UmpGRh8R0&feature=related
Also like the racy stuff:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IB88iPb0UM&playnext=1&list=PLF5FD6ADDBFD7F723&index=28
this is a proper workout. Nice to remember a friend too.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuDpIYIcrgw&feature=related
MoreCrap - politicians have a versatile approach to the world. One refusal does not a victory make .... nor even 2.
Enlighten me and cut to it
178 Redhoyt,
“Brazil is aiming to dominate the south cone” How?
I guarantee you if your royal CRAP goes back to Brazil, they won't come from Malvinas.
180 briton,
“Rather than wasting your time running down the British”
You're running down just fine on your own... we give you facts and you want to change the subjects.
LOL:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm0GbkMOgBk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30ShJY1YIg
Prog rock & originalare both in your face!
Diego is undoubtedly a footballing god:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8f8hsBkG4&NR=1
I am certain in their hearts the football loving English forgave Maradona at least just a little bit for the above genius, even if against their team in the World Cup...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbbsytHDp2o&NR=1
Great quote too:
“The goal was scored a little bit by the hand of God, a little by the head of Maradona”
Some people call it cheating... well, a forward has to go for it and I've seen others get away with the odd handball... better to not use hands in football (unless you're a goalie in the area) and to play fair at all times, but the man is a footballing god. We're not worthy. ;-D
Brazil has 'aspirations' .... wake up and smell the roses.
But Brazil is widening her horizons and looking out over the bigger world. Argentina will struggle to maintain her position.
But then ... I may be insane :-)
Redhoyt,
I asked HOW. How exactly is Brazil trying to dominate Argentina? By doing what?
“wake up and smell the roses” ok... what are you talking about? Give us an example, one move, one bit of news... anything.
Interestingly, Ireland comes in about 5th - www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/24/uk-trade-exports-imports
Think will love me quoting from the Guardian :-)
My point is that neighbours are good trading partners because its cheaper to get the good there, but the bigger customers are rarely your neighbours. I believe Brazil is making the right moves, how it then deals with its local politics is something that we'll have to wait and see.
MoreCrap - ok, an example. Last Mercosur conference a final announcement was agreed by everyone except Brazil (comcerning the Falklands). It was changed!
Get a clue kid... don't try to have the last word if you don't know what you're talking about.
Have a look at Argentina's GDP which comes in 28th in the 2009 world listing - Brazil = 8th. No other south cone country comes close! Now the word 'dominate' in english can mean more than high heels and whips !
Brazil is the 'big boy' of South America and with its trade powers it will increasingly call the shots for the region. When the US President wants to talk to South America he'll call Brazil first! So will Putin ... or that chinese fella , WhoFlungDung ( or whatever).
And now, as I said above, Brazil's starting to look further afield - www.defencetalk.com/china-navy-needs-carrier-killer-missile-28586/
All perfectly natural.
The Argies will be suggesting your condolences are politicaly motivated.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/10146223
Silly old bu**er
You can keep babbling about Brazil looking at the outside world; it will achieve nothing and it is likely not trying to. As I said before, the world economy is depressed and countries are becoming more protectionistic. Brazil will have to stick to traditional partners - specially the ones with the stronger GDP growth figures, because they're the ones who can keep importing Brazilian goods. And as you know, Argentina's growth figures are enviable. Some time ago Argentina was Brazil's number 3 trade partner. She's now number 2. Throughout 2010 there were many news pieces - and you can check them in Mercopress itself - about the growing Brazil-Argentina trade, which was achieving new highs. This points that Argentina is not, as you wish she were, becoming less relevant for Brazil. She's becoming more important.
And finally, that Brazil's larger than Argentina doesn't mean it is a threat to Argentina or to any of its neighbors. The US economy is many times greater than Canada's or Mexico's. But I doubt you consider the US a threat to those countries. No, instead you seem to believe that countries who fear US interventionism in the future, are driven by paranoia.
No comment on the link then?
No mention of Brazil's wanting closer trade ties with the EU?
And I didn't say Brazil was a threat ! I said it would dominate ... different thing entirely.
Paranoia :-)
officially the Argentine Republic
Argentina was the only Latin American country to participate in the 1991 Gulf War
It was also the only Latin American country involved in every phase of Operation Uphold Democracy in Haiti.[citation needed] Argentina has contributed worldwide to peacekeeping operations, including those in El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, the Ecuador-Peru dispute, Western Sahara,
U.S. President Bill Clinton designated Argentina as a major non-NATO ally
Argentina was also a founding member of the united nations,
www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ar.html
Now look how far you have fallen in the world, you will have to do better than this, tut tut ?
I did read your so called ”BBC” link …..........
First thing I noticed was the pre election date…..
Then I detected the many positive mentions of conservative ex president Cardoso.
I became quite aware of a very familiar “South-American Conservative Media Conglomerate” writing style.
I began asking myself…………….
Has the BBC really lowered their analytical standards so much or am I being paranoid as that “Hoyt” Lad keeps repeating?
Then………, I reached the last line of the article…………..
Translated from the Portuguese…. by Liz Throssell,
Chuckle Chuckle
I love this part:
”The most important has been the political and economic stability over the past 16 years, first under President Fernando Henrique Cardoso (1994 - 2002).“
During Cardoso's two terms, Brazil's unemployment levels went up to levels not seen since the 60s; GDP growth per capita stagnated; and Brazil had two balance of payments crises: one in 99 and another 3 years later. Apparently that's how the international press define ”economic stability.” As long as foreign speculators are profitting from high interest rates, the economy is considered stable, no matter how much the country's population is suffering.
So much for European Public Service Information....:-)
Typical of members of the south cone, bur remember what incestuous behaviour breeds ..... we'll see :-)
Hate all you want, bunch of retards.
It's not like you're going to change anything dipshit!!
Joint UK Government And BAE Systems Offer Set To Boost Trade With Brazil
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: On the back of a Defence Cooperation Agreement, announced today by the UK and Brazilian Governments, BAE Systems has confirmed its commitment to Brazil and its naval re-equipment programme in a move that paves the way for new industrial partnerships with Brazil.
www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2010/autoGen_110814162825.html
we must be doing something right, ??
Apparently the Jews believe the floods in those two countries were provoked by god's wrath over their rejection of Israeli policies toward Palestine:
ruchoshelmashiach.blogspot.com/2011/01/brazil-australia-hit-by-deadly-floods.html
These include a plan to review a proposal to buy 11 warships worth $6bn (...)
If the warship purchase is delayed or abandoned, it will be a blow to the UK. Britain’s BAE Systems, Europe’s largest defence contractor, was keen to win the tender.”
blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/01/25/dilma-takes-aim-at-defence-spending/
”A former Marxist guerrilla who was tortured by Brazil’s former military regime, it is ironic that Ms Rousseff now has power over the armed forces’ ability to purchase new toys.”
blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/01/25/dilma-takes-aim-at-defence-spending/
I would really hope Dilma reconsiders the whole ”traditional defense” purchase strategy.
It is just too much against any imaginable regional enemy but too little against the big strategic players.
A good idea, in my opinion, would be for Brazil to establish a whole new age of “State of the Art” missile and robotic technologies in cooperation with Venezuela and Argentina.
Argentina has the Technicians.
Venezuela got the Money.
Brazil;… the Garotas :-)
No pun intended ?
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