Argentina reaffirms Malvinas sovereignty rights; invites UK to “good faith” negotiations
Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman addressing the United Nations Decolonisation Committee reiterated Argentina’s “unrenounceable and imprescriptible” sovereignty rights over the Malvinas Islands and extended a “formal invitation” to the British government “to sit to a table and resume, in good faith, negotiations” to solve the long standing dispute.
Timerman made his Tuesday presentation before the C24 together with a committee of lawmakers from the ruling coalition and the opposition and invited the UK “to sit with us to a table and resume in good faith negotiations to solve the sovereignty dispute so as to put an end, at this time of the XXI century, the incompressible and unacceptable colonial situation”.
“The UK remains dauntless to the calls from the international community”, said Timerman pointing out that this attitude “is even more worrying if we take account of the fact it comes from a member of the UN Security Council, whose main purpose is the preservation of international peace and security”.
“We Argentines insist in calling for peaceful negotiations because it is history which teaches that the sole expression of the powerful is not enough to justify a territorial occupation born out of an act of force, since be it not so, several of the nations that today are members of this committee would continue to be colonial enclaves”.
Furthermore the Argentine minister denounced before the C24 “the criminal attitude from fanatics who death threatened” the British descendent born in the Malvinas Islands, James Peck, “if he dared return to the Islands”.
Given the facts, “we make British authorities that illegally occupy the Islands responsible for the safety of the Argentine citizen, Señor James Peck, if he wishes to exercise his Argentine rights to return to the occupied Islands”, underlined Timerman.
James Peck, 42, is a successful artist who was married with an Argentine woman with whom he had two children. In an interview this week with The Times, Peck said he had not given up his British citizenship and wanted to live next to his children. Holding a British passport in Argentina exposed him to “hostility and bureaucratic difficulties”.
“I’m not going to leave my children because of the dispute of two governments over the Falklands/Malvinas” Peck told The Times.
See Minister Hector Timerman statement http://en.mercopress.com/data/docs/unc24.pdf
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If not, then i can only see one outcome to this whole committee meeting.
His Ace card, Senor Peck, who has abandoned his Falkland Islands child(ren) from a previous relationship, is somewhat discredited before he played him, and was obviously going to be the entire theme of Timo's efforts at the UN C24.
Funny how the Ace turned out to be a Joker.
The RG camp should be very worried at this point that they are looking like a bunch of demented liars, and if you start to look very much like a demented liar, it not such a leap to believing you're a demented liar.
I bet Timo's seat was wet when he left the room.
Given the facts, “we make British authorities that illegally occupy the Islands responsible for the safety of the Argentine citizen, Señor James Peck, if he wishes to exercise his Argentine rights to return to the occupied Islands”, underlined Timerman.
Jees you couldnt make it up LOL,
Twitterman's head is gonna be on the chopping block when he eventually returns home (If he does).
The first thing to do would be agreeing on disagreeing
Death threat made against Argentine archbishop
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/death_threat_made_against_argentine_archbishop/
Argentina: Journalist receives death threats in Orán, Salta
www.newssafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15209%3Aargentina-journalist-receives-death-threats-in-oran-salta&catid=51%3Aamericas-media-safety&Itemid=100519
So hated, in fact, that Barrientos has reportedly received death threats as a result of an incident in the 31st minute of Racing’s 1-0 win last Sunday that sent the Colombian playmaker tumbling to the ground with a torn ACL in his right knee
They do like to ignore many things.
Anyway, looks like “the freedom of speech” style of some British in Malvinas back fired in their faces and is news around the world now, embarrasing.
“Furthermore the Argentine minister denounced before the C24 “the criminal attitude from fanatics who death threatened” the British descendent born in the Malvinas Islands, James Peck, “if he dared return to the Islands”.
Given the facts, “we make British authorities that illegally occupy the Islands responsible for the safety of the Argentine citizen, Señor James Peck, if he wishes to exercise his Argentine rights to return to the occupied Islands”, underlined Timerman”
James Peck is totally entitled to his opinion, but he needs to accept that Falkland Islanders are not going to agree with it.
In actual fact, this ridiculous story shows what Argentina is prepared to do to try and undermine us, but look at this story - ONE shallow man out of a population of nearly 3,000 has sold out to your country... it only serves to highlight the fact the rest of us don't want anything to do with Argentina - now, or ever.
You would do well to grow up and leave us alone. Even better, why not take a good hard at our freedom of speech and our lifestyle - maybe Argentina could learn something about what it means to be a real democracy.
Then what happens about the Falkland’s people, are they going to be just ignored,
Where are their rights . For the committee to just sit there and allow this travesty of justice , then the Falkland’s should now do what the Gibraltarians did, and walk away and refuse to have anything to do with them,
if this is what they call justice, then the U N committee should be ashamed of itself, but then again, we all know what Argentina is after, and she will cause bloody havoc until she gets what she wants,
But if history is true to the facts, then Argentina will not like what it finally gets, and those who back her, will have to live with the guilt for decades to come . ???????
He is worried about the health of a cabbage thief!
LOL
What has become of the war crimes they commit against us? The people of the Malvinas who supported the British in 1982 must be tried for treason!They do not want us! WE DO NOT WANT THEM! GO HOME NOW!
The death threat ( singular) that wee jamie received probably came from the father of the sheila he had knocked up and abandoned...
#13 -MoreCrap, the official press release isn't out yet although I would expect it to arrive in the next few hours. It provides greater detail but is not a 'blow by blow' account of the proceedings. The full transcript is not released.
#22 - you were the war criminals FlipFlop, not us.
#26 - they'll also have used Vernett's great-great-great grand-daughter who turns up to say that Vernett was an Argentine, although all the facts state otherwise.
The real Argentine hero of the Malvinas was Don Juan Esteban Mestivier but he was murdered by his own men, also traitors to Argentina! We need to rid ourselves of all such traitors and then we can take the Malvinas back.
NO MORE COLONIALS IN LATIN AMERICA, THIS IS OUR LAND, GO HOME.
en.mercopress.com/2011/06/21/falklands-calls-on-c24-to-open-its-mind-and-support-islanders-desire-to-determine-their-future
So I'll go and have a read!
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gacol3225.doc.htm
Did you not know they actually have about 650 elected members of Parlimaent of their own that represent UK!
But even you cannot dispute that he spoke plain reality and FACTS- not Timmerman fanstasy
Another draft Resolution to go before the Fourth Committee in October ...... and so the farce goes on!
Mr Dick represents Sheffield, England and his own pocket (fishing company Seaview Ltd) nothing else.
Top marks for geography at least - yes Sheffield is indeed in England - they have quite a few members of Parliament- the Westminster London Parliament- not totally sure but I think one of them is actually the deputy priminister Neck Clegg(can anyone here correct this?)'
Dick Sawle is one of 5 elected members(IN FACT HE TOPPED THE VOTES BY A BIG MARGIN) of Legislative Assembly for the Falkland Islands Assembly - a few miles away from both Sheffield and London if you look at a map!
So- as usual- Marcos all confused.
NO MORE COLONIALS IN LATIN AMERICA, THIS IS OUR LAND, GO HOME.
Up the Mapuche, Kolla, Toba , Wichí people - the few left after the Spanish tried to exterminate them. Send the remaining implanted Spanish back home.
“Lies”
I agree. What Héctor Timerman, María Vernet, and Alejandro Betts say is full of lies.
Remember Shadow,the master lesson he gave in international law?
Of course the reality is that it is Argentina's fraudulent version of historical events, and their spurious version of what the UN has actually said, that has been rebutted. Not that it takes an expert .... Argentina's lies are so easy to prove wrong even we can do it :-)
As for 'international law' ...... well, take it to the ICJ if you really believe that it is on your side!
Dab is quite correct, but the people he mentioned are not alone. Other South American countries that spoke quite intentionally misinterpretted what the UN has said.
I always find it quite funny that AFTER a vote has taken place, Argentina stands up and attempts to lecture everyone else on what they actually voted for .... reinterpretting and changing what was voted upon. Although of course, that's just 'smoke and mirrors'. Once the vote has been taken then the subject matter stands as it was before the vote. Not after.
So behave :-)
Swarle and he is an englishman born and raise in Sheffield not Malvinas so he should represent that city not a colony of Brits 14000km away in Argentina-South America.
As far as I know Seaview Limited have Spanish partners not Argentinean.
María Eugenia Estenssoro is a Bolivian-born Argentine politician, journalist and activist for women's rights. She represents the city of Buenos Aires in the Argentine Senate.
Dear Mr. Dab..........
You claim to be a British living in Perú.
Still, you where 100% wrong in your analysis about the Peruvian election.
If you can’t even grasp the realities of the South-American country you are living in, what makes you such an “expert” in Argentinean matters?
Ps:
You never reverted about the donation, to your favorite charity, of the 100 Soles from our bet about the result of the Peruvian election.
Anyway isn't his country composed of the fanatics who deny that the islanders are entitled to self-determination and that they don't exist?
41 Redhoyt--- I am behaving, quite badly as it happens woof woof, I cant help it if they take the bait and show themselves to be complete and utter ninnies.
45 NicoDim you are a dim twat, I thought you had been to the UK, or did you do what most visitors do when they come our shores and stay just in London, If you did you must learn to get out more often. Why travel all those miles and not explore our great country. Its quite a nice place. Hey and you could see all those poverty stricken places that you say we have, you wont spot many of them because even our poor are richer than your middle class people, as I showed you.
Ho, ho, ho
I demand that the Argentine Government do something about the criminal fanatics who've been sending me death threats for years.
Although I have not been in Argentina,I know Brazil well, and became friends with many Argentinians living there, before,during and after the 1982 conflict.All were patriotic,but most believed that even if a legal claim to the islands had existed in 1833, it now seemed ridiculous to pursue it in face of the islanders`own clearly expressed wishes.
Those who expressed these views had the advantage of perspective gained mostly from some years living outside the reach of political propaganda.Even a poorly educated Argentinian must by now realise that the Falklands only becomes a major issues when votes are sought or attention needs to be distracted from more pressing issues.
The Argentine government should concentrate on concilliatory measure and helpful proposals designed to win the confidence of the islanders in the years ahead.If they conducted themselves in a civilized and reasonable manner,they might well convince a mjority to vote for joining them...eventually.
Argentine`s present self-defeating course simply pushes such an outcome even further into the future.
There are many areas in which both could benefit from cooperation.But Argentina must demonstrate respect before it can win trust.
Now flipper, maths may not be my strongest suit but doesn't the Argentine Navy have 42 ships (including patrol boats, supply ships, tugs and other auxiliaries, a tall ship and an icebreaker that has been being fixed for more than a year) whereas the RN runs 80 ships, 22 of which are patrol boats (all of which are combat capable) the RFA runs another 19 (which could defend themselves, but are not offensively equipped) and the RMAS runs another 70 (support boats).
How, in your mind, do you get 80+19+70>42 ?
Yeah yeah...and cloud cuckoo land, Narnia and middle Earth next no doubt...
Silly little boy, isn't it time for your bottle and nap?
42 Marcos Alejandro -----“We know we are winning the augments”
Good for you that you are winning the “augments” but I am glad that Argentina is winning the argument!!
Great country? Last time I read one of your comments you were planning to move to Scotland to join the SNP.
49 I know who James Peck is but...who are you??
Just ignore him and he'll get bored.
You don’t know or you have not idea about Argentina, mate.
First I never say that you don’t have nice landscapes or places but I’m from Argentina where landscapes and nice places are everywhere
I was also in Wales, also passed for Birmingham I ended up in Conway to see some castles down to the cost, also in Dover, Surrey, Essex, and in some places in the countryside in the middle of nowhere that I don’t even remember the names.
But as you can imagine I didn’t go to Europe to look for countryside, landscapes etc.
In fact if I want to see places like this I have a little castle countryside style within Buenos Aires just from 1hour and 30 minutes from the city and many others like this.
www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1220533
www.mystravels.com.ar/estancias/candelaria.htm
www.comarcas.com.ar/ESTANCIAS/Estancias_de_BUENOS_AIRES/Estancia_LaCandelaria_Lobos.html
www.lobos.gov.ar/Nota.asp?IdNota=32
Sorry nothing personal just a cultural shock as FI representatives when have arrived to Washington but in reverse for someone coming from a large city like Buenos Aires. What can I do?
Do you know how funny sounds for us knowing Europe that someone from these latitudes call as Third world country. We just look like a super power compared with you guys. ha ha
Built for an empire that never was, Buenos Aires.
www.travelpod.co.uk/travel-blog-entries/btran/1/1260902632/tpod.html
I don’t totally agree with that as we still hold the 8th bigger mass of land in the world and still expanding to the Atlantic Ocean and may be later to the north. Who knows? The world is changing faster than ever and in the next years you can become part of our empire.
ArgiKistan may be will name you and guess why?
“Buenos Aires was built to rule an empire anchored in the commodity trade”
Not the same kind of empire as you're thinking nico. But thanks for the good laugh!
And most of you, all huddle around BA, lack of ambition?
The problem with you is that you have to wet your feet to grab a square meter of land.
Is our fault that you live in a little island and everything for you is overseas?
Is our fault that you have lost your old empire and you are now invade and cannot take control even of your little island?
Tell me what was left or your empire?
Nothing and even getting smaller perhaps?
Nothing. It ended decades ago.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_law
The United Kingdom exported the English legal system to the Commonwealth countries during the British Empire, and many aspects of that system have persisted after the British withdrew or granted independence to former dominions. English law prior to the Wars of Independence is still an influence on United States law, and provides the basis for many American legal traditions and policies. Many states that were formerly subject to English law (such as Australia) continue to recognize a link to English law - subject, of course, to statutory modification and judicial revision to match the law to local conditions - and decisions from the English law reports continue to be cited from time to time as persuasive authority in present day judicial opinions. For a few states, the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council remains the ultimate court of appeal. Many jurisdictions which were formerly subject to English law (such as Hong Kong) continue to recognise the common law of England as their own - subject, of course, to statutory modification and judicial revision - and decisions from the English Reports continue to be cited from time to time as persuasive authority in present day judicial opinions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations
The Commonwealth of Nations, normally referred to as the Commonwealth and formerly known as the British Commonwealth, is an intergovernmental organisation of fifty-four independent member states. All but two (Mozambique and Rwanda) of these countries were formerly part of the British Empire, out of which it developed.
Like the oil exploration agreement?
Or the fisheries management agreement?
Or how about the 1994 undertaking to review the toponymy relating to the invasion?
Good faith indeed...
Your education seems to have dropped conversably,
We deal in facts, not crappie proper gander,
and the fact is [Mr 8th largest country ] you were effectively and divisively beaten by a little tiny island race, 8, miles away, outnumbered and out gunned, we whipped the floor with you,
Now when you learn to grow up, and respect the truth, you might learn something, you could start by [listening] ?
@56. I totally agree. Don't feed the troll.
And why I should listen to a bunch of low class nationalistic Englishmen from the countryside in extinction struggling to live in their own land and being invaded by the third world?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9X7pXdM1UE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuI8z2yHinw
So Britishgani I would be focusing in my own problems at home than to pretend to grab other people land if I would be you before is too late.
www.cocorioko.net/?p=12459
I believe Argentina itself once considered, perhaps even applied, to join the Commonwealth in the 1920s.Presumably then, after many years of successful trading with the UK, the Falklands were not such a burning issue.
#66
I really am relieved to find that in fact you still can`t fool all of the people all of the time. If gives grounds for a little hope that some sensible modus vivendi might finally be found.
Funnily enough they never raised the issue of the Falklands at the League, not once.
Oh so now its not Britain that is a third world country like you have been saying, it turns out all along what you realy meant to say is that we are being invaded by third world countrys. You are confusing sometimes Nic
69 NicoDin----
So Britishgani I would be focusing in my own problems at home than to pretend to grab other people land if I would be you before is too late.
Like I have just said you are confusing sometimes. Its your country that is trying to grab some other persons land Nicodim. The Falklands islands have never been Argentina's, in fact as you well know the Falklands were populated long before Argentina was just a twinkle in someones brain.
So you can insult the UK all you want the sun will still set every night,the sun will still rise every day and the Falklands will still belong to the people that live on those islands that want to be protected by the UK from Argentine land grabbers, or in other words Nicodim thieves and pirates from Argentina. Woof Woof.
And you guys are just envious of us,
You continually run us down, but secretly admire us,
The charm the sophistication and charisma just rolls of the sleeve.
You guys have trouble rolling out of bed.
You know perfectly that UK is a third world country why insisting in comparing with Argentina?
Why Britain is now a Third World country
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/clarkson/article1655505.ece
“A senior Papal adviser has pulled out of the Pope's UK visit after saying arriving at Heathrow airport was like landing in a “Third World” country.”
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11317441
“Britain often does seem like a Third World country”
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
Bankrupt Britain - The Next Third World Country
ezinearticles.com/?Bankrupt-Britain---The-Next-Third-World-Country&id=5752750
We are becoming, in political terms, a genuine Third World country... 2007
www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/008155.html
@Briton
The best on what?
Drugs trafficking, crime, knife killing or lying?
You really do love the internet don't you?! Thing with the internet though is that you can put almost anything into a search engine and be guaranteed to have some pages returned. Thing is you the vast majority of them have been posted by people like you with little to no idea of what they are talking about.
For example I've just put “Argentina a third world country” into a search engine and it returned 1330 hits. If I don't restrict it to the exact phrase it returns 17,800,000 hits.
Does this prove that Argentina is a third world country? No of course it doesn't, any more than the rubbish you post proves any of the rubbish you spout.
Ultimatly his logic comes crashing down around his arse when we ask him why his first world country and first rate military hasn't built up the courage to gloriously retake the Malvinas from a third world country from soldiers who are apparently all gay and take heroin....
Obviously Nicodumes renewed obsession with Muhhamed is affecting his brain again....
Without him we'd be left with uninformed idiots like Searinox & Malen. Or that complete head plonker, Martin_Fierro.
Ah! RC cyber warrior eh!
No need to believe Rhaurie you can just confirm that by taking a little walk around your neighbourhood.
Not convinced yet?
Ytube to the rescue
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
Why don’t you move to Jamaica?
They have wonderful beaches, good music, cricket, they seem to be on vacation every day, they look like happy people and the best at all them speak English and may be better than you and is not Camerun with cutting plans. You will feel at home. ha ha.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PffS3JDpiYU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pggfLOuRZAw
I will not recommend Buenos Aires because I’m afraid you will suffer a cultural shock we have lifts every where, tall buildings, wide roads, a lot of theatres, free education, democracy and all that things that sound strange to you.
@ lsolde
Ah Isolde the only sexy and pretty girl in town
: )
remind me again...aren't you the lunatic who thinks that the Falklands are going to be imminently invaded by 50,000 Argentine soldiers, despite having no capability to get there?
aren't you the lunatic who posts repeated Youtube videos which show absolutely nothing...
aren't you the lunatic who masqueraded on Youtube as Nicodume and trolled every single Falklands war video with your arm chair general commentary on how you didn't lose the war....Oh and then promptly deleted his youtube account after I rumbled you :)
As I said Nicodume you need to beleive thats why you look for all these videos an inherent nationalistic need to beleive your own bias against the UK....we are great and you know it, we will always have the Falklands, as the athenians said to the Macedons- “Your hatred of us is recognition of our power”, your dislike of the UK Nicodume, is recognition of our power, and Argentina's powerlessness to do nothing except rant :)
Throwing your own people out of planes is pretty strange Nicotine,you got us on that one
“you need to beleive thats why you look for all these videos an inherent nationalistic need to beleive your own bias against the UK....we are great and you know it”
Are you on drugs or what Rhaurie?
Yes you are Great, a Great “Boludo” and seem with spelling and grammar problems too “beleive thats” ha ha
Oh! Rhaurie go to Jamaica and take some sunny days in the beach. The third world is affecting you too much I guess. You need fresh air and some good music.
: )
Thinking on the way,
Leading the dogs of war, smoking puff all day
With Marcos Searinox and mjprando bringing up the rear
Obeying young Christina, , bendover [yes dear .]
Its back to the blog for you guys
You failed to steal their lands
And then they went and kicked us
Out of the Falkland’s .
[have a sense of fun] just a thought ??
“Britain is bad, soldiers gay, you take drugs, bad spelling, third world...jaajjajja”
Such impotency in the face of situations he can't change, its probably why he fantasizes about Argentine forces some how managing to take the Falklands...its how he copes with the reality of Britain's power and influence the world over :)
Don't worry seem we are taking over you now slowly.
www.gauchorestaurants.co.uk/
ha ha
(Obviously, there are numerous mid-priced and cheaper eating establishments too).
A bit steep for ex-servicemen…………..................
I'll stick with the “Under the Hood” café.
A tax paying Argie? should have you stuffed and put on show
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