Timerman Falklands ‘militarization claim’ with little echo at UN admits Argentine press
The Argentine minister Hector Timerman presentation before the United Nations claiming the “militarization of the South Atlantic” from the Falklands by the UK does not seem to be having the expected echo according to press reports from Buenos Aires, based on correspondents’ contributions from New York.
So far the Argentine presentation has not generated ‘a single international condemnation, verbally or through a resolution’ as had been anticipated by Minister Timerman in his reports to the government of President Cristina Fernandez.
On the contrary the reply from the UN building in New York has been a resounding silence, while in Washington the US government denies any militarization in the South Atlantic and the Republican opposition in the midst of a presidential campaign is accusing President Obama of not standing up to its allies. Presidential hopeful and former governor Mitt Romney is demanding that President Obama clearly aligns with Great Britain.
Furthermore “if the Timerman presentation was to organize more pressure on the UK to sit and negotiate, the British government used the Argentine claim as a platform to once again proclaim that the sovereignty of the Falklands is not negotiable and will not be as long as the Islanders so wish to remain British”.
The press offices from UN Secretary General Ban-Ki moon and the General Assembly president Nassir Abdulaziz Al-Nasser sent out official releases following their meetings with Timerman, but none of them makes reference to the increase of UK naval power in the South Atlantic. The president of the Security Council, Kodjo Menam didn’t even bother to make a release on the meeting, according to Argentine press correspondents in New York.
It took the President Obama administration two days following Timerman’s claim to clearly establish that the US “does not have any reason to question” the alleged British ‘militarization’ of the South Atlantic. “The UK has made clear to us and to the Argentines that what they are engaged in, in a naval capacity is normal and is typical for this time of year. So we don’t have any reason to question that”, said Ms Victoria Nuland, Stated Department spokesperson.
This however did not impede presidential hopeful Mitt Romney main advisor Robert O’Brien from claiming that President Obama is ‘not reliable’ to its allies. “He has not been with Israel regarding Iran and he is not being with Great Britain in the issue of the Falklands, and all the fuss the Argentines are making over that”.
Last but not least apparently there was no “mediation” offer, as reported in Buenos Aires, but rather a reiteration of the “good offices” from UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, as established by a UN general assembly resolution. The assembly president said he was “willing to coordinate among both sides if the countries so request it”, with no mention of the word mediation.
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His father in law is British, not wonder. He lost with McCain last time around and now he is heading down the same way I read.
I think in subtle diplomatic circles that means “get F**ked”.
“51 Argentina 6.84 Flawed democracy Federalism, presidential system, bicameralism”
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Ban Ki-Moon comes from South Korea, he's been living next to tin pot dictatorships all his life and knows how to spot one, CFK's wasting her time.
“No “mediation” offer, as reported in Buenos Aires, but rather a reiteration of the “good offices” from UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon”
In other words, they are becomming increasingly fed up with rethoric nonscence.
“The president of the Security Council, Kodjo Menam didn’t even bother to make a release on the meeting”
Bet he walked out of that meeting complaining that he would never get those wasted minutes of his life back.
Argentinas claims are now falling on deaf ears, face facts, admit you are in the wrong, and show some dignity by apologising to the Islanders for your actions in 1982.
Kodjo Menam: “isn't that the meteorological radar from University of Leicester?”
Hector Timerman: “I think my face is made of cake”
Kodjo Menam: *silance*
They should be carnivalling, like the Brasilians. It's great for forgetting your troubles for a while.
Hmm, this Mitt Romney seems an intelligent fellow.
Anyway Rockhopper shares up again.
Another bullet in the foot for a certain supercilious Hispanic (wannabe Aryan) prick.
Titter titter.
Regardless of how 'Atlanticist' the current UK Conservative Party leadership consider themselves, I'm sure Mitt Romney knows that President Obama is in no way going to align with the UK on any issue. Regardless of how much queen hugging his wife does.
It's a great way for Romney to beat up on Obama.
Long Live the Falklands.
So I don't think we should slip into any illusions about the people of the USA supporting us on any issue at all. The only 'special relationships' that USA has is with Israel because AIPAC 'donate' a lot of money to help you win and Ireland because they all think they were born there.
Our relationship with USA is very special, like a special child.
It would seem they have learnt little about the place since then. It's like they are drowning in their own propaganda and no longer able to discern fact from fiction.
He must have a big secret on the Ks, know their Swiss acct #s or something to be able to stay in that position. Sheesh what a clown.
@23 The problem with opening Argfag's swiss bank boxes is that they're typically full of gold fillings, stolen paintings, and piles of shoes and hair.
“US State, Prez HATE him ..”
Brother, you are dilutional , I can't find not even one article on Timmerman anywhere, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS .... wtf !!!
What you can find is that the Prince is in Malvinas and Harry got first place in the Apache Helicopter training, that's about it .
He ruined the relationship with the USA over that idiotic stunt with our military jet. He will never be welcomed again. In fact Arg is about to lose all of its US trade preferences and they are freaking out.
“He ruined the relationship with the USA over that idiotic stunt with our military jet.”
Do tell / post a link, I must have missed that! :o)
Lmao, that made me chuckle.
”Do tell / post a link, I must have missed that! :o)”
A US military plane landed(Planned, with equipment to assist Argentina), Timerman took the plane searched it and refused to release it back to the US military for weeks.
The US military obviously wasn't pleased.
35, If you think they have forgotten you are grossly mistaken. USA has a long memory and do not abide idiots. You now have State and Congress doing just about everything they can do to make CFKs life a little harder everyday. Plus you can't fight the Dart family, eventually they will get what they want and Arg will lose...again...it's a good thing you are used to it.
STUNNING in it's stupidity AND CFK still let him have a job! Just shows how desperate they are.
I'm not agreeing to what it was done, just FYI
@37
Fuck off !!
It's genius, I keep wondering if Timerman is a UK implant with a secret mission to embarrass Argentina on a worldwide scale although that plan is shot down by the fact CFK is an inept and stupid too.
Seriously you really couldn't make it up.
They have been laugh out of the UN ,
199 members, and not one, gave her any backing,
And the only time he was given any directions, was to the toilet,
She will drag her country to shame, over her obsession.
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It's good that none of the journos laughed out loud.
Sr. Timerman was told by his President to make the best case Argentina could propose to the United Nations.
He did his best but he had duff ammunition.
There is no requirement on him to speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This is, after all, The United Nations, not the ICJ or another court of law.
Imagine how you would feel if you were put in this situation, where you had to make the case but could only do it through dissembly and disinformation.
Feel sorry for the man and his embarrassed family.
It's good to lighten things up from time to time. Keeps one from taking themselves and things too seriously.
And the Argentinians could use a laugh. But being able to laugh at oneself is something that never really caught on here. Like the idea of individual responsibility, accountability and open-mindedness.
Funny how they don't respect life but take themselves so seriously.
Another one of their many stubborn, hard-headed, witless, and unsuccessful attempts to invert the natural order of things.
Even the travel writer Paul Theroux said they were “deficient in humor, though big on talk.” (Spot on!).
In any event, it's a shame they can't laugh at themselves, since they have no idea just how funny they are.
I'm an American myself, so let me shed some light on this issue with the US administration. Obama HATES the UK for personal, petty reasons. He also HATES the USA and people are beginning to wake up to that fact. Historically, the Republicans have had much better relations with our allies than the Democrats. They recognize allies not for their strength or economic prosperity, but for their loyalty to Western ideals and their commitment to freedom in the face of terror and tyranny. The UK is our most trusted ally. Most polls conducted among Americans show they are consistently willing to fight on the behalf of two countries. Canada and Great Britain. Other countries are not as supported. Rick Santorum (Current anti-Romney challenger) has also stated complete support for the UK's claim (though I don't think he can win). Newt Gingrich has completely deflated and Ron Paul will never get the nomination (which is lucky for the UK, as he favors treating them on an equal footing with Iran!.. not kidding, he said this).
We don't get news about the Falklands dispute here on our pitiful excuse for news, but I can assure you, most Americans agree with the right to self-determination and once we have this weasel out of our house, our administration will too. Argentina needs to accept the fact that the islands do not belong to them and never will.
(P.S. - Just to let you know. Mitt Romney is a little stiff, but he's a good guy. I've met him on the campaign-trail and I admire his vocal support for America's allies. He also recognizes the national security threat posed by South America in collusion with Iran. He definitely can't be worse than Osama and his annoying wife)
Be patient, Britain... the USA has stepped out for a while, but we'll be back with you shortly ;)
A generation of British were turned aside by first watching Blair dry-hump america's leg in the worst fashion and then by years of pure-deep-hate from Obama. It just showed that it's better to stick to you principles as a country, and if America agrees, that's fine; if it doesn't that's also fine.
But don't kid yourself, USA has two special relationships, Ireland and Israel. UK's importance to the USA is somewhere down the list near Western Sahara. We should just get over it and focus on making new novel things to sell.
The fact that BAE is allowed to work on the US' top secret projects is a massive one, there is no other foreign company allowed to do so. They were only allowed because they were British, even then it was not easy getting there.
Different administration may not like each other and have there differences, but that connection between our intelligence, science and military sections of our nations is always there working in the background.
Some administrations might just not like us(obama) but as Stefan pointed out, the population is also on our side.
Where is the evidence that Obama doesn't like the UK? I don't see it. Just a question
Just been reading a book about the Korean war “Scorched Earth and Black Snow” The focus is on UK forces in 1950, the section about Chosin looks at RM commandos fighting alongside their USMC counterparts.
The brits all spoke very highly of the yanks - especially how well they were looked after in terms of food by some very brave and dedicated USMC cooks.
I am glad our 2 countries have good relations, and I never met a American I did'nt like.
Although it is not really my place to comment on your politics at home, I agree with you about Obama - he has made some major foreign policy blunders in terms of alienating allies and appeasing foes.
Don't take this the wrong way but “when I was a lad” I really respected Reagan - he was a president that the likes of Iran or North Korea would'nt have messed with, he stuck by the friends of the USA.
An argentine politician, died yesterday, when he hung himself with a rubber band,
He died of multiple head fractures .
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It began with his constant use of British Petroleum instead of BP, which it has been for decades now.
Then there is his administrations position on the Falklands issue, no mention of self determination.
Surely this wouldn't be a repeat of the Antigua & Barbuda and Dominica fiascos! Only bigger and better.
#51 - Obama has shown very CLEARLY that he hates the British. This is because of the imprisonment of his grandfather in Kenya with the Mau Mau uprising (which wasn't the just movement it is often painted as). I could give you a long list of insults, but I'd exceed the word count. You can find this information online. Just search “top 10 insults by Obama to Great Britain”.
# 52 - Feel free to comment on our politics. We'd like to see MORE backlash against our inept president from overseas. It will make deposing him a lot easier. You're right about Reagan. One of our best presidents. Not perfect, but he was a commander in chief. Obama is a bystander in chief. I'm surprised you haven't met an American you didn't like. There are A LOT of retards here, as there are all over the world. (with a high concentration in Argentina for some strange reason ;)
As long as we have the right leaders, willing to stand by those with whom we share history, heritage and culture, I feel all the violence that is sparking right now will only bring the West closer together, in the face of those who hate us. If Argentina wish to fall in line with Iran and Venezuela because of jealousy and misplaced pride, let them. It's no great loss. The islanders have the right to remain part of Western civilization. In my opinion, it is our duty to our conscience to defend that right.
The part of BAE Inc. that does US work has significant separation from the rest of BAE Plc.
If you told the average British person that the UK was amongst the top allies of the USA, I think they would be very polite but laugh at you. It might have been close, when Maggie and Raegan were chummy. But, it's clearly not true now; it's not attention seeking and ever pretty much everyone here knows it.
I respect that other people may have other experiences, however.
From what I understand, you'll find a far more vocal “anti-EU” sentiment in Britain than an “anti-US” sentiment, but then, I'm just going by what I read online from British posters.
And both these countries share a lot more into and intelligence than some people realise
Obama is an insult to the British, but the average American is ok.
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I've not done a straw poll so cannot say what UK sentiment is towards the USA, I've noticed amongst those I know is it's seen as a massively one-way relationship combined with the 'you put oil on our beaches' style nonsense. I guess that's one for the politicians to figure out, as it affects me not.
western civilization.
I think we have gone soft since the end of the cold war, the UK military was emasculated by new labour (to help pay for a spending spree on crap like the olympics, increased handouts to the work shy and the EU) then finished off by the moronic conservatives (cut, cut,cut then deny there is a problem, meanwhile pay billions to bail out the banks, basket case nations of the EU, and ramping up foreign aid).
The mood over here is increasingly anti EU. I think that we should declare independence from it ASAP, can we borrow the “don't tread on me” flag for a bit? Many of the nations in it are fair weather friends with no real will to defend themselves or field viable militaries, they rely on you to do it for them. We are (sadly) going that way to and it sickens me. If we faced a resurgent Russia (busily rearming itself) we would be in real trouble.
The world is a dangerous place and I think we need to take a good hard look at who are friends are, and also recognise that there are those (like Argentina) who wish to do us harm.
Its a disgrace that our weak livered government has done to our military,
Again its not the people, just a corrupt government, he promised a referendum, soon the brits will throw him out, he and others cannot prevent us from pulling out forever,
They keep sending our finest, with less and less,
And in my opinion that is probably the only reason Argentina has got some little balls to start all this up again, besides the oil,
We would love the US government to stand up and speak up for us,, but this will not happen, by refusing to support the UK he gives more credence to Argentina,
But we always back them up, [do we not]
But Argentina knows full well that the British can and will stand alone if we have to.
The islands will remain British, as long as they wish it, and Argentina should concentrate on her own country, instead of trying to steal others.
The issue is with the political part of the EU that comes up with ridiculous rulings, the Schengen Agreement, and also the Euro currency which clearly didn't have any entrance criteria. But we're not in two of those, so it's better that we stay in. I'm not exactly a europhile, but I know we're in a better economic position because of it.
they wish a united states of europe, this i want no part.
Obviously I can't speak for the UK in any accurate capacity, but I just want it to be known, that here in the US, there is a positive sentiment towards the British among those interested in politics and the world. This is particularly evident among service members who I have heard praise the British armed forces. There is a very negative sentiment to the way Obama has treated them, as well as Poland and the Czech Republic. Don't give up all faith because of a bad president. The competition he's facing seems very hawkish on standing with allies and being uncompromising with our enemies, unlike Obama who is a modern day Chamberlain.
Some say I'm paranoid, but I feel a strong sense that our enemies are gathering themselves again, trying to capitalize on our economic dysfunction. It could get rough in the next few years with maniacs like Putin and Chavez lurking around.
If you don't agree, please watch this video released by candidate Mitt Romney on what kind of world we may be facing in 2015. It's a real eye-opener.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnn4RRHFIQ
If we don’t grow, then we will shrink and be forgotten,
[][ have you, or did you see the euro maps of the modern future Europe they printed a few years ago, Britain was a northern region of mainland France, and the name of the English channel had changed,
And I will just end with this,,,,,
There is nothing, but nothing, that the Europeans can give us, that our own government cant,,, and if our own government cant or wont, then something is very badly wrong .
I would also ditch the ECHR, an organistion that has forgotten the balance between justice and rights.
We could then cut out all the stupid over-regulation and the EUs creeping thef of our democracy.
If it was just a free trade oragnisation with a pledgr to help each other out and ties to NATO I would support it.
@ Stefan. Unfortunately the “human rights” brigade won't let us get rid of the enemies being allowed to pile into our country. We'd love to give them the boot.
You only need to look at Nigel Farage shouting at them about how wholesomely undemocratic they are to understand this is a curious adventure in politics.
HOWEVER, the European Economic Community as its original free trade block is a very good idea. Trade leads to prosperity (unknown to the argentinians). However, we could be like Switzerland and have a similar agreement, but that costs money, and we're not isolationist. So its better just stay in the EU, but pick and choose which aspects suit us. Which I think is pretty much what we've been doing.
In my opinion.
In the meantime, the Argies are scheming up more devious scams to get what is not theirs .
With that in mind, I really wouldn't know about international terrorism. Maybe you should ask your government about that one.
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