Friday, February 24th 2012 - 19:07 UTC

Caritas Spain: 22% of households below poverty line, another 30% on the cliff

A report examining Spain’s current levels of poverty has made national headlines after its launch revealed shocking figures. Caritas Spain has drawn attention to the precariousness facing millions of people at a time when networks of social aid are in danger of disappearing.

According to Sebastian Mora, 3.3% of the Spanish population receives no income whatsoever

“If these disappear, poverty will shoot up,” said Caritas secretary general Sebastian Mora.

The study commissioned by the Spanish Roman Catholic Church charity organisation, draws attention to the danger facing 11 million people who could fall below the poverty threshold, while confirming that there are around 30.000 homeless people across the country.

Among the findings in the report ‘Exclusion and Social Development 2012’ was published this week by Caritas Spain it states that already 22% of Spanish households are living under the poverty line with a further 30% facing serious difficulties in making ends meet at the end of the month and 580.000 Spaniards, nearly 3.3% of the population, receiving no income whatsoever.

“There are more poor people than last year, and they are poorer. After four years of financial hardship poverty is more widespread, more intense and it is creating a polarised society in which the difference between rich and poor is growing,” said Caritas Secretary Mora.

Citizens are using 34% of their budget for their mortgages and 7% of the population cannot pay their home expenses on time.

In 2010, the poverty threshold further decreased to Euros 7.800 per year, that is, E200 less than in the previous year. Caritas expects the situation to get worse in 2012.

Spain is among the European countries with the highest poverty rates, totalling up to 21.8% of the population -- over the EU average of 16.4%. Only Romania and Latvia rank before Spain in the list.

The report focuses on the decrease of average revenues in Spain over the last years: average revenues shrank from Euros 19.300 in 2007 to today’s E 18.500 that is a reduction of 4%.

“The Church is doing all it can to help fight poverty and the Bishop’s Conference of Spain is going to donate five million Euros to Caritas Spain,” said Mora.
“But the Church needs to do much more.”

Last year Caritas helped and fed one million people, that is twice the numbers of 2007.

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1 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 24th, 2012 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
...can the UK have the Manila Ransom money that you haven't paid yet?
2 Xect (#) Feb 24th, 2012 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
This is the country Danny Burger thinks will attack the UK lol!

In all seriousness though, I've spent time in Spain, like the place and the people and feel for them. I hope Spain is able to make a recovery in the near future since this economic misery causes a lot of good, decent and honorable people incredible hardship and misery.

I am glad the UK continues to help Spain financially and offer support through these bad times.
3 aussie sunshine (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 12:52 am Report abuse
AS if the Uk is not doing it hard with the recession!! elderly folks are dying from the cold because they cannot put on their heaters due to the high cost in heating! and let us not forget the riots in The UK a symbol of decadence in morality and economics.
Since when has The Uk helped Spain financially!! If the UK cannot feed their own.
4 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 10:07 am Report abuse
Yes, elderly people are dying in the UK because of the cold. We typically do something about that, like the people who don't need heating money give theirs to the poorer folk. At least pensioners haven't had all their savings and pensions destroyed through inflation, and the Argentinian national pension company is joke. Get back to eating your tree-bark soup.

“The UK a symbol of decadence in morality and economics”
5 Frank (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 11:22 am Report abuse
This is worth a look.

The benefactors of the subsidies are the rich diegos... the poor just have to get by as best they can...

'Aussie sunshine' is no more australian than me...... maybe he is a diego reffo living in Lakemba with the Lebs......
6 lsolde (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
Maybe we should give “aussie sunshine” an ocker language test like Think gives Argentines tests who don't toe the malvinas party line!
7 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 04:15 pm Report abuse
There's nothing Aussie about this aussie sunshine chap... and that's a FACT.
8 aussie sunshine (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
Greekyoghurt you are as silly as a wet hen mate!! and as for Isolde don´t be a greasy stick up a dead dog´s arse. Fart a crowbar are you blokes for real!!lol
9 Xect (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
3 - Aussie sunshine - You should learn about much the UK provides to the EU that is bailing out.

The UK contributes over 65 Billion to the EU each year!!! And a lot of that is going to Spain and has done so now for many years.

Not to mention the forthcoming bailout proposed by the ECB & IMF will be paid yet again in part with British money.
10 Conqueror (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
@8 Well, son, an Aussie salute to you. The question is: are you a bitzer? Or a brown-eyed mullet? Are you speaking from your clacker? Are you a figjam? Are your kangaroos loose in the top paddock? Is it time for you to get your port? Or are you worth a liquid laugh?
11 ChrisR (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
We have seen the postings this “aussie sunshine” pratt has put up before, I just cannot place the tag at the moment.

Anybody help here?
12 lsolde (#) Feb 25th, 2012 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
@11 ChrisR,
lt could be our old cobber, JohnJones.
But he was smarter than this bloke.
Johnny boy(if it is you),
Never heard anyone say “fart a crowbar”
& its “couldn't drive a stick up a cat's arse” when talking about engine power.
Your idioms are out of context. You're a fake, mate.
l'd say an Argentine thats read a bit about Australian slang.
13 aussie sunshine (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 01:24 am Report abuse
Isolde..I see you don´t have many aussie mates if you did you would have heard of Aussie slang I have used, but I presume you guys are all pommies so it doesn´t surprise me!! we´re getting a lot of your folk coming down under, something must be wrong in the old mother country, but never mind we welcome you with open arms!! The real issue here is The Falklands. The kelpers are getting more and more isolated as each day goes by from South America and they are roughing it out. So come on lads let´s have a fair dinkum forum here with intelligent and conclusive suggestions on how to fix this problem.Bashing this person or bashing that person is getting nobody nowhere.We need real suggestions to help the kelpers and bring down the presssure of war (we don´t need it).So lads,what do you think on
double souvereign rule for the Falklands, Argentine and British? This would please Argentina and help the kelpers keep their way of life and have connection to the mainland.

As Dame Edna would say. “ Goodnight possums”
14 Frank (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 03:06 am Report abuse
'So lads,what do you think on
double souvereign rule for the Falklands, Argentine and British? This would please Argentina and help the kelpers keep their way of life and have connection to the mainland.'

So what do you think of sharing australian sovereignity with Indonesia?
15 lsolde (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 07:30 am Report abuse
@13 aussie sunshine,
l stand by what l have said. You're a fake.
Sure, there's Aussie slang.
A lot of what you are coming out with is stage Australianisms.
Like stage lrish, not used very much by the general population.
l have know many Australians & spent a lot of time in Australia.
Never heard ANYONE say “fart a crowbar” & you NEVER accuse anyone of being a “greasy stick up a dog's arse”!
The correct context of this saying could be,“this truck has not got enough power, it couldn't pull a greasy stick out of a dog's/cat's arse”
You are a fake.
My guess is an English speaking Argentine, maybe in Australia, reading up on Aussie slang.
16 Xect (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 07:37 am Report abuse
Agreed Isolde, he's a troll of some description.
17 Think (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 08:45 am Report abuse

Linguistics are fun......
I see that the British posters in here are suddenly interested in spotting potential trolls.
I can´t help you with “Mr. Aussie Sunshine” true identity but there is a lot of sense in what he says......

Hope to hear more from you, Mr. Aussie Sunshine, whoever you are....
El Think, Chubut, Argentina
18 Frank (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 09:21 am Report abuse
@15.... strayans don't say 'lad'..... nor do they say 'goodnight possums' at noon......
RG prat in pommie land.....
19 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 09:35 am Report abuse
Fake Aussie is Fake. I just watched nothing to declare and I feel they should do more turning away of Argfags at the border. It would help Australia no end, and they could use the same reasoning for not letting damaged biological material get past customs.
20 lsolde (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 10:33 am Report abuse
@17Squatter Think,
You would make alliance with the devil(if he existed!)himself just to get your envious thieving paws on the Falklands.
So a recomendation/praise from you means precisely nothing.
21 ChrisR (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
I think Think is incapable of thinking, perhaps he should think about that.
22 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 01:28 pm Report abuse
Dear Spain King,

When you're rattling on about Gibraltar, please give a thought to the £600'000'000+interest that you owe us from 1763 for the Manila Ransom. I expect the cheque in the post.


Dave 'Bullingdon Riot Club' Cameron.
23 aussie sunshine (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
well as I expected very little intelligence in this forum.
Frank, Indonesia does not have a claim on Australia and in case you did not know both countries get on verywell.
Isolde we use slang down under when we want to but we speak ENGLISH
down here without the slang.
Think, thanks for your comments.
The Uk is getting thrashed in the diplomatic race around the world.
everybody is backing Argentina and the UK is looking silly on every passing day.And what the how is wrong with this newspaper when they are bashing Sean Penn.He has my backing (eventhough I don´t like the man) to express whatever feelings he wishes to express.Those of us born in free societies should Know better than attack FREE SPEECH even if we do not agree with the individual.
This will be my last posting.

24 Frank (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
25 Xect (#) Feb 26th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
Ah Aussie boy, when he says everyone is backing Argentina back in the real world they didn't get a single vote of support over the recent UN conference, amazing level of support that.

Other than that they've got some South American countries cohered into supporting them and a once great actor who turned into a wife beating wannabe diplomat. He's entitled to free speech as am I when I openly mock him for his hypocrisy.

Good luck with that.....
26 Frank (#) Feb 27th, 2012 - 12:33 am Report abuse
@54 ... the people from the country that is now known as indonesia were in northern australia long before the white man..... and the javanese are great colonisers... from Aceh to the PNG border....
Good friends? give it time sunshine.....
27 ElaineB (#) Feb 27th, 2012 - 01:02 am Report abuse
LOLOLOLOLOL! Aussie, my arse. Hilarious. Why do pro-CFKC posters need to assume foreign identities? Why do they think it carries more weight to be foreign than Argentine? I am curious.
28 GreekYoghurt (#) Feb 27th, 2012 - 09:29 am Report abuse
@27 Because of insecurity.
29 lsolde (#) Feb 27th, 2012 - 10:01 am Report abuse
@aussie sunshine,(NOT)
l agree with Frank @ post#26 aussieboy,
lt shows just how little you know.
lndonesia believes that it owns both PNG & Northern Australia.
lndonesia calls its half of the main New Guinea lsland West lrian.
lt calls PNG East lrian & it calls northern parts of Australia South lrian.
That you didn't know this, shows me clearly that you are not Australian.
So Frank is right & you are wrong,
lndonesia DOES have claims on Australia & no they are NOT friends.
30 DanyBerger (#) Feb 27th, 2012 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
@ Xect

“This is the country Danny Burger thinks will attack the UK lol!”

The Spain 30% people below poverty line it’s not so far from 25% of the UK people below poverty line.

Poverty line has nothing to do with their military power resources. So they can attack you pretty easy at least the have a shitty carrier and you don’t. Or may be the can lean their carrier to Argentinians Who knows?

Can you see how bad you are Mohammed?

G'Day mate are you really an Aussie? And you are plotting with these kebab eaters? Give us a break mate and become a republic before Mohammeds invade you. Trust me, turbans on the beach would not be nice for tourism.

Anyway I know who you are now we forgive you we know now that you are not so responsible for your acts.

@Mohammeds I wouldn’t underestimate aussie_sunshine posts if I would be you can be your only solution to avoid war and have a good relation with Argentina. But as fanatical Mohammed that you are sure you will refuse any pacific solution wating for Sharia law coming from Ukistan.
31 lsolde (#) Feb 29th, 2012 - 11:12 am Report abuse
l'd say aussie sunshine is an Argentine agent.
Hes certainly not Australian.
Wonder who they'll come up with next?
You show your stupidity by calling us Mohammeds.
And now you're threatening us with war!
You do know what happened to your pathetic army last time, don't you?
Do you want more of the same?
Do you really think that we want anything to do with you lying, threatening, posing idiots?
Get lost, Danyboy.

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