Cristina Fernandez meets Piñera next week: Falklands air link in the agenda
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez is scheduled to travel to Chile next week to meet with her peer Sebastian Piñera and the Falklands issue expected to outstand in the bilateral agenda, particularly air links with the Islands.
The visit of the Argentine president to Chile has been twice suspended, first on agenda problems and secondly because of Cristina Fernandez thyroid operation last January.
At the meeting next Thursday 15 March, the latest proposal by Cristina Fernandez to have three weekly direct flights to the Falklands, from Buenos Aires, in Aerolineas Argentinas, basically replacing the current Lan Chile link through Punta Arenas, is expected to be addressed.
Last September before the UN General Assembly the Argentine president announced that if the UK did not abide by UN resolutions and started Falklands sovereignty negotiations she would consider banning air space for the Lan Chile link, an issue which apparently had been addressed previously and informally with President Piñera in New York.
However last week Cristina Fernandez announced that Argentina would request a review of the 1999 three-sides agreement (Argentina, UK and Falklands) which includes the air link with Chile, but at the same time made the Aerolineas Argentinas proposal.
The UK has responded that air links with the Falklands is an issue for the Islanders to decide and Governor Nigel Haywood said that in the Falklands everybody is very satisfied and happy with the Lan Chile weekly flight, which once a month calls at Rio Gallegos, Argentina.
The change in attitude from the Argentine government regarding the Falklands issue and outside links, according to Mercosur diplomatic sources is born out of the intent to neutralize the ‘economic blockade’ claims by the Falklands and the UK, and which Mercosur members are not prepared to support. Last December Mercosur members agreed in Montevideo to bar from the region’s ports all Falklands’ flagged vessels.
“This is a clear expression that the interest of Argentina is not to harm any community, but to defend our rights”, said President Cristina Fernandez.
Other issues in the bilateral agenda include trade and Argentina’s latest restrictions or slowing down of the influx of imports which has had a significant impact in neighbouring countries, Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile.
Likewise Chile has requested the extradition from Argentina of a former guerrilla, Galvarino Sergio Apablaza, allegedly involved in the killing of a Senator, Jaime Guzman and the kidnapping for ransom of businessman Christian Edwards back in 1991. The former guerrilla lives in Buenos Aires having been granted political asylum in 2010. His wife holds an important job in the government of Cristina Fernandez.
Another sensitive issue is that of a former Argentine magistrate, Otilio Romano living in Chile and who is accused of human rights abuses in Argentina.
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Can we have an airlink to you instead? It's probably going to be just about as expensive and it takes about 1/3 of the time, all in all.
Thanks,
R. Mcdonald, Falklands.
P.S. Do you think watching Argentina sodomising it's neighbours into supporting it's nonsense is quite fun to watch too?
The only problem is that the Argentinians are run by their pseudo-italiano mafia and the cylons don't talk about fishing rights all the time.
She could use any number of things. LAN do a shitload of business in Argentina. Do I need to go any further?
Hmm, Mafiosa Ghoul insincerity shining through there.
She will relax the import restrictions on chilean goods in return for a cancellation of the LAN flight. That will probably be the leverage with all of the South American countries now complaining about it.
The problem is that she still has the issue of having no money to contend with, which wont go away and will get worse if the import restrictions are lifted.
She'll do a deal with them all and then backslide on it in some way.
The problem for the chileans is that they egt on ok with the UK and of coruse there are 250 Chileans on the FI who wont be able to get home. Also no Argentine family will be able to go to the islands to see their war dead, so she is basically fucking absolutely everybody over and everyone seems to be letting her.
there is no doubt that if the RG's ever got the FI they would use La Campora to physically intimidate the islanders into leaving “of their own free will”. This must be obvious to everyone now. The FI would be ethnically cleansed.
all this “we'd respect the rights of the FI” is of course pure horseshit, they would be got rid of immediately to create a pure Argentine enclave. This really is like a Nazi regime.
someone has to bring it down.
Confucious said, “The superior man [lady] is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions”. The Mafiosa Ghoul is clearly not a superior lady.
Look at the article in the current Buenos Aires Herald by Robert Fox 'Put the Islanders First'. It gives details of THE PLAN from the mid1960's. I am sure the current one is very similar.The Argies are capable of anything.
India’s operation had taken place without condemnation from other countries leading some Argentines, especially naval officer Jorge Anaya, to believe a similar act, based on territorial integrity, could be carried out in the Falklands. This plan was originally conceived by then Captain Jorge Anaya, who, at the time of the Argentine invasion in 1982, had risen to the rank of admiral and was the ranking officer of the Argentine Navy and a member of the ruling junta.
“The plan was simple. It included in sequential order a surprise landing on the islands, the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers. In a naive comparison with the 19th Century, the Argentines reasoned the British had taken similar actions in 1833!
“There is speculation that the ruling Argentine junta, plagued by internal unrest, economic woes including inflation and a threatened labour strike, had planned to activate the plan sometime between July and October 1982. The unexpected sequence of events in March supposedly caused them to take advantage of this opportunity and launch their operation ahead of schedule.
“This idea is denied by General Galtieri, the leader of the junta. He refused to admit any plan for invasion existed and rejected any idea that public discontent with his military regime prompted the invasion as a diversionary tactic.”
I don’t know whether it is widely known on the islands that the invasion plan included “the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers,” but I do know that if the people who have a right, by birth, to the land they love are put first, there can be an end to the conflict over the islands that I will n
after iraq and afgan a stand up fight is just what the doctor ordered.
I cant wait too see these tossers put in their place. They are a set of corrupt thugs and terrorists. Democracy my fucking arse.
Its a vile regime.
But interestingly the British turn up after CFK, so whatever he agrees to, he will have to face mr Cameron, will he not,
For if an embargo is inevitable, then Argentina, will suffer, and those who support her,
And as Chile is on the list of future argentine acquisitions, he is faced with a 50/50. Choice
Agree to her demands, and end up as a future colony of Argentina, [if she ever gets own little empire,]
Or tell to shove off, and he will take his chances with the British,
[p/s]
I wonder if she is aware that RAF Euro fighters, have been going to chi lie every so often???
Just a flying thought.
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Perhaps she will use the Punta Arenas - FAlklands flight to threaten the existence of LAN Argentina.
Who told you that the Lan fly is in the CFK agenda? wow can be than sure she has the intentiond to stop that fly?, plus Argwntina has the right to do it, if you like it or not is your problem.
Ehen you ralk about growing economy of Chile, yes is growin but Chilean people suffer and the government doesn t care, in Chile there are a lot people poor too like in Argentina and most of Suth America states.
But Chile is not the best wxample as a great country. People is on the streets every day to ask for benefits like education, healt care and much more, may br the government has the money but the people suffer or most of the people.
I don t say tthat CFK is right about the subsidios to the people, to me is and was a very bad idea and I don t like how the peronista party runs the country, that is way I leaved Argentina 17 years ago, but you can t put Chile as an good example of the perfect country, come on.
This will be a true test of Chile's resolve and commitment to either freedom and prosperity, or tyranny and corruption. I hope Pinera tells KFC to find a long, hard tool to gag herself with. Anyone notice that Argentina is a lot like the fictional country of Val Verde from Commando and Die Hard 2? South American banana state with poverty and corruption right up to the palace steps.
Mafia-Ghoul KFC: “I'm going to get you for that” *flicks forked tongue*
A) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
B) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
C) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
D) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
E) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
I'm guessing that even someone of your intellect would be able to understand these 5 very very important points, before making another imbecilic statement.
You are a wasting of time, you think you are right but are not.
Have a happy life if you can
Sorry about that, him going against the UN resolutions and all that.
*pat's him on the head*
don t you think?
U am jewish and I don t even share how Israel act with Palestina
Salute greekyoughurt
they cant, as your goverment either walks out, or demands the result before they talk,
no go im afriad,, if you want the brits to talk, you must remove the offending article from your constitution, as a first . logic dont you think think .
1) remove the Falklands sovereignty clause from your constitution,
2) stop teaching your children lies at school about the Falklands,
3) drop your ridiculous “claims”
4) appologise for all the trouble Argentina has caused.
Then we will/can talk.
to me all the royal family are parasitos that doesn t know how work.
Everybody in Uk pay taxes just to support the parasitos, becouse is what this people are, the old quern is a hooker and the family is a waste of money.
how british people still wants to support those parasitos?, and then talk about corruption in Argentina, who the hell the reyal family think they are, may be think that the blue blood is truth, come on
Regardless of the lies you've been taught in school, the UK has spent a lot of time and effort negotiating and discussing the Falklands with the Argentinians, and look at the outcome. In the case of Thin Nestor Jr. he just ups sticks and walks out simply because he's not getting what he demands, and all the other negotiated agreements the Mafia-ghoul and her dead husband have reneged upon. In terms of objective truth the Argentinians are untrustworthy.
So what do you suggest, the UK sits down again to have the same thing happen? What is that?
You are wrong. Argentina can’t deny the overfligth of her territory to civil or commercial aircraft. The so called “Right to Innocent Passage” was established by the International Civil Aviation Agreement, signed by Argentina in 1946, so LAN doesn’t have any permision to ask for to maintain the Punta Arenas Falklands schedule, unless of course, Argentina decides to stop honouring her international obligations one more time.
But fon t worry I don t think CFK will stop the flight, But Argentina can do it.
”Thete(sic) are more than 100 excuses to stop and deny any previous agreement”
Well you might think there are but then you are Argentine (so you claim).
The UK honours its agreements and UN SCR Resolutions, but we do not listen to C24 ramblings from a bunch of no-hopers. Do you know that Argentina is not even a member of C24?
Just a troublemaker as usual.
39 pepegalleta
The only parasite on here is you two, you moan about people insulting you, and then go on to insult our queen,
She has nothing to do with this,
And two wrongs do not make a right,
Ditto argie boy,,ditto .
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To me you are a parasite
i have a right to defend agains pricks like you who seem to think, you can insult, but we cant, your stupid reply puts it just as that, you idiot .
Idiot , try to don t talk to me, keep your noise in you business mother F ,,,,
So up yours.
What kind of agreement about the FI do you want to discuss with UK if you have more than 100 excuses to stop and deny it later? Being naive is to trust CFK.
Hi, nice to meet you, Ism open mind about it, I don t really think this issue can be solve with politicians like Cameron and CFK, I think Philosofos can solve thos problem.
My idea and is only my idea is to share the islands, some kind a merge with an agreement to share the islands, 50 and 50.
Tome is yhe best way to go, may be the islands belong to Argentina or to UK, but politicians are Fu,,, up everething.
If we can agree in 50/ 50 we will stop a pissible future war, share the gosh, shate the land, share the oil snd much more. I think at the en of the day it is ehat is gonna happen, I personally don t like wars, I sm jewish, I lost falily members in second war world, the 6 days war and I still have some family in the Israel army, that is way I know what it is lose family in a war.
I don t think the 50/50 is gonna happen with this 2 presidents Cameron snd CFK, hope the next ones can fo it. If not ghis issue will never be solve and we ll face a new war in the future.
What do you think sbout the 50/50 idea?
Salute, cheers, shalom
dont talk to me stupid wanker, you turd, you think you get falklands, you shit head, you mother fuckers and your turds wont get nothing, we dont want or need wankers like you on these blogges, so dont insult us you turd stit head.
oooooooooooooo,
It has come to my attention from the British secret service that pilgrim
Has death in his mind, ah death, blood guts all that entrailed fried on a spit and served cold, with chilly sauce,
Like all Argies he wants war, but then runs away,, ooopppsss,
Apparently pilgrim can blow up a rubber doll with one finger up his nose,
To wish a bad thing on others will happen to you,
Epegallet if you can blow up a doll then you are truly a wise man to avoid,and as you know what a fxcking arsy argie is, then good luck, arrrg
Skitso,
You morher fucker wish argentina blow up, you start wishing I wish the worst to you and your family, cancer is a very good option for your son or doughter too, a slow dead, I wish you suffer forever. You and your family are not even turds.
Zorete
l think he might have burst a blood vessel!
Snaky little man isn't he?
l had a parting shot at him on another thread but l'm going to ignore him from now on.
Calm down boys and control your temper please. can you?
So I will say this to him, and then no more will I either reply or listen to him,, and he will have to live with the guilt,
Pepegalleta,,,
Any man who wishes the deaths or innocent men women and children,
Are not only antichrists, but a devil worshiper, doing his work,
You are then a potential murderer and a child killer,
And from this day I want nothing to do with you,
You will have to live with the words of a potential child killer and a coward
The rest of your life,
Everyone on these bloggs will look Upon you as a devil worshiper doing the devils work, a coward and a killer and a murderer,
You know longer exist, and these who associate with you,
You know longer exist Pepegalleta,,,
You know longer
You know
You
Gone ?/
Now fuck off .
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We need to find a way to prevent any future war.
I don t think any human want a new Palestina , a lot of people can be dead, don t think as a politsian think as a human.
do you really think a war is the best answer ?, as an Argentinian I think Malvinas belong to Argentina but I think a human life has more value than land
Your comparison with Palestine is ridiculous. To start with the Islanders are not lobbing home-made (or donated) rockets into Argentina, nor are they considered terrorists by any civilised nation or international body.
You can't expect the Falkland Islanders (or anyone else) to believe in Argentina until the war generation has passed on. I suggest Argentina plays dead until at least 2050.
I think something is gonna happen before. South America is progressing as a Region, every body knows that the reason of future was are gonna be for N resourses.
When I mentioned Palestina is becouse there is not end till now.
Not for the aggressives acts.
But again, to me something is gonna happen before 2050.
noce to meet you
Yes, I agree that something will happen before 2050.
The Argentine economy will tank well before that and this time leave you lot destitute without anybody to help you.
Even your fabled 'supporters' will take over your customers while you lick your wounds and cry and whine. So situation normal!
Is there any reason to think it might be different this time?
In 10 more years, Mercosur will be the larger food supplier of the world, tody US is biggest food producer and is trating to negociate with Metcosur to have some control of the food.
You are completly wrong if you think that Argentina will sink. Argentina is in this crapy condition one of the most important country in south America, actually the second most important market, why do you think UK is pushing to do more business with Argentina, ehy UK is buying beef from Argentina?,
Argentina will change government in 3 more years, to me CFK and her party is over, new blood will be in charge of the country. And after all the issues a lot of countrys still wants to buy and be in touch with Argentina, including UK.
Mercosur is and will be a powerfull region that every country in this world will want to be parteners, food, energy and water are the future, sorry if that bodets you cos UK doesen t have it, that s way is pushing Argentina with trades, doesen t want to lose the opportunity to negociate with Mercosur. The good thing whfn your country main products are food is that dvery country want and need ypur product, sorry if UK doesen t have it. But to me will be s pleasure to sell food to feed UK people, just ve careful, China is buying almost everething and could leave UK with out Mercosur food, that mean, Uk will need to pay more for ower food.
Have fun
Have fun
Is there any reason to think it might be different this time?
Only the same as a snowflake in hell! :o)
Europeans sice 2002 start coming to Argentina to run business it is just an example , Brasil will be the 5 biggest economy in the world, Mercosur needs to mature and then will be a very strong region.
Have you ever heard of Ceuta and Melilla, both Spanish colonies in Morroco
The Morrocans would like them back but Spain says no. What's the difference between this situation and Gib. ? If the population in Gib. want to join with Spain, they are welcome to do so. Maybe they have a race memory of Franco and his benevolent regime. They feel safer under the British flag.
You could draw a comparison with the FI and the Argentine. - another quasi fascist regime.
Right enough, life is hell in the UK. Things are so bad that we all want to emigrate to the paradise that is Argentina
Every body blame Argentina but still a lot if people from America and Europa are living in Argentina, there has to be a reason fir that.
Don t you think.?
another question, why Us and Europeans are buying properties and land in Argentina?, becouse a lot people here said that Argegentina is one if the worst places to be, there has to be a reason, do you know why?
cheers
I'm pleased to hear that you don't want any wars though. I have to say, with great regret, that I foresee a time ahead where states will be competing for ever decreasing resources. There will be 'Darwinian' natural laws applying not just to individuals but to countries also. I believe that part of the fuss that the Argentinian government is making presently results from a sense that the UK is having to deal with economic problems and perhaps is militarily stretched. Weakness is perceived. This unfortunately just confirms me that states will resort to behaviour that is straight out of the school playground. There are plenty of countries in the world that are currently increasing their military spending, China, Russia, presumably also Iran and all for 'peaceful purposes' . I think the likelihood of future bullying and intimidation occurring between states is set to increase. Britain and Argentina could have co-operated to mutual benefit with regard to the oil resources around the Falklands but Argentina pulled out of this. I believe Britain should now be strong with regard to the bullying tactics of CFK towards the Falkland Islands. We should be strong as other countries no doubt would be in this situation and claim much needed resources for ourselves....after all it is our territory, claimed perfectly legitimately, settled at the same time as the lands in South America were but by different peoples. This truth may be painful to Argentina but it's still the truth.
@ 67 aussie sunshine .. don't be such a pessimist in all of your posts..
I thought I was a pessimist until I read what you have to say!
Couldn't agree more.
They want the Falklands because its the springboard to Antarctica.
They perceived Britain as being weak, so thought they could just take what they wanted & we could do nothing about it.
Look at the year they made their Antarctic “claim”-1942.
We were on the defensive in North Africa & the Far East.
They thought that we were about to go under so wanted like an aasvogel, to get in on the kill, while we were down!
Actually, when the Antarctic wars over resources begin, l think that neither Argentina or the UK are going to get anything.
China,Russia,lndia,Brazil,USA will get it all.
@67 argentine sunshine, sorry, aussie sunshine.
Welcome back.
Being a person who wants to do the right thing,
Don't you think that Spain may have a better case if they “returned” Ceuta & Melilla to Morrocco, as Clyde15 pointed out?
Hope Argentina and UK could sit dawn and make a some kind of merge about ot.
Ig is not gonna happen with Cameron and CFK but eill see the next ones.
Argentina started buying weapons that is not a good sign .
Will see
@73 Isolde...yes, very astute observations. It just doesn't pay to be weak! With regard to the Falklands resources, I think the Chinese probably have their eyes on these and the Argentinians would just love to sell these to them and would probably be ripped off in the process..
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