South Georgia Marine Protected Area covers over one million sq kilometres
One of the worlds largest Marine Protected Areas (MPA) has been created around South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, waters that are amongst the most productive in the Southern Ocean. The SGSSI MPA, which was declared on February 27th, covers more than 1 million km². The report is from the South Georgia Newsletter, February edition.
David Attenborough, who recently presented the BBC’s Frozen Planet series, said he was “delighted” and that the marine reserve was “...timely given the dramatic change that the Polar Regions are currently undergoing” and will “help protect the unique and precious wildlife of South Georgia and Antarctica.”
All commercial bottom trawling is banned from the area, which will protect the benthos on the seafloor. Long-lining will be allowed, but only at depths of more than 700m, and will only affect a small area of the MPA and is only allowed under very strict regulation. There are also already three Restricted Impact Areas, occupying 3563km², in which long-lining is not normally allowed. They were established to protect vulnerable benthic fauna, protect juvenile toothfish and provide a refuge for large toothfish.
Commissioner Nigel Haywood, who signed the legislation said, “The waters around South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are among the most productive in the Southern Ocean, with very high biodiversity. We remain committed to the highest standards of environmental management in this unique and globally important UK Overseas Territory. Whilst today’s MPA announcement represents a hugely significant step in our management of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, we will not rest on our laurels and will continually strive to improve our already excellent management of the Territory.”
UK Foreign Office Minister Henry Bellingham welcomed the declaration, saying the instatement of the MPA, “demonstrates the UK’s effective environmental stewardship of this unique and remote part of the world.” and that it demonstrates the UK's “ongoing commitment to marine conservation and protection of the globally important biodiversity of our Overseas Territories.”
The MPA includes 'no-take zones' for the first 12 nautical miles around each island, including Shag Rocks. These no-take zones (over 20,000 km² in total) will protect the foraging grounds of many of the Territory's land-based marine predators such as penguins, seals and seabirds and protect the spawning areas of many demersal fish species.
GSGSSI will continue to license fisheries for toothfish, ice-fish and krill in the MPA (outside of the no-take zones) and use the revenue to patrol the region to prevent illegal fishing and undertake research and monitoring. These fisheries are extremely carefully managed, with both the icefish and toothfish fisheries certified as sustainably managed by the Marine Stewardship Council.
The new MPA enshrines in law much of the existing protection in the SG Maritime Zone and represents an important and significant addition to a global network of MPAs - increasing the area of the world's oceans formally protected as MPAs by almost 25%.
Dr Martin Collins, Chief Executive of the Government of South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands said, “South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are remarkable places, supporting an amazing density of wildlife. Establishing the SGSSI MPA is a key part of our long-term stewardship of the islands and demonstrates that, even in a place as special as South Georgia, you can have sustainable fisheries with minimum impact on the ecosystem.”
Dr Phil Trathan, Head of Conservation Biology at the British Antarctic Survey, who advised the Government of South Georgia on the establishment of the MPA said, “South Georgia is a globally important island that deserves the strongest level of protection. I believe that this is a major step forward for conservation, not just at South Georgia, but also for the wider Antarctic.”
The area to the south of the South Sandwich Islands, below the 60° latitude, is not included in the new MPA because it is already a 'no take zone' and GSGSSI does not issue licences to fish in this area, however it does protect the area of its Maritime Zone that lies south of the line.
In future there may be even greater protection within the new MPA as a result of two current projects, one funded by the Darwin Initiative to investigate benthic biodiversity and possible threats to it from the longline fishery, and another, funded by the Overseas Territories Environment Program, focusing on krill. Both projects will be completed in April 2012.
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Who, exactly , have the British stolen this 'huge area of sea and land' from?
I did not know that the Daleks ever had names but I see you have one.
I am a Dalek!DESTROY! DESTROY! DESTROY!
Some Argie Malvinistas show base levels of human intelligence but @1 always reminds me of the computer generated phone calls trying to sell insurance or offering to help you claim your mis sold PPI back.No human intelligence whatsoever.
Surely even you must agree this is great news?
I'm guessing their demands for other people's property is as close to piracy as it gets (if they were in a boat)
Please john, explain to us how Argentina owns South Georgia.
l await your illuminating answer with bated breath.
The UK in 1947, 1951, 1953 and 1954 offered to take the sovereignty claim over South Georgia and South Sandwich Island to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the Hague but this was subsequently turned down by Argentina. Then UK took it to the ICJ unilaterally in 1955, Argentina declined to cooperate, citing a lack of jurisdiction of the ICJ into Argentinian affairs. (source: www.wildisland.gs/atlantis/gettingitright.pdf)
Another great case of the Argentinians ignoring the UN, avoiding the ICJ to resolve things peacefully and not engaging with countries in order to resolve things through negotiation. These timings coincide with the usually mentioned UN calls for the UK and Argentina to sit down and discuss the South Atlantic Islands, which apparently Argentina has flat out refused to do.
Kind of contradictory that after ignoring the UN resolutions, claiming the ICJ has no jurisdiction, invading islands, walking out of negotiations that they would then claim the UK is not wanting to sit down and negotiate.
The Unted Nations will recieive the Argentine mission in the short coming time Argentina's sovereignty claim.
Thirthy years after the war ,the UN Special Committee on Decolonization will analyse the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples.
Almost within swimming distance of Carmelo (Uruguay), the Precambrian bedrock island of Martín García boasts a fascinating history, lush woodlands, and an almost unmatchable tranquility as a retreat from the frenzy of the federal capital and even provincial suburbs.
The UK is a vehicle for white English arrogant self interest and has no moral right to the ownership of territory in the southern hemisphere or anywhere else for that matter. Any overseas territories we still have are the illegitimate remnants of a bygone era, acquired and held by expeditionary naval and military forces, funded from the plunder of Spanish treasure ships, the exploitation of native peoples and of slaves. These territories (and similar US, FR and NZ ones) are the last visible remnants of a repugnant and offensive concept, colonialism, which the UN GA has resolved to remove from the face of the earth.
Right, as they are not British they must be someone else's. The nearest populated land is the Malvinas archipelago and that is a part of the territory of Argentina. Therefore the islands are a part of Argentina.
I rest their case.
although enforcing strict regulating in such a huge remote area wont be easy, unless plans are afoot,ill leave it at that.
@15 So your whole argument is 'I don't like this country and they're a bit close to somewhere'. I can see the depth of your argument there.
Argentina of course would just own them purely as custodians of the nature.
@15 ah, its tongue in cheek. I thought you'd finally exposed yourself as a rabid malvinista. You know, the 'Im considering this argument from a neutral perspective'... Oh f%$@ it! Sieg Heil!! Las Malvinas, Las Malvinas!!!'
“Following the revelations in the US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks and published on the UK Guardian website, Mauritius is now suing the United Kingdom over the so-called “Marine Protected Area” created around the Chagos Islands to deny the native Chagossians the right to return to their homeland”
blogs.alternet.org/danbacher/2011/01/20/mauritius-sues-british-government-over-chagos-marine-protected-area/
I know if I was a penguin living on South Georga I would want to be a British penguin!
Brit, a British penguin is a dead penguin.
”Just across the water in Chile and Argentina, the same species of penguins have increased in number, due to the co-operation of the governments of Chile and Argentina in protecting these penguins from commercial fishing. Unlike the Falklands, where penguins are dying from starvation due to lack of protection (See Falklands Penguins Starve to Death), the governments of Chile and Argentina have established no-fishing zones around penguin colonies to protect penguins from commercial fishing”
www.seabirds.org/
I concede Marcos you are probably right about the penguins so I guess you must agree with me about Argentinian domestic problems, starving children, not honouring contractual obligations, turning fee paying ship passengers around, making false claims to the UN, telling lies to the EU and claiming the Falklands?
Are you autistic?
@24 That's great, but can we get one of the Argentinians who have been irreperably tarnished through endless schooltime brainwashing to tell us why the Arg.gov believes it has a right to South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands. I'm in need of a laugh.
Thanks Argies.
Yes Marcos we do have domestic problems too. But I believe that Argentina's main problem is created by the people that govern their country. The Argentinian people truly deserve better and should realise that they are being duped by that 'old Falklands chestnut' which is constantly used to distract the people from real issues at home.
You're clearly autistic.
@31 Margo doesn't have the intellectual discrimination of a slug! What's lower down than a slug? I know. I know. Please sir, I know. A maggot or an argie! Correct! Go to the top of the class and receive the supreme accolade of becoming a British citizen.
Crisp, concise, correct and complete personal take on the Argentinean argument…………
Do you have a similar one on the British argument?
I would very much like to hear it…….
Where London--Washington--Santiago--NATO --Tel Aviv to decide on military intervention against Argentina for whatever reason ,there would be absolutely nothing Argentina could about it.
the British know thisvery well,that's why they are laughing.
The reason he johnfarrel2050
,, cant answer you lot, is because he bought the islands, from a back street seller, [conman][yes][he][was][coned][ha ha]
Then he sold it in a dodgy deal to CFK for 20 pounds, and she now claims it as her own,, but that would amount to greed, so it belongs to Argentina, [ha that’s better] but sadly they are to slow, to greedy , and the British, to save any future argument has turned it into a nice marina,
And it’s British, so argentine will have not, her greed, and CFK will go back to johnfarrel2050
And demand her 20 pounds back plus 5,000 pounds interest, and then johnfarrel2050
Will just have to donate them to charity, and that’s the whole truth,
mmmmmm
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You poor, misunderstood little sausage ……............... :-)
PS:
”Still” waiting for your personal take on the British argument about the ”Malvinas Issue”
A crisp, concise, correct and complete one as your Argentinean one………
I must be missing something here.
There were no natives / other inhabitants to steal from. South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands are in the middle of the Atlantic, so no 'near my country' claim possible for anyone.
johnfarrel2050 where are you from?
Tell me who should run South Georgia / South Sandwich and why?
South Atlantic is cursed and blessed region.
The case I put forward above and which was so roundly condemned by my compatriot (but subsequently endorsed @42) was for the Argentinian claim to South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands (SG&SSI).
To my understanding, the UK claim to SGSSI is based on first discovery, habitation and subsequent assertion based on primacy and proximity (territorial integrity as some might say). This was in line with international laws and norms applicable both at the time and now. Sovereignty has been regularly and successfully enforced on a number of occasions against both unarmed and armed usurpation by a South American state with colonial ambitions in the South Atlantic and Antarctica. Being a separate British Overseas Territory and a considerable distance away, the islands are not legally a part of the Falkland Islands but, for convenience, they are administered from there.
Not nearly as emotional, I know, but then this is an Anglo not an Iberian justification. I do hope you can agree with it. If you don't you can always offer a pastiche of your own.
[fact]
India and china and the USA produce more rubbish into the air, of all kinds in one day,, then the whole of the British isle does in a year [fact]
,,,
Basic geopolitical common sense indicates that maintaining a powerful military is absolutely vital for any self-respecting country
[not true] many decent and well respected countries have little or no defences, the rep of Ireland and Switzerland as just two examples .
In Argentina case Britain has a bad track record ,having repeatedly tried to invade it over the past 300 years.
[first off, argentina is considered Major non-NATO ally (MNNA) is a designation given by the United States government to close allies who have strategic working relationships with US armed forces but are not members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization,
The british may or may not have been at war with argentina in the past, but to be fair, and anyone actualy prove that the british was activly INVADING argentina, rather than just at war with them,
There is a factual difference between actual invasion, and fighting over city for example .
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Your crisp, concise, correct and complete personal take on the Argentinean argument about the ”Malvinas Issue” at (15) is “still” one of the best British comments ever posted at MercoPress.
Even your intended pun at the Spanish would work at our favor in most of the World’s fora.
Let’s now separate the hull from the groat in your ”not nearly as emotional”, personal take on the British argument about the ”Malvinas Issue”
But… wait a minute……...... It’s not about the “Malvinas Issue” anymore!
It’s only about South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands!
And “them Islands” are yours because of proximity!
Proximity to the Malvinas Islands!
Divide et Impera!
Let’s put it this way, lad……
When making pastiches, you are a better Iberian than Brit. :-)
You're getting desperate now, Thinkus.
You know that DoveoverDover was just showing the rest of us how illogical the Argentine mind works.
By agreeing with him & fawning on him it just reminds us of how Argentina thanks people & fora around the world for their non-existant “support” that they didn't know they'd given.
Pathetic coming from a travelled “man of the world” like you.
But l forgive you *flutters eyes*♥
And just for clarification, though really I'm surprised and disappointed that you need it, it is the proximity of the SSI to SG that is the basis of the linking of the two into a single territorial entity, not proximity to the Falklands.
And I wish people would stop quoting Latin at me. It brings back awful memories of cruel and unusual treatment at prep school.
And another thing, the subject article is about SG&SSI (which I understand is known in the Spanish speaking world by the literal translation rather than anything distinctly different ) and not the Falkland/Islands Malvinas as it is known in the UN when writing in English. It is the Argentinian claim that links them together whilst the UK claim deliberately keeps them separate.
And please stop calling me lad. At my age I find it both disrespectful and inappropriate.
Uhhhhhmmmm…..
Could use myself a delicious Ulster Fry with lots of bacon rashers, sausages, lamb's kidneys, boxty and farl.........
Back to my café con leche & tostadas though…………. :-(
About the subject of the article being the SG&SSI and not the Malvinas/ Falklands……; sorry but it was you that, very correctly, linked them together at (15) by saying:
”ANY overseas territories we still have are the illegitimate remnants of a bygone era….”
”ANY overseas territories….”
”ANY….”
I will, of course, stop calling you ”Lad” if it upsets you.
At my age is too easy to call nearly everybody else a ”Lad” or a ”Lass”.
What about ”Young Man” ? :-)
I insist however in my right to use Latin when deemed appropriate or necessary.
I luuuuv Latin………..
Look, to be honest, most Brits don't recognise the anti-British feeling that still lingers in some parts of the former empire and elsewhere and when they see signs of it they put it down to jealousy, hypocrisy, vindictiveness or feeble mindedness. For example, as recently as last week the Prime Minister of one former BOT, now fully independent, asked for reparations from Britain for its role in slavery. In that it was met with anything it was met with incredulity. Any of us who think about it at all think it's time to draw a line and move on but I can see why others don't agree (visible legacies of greatness such as the permanent seat on the UNSC, close relationship with the US and overseas possessions).
This is an interesting one I've just read about Falklands Independence. Google Chrome translated it for me.
es.mercopress.com/2010/05/28/las-falklands-malvinas-muy-contentas-con-ser-britanicas-y-los-de-afuera-son-de-palo
en.mercopress.com/2010/05/27/falklands-happy-as-british-overseas-territory-and-don-t-like-being-told-by-others-what-to-do
Hope you enjoyed your fried breakfast….
Now,… as in the “Benny Issue”; they were “Still Bennies” after your futile prohibition attempt.
The “Malvinas Issue” is “Still the Malvinas Issue” after your futile partition attempt.
And it includes, of course, the Georgias del Sur & Sandwich del Sur Islands.
Further, I'll bet my frustration at being unable to stamp out the use of the term Bennies and to explain the British position on SG&SSI is nothing when compared to the frustration that the futility of the Argentinian claim to the South Atlantic Islands causes to its proponents.
The dogs need walking and then there's lunch and the rugby. Don't rush to reply.
Not-Kohen, do you know that the Chagos Arcvhipelago, as you call it, was bought by the British from the Mauritians. If you have an issue with that, then go and speak to the Mauritians about it.
Not-Kohen, as a lawyer can you explain why the Argentinians think they own South Georgia and SS Islands? It doesn't look like you wanted to take the issue to the ICJ on several occasions and then you claimed the ICJ had no jurisdiction over Argentinian affairs. So why do you keep talking about the ICJ as a solution?? Thanks.
Re Chagos: have a look at Resolution 2066 of the United Nations, please. “bought by the British from the Mauritians”!!!
Re SG/SSI & ICJ: The British application against Argentina was very careful in order to exclude any acceptance of the jurisdiction of the Court with regard to the sovereignty dispute about the Falklands/Malvinas themselves. It only concerned what the British called the “Falkland Islands Dependencies” at that time (Antarctica, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands). Here are the two relevant footnotes of the British application:
“It results from the present Application that the United Kingdom Government
accepts the jurisdiction of the Court in respect of the questions hereby submitted to it, and in particular that of the title to sovereignty over the islands and lands of the Falkland Islands Dependencies. The present Application does not constitute a submission to the jurisdiction of the Court in any other respect, or as regards the title to sovereignty over any territory outside the Dependencies.”
“It will be understood that although, for reason of convenience, the territories to
which the present Application relates were constituted Dependencies of the Falkland Islands for administrative purposes. The British title to them is a separate and independent one, which in no way derives from or depends on the title to the Falkland Islands themselves.”
One of the reasons Argentina invoked for not accepting the invitation made by the UK through the application to accept the jurisdiction of the Court was that the British government had excluded the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) themselves.
1)We own all these lslands,
2)You donot.
3)You want OUR lslands
4)We are not going to give them to you.
5)What will you do about it/what can you do about it?
6)ICJ,but you won't, because you know that they are NOT your lslands.
7)War,you won't do that either.
8)So all you do is whine, whinge, moan & cry.
That won't work either
Get used to it
They are NOT your lslands & NO, you CANNOT have them.
Tough bananas♥
Don't quote UN resolutions at me, because Argentina was in failed to abide by UNSCR 502 and was in the process of failing to abide by UNSCR 708 when the UK took back possession.
The fact is, you didn't want to go to the ICJ with SG & SSI because your claim was as weak as it is for the Falklands, i.e. you'd lose. The Argentinian claim for SG & SSI is particularly hilarious, and as a pretend-lawyer I'm sure you'd appreciate that Argentina doesn't have a moral nor ethical leg to stand on when it comes to it's uptake of UN suggestions.
Have fun there.
@42 You have a little problem with geography, don't you? Here's a couple of clues. The UK is in a group of islands (the British Isles) OFF the north-west coast of Europe. The Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, on the other hand are groups of islands in the South Atlantic. They are NOT in South America and they have been BRITISH for longer than your pitiful country has existed. The BRITISH South Atlantic islands are BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORIES. They are, in effect, independent and locally governed, except for defence and foreign affairs. The UK (Britain) is recognised by the UN as the Administering Authority, insofar as the UK requires any recognition. The UK has stolen NOTHING! The rest of your comment is the usual meaningless drivel.
@46 Shame that the country that contributes most to global warming (if it exists) is China. Followed, in order, by the United States, India, Russia, Japan, Germany, Iran, South Korea, Canada and Saudi Arabia. Then comes the United Kingdom. Closely followed, amongst others, by Mexico and Brazil.
@49 Britain has NEVER attempted to invade “Argentina”, wherever that is. In 1806 and 1807, British forces conducted raids against Spanish colonies.
@52 Of course it isn't. South America is cursed. It has argieland in it!
@59 No it isn't. But yours is!
@60 Thick feckwit. Your problem, feckwit, is that you don't understand the 21st century. I expect that you thought that the world would be miraculously turned into something you like. Doesn't work like that. The people that own things still own them. You can't change it. You have neither the clout nor the intelligence. Go whinge to someone who cares!
@71 Bad luck, not-Kohen. “You” should know that there are no such things as Chagossians.
@72 Typical argie. Quote a non-binding resolution. Stuff the UN!
I've struggled to understand the fact that Argentina tells the UK, an Atlantic nation consisting of Atlantic Islands, to get out of South America. Argentina then tries to expand its territory to include a set of Atlantic Islands that aren't in South America, they're in the Atlantic... just like the UK is. You would have thought the Argies could have mustered that bit of logic, and considered their own rhetoric inappropriate.
UNGA Resolution 2066 (XX):“Noting with deep concern that any step taken by the administering Power to detach certain islands from the territory of Mauritius for the purpose of estabishing a military base would be in contravention of the Declaration [1514], and in particular of paragraph 6 thereof”
UNSC Resolution 502 (1982). Also included as Number 3: “Calls on the Government of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norther Ireland to seek a diplomatic solution to their differences and to respect fully the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations”.
The UK does not respect the right of self-determination when applicable, and invoke it to perpetuate a colonial situation where is not applicable.
The UK is in breach of it obligation to settle international disputes through the available peaceful means.
Go to negotiations. If there is no direct agreement in which all interests can be taken into account, then recourse to the ICJ is a serious alternative I strongly suggests. If UK wins, only then “end of story” (Cameron). If Argentina wins, the only thing to negotiate will be the date of the withdrawal of British administration. And it will also be “end of story”.
Until 1982 we were negotiating with Argentina at a table about everything to do with the Falklands, and being nice. Argentina then decided they wanted the negotiation to involve weapons, going against UNSCR resolution which “demanded” that you leave the Falklands. Argentina ignored UNSCR 502 and the negotiations were concluded when the Argentinians got their arses handed to them on a plate. They lost the negotiations... and by uti possedetis they lost their claims. As a side note the Argentinians were planning on being in breach of UNSCR 708, just to add a cherry onto the cake.
Now read this very carefully, Mr Not-lawyer, until 1982 the UK was negotiating with argentina when the Argentitians decided not to settle the issue through peaceful means, not the UK. Then after the war the UK fulfilled its resolutions by sitting down to negotiate with the Argentinians who then decided they didn't like negotiating peacefully and stormed out. The Argentinians were in breach of the UN resolutions, not the UK. Do you understand?
Your Chagossian points are unrelated. Your points around HK are unrelated.
“Go to negotiations.” Why? We've fulfilled our obligations to the UN. We've even made the Falklands self-governing as per the mission of the C24.
Why would we bother going to the ICJ when we have no issue? When we did take islands to the ICJ Argentina refused to be a part of peaceful negotiations and said the ICJ had no jurisdiction. Any negative outcome from the ICJ for Argentina will be met with the same, 'you have no jurisdiction here'. I don't see why the UK should go to the ICJ given these two very important points.
Now Not-kohen, you're not a very good not-lawyer because you don't seem to grasp the simple concept called a 'precendent'
That's the end of story.
Story ends!
I'm just expressing the reality of the situation, Argentina lost the Falkland Islands when 'they' decided to negotiate 'militarily' and lost. The UK didn't choose this path, Argentina did. I'm sorry you're sour about that, but as a not-lawyer you will understand that that's just life. No amount of legalising at the ICJ or undignified Blubbing-in-public at the UN is going to change that fact, and the Argentinian claims on SGSSI are simply laughable, in a laughing out loud rolling on the ground style. Your nation (the one you abandoned) needs to just grow up and stop acting like a bunch of children that cannot have someone else's toy.
Yet again, I see you have an ingrained dislike for gentiles, but reality is again not on your side because we outnumber you. This is probably because God likes us more, so as a non-yiddish speaker (another repugnant goyim to you no doubt) do me the one justice of talking to me in a language I can understand. If you want to say 'get lost' then do so in English.
Many thanks.
Argentina will at some point need to find another forum at the UN to air its complaint but by then the Falkland Islands will be fully economically self sustaining, tied in to US as well as UK and EU political and financial interests and in a position to declare independence as a constitutional monarchy within the Commonwealth if it wishes. Either way, it will be so attractive to English speaking migrants that the population will exponentially. Take a look at Dubai if you need an example of what this might look like.
And I pay taxes that go to the UN for them to waste my money on discussing something which has SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF DECOLONISING???
It makes me MADDD!!! FFFFFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
John F - love to see all this “truthfull evidence” that you and the rest of the world allegedly has that shows the Islands belong to Argentina?
Hey- your supporters in Rio got flattened yesterday I hear! A group went to demonstrate about the Islands on a street where Prince Harry was going to passby - along came a running group of Brazilian girls wanting to see Harry - arse up went the Argies and their Banners!
You say that Argentina is going to need another forum to whinge in,
May l suggest the Flat Earth Society.
You are starting to sound a bit like Mr. Beef, our resident British oil expert...
He used to call Malvinas for Bahhhhhhhhrain :-)
For all those dreams to come true, oil in commercial quantities must be found first.....
Let's just wait for the CPR .....shall we?
I have noticed that, even the most bullish investors at III are turning their “great expectations” violently down.
≤ 205 mmbbls my latest, uneducated guess.
Certainly not enough to start exploitation in “normal” conditions.
And, I can assure you, we will be doing our utmost to ensure that conditions will be all other than “normal”.
Nothing moves quickly in the world of the UN GA so an odd CPR here or there won't make much difference. But as you've broken cover, I can look forward to the next Presidential initiative with even greater interest having been assured that you and she are doing your utmost to create abnormality.
Marine conservation is incredibly important. Because we can't see and count the fish etc they are treated as if there is an inexhaustible supply. Over the last hundred years we have devastated the oceans of their life.
Even with massive ships, enormous nets, hi tech sonar and a greater understanding of marine life than ever before it still takes more man hours to catch a fish than it did in the age of sail. (trust me - have a google)
The situation is idiotic and many species will never recover. You don't have to kill every last fish in a species to make them extinct or beyond recovery. Once the balance is dirupted to a far enough extent then invasive species take over and there is simply no way back for those we've destroyed.
Think about it this way - saying we've decimated the whale stocks sounds emotive and bad - but it's actually an enormous understatement. Decimation is the loss of 1 in 10 but many whale species are down below 10% of their natural levels. Decimation would only be down to 90%.
Thanks to the Botox Queen and her late hubby an acceptable compromise simply doesn't exist.
Meanwhile and for the foreseeable future the UK will get on with the business of running all of its territories as it sees fit.
To return to your fixation - Argentina has abandoned the previously agreed fishing conservation agreements in the area and it is rumoured to have been overfishing in order to take as much of the pie as possible and harm the income of the Falklands which it heavily relies on.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBH4g_ua5es&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I don’t suppose you Argies know who killed JFK do you,
After all, you seem to know everything about us,
Was it the British secret service, or is this just another diversion from the real article, or another distraction .
Justa thought.
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Sweetly put.
61 Think
Ok….Lets take a rough average of the last 5 years fisheries in the South Atlantic…........................................... shall we?:
Argentina catched ~600,000 tons fish per year in an EEZ zone of ~1,200,000 km2.
That gives a catch of 0.5 tons of fish per km2 per year.
Malvinas catched ~ 200,000 tons fish per year in an EEZ zone of ~140,000 km2.
That gives a catch of 1.42 tons of fish per km2 per year.
In short,……. Malvinas “extracts” nearly 3 times as much fish per square km. than Argentina.
Lets now take the “Per Capita” fish extraction ..............shall we?:
600,000 tons of fish divided by 40,000,000 Argentines: 15 kgs of fish per Argentinean.
200,000 tons of fish divided by 3,000 Mavinas squatters: 66,666 kgs of fish per squatter!
In short,….. Malvinas “extracts” 4,444 times more fish Per Capita than Argentina!
en.mercopress.com/2011/04/07/falklands-skua-population-has-declined-by-almost-half-in-five-years
Quite greedy people those Malvinas squatters, dont you “Think”?
If you mean squatter as in someone who lives on another person's land, then I guess you're talking about Argentinians. Yes, Argentinians are greedy and love genocide.
Have a nice day!
You two need to get a room or at the very least, stop flirting with each other and making the rest of us watch. It's making me feel slighty ill and dirty all at the same time.........
“Caught” not “catched” old boy. It's the 21st century - not the 18th.
As a keen boat owning fisherman I would also like to point out that while your maths may be impeccable (though I haven't actually checked it) the stats and your logic there are meaningless.
It could equally be true that you've plundered your reources so heavily in the past that there are simply fewer stocks to harvest. It should also be noted that fish are not evenly distributed in the seas.
A final point is that it could simply be that Argentines are rubbish fishermen.
As I said before....
Just “Faux Indignation” from you.
As long as they are British, it doesn't matter for you that they catch ~70 tons fish per person per year.
A real “Eco-warrior” you are..........
Following your logic all Falklanders must be enormous eating all those fish but from pictures I've seen they look pretty normal to me. It's simply one of their natural resources.
Labelling me an eco-warrior is laughable - I own three V8s, doubt man made global warming and like my steaks to bleed - but it doesn't stop me seeing the painful truth that the oceans are empty due to man.
www.anadarko.com/Investor/Pages/Presentations,Item.aspx?eventid=4732275&eventtitle=Anadarko+Petroleum+Corporation+Investor+Conference
I commend Explorations slide 127 to you if you haven't. You'll like the graphics. Normal it certainly isn't.
Is it not a truer fact, that if people stopped buying and eating the little fishes,
Then there would be more fish stocks in the sea for ???
All this sounds a bit fishy to me,
But hey, that’s what fingers are for, are they not, lolol.
Justa fishy joka mmm
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Come on Think - you can do better than that.
Ista Quidem Vis Est?
Tu Quoque, McDoD, Filii Mei!
I can assure you that I’m just a normal Argentinean, provoked and aggravated out of his previous quasi-total “Malvinas Issue” indifference by the actions of the British government during the past~3 years…………
Just like millions of other Argentineans, Latin-Americans and lately Hollywoodians :-)
I have been called many “names” and accused of being many “things” during my short two years presence in these pages…..
The only epithets I personally ever use in here are the following…:
“Brutish”, when they threaten to nuke my poor little Country…
“Turnips”, when they bore me with their turnipidity…
“Pirates”, when they behave like pirates…
“Squatters”, when they are squatting…
Let’s please keep the assumptions and insults to a minimum, shall we?....
Ps:
We could “Share” the cost of the room………..;-)
Do you know any good recipies for Turnips??
I think “Think” could use some, seems quite fixated on them....bless
Blackadder: [Baldrick is applying for Parliament] Minimum bribe level?
Baldrick: One turnip. Oh, hang on, I don't want to price myself out of the market.
You say :
turnip
I say :
potato......radish....
Others around Cristina Kirchner that are also crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
l hope you are provoked & aggravated beyond measure.
l hope that you are really provoked, aggravated & extremely frustrated especially when you see the laden Supertankers enroute from the Falklands to their lucrative markets in Europe, Asia & North America.
Furthermore, l propose that we give these tankers girl's names.
l suggest that to add insult to injury we call the biggest one Malvina.
That should get these malvinistas frothing at the mouth & gnashing their teeth in impotent rage!
Tremendous fun. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Please stop calling me dear. At my age (and gender) I find it both disrespectful and inappropriate.
:-)
Dear, dear Think♥
What my country wants, much to my disbelief, is to play a sort of 'the dog in the manger'.
criminals, of course
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