Saturday, April 28th 2012 - 06:11 UTC

Falklands’ budget enjoys additional surplus boosted by the oil industry

The Falkland Islands oil industry has contributed with an unexpected addition of £9.2M to the Falkland Islands Government (FIG) budget in the first nine months of the financial year 2011/12, reported the Islands government Standing Finance Committee.

Management Accountant Daniel Heath confirmed a positive performance of £ 10.898M

The contribution is made up of income tax from oil workers, and corporation tax from oil companies, among other items.

Added to this, £5.6million from illex licence revenue (£4million above budget) and favourable performances by a number of government directorates, FIG now boasts a budget surplus of £14.513M, added the Committee Meeting.

Compared to a revised budget surplus of £3.615M gives a positive performance of £10.898M confirmed the Falklands’ government Management Accountant Daniel Heath.

Regarding the illex revenue Director of Fisheries was reported to have assured that the department anticipates no more than a 40% refund to fishing companies. A 50% refund, which is still a possibility given the current level of catch, would reduce this additional revenue to £3M. A particularly successful season, with no refunds, could see illex revenues as high as £9.4M.

Revenues within the Natural Resources Department have also been boosted by oil exploration companies paying out for berthing fees (£169K), purchase of water (£58K) and rent received (£109K). These increased revenues are expected to continue for the period of exploration.

Health and Education has also shown a favourable £348K surplus, partly as a result of the Medical Services Tax (MST) which is currently £413K over estimate.

Current projections indicate total revenues for the year coming in at £546K over estimate.

A number of Falklands’ directorates have budgets showing a spend lower than expected at this point in the year including Central Services which shows a favourable £192K while Health and Education also shows a favourable £10K.

Even the Public Works Department achieved a £52K under spend and Natural Resources a £161K under spend and Mineral Resources were £121K favourable. The latter is driven by a £115K saving in hydrocarbon consultancies.

Speaking of Capital Expenditure Mr Heath said capital schemes were currently behind schedule by £454K. (PN).-

 

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1 stick up your junta (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:28 am Report abuse
This is for think :-))))))
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUhKbh09qfs
2 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:51 am Report abuse
Steady as she goes for another few years MLAs until the oil starts to flow properly. Then improve our infrastructure. Stanley's sea front, cruise ship arrival area, Dockyard, Ross Rd, deep sea port and MPA Road. These would all get my vote as priorities for capital expenditure. We have to invest in projects that will continue to realise outside income after the oil has all gone in 20/ 30 years.
3 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:29 am Report abuse
Some of the money will need to be spent building up self protection against envious, avaricious, deluded and increasingly desperate neighbours. The Islands' Government can only rely on UK up to a point. A truly capable maritime arm of the FIDF is needed. Say three corvettes to operate as OPVs. I just happen to know were three such vessels can be sourced and can name a man ideally placed to take this idea forward (i.e. me). Pirates of the South Atlantic indeed.!
4 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:40 am Report abuse
A proportionate level of defence is required; I agree. Something more than the Argentines would say we need and something less than Conquerer would recommend. :)
5 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:51 am Report abuse
(3) The True colors of Cmd Mc Dod !
The Victor Bout of the South-Atlantic.
Carefu laddie, it ended quite bad for him.
www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/04/20124522433245829.html
6 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:57 am Report abuse
5 Think

Not that it has anything to do with you as an alien with no interest in our islands.
7 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:01 am Report abuse
(6) Joe Bloggs

I disagree with and dispute your point!
8 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:06 am Report abuse
@3 SOME of the whole 9M? hahahaha
9 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:07 am Report abuse
@5 Well, since you want to engage me on ground of my own choosing....
It seems to have ended badly for one of Victor's paymasters this week. The Special Court for Sierra Leone has found Charles Taylor guilty of illegally interfering in the affairs of that country (subject to appeal we look forward to welcoming him to a UK prison). This should be a warning to leading Argentinians to take care that their actions don't lead, eventually, to something that they could be held to account for in an International Court of Law.
10 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:10 am Report abuse
@9 Nothing new, in Haag you have an installment where you trial the political counterparts of the west... So what?
11 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:22 am Report abuse
7 Think

Disagree and dispute all you want. It will make no difference.
12 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:36 am Report abuse
@8 and 10. £9 M in nine months means, on the balance of probability, considerably more in the future. And what exactly, since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the expansion of NATO, is the West? You really are backward looking.
13 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:43 am Report abuse
(9) Cmd McDod

Caeteris Paribus....; I would “Think” that Mr Anthony Charles Lynton Blair should be much more closer to a “meeting” with the International Court of Law Than any “Leading Argentinean”.

Don't you “Think” ?
14 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:43 am Report abuse
@12 With 9M you can lay the foundation of your own little wall lol
Maybe your grandchildren finishes it, providing they are as lucky as you with the economics... The west is USA, EU and all of their allies in the opression of the “3rd” world. Actually, remove ”3rd as you opress your own folks aswell, and if you disagree, take after your teat nation and use those 9M to put up cameras in order to survail eachother, they are a bit cheaper than a wall...
15 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:49 am Report abuse
(11) Joe Bloggs

I disagree with and dispute that point too!
16 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:08 am Report abuse
15 Think

Who cares?

Now back to the article after the usual diversion crew chimed in.

I think sorting out the MPA road is essential. Especially if the localisation plans for MPC are going to be realised. I don't suggest it gets done yet though. Wait until the real money starts to flow.

I also have to say that I am thrilled that the MSL has been re-introduced and is doing its job.
17 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:10 am Report abuse
@12 You must be a very clever person to have a Masters Degree in Country Planning together with one in International Relations and to be so convincing in a language other than your native tongue. So, I thank you for your demonstrable support to my proposal for defensive measures.
18 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:18 am Report abuse
@17 That is proper shoulder clapping!! Although next time, I suggest changing your nickname before the actual clapping, people may think you are delirious...
19 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:27 am Report abuse
@18 I do not, repeat not, have the clap in my shoulder or any other part of my body. I am, however, delirious that I have your support.

@ 13 Is Guzz another of those covert (not clandestine) turnips you warned me about? And as for A Blair Esq, if you can get the funds together you could take him to court yourselves (G77 or whoever). I might even chip in a few quid myself.
20 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:33 am Report abuse
@19 Of course you have my support to take after your teat nation, they are going max speed trying to catch up with Spain and Greece... You're very much welcome to join the one-way traffic, we'll stay here, looking at you in awe :)
21 McClick (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:44 am Report abuse
Merely a district budget ...!
22 RobWilliams (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:45 am Report abuse
Good job!
23 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:48 am Report abuse
@22 Great job! Sources informs that they forgot to add 5 quid to the numbers (somebody spent it on coffee...), so the actual numbers are a bit higher
24 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:53 am Report abuse
(19) Cmd McDod

Guzz is as little a turnip as you are…………

We seem to agree about Mr. Blair.
A pity though... I must admit he spellbounded me during the seventies with his brilliant eloquence.
But it was just that, brilliant, empty eloquence...
Anybody can see the results…
In Britain and elswhere…

Totally different story with Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.
25 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:03 am Report abuse
21 McLick

It's all relative. For the Falklands it represents about 32% of our operating budget. That operating budget is about 10% of our cash reserves.

What percentage of the Argentine operating budget is your surplus for the year? What is your national debt running at? The Falklands has no national debt except the one we owe the UK for protecting us from your country's aggression.
26 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:08 am Report abuse
(25) Joe Bloggs

Why are you asking a Bulgarian all those questions?

Turnip McClick is on record innumerable times telling us he is NOT Argentinean.

Capisce?
27 GeoffWard2 (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:15 am Report abuse
Think #13 (sober again? ;-) Doveoverdover #19:

Many people in the UK still question Blair's role in initiating the legalised invasion of Iraq 'in order to bring Saddam to justice'.

The lack of rigour and the severe circumscription of the remit cast the Hutton Inquiry in a bad light,
and I entertain serious doubt about the cause of death of Kelly, the 'suicide' who had his computer hard-disk files erased remotely, the death weapon wiped clean of prints, and a serious lack of blood for one who was deemed to have knifed his wrist artery..... This has all the trappings of the black arts of the security services attempting to limit the damage to the Government of the day and the politicians involved.

Millions of ordinary citizens marched on the streets trying to stop their government taking the country to war.
Millions of others said 'My country, right or wrong' and had faith in the Prime Minister's statement that Iraq was ready to unleash weapons of mass destruction on the UK at 45 minutes notice.

There is an embarrassing consensus of hindsight that the British Prime Minister, through pressure on his Attorney General to change his stance, gave the UN and thereby the US the authority to enter Iraq.

The P.M. Blair has remained 'teflon-coated' throughout, and even moved subsequently to the position of Middle East Peace Envoy!
.... and became a very, very rich man.
28 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:18 am Report abuse
26 think

Well forgive me for not being familiar with all of the characters on this site. Anyway, if he is on here countering and trolling the Falklands view he is quite obviously sympathetic to the Argentine view.

You do make a valid point though. He most likely can't answer my question. Would you perhaps care to answer it? Admittedly it would be the first time you answered someone's question and the first time you kept to topic but give it a go.

I suspect you won't want to answer it.
29 Conqueror (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:20 am Report abuse
@4 Rather depends on what you call “proportionate”, does it not? Nobody would deny the right of the Islanders to provide for their own defence BUT it depends on what they can reasonably do. Available statistics indicate that one-third of the individuals on the Islands are British service personnel. Take them away and half the Islands' population will need to be in a constant state of armed readiness. A River-class patrol vessel similar to HMS Clyde costs approximatelt £5 million per year to run. You can expect any OPV (even second-hand) to cost around £2.5 million. There might well be additional costs as the vessels would certainly need to be armed. As the defence of the Falkland Islands is a matter for the United Kingdom, someone might want to ask the MoD how it feels about a BOT navy with armed vessels. There might well be costs there as I would expect the MoD and the RN to insist that crews of Falklands navy vessels received the same level of training as RN crews. Finally, there is the small matter of air defence. As an example, a Type 45 air-defence destroyer costs around £6.5 billion. After all, you wouldn't want argie air force aircraft to get too close. A Eurofighter Typhoon, with no munitions, costs around £65 million. How many would you like?

This is the trouble with comments such as yours. The tone suggests that you think me “warlike”. I, on the other hand, have a very clear understanding of what it takes to be suitably “defencelike”. Let's add it up. Leaving aside the destroyer, and assuming you don't pay your troops, you need over £70 million just for a start. Add in the cost of munitions, real and practice, and your entire budget starts to look like a spit in the ocean.

Britain, except for people like El B****** Kirchnerist, have no problem with defending you. Just remember that it comes at a cost. The most important of which could be the lives of British service personnel. So wind your neck in and quit trying to be so smug.
30 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:25 am Report abuse
@25 Argentinas trade surplus as for march 2012 is at 1B USD... Do you want me to do the maths for you? :)

Argentinas public debt is at 136 billions, or 3.238 USD per capita. Compare that to your teat nations debt of 9.8 trillions, or 155.556 USD per capita...
31 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:39 am Report abuse
29 Conquerer

Your estimates of military requirements seldomly demonstrate such level-headedness and considered measure. That is why I often judge them to be beyond the rediculous. I have nothing but respect for the armed forces as an organisation but it is made up of individuals who, individually, have to earn that respect. I was in the armed forces and I know that it is has all sorts; some good, some not so good.

I am out now but I still have lots of colleagues who are still in. Some of my closest friends are now colonels, brigadiers and there's even the odd general amongst them. I also have friends who gave it away in the last 10 years after being WO1s for many years. Some of my closest friends have seen some dreadful action. Action I was fortunate enough to only be on the edge of. I've talked firsthand with contempories of actions in 7 different countries around the world and I've spoken countless times over the years to much older veterans from both world wars.

Never have I spoken to anyone with anything like the attitude you often display on here. I think you are full of shit and a disgrace to your country.
32 ElaineB (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:45 am Report abuse
@27 A good assessment of Teflon Tony.

I never bought into his superficial speeches but millions did. He was the right man at the right time to do a lot of wrong.

If I put aside my personal dislike of him, I can see that New Labour actually achieved some much needed reforms in Parliament. But his brand of populist government did a lot of damage to our economy and we will be paying for it for generations.
33 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:47 am Report abuse
@31 You guys always use those arguments “I have a friend...”, “I know a guy...”, “My attourneys dog...”

We don't care about military as you, mainly because we are not invasive, like your teat nation, as we don't kill women and children for resources, like your teat nation
34 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:48 am Report abuse
33 guzz

Who cares what you think?
35 Ken Ridge (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:57 am Report abuse
33 Buzz

“we don't kill women and children for resources, like your teat nation”

Maybe not, though you do randomly kill your own people and discard over the ocean, steal babies etc etc.

“because we are not invasive”

Only because you can't afford to be, you have had more territorial disputes than any other SA country and would continue if you had any military power (or weren't all cowards).
36 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:01 am Report abuse
@35 I beg to differ, the military dictaturships across the Americas were paid and upheld by USA, read about “Operacion Condor”...

So, again I say, we don't kill women and childres for resources, like your teat nation :)
37 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:03 am Report abuse
(28) Joe Bloggs

1) Don't wory...... No need to ask for forgiveness for your ignorance about the respective posters in here.…..
I’m here to help you…….

2) The “Topic” in here revolves always around the same.
*** -The British squatting of the Malvinas Islands.-***
That's why you are commenting here on a nice Saturday morning…..
That’s why I am doing the same.

3) You already did answer your own ”Question de Jour” at comment (25)….:
“Who has the better “Operating Budget?”……:

Argentina has....

The Malvinas BOT represent, at best, a minus of 150,000,000 £ a year for the British taxpayer just in “Thiefence” expenditure….

Those 150,000,000£ of “Thiefense” expenditure represent TWICE your whole “Operational Budget”

And that very low amount is reached by creative accounting as, for example….:
Not accounting for the cost of salaries….
Not accounting for the cost of weapons….
Not accounting for the cost of maintenance…

In short…

Not accounting for next to nothing.
38 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:05 am Report abuse
37 think

I knew you wouldn't answer the question.
39 Calaras (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:06 am Report abuse
@33

You're “not invasive”? there are some islands a couple of hundred miles away that would disagree Im afraid.
40 GreekYoghurt (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:09 am Report abuse
Have they started planning the rail route yet?
41 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:11 am Report abuse
(38) Joe Bloggs

What was the question you asked at (25) then......

Doesn't matter really.....

The Answer to all your questions is the same ....... : 42
42 lsolde (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:14 am Report abuse
@36 Guz,
So because it happened in the past, it doesn't count?
You are just as big a liar as the rest of you malvinistas.
You despicable people killed at least 30,000 of your own citizens, many of them women, probably even some children.
You also tortured them first.
Then just over 120-130 years ago your countrymen murdered whole tribes of indigenous people, men, women & children FOR---RESOURCES.
Why do you lie?
You DO kill women & children, like your ass nation:-)))
43 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:17 am Report abuse
@39 1982 you got invaded by a facist military rule that opressed and killed it's own people.

Since 2000 only, the teat nation has been involved in killing children in Sierra Leone, Afghanistan (they still are), Iraq and Libya...
44 Usurping Pirate (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:19 am Report abuse
Guzz :
1 )We don't care about military as you,
Well no , you wouldn't, they killed your Montonero parents .
2 ) mainly because we are not invasive,
So 1982 NEVER happened ? Everyone in Argentina cheered the invasion
AND the Junta on 2nd April 1982 .Even the surviving Monotoneros , who were going to mount Op Algeciras in Gibraltar.
3 ) we don't kill women and children for resources,
A lot of enviromentalists will tell you that soja cultivation and open cast mining are doing just that
45 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:24 am Report abuse
@42, 44
As a son of a Tupamaro, I've lost a number of relatives fighting against the dictatorships imposed by YOUR ally (and the teat nation, most surely).
Don't try to teach me my own history, I know very well what happened.

Yes, 130 years ago, Argentina killed the natives, just as Uruguay did 180 years ago. Sadly enough, I must say, and it is something we should tell our children so they never forget.

You though, you did it yesterday, today and will continue tomorrow...
46 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:28 am Report abuse
43 guzz

Argentines always refer to the military junta like they were an invading force from another country. They were Argentines you deadbeats. They went home to houses in the same suburbs as the rest of you. They were your brothers, yours fathers, your sons, your neighbours, your school mates.

Stop your BS!
47 Conqueror (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:40 am Report abuse
@31 Well, I have to admit that over the last couple of days I was constipated, but I've got rid of it now. Reading your comment, it seems likely that you never made it beyond WO. Still amongst what Wellington pithily referred to as “the scum of the earth”.

On the other hand, I have served my country for over 40 years and was officially recognised as a commissioned officer.

The protection of my country and its territories has, for over 40 years, been my highest priority. Something that I would gladly fight or die for. Service in which I have been injured. Could you say the same? Let's take just one sentence. “Action I was fortunate enough to only be on the edge of.” I sought fracases and got involved even though I had no need.

It is YOU that is fullof shit and a disgrace to your country. A typical barrack-room lawyer. All mouth!

@33 Have you read about your “Conquest of the Desert”? An argie action, wasn't it? Official, considered, premeditated, wasn't it? For resources, wasn't it? Avoided killing any women and children, did you? Nah. I cannot think of one single British, official, considered, premeditated action deliberately aimed at the genocide of entire peoples.

Generally, ignore Twinky. He's a clever, semi-intelligent, argie government troll. Look out for where he “lives”. The “province” of Chubut. An area of argieland only as a result of the “Conquest of the Desert”. Twinky lives and walks on the blood-soaked earth of his cuntry's genocide.
48 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:41 am Report abuse
@46 Is that why they are all in jail now?

Operation Condor:
(Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor, Portuguese: Operação Condor), was a campaign of political repression and terror involving assassination and intelligence operations officially implemented in 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America. The program aimed to eradicate alleged socialist and communist influence and ideas and to control active or potential opposition movements against the participating governments. Due to its clandestine nature, the precise number of deaths directly attributable to Operation Condor is highly disputed. It is estimated that a minimum of 60,000 deaths can be attributed to Condor, possibly more. Condor's key members were the governments in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil. The United States provided support, with Ecuador and Peru joining later in more peripheral roles

www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKcondor.htm

Now, stop twisting history for your own purposes
49 WestisBest (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:06 pm Report abuse
Blah blah blah....
keep talking Argies, that's all you've got (pity you can't sell hot air, you'd be able to revive your shithole economy without stealing assets from foreign investors). We'll keep right on drilling for OUR oil.
:-)
50 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:07 pm Report abuse
Watched a replay of the Hitler rally (or was that a North Korean rally) this morning with my Chilean-born wife, here in Australia via the Clarin newspaper website. So sad, and so pathetic....these deluded leftist nationalists (fascistas) are dragging their people down the drain....another Venezuela in the making....well done fools! I have a number of Venezuelan friends, who migrated here thanks to Chavez's lunacy.

In contrast, the Falklands is a well-governed society as shown by these results. No surprise there. A role model for South America, I would think...but don't expect any support for such thoughts from our silly Camporistas like Guz, Think, McClick, etc...absolute fools...although it would not be surprising if at least some of them are pigging out on what is left of the Argentinian economy as their nation goes down the sink.
51 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:08 pm Report abuse
@49 Again, teat nation owed 9 TRILLION USD, Argentina owes 135 BILLIONS...

Pay your debts!!! :)
52 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:47 pm Report abuse
Congratulations Falklanders..since some of the posters here love their MATH(S) I will point out that this nice bonus is just about 1/2 of the annual PPP GDP of Uruguay or Argentina! While theirs keeps falling you keep adding and it is only going to get better as more fields are proven! Keep it up!
53 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
@52 Ssssch, go pay your debts!!!
54 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
53. I would rather tell investors they get 1/3 of whatever the front of the bond says and watch the world collapse. Shut our boarders to imports and have massive gov't funded rallies where everyone gets $20, a beer and a choripan. That's the way to do it...is it not?
55 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:07 pm Report abuse
47 Conquerer

I don't buy it. You talk like a barrack room recruit on Sunday night before lights out. I showed my best friend of over 40 years, my best man and still serving brigadier with 32 years of service, some of your more “heroic” posts and he agrees that it is not likely you are a serving officer in Her Majesty's forces. You certainly wouldn't talk at work like you do on here if by some slim chance you are what you say.

48 guzz
You're telling US not to twist history and yet you claim the Falklands are Argentine. LOL!

50 Diddles

I like your post.

51 guzz

We don't have any debts. Pay yours.
56 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:13 pm Report abuse
@54 Whatever, anything that makes you stay inside your borders and never ever pay us a visit nor interfere with us economically, socially, culturally or in secret will work for us...
57 arglands (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:17 pm Report abuse
People still living in their back yards, appauling quality of life but happy to live in their own fishbowl getting drunk on their 2 day week enders, predjudiced of foreigners that go to work there, shall I go on...
Anyone who will get some money from the so called oil boom will be the rich who will invest their money overseas (like france for example) and the rest will still eat half rotten fruit and out of date products.
Leave them be, they are trying so hard to be British...they are happy in their own reality
58 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
36. Except the USA investments are as much as a 1/3 of Arg's gdp. Do you want us to pull out the car factories and stop shipping you medication? Fine with me, we can move the factories to Brazil or Uruguay and let RGS die because they don't have the smarts or innovation to make drugs or medical devices or ____ fill it in.
How do we start this process?
Gosh you are dumb....
59 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:26 pm Report abuse
@58 I AM from Uruguay, and the chinese beat you to it, they are already building car fasctories here...
So YES!!! Please go home!!! Don't send us medications (they come with diseases), actually drug yourselves...
Don't think about how to start it, just do it and we'll work it out during the process... Like Exxon in Venzuela, you know :)
60 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
59. In less than 3 yrs Uruguay will be a client state of the USA like Costa Rica. As I mentioned before, in the last couple weeks Uruguay has asked to have an FTA with us ( Brazil too). It's a good thing you speak English already.
61 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
@60 Please link me something on it, I'd love to see that part...
62 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:34 pm Report abuse
@19 Doveoverdover (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:27 am

Hear bloody hear. I too would pay to see Tony Bliar hung up by his knackers. Hang his wife up with him by whatever means are available.

I still think he topped John Smith.
63 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
www.silobreaker.com/usuruguay-free-trade-accord-among-priorities-of-new-ambassador-in-montevideo-5_2265589980862611562

But what the article doesn't say is that we were approached by Uruguay not the other way around. Brazil too bye bye Mercosur
64 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:47 pm Report abuse
@63 Don't take me for a fool.... That article states that YOUR priority is to establish an FTA with Uruguay!! Show me an article that states what you are blatantly lying about, that Uruguay and Brazil are eager to get an FTA with USA
65 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
Dear Joe Bloggs, thanks mate, cheers.

Yes, Argentina is a sad joke thanks to the clowns governing it...roll on 1930's, 1940's, 1950's, 1970's, 1982, 1989, 2001-12, etc.

In contrast,Chile, thanks to its general good governance over the last 22 years has done a lot to give a better image of South America and the potential it can offer. I know student protests have broken out there in the last year, as expectations rise, but their government is trying to deal with same in a mature manner as noted in Mercopress.

Other countries in South and Central America should look at Chile as a role model, certainly as to general good governance and steer clear of the Argentina, Bolivian and Venezuelan examples.

Maturity, and commonsense, a couple words that seem to be lacking amongst Camporista posters here.....they may feel they are serving their political cause well, but as for the good of their country...god help the many decent people that live there.
66 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
64. Sorry I can't but I can tell you the meetings happened in Cartagena.

It won't be long before Uruguay and Brazil pull out of Mercosur so they can sign a bi-lateral agreement with the USA. Uruguay will be 1st and soon...

it's a small country don't you know what your gov't is doing?
67 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:04 pm Report abuse
@65 Piñera is on his way out, Bachelet will destroy him on the upcoming elections, students are rioting demanding free education and soon you can only turn to your Israel of America to do your dirty business, your very own narcotics lab of Colombia :)
68 McClick (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
| 25 |

like it or not ...Argentina is a middle scale country..but...comparing of these frigid islands is just a district of its..not one of states of it.Again it is one of the UK bases neither nation,nor country even not colony.

Don't compare the horse with dog.

So what Argentina has had budget surplus going on..

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| 26 |

keep quiet...sit and listen....don't chip in....keep decent...!
or...go watch your YouTube videos...don't neglect write link if you find any pleased articles here.....

by the way ..Dilma Rousseff is a Bulgarian origin..is there any problem ?

We think a Serbian origin man to locate a Argentina head after CFK come and prevent if you have power. ..but not interested you becouse you are not Argentine ..pardon you senior internet Argentine who uses
some English side names sometimes...

first...............................................................................grow up ...!
69 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
@66 You don't have a single clue what you are ranting about, Uruguay and Brazil are founding members of the Mercosur, the headquarters are in Montevideo for gods sake!!

You are full of crap, you can't proove ANYTHING you say, it's all happening inside your head :) :) :)
70 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
70. One of us will be right one of us will be wrong let's revisit it in a year and see. Why don't you go back and read some of my predictions you'll see most of them have already come to pass.
BTW did they turn the gas back on so the factories can work again?
71 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
Guz, keep posting....you silly fool....who are you trying to convince, the silly fools that attended CFK's latest rally. Any open-minded person who follows developments in South America looks at Argentina's current governance with bewilderment. Self-destruction on a grand scale.

CFK is styling herself as a new Evita....and a third-rate one at that. I look forward to seeing the musical and the eventual movie....although I think the Edith Piaf musical I saw in late 2009 in Buenos Aires was more to my liking.

Yes, Chilean many students, encouraged by some small local Communist (probably admirers of CFK) elements, are demonstrating....but some sensible reform is being put in place....as to politics, the Concertatcion (Centre and centre left) and the right wing parties (UDI and Renovacion Nacional) have both pursued a similar economic model. If there is a danger in Chile at all, or any other recent reasonably governed South American country, like Peru, Colombia or Brazil, it is if the leftist elements try to copy the Argentinian role model in some way in the future....in Chile's case, I can't see that happening, because Chileans have seen the benefits of open trade. They are major exporters to the world and are more deserving of G20 place then Argentina....it is only because they dont want to a major diplomatic incident with Argentina, that they dont talk more strongly about replacing that nation at G20. Countries like Australia and New Zealand would welcome them with open arms as their government and business people operate in a professional manner and respect the concept of a contract. For instance, our national airline, the respected Qantas (never crashed) has given up on Argentina and now flies to Santiago instead.
72 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
@70
Here, a link showing you Uruguay's president Pepe Mujica talking in the latest Mercosur reunion. Not only does he affirm that the most important thing is to stick together as a continent, but he also pushes for the other nations to accept Venezuela as a permanent member of the Mercosur.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz6qgrUssw8

You don't have a clue what you are saying, but it's ok, you are not alone... Seems lying to upkeep a right-wing agenda is something you learn at the cradle...

@71
Lots of mayby's and perhaps in your theories... Nothing substantial other than personal feelings and convictions
73 Brit Bob (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
Hat's off to the FIG. It just shows what you can do when you encourage investment and 'play by the rules' and 'don't steal companies' and 'stick to agreements' (including treaties).
74 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:03 pm Report abuse
72. Do you think everything that politicians say in public is what is really going on behind the scenes? What a rube, I feel sorry for you.
75 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
@74
So this info about Uruguay wanting a FTA with USA is a document that is in your possession? Because no uruguayan never heard of it (including the president) and there is nothing on it on the internet.
President Mujica is a Tupamaro guerrilla member, sat 13 years in prison where he was tortured by the militaries, which of 2 years was down in a well. He is the leader of the MPP, the revolutionary branch of the Frente Amplio, the branch that is furtherest to the left. Why on earth would he leave Mercosur and join USA, a sinking ship??? You are very, very delusional :)
76 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
Guz, keep waffling, you good old-fashioned leftist idealogue. How is Lenin doing? You must live in some time warp!

Any serious foreign investor in South America knows from the formguide (i.e The Economist, etc) and practical experience what are the well or reasonably governed countries, and what are the more hopeless cases. Chile has rated well as a foreign investment location for the last 20 plus years....has that been the case with Argentina, Venezuela, Bolivia,Ecuador, Uruguay etc? I don't think so!!!....Uruguay, which I have visited too, is currently led by another leftist popularist, who has been criticised recently by a former Uruguayan president for his silly subservience to Argentina...Uruguay has the prospect of a free trade agreement with USA and good relations with EU and Britain...while I understand the diplomatic issues, Uruguay needs to play a smart game and put its economic interests first by not going down the Argentinian road of isolationism.
77 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
@76 Criticised by Sanguinetti must be the greatest honor a man alive can get HAHAHAHAHA
78 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
76. As I said one of us is right one of us is wrong let's see in a year. The posts will still be here to reference.
It does seems a bit strange that the US Senate and State is negotiating the agreement without the consent of your Prez...seems like they would be wasting a lot of time if they didn't think it would go anywhere....but what do I know I am just a lonely blogger
79 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
@78 WHAT AGREEMENT??? LOL
The agreement only exists in your head!!! Show me a link otherwise.
80 ElaineB (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
They all look forward to the Mercosur summits and attend if they are full members or not. Chile had the right idea being an associate member. The next summit is in June in Mendoza, right?

Venezuela have been asking to be full members for years but Paraguay blocked it.
81 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
@77 God help Uruguay if fools like you have a handle on power. You are a joker, even if you don't realise it. It's that old thinking that has held South America back for so long. Chile has broken that trend, looking outwards, to trade with the world...they have proven that old psychology of poor us, poor South America, doesn't work....retreating behind high tarriff barriers will get you no where.....is that your economic solution.

I reckon many Uruguayans would love the wages they enjoy in Chile and the Falklands or many western countries for that matter, like Australia, where around 10,000 Uruguayans live.
82 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
@81
Chile is with us, a fact you will realize on their next elections.
We don't need the wages you have in the western countries, as we don't base our happiness on material ownership, as you do (the one that has most when he dies, wins) :) Shovel it, but leave us alone
83 McClick (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:43 pm Report abuse
| 82 |

You are from Uruguay ?

Do you know the Mercopress address ?( I didn't find it )
84 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
83. Maybe you have never seen South Americans coming back from the USA with trunks full of clothes, TVs computers iphones etc etc etc. I'm pretty sure those umpteen suitcases are filled with material goods.

In my experience SA are the most envious of creatures. They hate someone that has better things that they do...that is why all the rich people live behind 12 foot walls with private guards on every corner.
85 Simon68 (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:49 pm Report abuse
Señor Guzz:

Could you please tell me what a “teat nation” is?

I've never heard that particular expressionbefore and it really seems to describe my country perfectly.
86 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:49 pm Report abuse
@83
You mean physical address? No, but if they are given addresses by popularity, they should have a postbox in Tacuarembo....
87 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
Bye Bye Guz, keep on preaching to the converted....you should try turning up to the next CFK rally.....you'll beside yourself......fool.

As to Chile, there may well be a change of government, but as already stated, both side of politics there are pursuing a similar free trade economic model....Chileans (with the exception of a radical ratbag) is certainly not looking at Argentina or Uruguay as arole model....most Chileans have no interest in another Allende or Pinochet running the show....they have moved on...something you need to do, but sadly that looks not likely for a long time, if ever. For Uruguay, let's hope you have no influence on politics there, because your views belong with the dinosaurs.
88 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:07 pm Report abuse
@85 Try harder, we don't call eachother “Señor”, fool...

@87 What are my views? I have said naught about my views, I have:

-Stated 9M is craploads of money (especially adding the 5 quids they spent on coffee)
-Stated tribunale in Haag is made to trial western opposition
-Showed you western debt are far bigger than any SA country (dunno about Colombia)
-Prooved the yanqui lies every time he touches his keyboard
-Prooved to you that Operation Condor (and the dictatorships) were doings of the USA
-Stated that Piñera ('s party) will loose next elections

None of it are my personal views, just facts...
Now, if they belong to the dinosaurs, that's not for me to decide...
89 McClick (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:08 pm Report abuse
| 84 |

Probably these goods are cheaper in US by their taxing rates.?

Latin America is second behind Africa in poverty classification.

as well as in US....go and see in California..there are few utmost riches
against mass poverty ..no middle class....at the same freeway you can see the Ferraris( even if cheaper ones) ,Porsches with 20 years used rattletrap (cars)....
90 slattzzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
@43. Google gulf war 1 and check out coalition forces, guess what you'll find Yes Argentina
91 ElaineB (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:29 pm Report abuse
@82 You do not speak for the majority. You certainly do not speak for Chileans.
92 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:30 pm Report abuse
@91 I trust the chileans will speak for themselves ;)
93 Simon68 (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
88 Guzz (#)
Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:07 pm

I still want to know what a “teat nation” is.

BTW you are extremely rude, I certainly did not insult you in any way so why call me a “fool”.

What do you call yourself? “Tovarich” perhaps?
94 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
@93 Don't treat me as a fool, and I wont tgreat you as one...

You are implying you are from Argentina, well, let me respond the question accordingly...
Pais teta es el que da vida a todo chanta como vo', vibaum
95 Simon68 (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
94 Guzz (#)
Apr 28th, 2012 - 04:53 pm

Muchas gracias por su repuesta tan gentil.
96 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
@95 Eras nomá... Tonce perdon por vibaum, vendepatria...
97 Usurping Pirate (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:17 pm Report abuse
Guzz: here we go with blame transference again .The USA imposed military dictatorship omn all of SA ?
Were you around in the last days of Isabel peron in 76?
The Argentine people practically begged the military to take over because of the utter chaos going on.
You claim you are Uruguyan.Well you , Brazil and Chile have more or less sorted yourselves out and most importantly , put the past behind you. Nestor & KFC didn't because they used the 70's and the falklands as a smokescreen for all the cagadas they have done since 2003.
98 Diddles (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:17 pm Report abuse
Guzz, you are backward looking and anti-western in your views, driven by ignorance and envy and your left-wing idealogy.

Many Western nations have a good mix of free enterprise and government services.....look at Australia, NZ, Canada, Britain, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, France, Holland, Belguim, the Scandinavian countries, etc (USA is less so, but they carry a huge military burden, much to the benefit of the rest of the world/yes, they have made mistakes in Latin America in the past, but they have moved on and today are trying to pursue good relations there where possible as can be seen in Chile, Peru and Colombia and Brazil). South American countries have many good examples to follow, including Chile....Uruguay would be very silly to copy Argentina's trade policies for example....they were hurt badly by them recently...so much for soladarity.

The key for South Americans is to understand that good living standards come with good governance and societies based around generally good values, including good productive attitudes towards work.

It is no surprise that Chileans are doing well because their attitudes to work are very good and the people generally have good values, influence no doubt by the fact that it is still quite a religious country. Chileans like to see themselves as the British of South America in terms of their work attitudes and professionalism.

Anyway, viva the Falklands and hope to see this sad Argentinian story end soon...it's so silly and promises only deliver more poverty there.
99 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
@98 Don't compare yourselves with the Scandinavian countries, they are where they are because of 70 years of socialism. I've spent many years in Scandinavia, and they are not at all like you, arrogant, invasive and in need of control.
You know nothing about good societies, instead of telling us what to do, why don't you copy the scandinavian countries?
Uruguay is doing fine, thank you, much better than UK, as it prooves.
Only thing you know is how to live destroying the environment, using stolen resources. Leave us alone
100 yankeeboy (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
99. Who's bothering Uruguay? Maybe Argentina but certainly not any civilized country.

I am getting the impression you are mad as a hatter....or maybe schizophrenic. Oh wait are your medications caught in customs? That makes sense.....
101 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
@100 Argentina is a brother nation that only us fellow SA countries are allowed to attack verbally. When you people of no morals, invasive torturers, abductors of children, murderers of happiness and life come and point fingers, we will stand united. We HAVE to stand united, that's what history taught us, as last time you came, we tried to fight you off separatedly, and see what happened...
102 Max (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
& 99

The Scotlands seems like a Scandinavian coountry ( free education...etc)
not along with other England ,Wales,N.Ireland..........
103 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
@102 Agree, Scotland is fair, Ireland aswell actually... Good people in Ireland... and I've never met a bad scot, they are a bit harsh on the tone at times, but not at all bad people
104 ElaineB (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
@101 Wrong. We are free to express our opinions here on any country and will continue to do so. Maybe you are just a bit too precious for open debate.
105 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
@104 You say what you want, unlike you, we don't torture you for having a different opinion...
106 ElaineB (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 05:57 pm Report abuse
@105 Don't worry, old boy, no one here is going to torture you. It is just a discussion board.
107 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:00 pm Report abuse
@106 I dont worry, our time was yesterday, today it's the muslims... thank god the chinese took power...
108 Think (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
(98) Diddles

As my fellow American says at his comment (99)......:

“Don't compare yourselves with the Scandinavian countries”

You Anglo Saxon Aussie convict, dastardly descendant of early Viking Sex Tourism.............

(Just joking, I luuuuv Ausies, specially DBC Pierre.....:-)
109 Max (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:13 pm Report abuse
Here are the rules of the house to avoid of them :

1) Glibness and superficial charm...

2) Lack of empathy...

3) Consistent decisions in your self interest,even where it is ethically questionable...

4) Chronic,sometimes transparent lies even with regard to minor things....

5) Lack of remorse....

6) Failure to take responsibility for your actions ,and instead blaming others.....

7) Shallow emotions....

8) Ignoring responsibilities...

9) Persistent focus on gratifying their own needs at the expense of others......

10) Conning and manipulative behaviours....
110 cLOHO (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
108 - You are a result of many generations of marrying your sister. Can swim for 300m under water, amazing thing gills
111 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
“Many generations of marrying your sister”.... That's so wrong in so many levels... First of all, marrying someone results in... people getting married. Secondly, why marry someone for many generations??? Is that marrying once avery 20-30 years? And lastly, if you are implying inbreed... Take a bloody look at the mirror, generations of meeting with islanders have bloody not helped your appearance...

If you are to offend, do it properly...
112 Max (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
& 108

Your one of the emails using in Mercopress login accounts is

Lacertian@aol.com
113 briton (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
Heaven forbid that I may spill tomato ketchup on the barbeque,

But one suspects there will be much more of the red stuff, spread, before this barbeque can be eaten in peace,
For we fear the greedy spoil sports fresh from the days rallies with their glorious empress,
Who now all think that CFK is now unbeatable, will be bringing the onions to this feast,
And crying in the red stuff,
History shows, the bigger the head gets, the bolder the body becomes,
And greater the violence will be.

Justa barbeque friend .

.
114 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
@113
Bla, bla, bla.... Got an argentinian bull for you, little brit cuckold
115 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
I assume everybody on here must be happy that the islands are prospering so nicely. As a falkland Islander I am very proud of the way the economy is maturing and growing. The Argentines must be pleased also. After all, if they owned the place it'd be in a right state just like their own country so I am guessing that deep down inside they are pleased for us.

Is that right Malvinistas?
116 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:58 pm Report abuse
I can't speak for the Arg. but as an uruguayan, I'm glad you are doing good. My issues are with the arrogance of the UK, not with the Malvinas...
117 briton (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
114 Guzz
wuz up boy, dont ya like burgas then.

116 Guzz
well well well, you agree with CFK stealing what is not hers,
nice to know where you stand,
118 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
@117 I do, boy!!
Love'em, as a thank, I'll bring som argentinian meat, you'll wife will love it.
Great times, we'll have :)
119 briton (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
summers on its way.
BBQs galore
enjoy
lol.
120 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
@119 On that, I agree, although winter is coming, there is always place for a good bbq...
So, before the storm, cheers
...lol...
121 briton (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
cheers.
122 Chicureo (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
#47 Conqueror
“I have served my country for over 40 years and was officially recognised as a commissioned officer.”

Sounds strange to someone that's served. Were you given a commission as an officer or not? By the way, I'm not being snobbish about NCO's whom many I admire and count as friends.
123 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:40 pm Report abuse
@122 you served in Chile? when did you serve in Chile? :)
124 Max (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:19 pm Report abuse
Chile is an isolated place from the world.!
125 LEPRecon (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
@47 Conquerer.

40 years as a Commissioned Officer? In what, the Salvation Army?

I smell a Walter Mitty. In fact it was on another thread on this website that you said you had never served due to your age and infirmity (a bad back I believe you said). You, the grief whore that you are, cried about how, in 1982, you couldn't serve and had to 'watch' our brave boys being killed, not realising that there was no satellite TV back then to report on the action live.

You are a troll and a liar. No Officer has such distain for non-commissioned ranks. No Officer in their right mind would upset a Warrant Officer. And to clinch it all, the majority of Officers have to retire at 55yrs of age, so did you join the Army at 15? If you did, back the old days, you certainly wouldn't have been commissioned.

Trying to lie to big yourself up is despicable, and an insult to all those who have served. Not only that you constantly harp on about killing people, which no real soldier, serving or retired would EVER do, and this fact insults the memory of those who died to protect the people of the UK, Commonwealth and the Falklands.

You should dwell on the core standards and values of the British Army, which those of us currently serve and have served in the past live by:

Respect for Others - even your enemies
Courage - both physical and moral
Integrity
Selfless Commitment
Loyalty
Discipline

If you truly want to emulate those that serve try living by these values and standards first.

@55 Joe Bloggs, Conquerer is a Walt of the worst kind, but he's also a bit dim 'cos he can't keep his lies straight.
126 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
125 LEPRecon

Cheers. I've never met anyone who has served and speaks like that. You come across a few early on but it doesn't last long.
127 Guzz (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
A military man of honor... and I thought I had seen it all...
128 LEPRecon (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:10 pm Report abuse
@126 - Joe Bloggs.

As an ex-soldier myself it really grips my s@*t when some troll disparages the reputation of the Armed Forces by talking such utter bollocks. Conquerer is like Galteri was, willing to fight to the last drop of someone else's blood, as long as they don't have to get their own hands dirty.

Conquerer talks like killing people is exciting and something to be proud of, but he has never had to look down the sight on his rifle at an approaching man and make a decision: is he an innocent civilian, or is he a suicide bomber? If you make the wrong choice someone dies, someone's father, son, brother or husband or God forbid some of your muckers. Killing is not something that is done lightly, and every soldier is responsible for his own actions and has to answer for them to higher authority. Conquerer doesn't understand it's not like the movies you don't automatically know who the bad guys are and what their intentions are.

However, back on thread, I hope the Falklands continues with it prosperous future. No doubt when the black gold starts flowing the islands may get some prospectors trying to settle down there, I hope their immigration standards are high. ;-)
129 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:27 pm Report abuse
128 LEPRecon

Yep. You know a guy has real problems when he's trying to be on your side but you can't stomach it. I've tried to be patient with him for a while but he just got on my nerves today.

Everything is looking good on the economy front. I can't see our neighbours over the water achieving anything. They can try but at the end of the day they are impotent and they know it. That's why they get so rabid on here. Trolling is all they really have.
130 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:27 am Report abuse
#123 Too much Pisco to remember, but I think it was on water. I still have a slight hangover ... or was that mid-shipman sea sickness?
Now it's starting to come back... @$%#! cold showers at the academy every $%##@ morning.
131 PirateLove (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:42 am Report abuse
Lovely Jubbly!!!!
132 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:02 am Report abuse
UPDATED
Argentina's 'plans for farewell intercourse law so widows can have sex with DEAD husbands' branded a 'complete nonsense'
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 28 April 2012

Alleged proposals to allow Argentine widows to legally have sex with their dead husbands for up to six months after their death have been branded a 'complete nonsense'.
The controversial new 'farewell intercourse' law was claimed, in Argentine media, to be part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Peronist-dominated parliament.
Controversial: The 'farewell intercourse' law is 'a complete nonsense', and was confirmed after re-interviewing sources

Sources inside the Argentinian Embassy in London have said the claims were 'completely false', and 'could never imagine it happening'.
The source said the proposal, if it even existed, had not reached the congress- although it was also admitted it could be the work of an extremist politician. Although not officially rebutted, the claims that someone inside Argentina could introduce such a law provoked widespread skepticism.
133 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:30 am Report abuse
@130 Is that what they call selective memory? Because other issues around the same timeline, you seem to remember clearly... You like football? Maybe you served in the national stadium? Any memories of that?
134 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:37 am Report abuse
132 Chicureo

Let me guess. The widows would've been flown to their dead husbands on Tupolev aircraft and the scheme was to be operated by the wives of all the 1000s of Chinese oil workers who are coming over to take control of YPF.

Why don't you go and read a site that you are actually interested in? Buy a Condorito comic book or something.
135 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:43 am Report abuse
@134
I agree with you, he is just a troll with far too much time on his hands...
He has this ability to post stuff that contributes nothing whatsoever to the conversation, and although I disagree with you guys on a number of issues, I still respect the fact that we can hold a close to normal conversation...
136 Joe Bloggs (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:59 am Report abuse
Amen Guzz
137 TipsyThink (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:24 am Report abuse
@ 128

Conqueror well knows you in person.!
138 LEPRecon (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 09:20 am Report abuse
@137 - TipsyThink - Please clarify, your comment is quite vague.

As for Conquerer he'll do one of two things: not post on this story again, now that he's been rumbled or spew verbal abuse at me to try and deflect people away from the fact that he is a Walt who has never served a day in his life.

However, he's a bully, and like all bullies they think that if they spew enough venom that they'll intimidate people. This won't work with me,I mean all he can do is swear, and I think he knows it, but it will be interesting to see which avenue he'll take.

Back on topic, good news for the Falklands. Just wait until the revenue from all that black gold comes in. :o)
139 zethe (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 10:36 am Report abuse
I've always noticed that the people who try there hardest to brag about there “military” service are often chatting out of there rear end.

Conquerer has always been a troll. I'm pretty certain he's the “Fillipo” person who is a British person pretending to be an Argentinian.

Any ex squaddie who's seen any action would tell you that the last thing they want to see is more fighting where there friends might end up shot.
140 ManRod (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 10:50 am Report abuse
congrats Falklanders, enjoy the boom...
141 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 10:52 am Report abuse
Actually, I have a confession. It has been revealed that I'm actually suffering from a severe mental disorder and my disturbing posts cause some individuals to be unable to stomach their cornflakes in the morning. For that reason, a petition to Merco Press is suggested to have me banned. I'm truly sorry Joe Bloggs, I suggest you try some dry toast and plain yogurt until you feel better.
142 toooldtodieyoung (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:34 am Report abuse
141 Chicureo

What's wrong with Eggs, bacon, baked beans and mushroom's? Surely one person's opinion counts just as much as anothers on this site? Or are we going down the “Animal Farm” route ( I'm talking about the BOOK by George Orwell, not the FILM!! ) You know:- we are all born equal, but some are more equal than others.

As they said in Pulp Fiction “If you don't want scary answers, then don't ask scary questions” or is that PC crap rearing it's ugly head here as well? Personally I can't see anything wrong with anything you've posted, and I would think that there are a number of other posters ahead of you in the “needing to be banned” queue. You know what Tommy “The nightmare” Smith says :- “Life can be divided into two types of people, those that like me, and those that can go to hell!”

Peace!! and nuff Respec
143 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:59 am Report abuse
#142 Good God! A decent English breakfast! You forgot the black pudding and grilled tomatoes. I just can't get that anywhere here, except when I'm cooking on my own. (My wife is vigilant about a healthy diet of fruit, yogurt and granola...)

Bravo and thanks on your comments. I honestly think Joe Bloggs is not a resident of the Falklands as he claims. I'm pro-FI and Anti-CFK, why would he want me banned?
144 WestisBest (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:01 pm Report abuse
@51

You're the one's who've defaulted, you pay your debts if you can....maybe you should try selling back to overseas investors the assets you expropriated from them in recent times, that'll work....
145 toooldtodieyoung (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
143 Chicureo

Maybe Joe Bloggs is just Truth-telling-troll in a different guise... who knows, never understood that need to go and get a second logon. I mean, this is the internet, no one REALLY knows any one, so Why would you want to hide still further......... I think some insercurities are coming out here.

Ever listen to Chris Evans ( Radio 2 ) Breakfast show?

The Offical “Full English” as voted by his listeners is made up of:- Fried Eggs, Bacon, sausage, Black pudding ( YUCH!! ), Grilled ( or canned ) Tomatos, fried bread and a BIG cup of tea ( not coffee ). Canned whole tomato's not Baked beans and a painful death awaits anyone foolish enough to include hash browns with it. They are definately NOT part of of a full english breakfast. Speaking of which...........
146 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
#144 Careful with this Guzz character as he seems to pretend to be an Uruguayan, but recent evidence seems to point at him as being sadly very mentally unstable and something else. Also, unfortunately he's easily hurt when someone disagrees with him, please try to say nice things when you address his incomprehensible rants. (Also, try not using big words as he has difficulty understanding.) Thanks,
147 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:44 pm Report abuse
@146 One thing life has taught me is that nothing hurts as much as the truth... You ARE a waste product of the Pinochet regime, aren't you?
148 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
Pinochet was great for Chile too bad Argentina got stuck with such a lousy regime. I think it is time for another though...things are falling apart fast and CFK is too stupid to know how to fix it.
149 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:14 pm Report abuse
#148 Yankeeboy Agreed. Careful the wounded very mentally unstable wounded Marxist rat is growling in his corner. He may have rabies as he seems to be foaming at the mouth. Be cautious, keep your distance and for God sakes, don't use big words as it drives his little rodent mind into a frenzy. He might bite.
150 arglands (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
Chile is a great place, why do you think the Falkland guys are going there to cheat on their Benny wives lol
151 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:21 pm Report abuse
#150 What Joe Bloggs (Resident of Port Stanley) does in his private life is his own business. Chilean women can be very attractive, assuming that Joe prefers women... In any case it's his private life and I would never consider outing Joe for his sexual preferences which are rightfully private. Therefore I would ask that alll of us on the board be respectful of JOE BLOGGS in this baseless allegations of what #150 refers to.
152 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
This site does not need amateur mods. There are rules and anyone can report a post that breaks the rules of the board. Other than that, I may not agree with the views of all of the posters but I defend their right to express them etc.

There are some real loons on here that probably spend a lot of time on looneybonkersconspiracytheory.com or wish to display their huge inferiority complex to the other contributors. There are also some trolls just passing a few moments when they are not pulling the legs off insects or tending to their shrine to CFKC. But there are also some very interesting contributors and even some much needed humour.

If you don't like a poster, don't read their posts.
153 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
Thank you Elaine, I'm told you are a cougar and I only respectfully wish I was the young man I was in the 80's, instead of the run down wreck today. I sincerely enjoy your posts.
154 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
Pinochet was good for Chile? That's a horrible thing to say.... I'm not going down that path, as that would be far too off-topic. But I sincerely hope the rest of Mercopress readers don't support that statement, or I might just have ended up in a site for promotors of torture, murder and abduction of women and children...
I might have generalised before, but I never expected to be so right... Still hope I am not...
155 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
@153 Ah, you will be told a lot of things about me and some of them might even be true. : )
156 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
To quote Elane: ”There are some real loons on here that probably spend a lot of time on looneybonkersconspiracytheory.com or wish to display their huge inferiority complex to the other contributors... pulling the legs off insects or tending to their shrine to CFKC Sort of fits this wounded, very mentally unstable, Marxist rat Guzz character growling in his corner right now.
157 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:57 pm Report abuse
@156 You don't affect me, we might have lost the rebellion against you lot, but we beat you morally, a fact that is shown all over Latin America today. A llorar al cuartito.
158 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:57 pm Report abuse
Pinochet was a good friend to Thatcher, the USA and got Chile on a long term path to property...yep good in my book. You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
I am guessing that is why Ks dismantled the RG military so there couldn't be a coup threat from them...
159 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
@158
-He took the power by a military coup responsible for elected president Allendes death.
-He is the main responsible for the mass executions on the national stadíum, a place where singer Victor Jara lost his hand for playing and singing against the coup and in favour of life.
-He is the responsible of 3.000 deaths and 1.000 missing, not mentioning those who can't be prooved to his name.
-People were allowed to vote according to himself. The options were, translated quote: “YES, for me to stay, and NO, for me not to leave”
-He was main responsible for crimes against human rights.

Needless to say USA backed him

You are a fascist
160 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
#158 Last post here for the day: You are in touch with reality. Watch out for rabies from those with foaming mouths.
161 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:18 pm Report abuse
@160
Hahaha Chicureo!!
I really sniffed you out, didn't I? :) :) :)
You little remnant of times gone. Only difference between you and atomic waste is that you aren't recyclable :) :) :)
Never again, you hear me!! NEVER
162 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:21 pm Report abuse
Guzzy, Why don't you name the good things he did too?

President Pinochet and his civilian advisers, after an elaborate and lengthy process of deliberation and decision making in 1973–1975, in which various alternative courses of action were considered, put in place the radically new set of market-oriented structures and policies that have been and remain the foundations of Chile’s subsequent three decades of economic and social development.

As I said you need to break some eggs to make an omelet.

Here is a better history of Chile than the Prog disinformation you adhere to:
www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/5882
163 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
@162
What does it matter what he did good for the sake of economics???
He was a MURDERER and a TORTURER
You don't accept such because of the fact that he was bringing wealth to (a few people in) the country!!!
How can you defend that???
Oh, wait, of course you defend it, you are a yanqui...
164 Think (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
(151) Chicureeo

Your “SSS” ways (S(arcastical) S(urviving) S(trategy)) remind me a lot of a good acquaintance of mine from Saló, (Italy).

Self –made, BLC (B(ajo) L(a) C(hancleta)) man……

Married to a relentless ”FPMR terrorist”(F(ennel) – P(arsnip) – M(angelwurzel) – R(utabaga))

Two tweenaged, high maintenance, daughters driving him to economic ruin and total madness.

Even his dogs are bitches (and lesbian :-)

Rings a bell?
165 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:32 pm Report abuse
163. I do defend it! I have no problem permanently eliminating communists/socialists/fascists to save millions of people from a godless state run ideology.
I am only regret that since Carter the USA has been too wishy washy to keep doing it around the world. I am all for CIA run dictators installed where we need them as long as they aren't in the USA why would I care?
166 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
Well, I will make an exception for you. It's gorgeous today and I'm going to go outdoors. (I've been quite ill for some time and my health is fragile.)
I think I know whom you refer to, but our lives are quite different. “Two teenaged, high maintenance, daughters driving him to economic ruin and total madness. ” does describe my personal situation, but my younger son has balanced my life with peace along with my dogs. ( I have six, all males. My two bitches recently died of old age. Broke my heart.)
What is this about your reference to root vegetables? I love cooking and love them all, but perhaps not the human kind.
Until I'm banned, I remain your respectful adversary.
167 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
You see, islanders? These was the sort of people that invaded you 1982.
These sad excuses of human beings and their likes are the ones you should counter. They have no respect for human life, only thinking about profit.

They would sell their mothers cheap, should they find a buyer.

As you can see, we are quite occupied within our own borders, and hadnt it been for the oil and the UK, there is noone wanting you any harm.
We don't vote for opression, we fight it, with gun in hand if need be
168 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:42 pm Report abuse
167. and you they remain British...I wonder why?

BTW did a little search on Pinochet's funeral it looked well attended and I doubt they gave them $20, beer and choripan to be there.
169 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:43 pm Report abuse
The Pinochet era is not black or white and whilst it is much easier to take an extreme, uncompromising position, it really is not that simple.

If you visit Chile you very quickly understand that the country is polarised politically and split fairly evenly 50/50 over that period in history. I have interviewed many people and listened to their personal stories and accounts for that period,. In one day I visited the home where Pinochet was held under house arrest and Allende's tomb, where I listen to people close to both speak about them as the humans they knew.

Whilst I cannot see Chile ever returning to military rule, under Pinochet the economy certainly started on the road to make Chile the most stable in SoAm and will make it the first developed country there. And, remember, it was pressure from the people, as their standard of living improved, to return to democracy that led Pinochet to hold elections that had him removed from power.

It would be very simple to hold up Allende as a socialist hero fighting the big bad capitalist enemy but his government model was flawed and unworkable with disasterous consequences for the ordinary working Chilean. Likewise, Pinochet's regime was oppressive, dangerous and lethal to many ordinary Chileans. Both leaders utterly believed they were acting in the best interests of their people.

What happened under the military governments in South America was horrific. But you can argue that left-wing communist governments are equally lethal for anyone daring to challenge or question the government.

Not unconnected, on my last visit to Argentina there was a ground-swell of opinion that they were better off under military rule. I can't see it happening but it shows that people are not at all happy with the current situation there.
170 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
@168 If I ever met you in real life I would give you a big hug and tell you it's all going to be ok...
You know why?
Because I'm better than you.
Because in my godless society, there is a place for God and for you aswell.
You have no morals, you have no dignity, and best of all, you'll soon have no power...
171 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
170. I asked you before please give me a road map on how the USA will lose power and “be gone in 5 years” I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT!

Unless you are cleaning my pool and dare to look up while I'm out there we will never meet. I run in totally different circles.
172 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
Elaine: An excellent analysis. I'm sincerely impressed. Well done.

I was a teenager living during the UP and life was untenable. The truck drivers, the taxi drivers, the farm workers and especially the women waiting in line outside supermarkets with ration books were all fed up. My father used to bring back from business trips abroad, toilet paper compressed in his luggage because of the shortages here. You may find that humorous, but try living without toilet paper for two weeks and using newspaper instead. You might wish for a military overthrow as well.
173 Think (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
(166) Chicureo

My most sincere wishes of good health to you, weon.
174 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
@169 Elaine
There is one major difference, Allende was ELECTED and he did NOT KILL CHILEANS, Pinochet was an USURPER who KILLED CHILEANS.
Do you note the slight difference?

@171 The fact that you run in circles, I won't discuss with you. And USA will loose power by letting lunatics like you represent their nation...
175 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:06 pm Report abuse
174. I don't represent the USA. I just love my country and know that for as long as I am alive it will be the most powerful country on the planet and I would not want to live anywhere else in the world.

Looks like you didn't read the article I posted about Pinochet but I know Progressives (progs) don't like facts. Facts get into the way of their delusions.
176 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
@174 And you think that the communists did not kill anyone? Seriously? What a very simplistic view you have of the world where you can categorise everyone as hero or villian; it is never that simple.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
177 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
@176
Did Allendes government kill anyone??? Show me proof of that...
Or are you talking about Russia? You mean Pinochet is right to kill Chileans because Stalin killed Russians?? How are you thinking??
I never said Allende was a hero, you are assuming that, read my posts. What I am saying, is that Pinochet was a villain, that is a fact, not only me saying it...

It's getting more and more obvious where people stand in their morals and values.

I don't bloody care where you guys are from, I will fight you wherever you may be...
178 Chicureo (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
#173 Think
Thank you. I'm supposedly recovering. We'll see. That's why I have so much time to terrorize Argentineans with Chinese high speed trains and Russian super wide body airliners.
By the way, one of my very good Argentinean friends lost his sister in the Ezeiza massacre. I had casually dated her when she vacationed with her brother in La Serena and was devastated when I learned of her death. Killing innocent people is terribly wrong. You had to be here to understand what went on, there is no simple analysis.
179 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:21 pm Report abuse
@178 You sure she didnt commit suicide after meeting you? I wouldn't blaim her...
180 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
Guzz calm down you're going to have a heart attack and they have such terrible healthcare in Uruguay.
181 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
@180 At least we tend to all our citizens, and not a selected few :) :) :)
182 Think (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
(172) Chicureo

The good old anecdote of the “missing” toilet paper !!!

We used to ride loads over the Cordillera for the friends.

It was as valuable as jeans in the Soviet Union during the 60’s.

But the fact is that it was never a real shortage of toilet paper in Chile during the UP government.
It was just stolen, hidden and stored somewhere.

Do you remember a couple of days after the Coup?
Miraculously, there was toilet paper all over the Chile
And cheap as ……………..Well……….Toilet paper.

Magic!

PS:
All this “toilet paper talk” made me “Think” about a very tangible cultural difference between our two great sister Nations.

You, Chilenos, do not have the slightest idea what a “Bidet” is for.
Maybe this particular piece of “Basic Roman Hygienic Culture” could have saved Allende’s life.

Allende……………………Salvador…………..

A man that entered our history, standing for ALL his people……..; PENNYLESS!

Compare with Pinocho that went “Sin Pena Ni Gloria” as a common thief, with 25million stolen Dollars in his bank account.

Compañero Salvador…………
Presente!
183 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
@177 When your attitude has matured you will understand it is possible to view situations without having to take sides. Only then can you really analise and evaluate.

You are a very angry young man who flip-flops on just about any subject just to stay angry. Your knowledge is superficial, conspiracy theories infantile and your prejudice astounding. Instead of festering in your bitterness, jealousy and frustration, why not arm yourself with an education and go and do something to change your life? Or better still, make a useful contribution to society. You can make changes but not by being an armchair racist.
184 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
182. Where is all the interest from Santa Cruz provinces oil money that was stashed by Nestor in Switzerland? I heard the U$ 300MM was in a nice K account in Cuba. What about Evita's jewels? I heard they were in Spain, was Peron fabulously wealthy from his military career?

Guzz, Since you only apparently only read progressive news outlets I will tell you everyone in the USA can go to a hospital anytime even if they don't have health insurance to be treated. I disagree with that wholeheartedly though. If you are rich enough that you don't qualify for gov't healthcare but too poor to buy your own too bad for you. Get a 2nd job or a job that gives you heath care I don't want to pay for your bad decisions. That is what is great about the USA!
185 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
@183 hmmmm... You watched too many episodes of CSI.... I'm a marine engineer living partly in Denmark, partly in Uruguay :)

You are the one defending torture, murder and abduction... I defend life.

Say what you want, scream like a troll, cry over your losses (in $), I don't care. I will never fall so deep into the human abyss that I take to murdering and torturing, like you lot.
Welcome to the new world order, with or without your liking
Only good thing for you, is that we are NOT like you. We are NOT fascists, we do NOT torture, we do NOT murder, we do NOT invade...
I understand this is difficult for you to grasp, but time will show you...
186 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
Yes, it is an interesting question. Is it acceptable for any leader of a country to increase their wealth hugely whilst in power?

@185 And I bet you love kittens in a basket. Stop being a cliche. No one is defending right or left wing dictators or abusers of power. Who are you really fighting?
187 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:08 pm Report abuse
@186 You are defending Pinochet... let me quote you:

“The Pinochet era is not black or white and whilst it is much easier to take an extreme, uncompromising position, it really is not that simple.”

Yes it is! If you torture and murder (or make people do it for you), you are a... yes, torturer and murderer!!

Quote:
“And you think that the communists did not kill anyone? Seriously? What a very simplistic view you have of the world where you can categorise everyone as hero or villian; it is never that simple.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.”

Nobody is talking about communism, nor is anyone defending it. Yet, you defend Pinochets actions with what happened in... Russia? Romania???

@185 Only thing great about USA is that it is leaving place for China :) Good luck paying that debt....
188 malen (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
169 you say that you were in Arg and people were not happy and there were opinions that they were better with miltar rule????????Sure you were in Argentina??? Watch your ticket well, you must have been drinking sth during the trip, you must have landed in another place, and then we can understand this nonsense comments. I mean, militar rule is sth not possible in the willing , in the minds, in the feelings of people of Argentina. sorry, but in this case your statics are very biased.
189 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
To these deluded guys,
Not long now to Guy Fawkes
Another explosive night .
7 short months

But for the worthy
Its only 239 DAYS 06 HOURS AND 43 MINS,
TO XMAS

www.xmasclock.com/
save it. Ya may need it .
cheer up

.
190 Marcos Alejandro (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:20 pm Report abuse
186 ElaineB “ Is it acceptable for any leader of a country to increase their wealth hugely whilst in power?”
Tony Bliar or Rupert Murdoch's puppet(PM Camoron)?
191 malen (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
169 both leaders (allende and pinochet) were acting in the best interests of its people.....................yes, but one illegally in power and disappearing people........so which interests are most important??
In that case why has kadafi been killed, after all he too was acting in the bests interests of its people, the same hussein, etc etc
192 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
@191 Don't even bother hitting them with arguments like that, their excuses are only just that, excuses, to uphold their fascist, invasive ideology...
NUNCA MAS!!!
193 Think (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
Nunca mas.
194 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:38 pm Report abuse
191. The welfare of the general population is more important and of course the interests of the USA are paramount. Don't you understand how the world works by now?
192. See my post on the other thread, you obviously don't know what the definition of Fascism. I will agree our ideology is invasive why do you think McDonalds is one of the biggest food providers in the world?
195 ElaineB (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:38 pm Report abuse
@187 Nothing in my quote defended Pinochet. Try again.

@188 I was in Buenos Aires when I first heard the mutterings. It absolutely surprised me because until then I had always heard the view that Argentines would never allow another military government. So, I explored a little further and heard it many times. People there are not happy with the inflation, endless strikes, lack of services and a poorer standard of living. Personally, I don't think it will ever happen.

@190 Stop swearing! Using the TB words. lol At least he waited until he was out of power before making his money. (We have rules about that) I still think it is obscene that he has made £50m since he left office. His wife was selling his autograph on ebay at one time; greedy mare.

But back to my question, do we think leaders should be allowed to increase their personal wealth whilst in power?
196 cLOHO (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
190 - Good old Dave cameron was wealthy before coming to power, Blair has made his money after his term as PM, both are wallys and dont rate them , but the biggest difference is they earn any money legally and dont steal it from the nation like the Reichmistress and her Salad dodging son. Lets nationalise an airline and steal a majority of the assets, then maybe an oil country, you like oil maximo, Olives Oil mummy me love!!
Even the trolls posts will dry up once the economy implodes, no money or food to distribute by la camping.
197 Tobers (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
A question for Guzz, British Kirchnerist, Think et al.

Wouldnt you prefer Argentina had a socialist democracy like in Scandanavian countries rather than focusing on populist politics and the cult of personality of Argentine politics which relies on stirring up peoples emotions by creating -them and us- scenarios rather than simply applying good sound policies that tangibly benefit the majority of the nation for the longer term?

Peronism requires a poor, ill educated, dependent class to sustain itself. It simply couldnt exist without that.

Social democracies of Scandanavia exist because the largest class of voters - the middle class - vote for them. They are far more egalitarian and 'wealthier' (not just economically but the options open to them) than the populist/nationalist models of Argentina etc

Dont mention the Scandanavian suicide rates. They are similar the world over in extreme northern southern latitudes probably due to the lack of light and the need to stay indoors!

Anyway the choice seems like a no brainer to me.
198 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
Only reason you hate their guts is because you are not getting a share of the cake. NUNCA MAS :)
199 yankeeboy (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:49 pm Report abuse
195. Their wealth can increase if it is a blind trust unfortunately that is only in civilized countries.
Not counting the stolen U$ from Santa Cruz, CFK's public fortune was established by crony deals allowing Ks to buy land for un Pesito per hector from the Provincial gov't and building hotels and subdividing it. I think that little deal made her U$12MM...more or less.

FYI THIS IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AND SHE IS STILL NOT IN JAIL!!
200 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:50 pm Report abuse
to all argie bloggers,
how would you feel if when you cross from france to britain, or any boarder crossing to britain,
if saw signes stating that the falklands were british,
[and yes we are an island] we meant before boarding silly .
would you think that is ok. or very childish.
201 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
@199 you just admitted to support torture and murder if it suits your nation and now you point fingers at someone for alleged stealing?? Are you for real????
202 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
Also did you all know this,,,,
A sign at the Argentine-Brazilian border, translated into English, proclaims “The Malvinas [Falklands] are Argentine” to visitors entering the country from Brazil.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute

That is the only reason I asked.
Open wiki and its near the bottom, a nice little picture .
.
203 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:59 pm Report abuse
@202 Seems we have more serious issues than the islands, lad. We have still not cleared our own backyards. A word of advice though, these people of no scruples are no ones to befriend, as they will backstab you should they see any profit in it.
Keep the islands, just don't touch the oil on the argentinian basins, and we can all live in peace
204 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
to be fair,
what is british, should remain british.
what is the falkland islanders, should remain theirs.
and what is argentinian should remain argentinian .

all should keep to their own,
their is enough free water between them, is their not .
205 slattzzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 05:09 pm Report abuse
Well as a person that served in the Falklands I can honestly say what a load of shite you talk, you have no idea and all your political rambling will not alter the fact that the Falklands (there is no Malvinas) will remain British always. As for China being your so called saviours they will do what they always do bleed you dry and then thin out, do you really think they care about Argentina, they will get what they can at the best price and be gone, your ignorance is unbelieleavable. Keep listening to CFK and believe what you want, but believe this the FALKLANDS will never be anything else but BRITISH. I'll give Argentina a year before it all goes horribly wrong and then you'll start sabre rattling again, but let me tell you it will be too late by then, in fact it's to late now. Enjoy your delusions
206 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
@204 I do agree, but don't for a minute think that you will be able to keep the oil for yourself, as your teat nation will take its share, which means all of it...

I have no issues with the islanders, although I do think argentinas claim is fair. That said, the islanders are the rightful inhabitants
207 Tobers (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
@Guzz

You mentioned Scandinavian politics earlier. I would be keen to learn your views in relation to my question and views @197.
208 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
@207 I would prefer our nations as they are, for Scandinavia is not what it was in the 80's, Olof Palmes Sweden is something to struggle for and try to achieve, Pia Kjærsgaard of Denmark makes Elaine look like a proletarian...
209 Tobers (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:31 pm Report abuse
I think with Argentina-s huge size and wealth of resources it could achieve far more wealth and stabilty than most countries in the world could dream of. It is blessed and yet it has consistently struggled thanks to nationalist politics over the last 60 years. If it hasnt worked up to now and in other countries too why would it work now?

Also its entirely contradictory that certain politicians should have and seek so much wealth whilst claiming to be fighting for the common man.
Surely they should be concentrating on running the country - as politicians -and not making lucrative business deals to say the least .

Argentina requires stable, relatively honest politics with long term goals rather like Germany and Japan had after the 2nd world war. A much fairer, more honest, responsible society with non emotive politics is entirely possible.

I think a good politician should be like a good referee in sports match. Iow hardly noticed because the game itself is allowed to flow and the centre of attention is the game not the referee.

At the end of the day being a politician SHOULD be about doing a job -forming and applying policies. An employee of the state. Not frequently partaking in self promotion projects.

Let the policies do the talking not the rhetoric
210 Pugol-H (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
“Falklands’ budget enjoys additional surplus boosted by the oil industry”.

Only the beginning.

Shine on you Falkland Islands.
211 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
@209
I don't disagree with you, although I still let the Argentinians decide their own future. As long as they don't invade anyone, the country is theirs to do what they please. Should they invade the Malvinas, I would disagree, as I disagree with USA's invasive nature.

You can disagree with their methods, but if you check up on the actual numbers, they are doing quite good...
212 toooldtodieyoung (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:52 pm Report abuse
203 Guzz.

Oh son, son, son. The Falkland Islanders will not be touching anything that is Argentinian. You can be sure of that. They are just improving their own quality of life the legal and responsible way. It's only those whiny a*sed , cry baby Argentinians who are kicking up a fuss about it and they are only doing that because they are in the habit of stealing everything not nailed down and laying claim to things that are not really theirs.

The South Atlantic would be a peaceful place if for that constant whining and crying sound coming from Patagonia but I think that the only reason for this is the fact that someone has stood up to them, Humiliated them ( as aposed to them doing it to themselves ) and now they are sulking about it. Just like the bully in the playground, who gets shamed infront of the class. Oh dear, boo hoo. Move on.

If there is oil out there in the Falklands and they do raise the money to pump it out the sea then GREAT, I hope that their economy can grow and flourish and may it improve ALL of their lives. It can stand as a beacon to the Argentinians to show what can be achieved when you don't have some crackpot, bi-polar, thieving, lunatic in charge
213 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
@212 Neither Tony Blair or David Cameron are in charge of Argentina, so your post makes no sense...
214 toooldtodieyoung (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
213 Guzz

Oh son,son,son.............. Again you have missed the point, by the way, does mummy know you are on the internet?

I was not talking about Tony “The great Satan” Blair or David “F*ckwit” Cameron, I was talking about KFC. Read the last paragraph of my post again and if all those long words are giving you trouble, get an Adult to help you with them.
215 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
@214 Mommy says Argentinas president is Cristina Fernandez, not Tony Blair, nor David Cameron.... I'm confused now...
216 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
215 Guzz
One is interested in your replies, they seem to contradict each other .
Allow me
206, you say=I have no issues with the islanders, although I do think argentines claim is fair. That said, the islanders are the rightful inhabitants

Then
211=let the Argentineans decide their own future. The country is theirs to do what they please.
…………………………………………..
On one hand you think Argentina has a claim to the islands, but think they have a right to decide their own future,
And thus Argentina has a right to decide her future,

Then should you not agree, that if the islanders have a right to decide their own future,
And they decided
1, to remain British,
2, to have nothing to do with Argentina
3, to remain British until otherwise stated.
……………………………………………………………………….
This then solves the whole problem from you point of view then,
And thus Argentina claim is irrelevant,
Is it not.
And thus CFK and her government should add ear and respect the islanders wishes, and thus denounce any and all claims, and leave them alone .

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217 Pugol-H (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@216 briton

He did say he was confused.
218 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
@216
Well no, the islanders are the rightful inhabitants, it doesn't mean they can choose who the islands belong to, just as the patagonians can't choose to be part of Indonesia, but they are still the rightful inhabitants of Patagonia...
219 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
To be fair, following some Malvinista arguments is like playing twister with an octopus.
220 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
Well no, the islanders are the rightful inhabitants; it doesn't mean they can choose who the islands belong [as you say ]]
??
So are you saying then.
That if you are the rightful inhabitants I.E the owners, you have no right to the ownership and cannot do as they please.

But on the other hand, as Argentinean are NOT the rightful inhabitants, they can say who owns Argentina,
Is this not backward ideology in reverse.
So==as most inhabitants of South America are NOT the rightful inhabitants, they CAN decide who owns the land,
But as most Europeans and Africans, are the rightful inhabitants, they CANNOT say who owns them
Very very interesting .

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221 Guzz (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
@220
You said the owners, I never said that, rightful inhabitants means they have the right to inhabit, preccisely what the word indicates... English is not that hard, really...
222 lsolde (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
@221 Guzz,
You do sound confused.
A little while back, you stated that it was right for the Falklands to drill for oil but not right for them to extract it as the oil(seams? strata?caverns even?)lay under Argentine territory & we would thus be taking their oil.
Undoubtedly!
But what would you have us do?
1) stop drilling?
why?
-to please Argentina. not very likely after the way they have been behaving.
2) cut them in on a share?
why?
-we had an agreement with them that would have covered situations like that, but they tore it up because we refused to discuss sovereignty.
They made that decision to withdraw, not us.
3) anyway, it cuts both ways.
lf they drill in their territory & we don't, they will be extracting OUR oil.
What do you say to that Herr Guzz?
223 briton (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
221 Guzz
their seems to be NO definition of rightful inhabitants
.....
so you will have to difine what you mean, in order for us to interpret.
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other wise your entry would be rightful inhabitants means they have the right to inhabit, preccisely what the word indicates...
thus inhabit and not own.
theirfore argentinians have a right to inhabit, but not own, thus you do not own argentina .
.............................
try online and you will find
that rightful inhabitants ,, has no definition.
224 Marcos Alejandro (#) Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
195 ElaineB
Cameron is not better than Blair, let's wait until Rebekah Brooks disclose text messages and emails between herself and Cameron.
225 Chicureo (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:35 am Report abuse
REGARDING “GUZZ”

Yankeeboy: I followed your advice and did an analysis at www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi/questionnaire/ of the past 35 recent posts of the character who calls himself “Buzz.

No surprises: The conclusion is he’s a single male, most likely between 18 and 25 years of age, underemployed, most likely still living with is mother, perhaps attended one or two years of trade school before dropping out. An extremely self-centered narcissist, who craves attention and acknowledgement from others. He has trouble empathizing with superiors or understanding their positions. He’s apparently extremely sensitive to rejection - implied, perceived or real from others and may react with displays of aggression, threats or temper tantrums when denied. He claims being a “marine engineer” that commutes between Denmark and Uruguay, but the conclusion is its nothing more than another manifestation of his delusions of grandeur.
226 Think (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 04:24 am Report abuse
(225) Chicureo.......

Have you tried to do the same analysis based on the last 35 recent posts of the character who calls himself “Chicureo” ?

Have you tried to do the same analysis based on the last 35 recent posts of the character who calls himself “Yankeeboy” ?

I “Think” you are in for some surprises about yourself and your cybermates...

Anyhow...........

It happens to be that I know a bit about the Latinamerican exile community in Scandinavia.
It happens to be that I have a pretty good idea about who Mr. Guzz’s parents are.
It happens to be that he is who he says he is.
227 cLOHO (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:54 am Report abuse
226 - I ''Think'' ...hey i did it thats very clever what you do with your Troll name dead witty and shows your intellect. The main point is that the cLOHO...nah its doesnt work for me. But keep up the informed Troll postings , hope maxioms boys drop a food parcel off soon.

Just ''Think'' bombarding sites with Troll postings doesnt constitute support for a failing RG regime,....wow it really looks slick doesnt it using ''THINK''...
228 GeoffWard2 (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:01 am Report abuse
Hmmmm,
I've just done the same exercise on my last 35 postings .... my God, it's amazing just how boringly conventional - though consistent - a person can be!
Still, a site as hot-headed as this one needs a few sheet-anchors in the stream.
229 ElaineB (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:31 am Report abuse
@224 Oh, I don't know. I wouldn't defend either of them but TB was the first PM to really let the rot in. There have always been relationships between government and newspapers but Blair took it to a different level - under the firm hand of Alistair Campbell. I could tell you some tales.

But still avoiding my question. Do you think leaders of countries should be allowed to increase their wealth whilst in power?
230 GreekYoghurt (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:03 am Report abuse
I try not to talk to Guzz, as he's clearly a tiresome argie who abandoned argtardia (because it's sh!te) and is trying to be nationalistic in order to deal with the guilt of abandoning his homeland.

I don't need a statistical website to tell me he's a bore.
231 ElaineB (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:43 am Report abuse
@231 I was playing with him yesterday but I shouldn't have because he is a very troubled young man with a huge chip on his shoulder.
232 Musky (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:44 am Report abuse
@216
The Argentina claim fair! What rot. A claim based on proximity! Hilarious. Britain is 21 miles from France, so I suppose France has a legit claim on Britain!
A claim based on inherited Spanish claims. What a joke. A corrupt pope's gift of half the new world to Spain and the other half to Portugal even before the islands had been discovered.
A claim based on the supposed eviction of a Spanish colony (bought from French). A blatant lie. A totally disproved historical non-event yet taught in Argentine schools to keep the lie alive.

Good luck to the islanders. Hope the money floods in to your coffers!
233 Max (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:09 pm Report abuse
& 231

@ 231..................

You are talking yourself...?
234 toooldtodieyoung (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
231 ElaineB
.....and very confused as well, little lamb...... My last conversation with him took a screaming left turn into the twilight zone. Best to tell him we mean him no harm...... take him back where you got him from....and try not to get any on your fingers.
235 ElaineB (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
@234 Well he sang us a song dedicated to himself and bid us farewell. I suspect he was home on weekend release.
236 Marcos Alejandro (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 05:04 pm Report abuse
229 ElaineB
Answer: YES, earned or acquired legally.
237 Chicureo (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
#226 “Have you tried to do the same analysis ... on “Chicureo” ? I did, and then mysteriously the ring tone on my smart phone was automatically changed to the music and lyrics of the group Puddle Mudd ”Psycho“: ”Maybe I'm the one
Maybe I'm the one who is the schizophrenic psycho (yeah)...“
What's scary is that maybe it's a CIA, of KGB conspiracy to take over my mind with cosmic rays... Where are my meds again?

Ah pitiful ”Guzz“: I also have no doubt that he's of mixed nationality parentage pretending to be something he isn't and posting nonsense that he has minimal knowledge about. He's young, most likely still living with his mother in Europe and is an extremely self-centered narcissist. He is not a ”marine engineer“...

#228 As long as we can keep our humor, we can somehow survive dealing with idiots.

#230 Intuition in knowing you are dealing with a madman is not difficult.

#234 All joking aside, he is very mentally unstable.

#235 I think you could very be correct.

Anyway, as some of you know, this was the result of being threatenedby ”Buzz“ and ”Joe Bloggs” (Supposed resident of Port Stanley) to be banned from posting at MercoPress.
238 Marcos Alejandro (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
237 Freedom of speach...Pinochet style of course.
239 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
Chucky
I would never try to get you banned, actually, I'm using your posts as educational material. Course is called “Life of a butterfly”, because you passed the stadium of GUSANO :)
240 Marcos Alejandro (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
237 I am sure you can read ny inglishh, I meant freedom of speech @238.
241 briton (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:26 pm Report abuse
232 Musky
Not 216
We thinks you are searching for [215 Guzz ]
.
242 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:27 pm Report abuse
Marcos
I tried to uphold a normal conversation based on manners, they couldn't deal with that and started abusing... Well, I'm better at that aswell :)
And don't worry about your spelling, the fact that they can read what you type has nothing do do with them understanding anything :)
243 Think (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

Joe Bloggs is just a typical humorless old Kelper ronkedoor……
He even got one of my Youtube videos removed because it was too funny!
I’ll post it again just for you…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrGIhrs3HkI

Hilarious isn’t it! :-)))
244 Chicureo (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
Very funny! I still struggle with the French system of describing numbers.
Two of my favorite: (Yes, I'm pro-American, but they sometimes are just too full of themselves...)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE1wh416cyA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY&feature=endscreen&NR=1

As far as for “Joe Bloggs”, I sincerely doubt he's what he says he is, but he certainly thin skinned.

Kim Jong Un's Congratulatory Speech, Guidelines for National Reunification
245 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Amazing, as soon as someone differs from your views, it's because they are pretending to be someone else :)
That's democrazy for you people:
Freedom of speech, as long as you say what I want to hear, just as you restrict the options and call it freedom of choice :)

@244 Chucky!!
What's the english word for GUSANO?
246 Think (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:59 pm Report abuse
(244) Chicureo

1) Four twenties fourteen = 94 :-))) Luuuuuv French…………

2) The 100 Argie pesos in my wallet (About 11,000 Chilean pesos or 23 US Dollars) say that Joe Bloggs is exactly what he says he is…….
A humorless Kelper!
247 cLOHO (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
thefederalist-gary.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/china-is-buying-up-argentina.html
248 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:15 pm Report abuse
@247 Is that your blog?? :) :)
That's your “sources”, wikipedia and blogs....
249 cLOHO (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
haha this site is full of wiki links and youtube sites. Iam not in a court of law giving evidence. Its a forum where sad people like myself trade banter with paid RG Trolls.

Truth hurts though doesnt it, you know deep down its true, come on admit it. To coin a US phrase they own your @sses
250 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
@249 Gimme a sec, I'll make a blog saying UK is aiming for Greek economy... Aren't you the witless one...
251 cLOHO (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
haha or quote a news agency
252 briton (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
Falklands’ budget enjoys additional surplus

Keep this up, and it is the Falklands that will be trading high with the Brazilians.
Keep up the good work.
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253 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
@252
SA will only trade with the islanders as soon as UK is out of the picture, that includes Brazil, a country that closed it's ports for “falkland” (british) vessels in support of Argentina. Only Uruguay allowed food through, a fact I agree with
254 briton (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:52 pm Report abuse
A fact that will haunt you in infinity

It is a well known fact, that to support a crime make its supporters more guilty than the criminal,

You defend Argentina with enthusiasm; one would have to wonder why.

Either way, South America can support her till hell freezes over,
But you will never ever destroy democracy, and anyone who thinks differently is either a fool, or a supporter of dictatorship,
Again one cannot have it both ways.

So amigo, you support who you wish,
But don’t expect god to back you up .
When the devil , will be waiting in anticipation.
255 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:56 pm Report abuse
@254 I meant I supported Uruguay in its decision to let food through to the islanders :)

The only ones to destroy democracy and introduce democrazy were your leaders Bush and Blair... and Cameron, and Thatcher... Reagan... Nixon... not Obama, he's like a fart in the wind...
256 Chicureo (#) May 01st, 2012 - 01:41 am Report abuse
#247 Outstanding eye-opening link. The Argentines think they are taking back their patrimony, but actually they're selling out to China...
By the way, don't the mentally challenged troll (#255) bother you. He claims to be a married professional Uruguayan working as a marine engineer, but in reality is a young single male, of mixed-nationality, underemployed, most likely still living with his mother in northern-Europe. He exhibits a non-completed mediocre education with English as his primary language. An extremely self-centered narcissist, who craves attention and acknowledgement from others. He has trouble empathizing with superiors or understanding their positions. He’s apparently extremely sensitive to rejection - implied, perceived or real from others and may react with displays of aggression, threats or temper tantrums when denied. He claims being a “marine engineer” that commutes between Denmark and Uruguay, but the conclusion is its nothing more than another manifestation of his delusions of grandeur.
257 WestisBest (#) May 01st, 2012 - 01:48 am Report abuse
@253

“SA will only trade with the islanders as soon as UK is out of the picture”

You keep telling yourself that if it gives you comfort, I'll just drink to Brazil and Uruguays continuing trade with the Falklands and logistical support of the oil exploration in Falklands territorial waters (and drink to it in Chilean wine to boot).

Maybe you Argies should try opening your eyes and removing your thumbs from your arses if you really wanted to isolate the Falklands, not that you'd manage anything even then.
258 Guzz (#) May 01st, 2012 - 01:52 am Report abuse
Chucky!! :)
You forgot to take your alzheimer pills?
You are going in loops, mate :)
259 lsolde (#) May 01st, 2012 - 08:56 am Report abuse
@253 Guzz,
We can get along quite nicely without Argentina, thank you.
But l appreciate your concern.
260 malen (#) May 01st, 2012 - 11:46 am Report abuse
MP is so biased and proproproproprobrit, that forgets to tell some news happenning round the world that they dont like about Malvinas, central topic of this pasquin.
Example, Obamas gaffe (in all the media of the world) calling Maldives the isles instead of Malvinas and sth of neutrality. Alicia Castro in UK saying to Hague sth about give peace a chance (she is brave characther, take care). And the presence of Nobel prize Perez Esquivel in UK, giving the letter (signed by Eduardo Galeano too??, Nora Cortiñas, Baltasar Garzón, by someone of Ireland, Rigoberta Menchú, etc) to british government to resume dialogue. Is in the press even of UK, but casuality not here. oh oh
261 GreekYoghurt (#) May 01st, 2012 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
@260 maybe you live in a hole, but argentina just showed it didn't like peace or dialogue when it stole a company off some spanish pensioners. They resorted to theft, rather than negotiation or dialogue. They even ignored their very own constitution in doing so.

Exactly, which part of that are you failing to understand here? The bit about argentinians having no interest in giving peace and dialogue a chance?
262 Chicureo (#) May 01st, 2012 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
Regarding JOE BLOGGS:

#150 What Mr. “Joe Bloggs” (Resident of Port Stanley) does in his private life is his own business. Chilean women can be very attractive, assuming that Joe prefers women... In any case it's his private life and I would never consider outing Joe for his sexual preferences which are rightfully private. Therefore I would ask that alll of us on the board be respectful of JOE BLOGGS in this baseless allegations of what #150 refers to.
263 Usurping Pirate (#) May 01st, 2012 - 03:33 pm Report abuse
Malen : The reason the Falklands Islands are well defended IS to give peace a chance , the UK and the Falkland Islands are not about to mount an invasion of Argentina , I know your fragile ego cannot take this , but we are not interested in your failing country , simply in ensuring your failing country does not mount another Falklands invasion officially or UNOFFICIALLY ( read about the 1967 “invasion ” ) .

As for Alicia Castro , the London diplomatic community is literally wetting itself with laughter at her pathetic attempts to get an interview with Hague , you do realize she is practically stalking him like a love sick schoolgirl ?
Finally , who gives a toss about a letter signed by a bunch of spaniards ? They are are individual citizens , not a UN commission or an authority on the subject. To the best of my knowledge , none of them have even been to the Islands.
You RG's are clutching at straws.There is nothing to have a dialogue about .
264 Guzz (#) May 01st, 2012 - 03:35 pm Report abuse
Chucky!! Are you trying to tell us you actually been with a woman??? HAHAHAHAHAHA
265 Chicureo (#) May 01st, 2012 - 05:42 pm Report abuse
Justicialist Party May Day Celebrated

Buenos Aires, May 1 (Buenos Aires Herald) -- The dear respected Maximo Fernández made a congratulatory speech at the Justicialist Party parade celebrating the brave workers of Argentina on the May Day holiday. His speech has enjoyed great public response as it was vibrant with superb intelligence and iron will and gives clear-cut answers to questions arising in building a thriving nation.
In particular, his statement that “Our party and the government of the Justicialist Party will join hands with anyone who sincerely wishes the reunification of the country and peace and prosperity of the nation, and make responsible and persevering efforts to realize the historic cause of national reunification with our brothers held captive in the Malvinas Islands” instills in the minds of all Argentinians the conviction of sure victory in national reunification with them.
Maximo Fernández was evidently making a reminder of the tireless work of his mother, Dear Leader, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who has called for national unity before anything else and led all patriotic-minded Argentinians to the efforts for national reunification with the Islas Malvinas.
This statement also made people recall the bold and fearless leadership, of his father, the late Great Leader President Néstor Kirchner as well who declared that Argentina would join hands under the banner of great national unity with government authorities or ruling and opposition party officials, politicians and Argentine workers, if they value the common interests of the nation and want national reunification with the illegally held rightful territory of Argentina.
The idea of on great national unity and their lofty personalities and patriotism of Presidents Cristina Fernández and the great leader President Néstor Kirchner, have served as a source of strength enabling all Argentinians to turn out in the drive for national unity and reunification.
266 cLOHO (#) May 01st, 2012 - 06:18 pm Report abuse
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17908679

Look who is coming to help you celebrate, our very own HMS Dauntless. Isnt she a nice bit of kit.
267 Guzz (#) May 01st, 2012 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
@266 Send her into Argentinian water :) Lets see what happens :)
268 lsolde (#) May 01st, 2012 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
@267 Guzz,
We don't have to.
l'm pretty sure the Argentines get the picture.
@260 malen,
There will be NO NEGOTIATIONS on Sovereignty, Malena.
That must be clear to you by now? No?
How would you like to “negotiate” the sovereignty of Argentina? ermm?
269 Guzz (#) May 01st, 2012 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
@Isolde
Know that Argentina will NOT attack the Malvinas, HMS or no HMS, army or no army, that is just not going to happen. Attack 82 was the work of a fascist regime that in order to try score points with the people, sent 100 of young men into their death (amazingly, they didn't send their own sons). We never bought it, true it was a few pro-juntas that celebrated the insanity, but know that the masses never ever agreed with that. Watch the movie “La guerra de las Malvinas” and you'll see things from the common Argentinian point of view.
270 lsolde (#) May 01st, 2012 - 09:14 pm Report abuse
@269 Guzz,
The ONLY reason that they won't attack the Falklands(please use the correct name for the country)is because they can't.
lf Argentina had the capability they would be here in an instant.
Don't give me that rubbish that it was the Junta but not the “innocent” Argentines who invaded or even supported the invasion.
How do you explain the cheering crowds in the Plaza de Mayo in 1982?
How do you explain the dancing in the streets throughout Argentina?
The invasion was supported close to 100% by the Argentine people.
And now, their intentions are even in their constitution.
We will never trust them.
271 briton (#) May 01st, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
Some people say, that Argentina will never invade the Falklands ever again,
The one thing I love about humans is
1, how trusting they are
2, how quickly they forget
3, how evil under the guise of peace can work wonders
4, how the masses will believe anything they are told
5, how corrupt politicians can literally get away with treason, and call it progress

8, and how its all for your own good, belive us, we know what we are doing,
Trust us,, its for your own good, as you know nothing,
We politicians know everything.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////
Don’t you just love those words?
Well I think differently
I believe the argentine government on the surface is portraying peace in our time,
But behind your backs is progressively trying every trick and skull drudgery under the sun, to take them,
Remember we have to defend them 24 hours a day every day,
They have only to strike once and maintain a bridge head, until the world calls for a ceasefire to talk,
,,,,,,,,,,,
Just a point in question .

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272 Guzz (#) May 01st, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
@Isolde
Idiocy doesn't discriminate, it attacks all nations, and during the military dictature, there where people that supported the junta, the very same ones that cheered in the Plaza de Mayo. Those people are not representative for the Argentinians, no matter how much you would like them to be.
Ask any Argentinian you meet if they supported the junta invading the Malvinas (and yes, for us Uruguayans they are the Malvinas). Please watch the movie about the war, it tells you the history from common argentinians point of view. We will never invade the islands. Period. And I say we, not as uruguayan or argentinian, but as latin american.
273 Simon68 (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 01:33 am Report abuse
272 Guzz (#)
May 01st, 2012 - 09:53 pm

The crowd that celebrated the “gesto de Malvinas” in Plaza de Mayo was exactly the same crowd that 74 days later was asking for Galtieri's head.

Frondizi, Alfonsin, and all the other politicians, both from the right and the left supported the Junta in the invasion. It would be pretty fair to say that the same 62% who support Kretina's attacks on the Islanders supported the Junta's invasion in 1982.
274 Chicureo (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 04:23 am Report abuse
I think many of the pro-CFK posters here are wearing pins with pictures of Nestor, Cristina, and Maximo, on their lapels... There're hopeless... and without a clue.
275 Guzz (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 07:36 am Report abuse
@273
Not at all, as having an opiniion is not the same as invading. I understand this is hard to understand for a nation like yours, where invasion seem to be the ultimate solution... Elections in England (tomorrow?) will show that people are growing ever more tired on it's right-wing politicians...
276 GeoffWard2 (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 08:07 am Report abuse
Guzz #275

'Invading'
............ do you mean something like Hitler's Anschluss or Napoleon's pan-European wars? ..... you know, 'active' invasion.
............ or do you mean the gradual population of territory populated by existing 'tribes'? .... you know, like North and South America.
........... or perhaps the re-taking of mainland Europe at D Day, or the re-taking of TFI in 1982? .... you know, responsive invasion.

I think that Britain was involved in invasions:
in Roman times,
in 1066, and
in the Crusades - including the Childrens' Crusade (losing side),

and in the time of Henry V (winning occasional forays into France, like at Agincourt; losing others).

Whilst you are right that 'invasion seems to be the ultimate solution'
especially where 'active invasion' - like Genghis or Hitler - is accompanied by genocides,
you claim too much bellicosity for the British. The (ephemeral) British Empire was largely built on trade rather than the bullet.
277 Guzz (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 08:11 am Report abuse
@276
Or mayhap I meant the illegal invasion of Iraq, the sacking of its natural, the torture of its people, the killing of its women and children. That must make you so proud of being british...
278 lsolde (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 09:00 am Report abuse
@277 Guzz,
You are wrong, Guzz about the Argentine people.
Nearly 100% supported the invasion of the Falklands.
They would do it again tomorrow if they could.
lf they are as innocent as you say, why don't they remove the offending paragraphs from their constitution & stop teaching lies to their school children?
And l wouldn't “like them to be” anything as you put it.
Perhaps l would like them to be good neighbours but l think its gone too far for that.
Just thought that you might like to know, but the term “malvinas” is highly insulting for us.
They have never been & never will be, malvinas.
Even Argentine atlases refered to them as “lslas Falklands” until they got this crazy idea that the lslands are theirs.
Guzz, your guarantees of non-invasion are worthless.
You may not want to invade but others do. especially now that there maybe lots & lots of oil!
Finally, l didn't agree with the invasion of lraq either.
Uncle Saddam's deceptions about WMD worked only too well.
Most people thought that he really did have them & that was all the excuse needed.
About the only thing that George Galloway & l agree on!
l know that we make mistakes & we can be prize bunglers but even so:-
Yes l am very proud to be British.♥
279 Guzz (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
@278 “Most people thought that they did have them...”
2 days before the invasion, Saddam Hussein invited USA to see for themselves, they rejected the invitation. Nobody believed there were any WMD, actually, you KNEW there were no WMD, or your government did, but they chose not to tell you, in fact, they chose to terll you the opposite.
The ONLY reason your proud nation of murderers of infants invaded Iraq, was to get their hands on the oil, and now you are going to do the same to the islanders. English newspapers are talking about “Biggest oil findings since the 70's”... As far as I know, there was no oil findings in the Malvinas (that's the SPANISH NAME for the islands, you call them whatever you want) in the 70's, was it?
280 lsolde (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 10:49 am Report abuse
@279 Guzz,
You're coming out in your true colours now. Thank you for that.
l am not going to get into a discussion with you about lraq.
That has nothing to do with the FALKLAND ISLANDS.
l couldn't care less about you or the Spanish.
You & they & certainly NOT Argentina own these lslands, WE DO.
l don't think the English are going murder our infants!
Where on earth do you get these bizare ideas from?
l think maybe Chicureo was right about you.
You need some help.
You do have right of reply of course but l'm sure that talking to you is a waste of my valuable time.
Lovely oil, oil, oil, oil :-)))))))))))))
281 Guzz (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 11:01 am Report abuse
@280
I take it you are an islander. If so, my post was not intended to you, as the murderers of infants are there british (the elected governbmet, they DID kill women and children in Iraq, didn't they, they did torture people, didn't they, they did invade for oil, didn't they?).
Of course it has to do with the Malvinas, just as it has to do with Northern Ireland, as there is a red line through all their actions. The steal lives, resources and chunk of countries...
If you ARE an islander, and there IS oil anough for you to prosper as a nation (note I say nation, not puppets), then I'm truly happy for all of you, as long as you don't start pumping oil from the Argentine basins (pretty unavoidable, hence the need of cooperation). Also, should you be an islander, you are as Latin American as I am...
282 dab14763 (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
“Also, should you be an islander, you are as Latin American as I am...”

No, Latin America is made up of countries that speak a Romance language. It does not include English speaking countries, or Dutch speaking Suriname. As South American as you maybe, but not as Latin American as you.

And Scottish colonisation of Northern Ireland was no different to Spanish colonisation of what is now northern Argentina and Uruguay, or Argentine colonisation of what is now southern Argentina (La Pampa, Patagonia, Tierra del Fuego) territories which were never Spanish, but which were invaded, conquered and annexed by Argentina (and Chile) after independence.
283 cLOHO (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
281 - UK torture ...evidence ???? facts of Northern Island are a bid wobbly do some research.
Regards Oil wasnt there an agreement between falklands and Argentina that RG's walked out on??? why because the falklands are a huge popularist distraction from RG economic collapse, a useful tool to unite the people, like the jews where for the nazi's.

All was quiet on the falklands issue until a couple of years ago when they found oil, then the RG's started slavering after it. We can bat around digs at each others country, none of this changes the facts.
1/ You illegally invaded another country.
2/ We regained the islands and you LOST

Get over it, humiliated yes you may be, but with time the pain will ease.
284 briton (#) May 02nd, 2012 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
One has to pick things delicately as confusion often follows,
Remember that all truth, in part is either false or created,
But to condemn one side, one must either condemn both or support the evil of the side,
Allow me .
[the elected government, they DID kill women and children in Iraq,]
Not strictly true,
Some innocent people, always get killed, only if the British government directed the military to kill civilians, could they be condemned,
Thus the removal of foreign troops would bring peace, yet even today, terrorists or murderers, routinely kill and murder women children, babies and men, =and where are the do gooders, that condemned the allies, but are mysterious, very quiet,
Did they really care about the innocent, or was it again purely anti military, and xxck the innocent .

[they did invade for oil, didn't they]
Actually ,no, for that may have been a reason in part, if it was purley to get the oil, then we today would have billions of tons of oil, , but we don’t, not one drop was stolen or removed to the UK, [fact]

[if you bring Ireland into it]
Then Argentina and its people, would be making the biggest mistake in their history to keep what is not wanted, unless you guys are willing to except the deaths and injuries .of hundreds of argentine military, trying to keep a province, that does not want you .
She is only Latin as wildly as we are considered European,
But we are as British as they are, and you are as Argentina, as brazil is Brazilian ,
Is this not true .
Finnit.

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285 row82 (#) May 03rd, 2012 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
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286 lsolde (#) May 04th, 2012 - 09:49 am Report abuse
@281Guzz,
We are not Latin Americans although some of us, including me, have Latin blood.
We are from the South Atlantic.
287 ManRod (#) May 04th, 2012 - 12:22 pm Report abuse
Isolde, you Islanders are surely no Latinamericans, as this is rather a cultural/ethnic definition rather than geographical (There also exist latinamericans within and born in the US, for example)

But I do believe according to rational definition, that you guys and girls are southamericans (geographically). And I do not think that this is any problem at all for your own definition as people. It might even enforce your own position and self confidence, if you would admit it and stand for your rights. As long as you see yourself distant from the continent (which you aren't, geographically), you will offer the Argentine mob surface to attack you and define you as intruder.
288 briton (#) May 04th, 2012 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
Actually the Falklands are positioned in the south Atlantic full stop.
What people regard them, is their opinion, but as they consider themselves Falklanders and British, that is the end of any debate,
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As we all may or may not say that the Caribbean and the west Indies are middle Americans,
We wonder how many of them actual consider them selves centre American,
As a matter of fact, does this mean that Canadians are in fact Americans, or referred to as north Americans,
But I can assure you, that if you ask any Canadian or British, or most of the worlds people, they would be considered and in fact are, Canadians.
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Interesting wasn’t it .
289 row82 (#) May 04th, 2012 - 06:27 pm Report abuse
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290 ManRod (#) May 07th, 2012 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
Briton, you seem somehow confused. Point is, the world is defined by continents and their respective allocated zones, and the example you have given (Caribean) has a very straight definition: The Caribean is geographically defined as North America. There is no room for any other interpretation. “Central America” is not a continent, but a subregion of North America. You can verify that in every encyclopedia. Canada is also located within North America. The Falkland Islands (and many other islands like Galapagos, Chiloe, Tierra de Fuego etc...) are allocated to South America. Like it or not, it's a ...FACT.
Being in the South Atlantic does not impede this, as it does not impede the UK to be defined as european country, even it's Islands are in the North Atlantic. Greenland is a similar case, a huge Island... dependency from Denmark, but still it is in North America.

And again, I am not putting in doubt the sovereignity of the islands at all, it's totally clear to me they are dependent territory of the UK (Same as Guyana is to the French). I totally respect this.

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