Argentina recalls Air Force Malvinas’ baptism of fire; promises “utmost respect for Islanders”
Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli assured that the Argentina government will reiterate its claims over the UK militarization at the Malvinas Islands and highlighted the backing of Latin American countries in the struggle fight for sovereignty over the archipelago.
“Our country will reiterate the claims accompanied by several countries, especially Latin America,” Puricelli assured on the 30th anniversary of the baptism of fire of the Air Force on May first 1982 during the Malvinas Islands war.
Puricelli also said that Argentina has “the utmost respect for the Islanders which continue as hostages and condemned to isolation because of the UK stance”.
During the rally held at the VI Air Brigade at the city of Tandil, the head of the ministry assured that “the support of the countries, especially from Latin America, will help Argentina achieve its aim of recovering sovereignty over the Islands, which is important because of its resources”.
According to Puricelli, the Malvinas Islands is the “only place militarized in South America”, since it is a territory “where nuclear weapons can circulate” adding that the “Malvinas cause demand will be sustained as long as necessary and as long as history demands victory”.
Recalling the 1982 South Atlantic war Puricelli said it was “the product of an improvised political and military decision” and admitted that the “Malvinas cause was used by the dictatorship to attempt to save a decadent political process”.
“The (Argentine) Armed Forces were sent to a certain defeat, and the air instrument proved it had transport capacity but not combat force”, said the Minister adding these conclusions were extracted from the recently released Rattenbach report.
“Without any doubt the war was a serious retreat in our sovereignty rights over the Islands” said Puricelli.
Brigadier Normando Constantino, Air Force Chief of staff said that in the Malvinas war the “technological and numerical misbalance with the English was compensated with the professionalism and courage of the Air Force personnel”, adding that in the original plan it was not anticipated a combat situation for the Air Force. He later paid tribute to the fifty five members of the Air Force who lost their lives in the conflict.
Minister Puricelli was accompanied at the ceremony by Argentina’s top military commands together with lawmakers; members of the Judiciary branch as well as Malvinas veterans and Malvinas families’ relatives.
Tuesday’s commemoration remembers Argentina’s Air Force baptism of fire when the first air strike against the British Task Force sent to recover the Falklands. A total of 57 sorties and dropping 20 tons of bombs were completed on that first day in 1982.
This is a special month and year also because the Argentine Air Force is celebrating its 100th anniversary.
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The only thing Argentina is good at is bullying, lying and stealing from other people.Maybe Puricelli is going to point at the new buildings on the islands as the top secret nuclear missile base.
What a bunch of no hopers . Nobody in the real outside world takes them seriously; not even their Latam brothers who are all trying to have good relations with Britain while paying lip service to Malvinas solidarity. They thanked Spain for the solidarity it showed.
When are the Argies ever going to grow up past the 6 year old tantrum stage? Never it seems !
Haha @ the islanders are hostages!
Where does Argentina find these nutcases?
In the meantime I love this quote:
“technological and numerical misbalance with the English was compensated with the professionalism and courage of the Air Force personnel”
They were flying supersonic aircraft against a subsonic air defence fighter (one they rejected to buy in the 60s) and there were only 20 Sea Harriers defending the entire fleet. Was his 10 to 1 numerical superiority too much of a disadvantage for him??????????
More Argentinian double talk me thinks. We all know the sort of “utmost respect for Islanders” they have. Do you remember this from their Ambassador, yesterday?
“Self-determination is not a right that every country has or every population has”
The only people they are fooling are themselves....
4- I agree - flarge leet of land based aircraft vs small amount of subsonic aircraft..the RG's as we know are not to blame for anything, anything goes wrong or fails is not there fault and somebody elses. Sad really, get over humiliation of losing a war.
“technological and numerical misbalance with the English was compensated with the professionalism and courage of the Air Force personnel”
From the article...
How wrong! It was the British not the English. Welsh, Scots, Northern Irish and lets not forget our friends the Gurkas!
How wrong! Argentine Super-entendards could do twice the speed of a Harrier. all the latest weaponry was at Argentina's fingertips.
Puricelli also said that Argentina has “the utmost respect for the Islanders which continue as hostages and condemned to isolation because of the UK stance”.
What a joke! Argentine aggression, embargoes, legal threats cause the islanders grief. The Islanders must be laughing their socks off. Hostages that are free to travel the world, hostages that can send their children to Britain's universities!
I cannot believe my ears, Puricelli must have the IQ of a weasal to believe this twaddle. Is their entire parliament of the same mindset? It's all a diversionary game to keep the public from noticing that country is deteriorating.
Divide and conquer, that's your game, but that's not going to happen. NUNCA MAS :)
Whose history? Only the history in the twisted, warped minds of the Malvinistas.........no-one else's history supports this.
The islanders need to know we mean them no harm. Again, I speak as a Latin American.
'The islanders need to know we mean them no harm.'...judt do what we want and no-one will get hurt.
argentina doesnt want peace it wants to takeover the falklands it failed militarly its never been able to persuade the islanders even when the UK was trying its best to offload the islands.
after the war the islanders lot has improved massivly Argentina now has little to offer.
I talked to an islander, Joe Blogg, we could agree on that the best solution for this problem was to work together to meet the future. Instantly he gets attacked by Chicureo (remnant of the Pinochet regime) insulting him and telling him he is no islander (as he always does with people he doesn't agree with). Joe Blogg has not posted since.
Morale: I think most islanders wants peace, they want dialogue, just like us (Latin Americans) do. The only ones that shout aloud are the Britons zand their allies in Latin America, the ones responsible for the military dictatorships (amazingly, the same people that invaded the islands in 82)
What rubbish. We mean them no harm!
We don't want Falklands flagged boats in our ports... but we mean you no harm!
We don't want Falklands planes in our airspace... but we mean you no harm!
We don't want cruise ships that visit the Falklands to visit Argentine ports..... but we mean you no harm.
We don't believe you have the right to self-determination.... but we mean you no harm.
We'll sue any company searching for oil in the Falklands.... but we mean you know harm.
We indoctrinate our children to think of islanders as pirates and squatters... but we mean you no harm.
We drum up support amongst our neighbours to further isolate the islanders.... but we mean you know harm.
What planet are you posters from? We in the UK have never lifted a finger against you except in self defense of our citizens and their homes. It is the UK who has had to tread the diplomatic tightrope so as not to upset the fragile mindset of the tantrum child that is Argentina.
Just a thought...but regardless of the rights and wrongs how does celebrating the 30th anniversary of an aggressive military act fit in with “give peace a chance”? Oh...it doesn't. It's a shame that they have chosen to glorify war when they could easily instead have chosen to focus on the 100th anniversary of the air force.
And is the word irony understood in Latin America? A good example is a politician standing in front of a military parade celebrating a military attack and then complaining about “militarization” by the state they are celebrating attacking.
Is it even possible to imagine the rabid howls of outrage from Kirchner and Timerman if the UK held a naval parade to celebrate the sinking of the Belgrano, or a parade of the RAF to celebrate their first actions in the conflict, let alone if a British minister had the temerity to speak at the event criticising Argentina? These are after all people who can take offence in using the words “a profound wrong” to describe an illegal and globally condemned invasion by a military junta best known for killing 30,000 of its own people. These are people who describe a search and rescue pilot as a conquistador!
There has been no act of hostility from the UK. There have been no blockades, no military parades, no harassment of fishing vessels, no threats of court action, no childish insults from the UK government.
Please understand that even the whole “give peace a chance” childishness from Kirchner, Timerman and Castro has really sinister overtones. There is peace. This is like a Mafioso standing outside a business commenting loudly on the combustibility of the building and asking the owner for a little chat.
Guzz...if you believe in peace you surely have to condemn the nationalist rabble rousing in Argentina, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation. This is the truly hostile rhetoric that is leading to bombs outside offices, to businesses being attacked and riots in the streets.
Guzz is a malvinista, he says he's from Uruguay, well maybe an Argentine living there.
But hes still a malvinista.
Bad, bad Guzz.
Many, many nations worldwide agrees with Argentina in her claims, so far I haven't heard many non-british voices defending British claims.
Heck, you did the same to the Irish, got a chunk of their country and pointed fingers at them when they tried to claim it back...
Ironic isn't it, Sr Puricelli ?
I don't blaim you, it must be hard living under a constant threat that isn't there... Ask USA, they see shadows all over the place.... Or the brits, the film eachother having a crap, should they shit bombs...
My dear Guzz...why the anger? Why the hostility? Why the potty mouth? Why didn't you just answer my question - why is an Argentinian politician celebrating an act of war, when Argentina is claiming to talk peace?
Sorry if you mistook my point on irony as a dig...british humour...not a dig at you. You have to admit it is pretty funny standing in front of a bunch of soldier's and complaining about another country's militarization.
Why have you jumped onto self determination, Ireland, global support...surely these are irrelevant to your points on relative hostility of the UK and Argentina? I was trying not to address the right and wrong of the Falklands, but the right and wrong of how the UK government and Argentinian governments are behaving. We can discuss those issues if you like but let's keep to the behaviour of the Argentinian and UK governments for now.
I agree with you entirely that the behaviour of the Uruguayan government is much better in international relations than Argentina. The trade delegation to the Falklands can only be commended, as can the recent cargo flight. You are right to contrast this mature behaviour to the childish hostility of Argentina turning ships away, banning charter flights etc.
It is reasonable to bring up HMS Dauntless. This is merely a routine replacement for HMS Montrose: the UK government went to great lengths to downplay the deployment. There has been a ship of destroyer/frigate class down by the Falklands for 30 years: this is no different from the Uruguayan military protecting the borders. Funny how when the UK had the option of her setting sale on the 30th anniversary the task force setting sail, but chose not to. She sailed with no fanfare, no political speeches, no hostility...just as it should be.
Interestingly on her way down to the South Atlantic she is helping train friends of the UK in anti-piracy operations in Gambia, Senegal and Morocco: the fight against piracy is something we can all agree is good.
You are not a Uruguayo. Only an Argie who pretends to be a Marine Engineer and is as bitter and twisted as you could think that this rubbish is good for Argentina.
Just giver me a clue as to where you live and I'll be round to show you the error of your ways. It will only take a few minutes. :o)
Richfe, I reread my post and I'm sure I wasn't being hostile at no point...
Personally, I mistrust military by nature, as those scum... persons are responsible for our naations to have to had live through almost 2 decades of injustices (Malvinas wars being one of them, you think they sent their own sons to die?). So I don't agree on ANY form for celebrations when it comes to that moral forsaken camouflage green outfit, even Chavez gives me the creeps when wearing it... And no, I don't see any point in celebrating anything else than the dead young men that rather had been somewhere else than on those islands fighting a pointless war.
If you check up on Argentinas military you'll find out that the last thing you can call them is being militarized.
Regarding the British humour, I do agree you have a quite amusing sense of the same, and the dry sarcasm does make me laugh, in a good way, mind...
For the same reasons as I mistrust our own military, I obviously mistrust foreign military and their purposes, as I don't see the need of rattling with arms, as well as I despise it.
Finally, on the matter of the pirates, it is becoming an issue in western media, although I don't think the real issue is increasing, just the focus on it, but yes, piracy is a good thing to fight against...
@ALL “utmost respect for Islanders”. Is this a joke? Seriously does he know that what they're doing is the exact opposite? Who the hell believes these people?
“Argentina has “the utmost respect for the Islanders which continue as hostages and condemned to isolation because of the UK stance” ”. Hostages? WTF?
Oh well, at least their local population are so brain-furked that they believe this garbage.
... I think most islanders wants peace, they want dialogue, just like us (Latin Americans) do.'
Biy rhw Argentine government doesn't want peace or to work together to meet the future. Guzz. It wants absolute sovereignty. Any promises Argentine goverments make to the islanders will be as worthless as any other promises they make. When Argentine governments have a long record- fifty years, say- of keeping their word there might be something to talk about.
That only tells me how right you are in everything you think you “know” :)
By the way, Gardel was born in Tacuarembo ;)
@All “Without any doubt the war was a serious retreat in our sovereignty rights over the Islands” said Puricelli.
Well, technically you lost the islands in an armed conflict which you caused, meaning that under the international law of 'uti possidetis' the UK owns the islands.
Get over it.
“the UK owns the island”
That much for self-determination :)
Beware islanders, someone is coming for your oil, and it's not Argentina :)
Better check up on HMS Lookatme, I bet instead of aircrafts, she is carrying barrels :)
Your attempts to annex the islands against the will of the people involved are the actions of sad sad sad furks who have nothing better to do than cry over trying to create pain for other people. That's how pathetic you and your people are.
Argentina comes in peace?
More like threatens, bullies and intimidates Falkland Islanders.
Yet you've heard the Argentine side, and agree with it, but when the actual people who live on the islands put their case forward you refuse to believe them. Don't they have the right to determine their own future?
If you believe that the Falklanders are being held 'hostage' by the British, why don't you visit the Falklands and see the truth for yourself?
You won't of course, because then you'll see for yourself how the Falklanders are an independent people, with a clear vision for their own future.
As for their being troops on the Islands, it's for the DEFENCE of the Islands and the Islanders, and they wish those troops to stay. Their choice, not Argentina's.
We all know from bitter experience that Argentine promises are worthless, and they may promise today not to invade the islands, but tomorrow they would invade, dispossessing the Islanders of their property, liberty, culture and possible their lives.
You may distrust the military where you live, but in Britain we trust our military to defend our freedoms, homes and our lives, and that is EXACTLY what they are doing in the Falklands.
As for your post @33 - The Islands are British as long as the Islanders wish to remain so. HMS Dautless is a Type 45 destroyer so doesn't carry aircraft, but it is exceptionally good at shooting down aircraft and missiles better than any other type of vessel in the world, and she is down their to ensure that the Argentinians don't steal the Falklanders oil.
Unlike Argentina, the British have laws that we ABIDE by, and don't change when it's politically expedient.
“The (Argentine) Armed Forces were sent to a certain defeat, and the air instrument proved it had transport capacity but not combat force” The argies mobilised FOUR naval task forces, 66,000 ground troops and over 100 combat aircraft. Facing “certain defeat” by 70 Royal Marines, 1 nuclear-powered submarine using a WW2-vintage torpedo, 10,000 British ground troops and 20 subsonic combat aircraft. So now we know. The WHOLE of South America couldn't defeat Britain.
“Without any doubt the war was a serious retreat in our sovereignty rights over the Islands” No, sonny, it was THE END. There are no “hostages” on the Falkland Islands. The Islands, together with South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, are British because the inhabitants want it that way. They realise that their population is too small to resist a belligerent, greedy neighbour. There will be NO change unless the Islanders wish it. And your actions reinforce that every day.
Oh, and “militarisation”? Who caused and reinforces the need for a British military presence? In 1981, the British military presence on the Falkland Islands consisted of approximately 40 Royal Marines (the Governor's ceremonial guard) and the Antarctic patrol and research vessel, HMS Endurance. Wonder why that has had to change?
But the argies will never use military force against the Falklands again. That's right. Because you won't get the chance!
I would like to take him somewhat seriously, but to do so would affront his wretched intelligence.
He's proven in previous posts that he's not from Uruguay. (If you read into his foolishness, one quickly realizes the numerous dim-witted contradictions.)
He said in a speech to a huge audience of Military personnel.........in Argentia..........that's Argentina in South America.
Anything said by any argentinian politician, diplomat, military officer etc has to be taken with a pinch of salt: they are past masters at presenting the old “black is white” argument.
I know the Argentine armed forces are rubbish but I assume they have one or two working bombs, bullets and missiles. Maybe they're armed with paint rather than explosives???
It really is just like something out of “Brave New World”, “1984” or “Fahrenheit 451”.
Rico, read your post where you in your confusion thought argentinian Cordoba was in Spain :) I rest my case :)
But whereas we are all doing this for the sheer comedy value . the poor little sod does it for a living .
What are you talking about, this is my new-found hobby, easy, amusing and bloody hilarious :)
I wonder whether they actually know they're talking nonsense.
@50 No. La Campora pays you, just like they pay tobias.
If that satisfies your intellect, then lets just say so :)
Here is some footage of Gloster Meteors and Beechcrafts killing hundreds of civilians including schoolchildren :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2R0OTMlMaQ&feature=related
RG's : If you are capable of doing this to yourselves , what hope have the Falkland Islanders got ?
WTF has he been smoking?
The current Argentine Govt. need to go, they are making it up as they go along, total amateurs.
we come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, men.
It's worse than that, he's dead, Arturo, dead,Arturo , dead, Arturo;
it's worse than that, he's dead, Arturo, dead, Arturo, dead.
Well, it's life, Arturo, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it;
it's life, Arturo, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.
Land Grabbin' across the universe,
Who is the space cadet? Clearly he is a Syfy fan !
And do you know what country the pilots then flew to for sanctuary? Yes, Uruguay!
Very sad chapter of a country that is destined to repeat its mistakes over and over and over...
But when you are talking to a indoctrinated computer, it is a complete waste of time,
But it seems then the facts are,
We are holding you all hostage, which is totally illegal, but no one will back CFK and come and rescue you, [because you not really hostages]
The British have no rights to you, because that is illegal, but no one will back you and throw us out, because it isn’t really illegal,
They will preserve your rights in stone, but your rights don’t actually Falklands rights,
As you will be removed and replaced with Argentineans, whose rights they will enshrine
And part two of this children’s book, will be played out at the UN when jack and Jill, walk up the hill to the UN in October, and then ????????????
To be continued.
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Don't jet engines have titanium in them?
Cristina, theres a bob or two to be made out of your Airforce!
And just think of the savings you can make by not buying Aviation fuel!
Suitcases of filthy lucre!
Dirty deals done dirt cheap!
(1) Falklanders had not been forced to drive on the right,
(2) Falklanders had not been forced to read notuces in Spanish only and
(3) the Argentine forces had not behaved like school bullies toward the islanders,
(4) the junta leaders had used some common sense in caring for their conscripts,
they might have stood a chance of getting the Falklands
The Falklanders still have bitter memories
they may have had a better claim to the islands
ln my personal opinion, one of the driving forces that launched the British fleet was the fact that the Argentines forced our surrendered Marines to lay down on the ground, took photographs of them, then sent them around the world.
They just couldn't help themselves. They had to crow.
l'd have done the same or worse to their troops when THEY surrendered in June 82.
Quite frankly bullying half trained half starved consripts isn'treally done.
their officers begged to keep their handguns for self defence.
64 : Even the RG armed forces veterans agree with this .Allegedly a Gente journalist goaded them into it . ISTR he later had to be taken off the islands because he got filled in by some locals ?
The problem I have with this statement is that he probably believes this. I think he needs help...
PSYCHIATRIC HELP!
but we british, drive on the Correct side of the road .
beep beep
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Well l don't consider myself either of those but l still don't like her.
She is a warmonger.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pB57lhPlk&feature=youtu.be&skipcontrinter=1
AHAhAhhaahahIDIOT,garbage BAron!
Former Argentine President, Néstor Carlos Kirchner, craved cocaine and cars, farted uncontrollably due to his vegetarian diet and was injected with semen from young bulls to keep up with his sexually active wife, Cristina Fernández, according to a rarely seen and historic cache documents discovered at the Casa Rosada and set for public auction next week.
The documents include the original 47-page classified report of President Kirchner, craved cocaine and cars, farted uncontrollably due to his vegetarian diet and was injected with semen from young bulls to keep up with his sexually active wife, Cristina Fernández, according to a rarely seen and historic cache documents discovered at the Casa Rosada and set for public auction next week.
The documents include the original 47-page classified report of the former president’s health culled from post-mortem interviews with his six chief doctors and that include diaries of what he heard Kirchner said, such as, “Blair and Bush are monkeys.”
The Kirchner cache, which is up for sale May 8-9 at Alexander Historical Auctions, a well-known seller of historical items.
The classified doctor’s report includes several extensive details about his health. Panagopulos said it quotes Kirchner doctor Theodore Morrell confirming that Nestor and Cristina had sex though they slept in separate beds and that he was injected with semen from young bulls to spark his libido. Under the section “Sex Characteristics,” the classified report said:
Panagopulos said the report also notes that Nestor “suffered from uncontrollable flatulence” due to his veggie diet, something the Argentine leader took pills for.
The longer report from Giesing noted Nestor’s cocaine use to clear his sinuses and that the doctor had to cut the dosage because the father of the “Malvinas Solution” craved it because it made him happy.
Those supporting invasion of Asian countries with “security” and “democratic” purposes are the ones supporting the british Government today. The Pentagon (because it is not even Obama supporting them) and the military industrial businessmen for example.
SELF-DETERMINATION is a clear excuse for those who didn't even care about their own citizens. A complete and HILARIOUS lie.
With invasions, colonialism, grabbing of natural resources and veto powers at the UN this world is not gonna get better.
Mainly through anti-colonial struggles
The Falkland Islanders are not struggling to become independent, or are they?
What do you call her actions against us, if not warmongering?
Of course she is a warmonger.
She is frustrated because she can't invade our lslands.
lf she could, she would.
lf the British military packed up & went home tomorrow, how long do you think it would be before the first Argentine units arrived?
l'll give you a clue,
the stern would still be visible of the last British ship.
Shes a sabre-rattling warmonger, who is frustrated & angry because she can't bluff us.
lts as simple as that.
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Of course you are welcome to your own opinions.
However you will never convince me otherwise about both her & her late husband.
l wouldn't trust either of them for one inch.
and thats a dead cert .
Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
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