Olympic Games joins Falklands’ dispute: “To compete in English soil, we train in Argentine soil”
As was somehow anticipated by Ambassador in UK Alicia Castro’s attitude, Argentina is determined to take advantage of the London Olympic Games global exposure to press for its claims over the Falklands Islands, as part of a plan allegedly called “Sowing for the Malvinas claim”.
The first example of this unconventional plan was aired Wednesday evening in several Argentine open and cable television channels in a 90 seconds spot under the name of “To compete in English soil, we train in Argentine soil”, has an Argentine Olympic athlete training in Port Stanley and outside the town.
The controversial advertisement to generate an impact amidst the conflict with the UK over the Falklands was made by the publicity agency Young & Roubicam and shows the Argentine men’s national hockey team captain Fernando Zylberberg, taking off early morning, running the streets of Stanley and crossing before some iconic places of the town such as the Globe Tavern, The Penguin News offices, the wooden and hedge fence of Government House, among others.
The last image shows Zylberberg falling exhausted over the sand of some beach and a message appears that reads “To win in English soil, we train in Argentine soil”. The video is posted in the Argentine Executive site and is dedicated as a homage to the Malvinas war fallen and combatants.
Precisely when the spot was being aired President Cristina Fernandez at a ceremony in Government House was inaugurating the Malvinas Islands Patio and stated that “we will continue to work hard, in all fronts in all democratic forums to keep adding consensus and promoting the idea of starting a dialogue” (with the UK on the Islands).
The spot obviously was filmed without the knowledge of the Falklands’ authorities.
Likewise last year some lawmakers proposed that the Argentine Olympic team uniform include a banner or a label saying that the “Malvinas are Argentine”. The initiative rests in Congress but given this year’s coincidences we shouldn’t be surprised if it is surfaced.
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Has he actually been to the Falkland Islands more than once?
(dialogue - discourse toward problem understanding and consensual action)
Argentina sees only one outcome - the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina - if you don't agree the Islands still belong to Argentina.
Should the UK consult the Olympic authorities about this now they know what the Malvinistas intend? Personally I was deeply offended in 1982 when they defiled my country, I expect I shall be just as offended by them the next time they do it.
Actually, if you think about it, it is a consistent pattern. Utterly unacceptable behaviour to anybody without an axe to grind but totally normal and acceptable for KFC, her circus roadshow and 'Kirchneristas' world wide. Thankfully there are precious few of those and most are as mentally unstable as she is.
So on the other hand I think I am looking forward to it now. It should be entertaining and cringeworthy.
Rules - those thing that the RG's dont bother with.
Another utterly shameful act by the Argentines.
How far do you have to go to get kicked out of the Olympics for politicising them?
Maybe the Falklanders should put an embargo on Argentinians visiting the islands under the 'prevention of terrorism act'. I mean they've already tried to bomb the EU building in Argentina.
Plus it would really annoy CFK and her cronies, and she may have to annex another international business in revenge! LOL
“No kind of demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other areas.”
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“No form of publicity or propaganda, commercial or otherwise, may appear on persons, on sportswear, accessories or, more generally, on any article of clothing or equipment whatsoever worn or used by the athletes or other participants in the Olympic Games, except for the identification [...] of the manufacturer of the article or equipment concerned”
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“Any violation of the provisions of the present clause may result in disqualification or withdrawal of the accreditation of the person concerned. ”
Actually think they are probably safe with the video though...they steered clear of actually naming the Olympics.
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On a less serious note...this is crying out to be satirised by the FIG, or anybody else with a camera...
I have a vision of Islanders of all shapes and sizes running out of the various buildings shown in this video, and past the various scenes...all ending up at the same place...with a big sign saying “Polling Station”. Cut to end slogan including words like “freedom”, “democracy”, “self-determination”, “human rights”...
The Argentine IOC member Gerardo Werthein must also abid this charter and has to suppress political abuse of his country's athletes and promote the host countries and host cities. Seems to me that the Zylberberg video is against this charter. IOC take note please!
David Sable, Global Chief Executive Officer “Never forget that only dead fish swim with the current.”
Yes David, we won't forget that Joseph Goebbels didn't swim with the current. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDWzev7XZk) Here is David Sable, CEO talking about being Jewish in business and having a higher ethic than other people.
He goes on in his You-tube to judge people like Bernard Madoff, who are apparently incapable of seeing who they hurt, people who are incapable of showing desire to make amends, zero desire to help the poor, the poorest of the poor, and then he goes and runs a piece of work helping to promote the forced annexation of someone elses land.
Then he goes on about taking the high ground... “are you respectful of the laws?” well David, not respectful of the UN charter or international law.
Well done Y&P, you're morally vacuous.
That would make me laugh for quite a while...
The military regime pulled a similar stunt in the '78 World Cup , using football as a propaganda tool back then . “ Somos derechos y humanos ”
( We are “ proper” and human )
Comments sections of all the RG papers including the pro government ones say the regime has really gone too far with this stunt .
The athlete admits it was made in secret at dawn and that he did for the money
here is a link to it :
www.clarin.com/politica/Expectativa-misterioso-televisivo-Gobierno-difundira_0_692930959.html
GY : Brilliant post BTW.
By including all the obvious British symbols on the Falklands they've made it look like they are laying claim to parts of the home counties.
It seems to highlight that the place isn't Argentine at all.
I say........carry on.
I just read one comment from LA Nacion where some dude said that if he was truly running in Argentinian territory he would be stepping in dog poop, he would get bitten, beggars would be asking him for a beer, there would be grime from boxes everywhere, prostitutes posters on the wall and vehicular chaos. He then went on to say that he would be lucky if he got home alive.
Puts it into some form of perspective.
Not to mention as others have pointed out this is against Olympic rules.
Doesn't look good for Argentinas chances in mens hockey.
If this guy is going to the Olympics anyways, then all they have to do is get the Polizei to pick him up at the airport.
@33 he looks like cream-bun powered Maximo could beat him in a 100m sprint.
Does C.F.K now have designs on their little underground kingdoms ? If so then what next? are we to hear the strains of an unfamiliar national anthem emanating from our compost heaps?
The advertising agency could be complicit, and conspiracy to commit visa fraud is also serious.
(en.mercopress.com/2012/05/02/argentina-recalls-air-force-malvinas-baptism-of-fire-promises-utmost-respect-for-islanders) I guess this is what utmost respect means. Just like peace means harassment.
So we're beginning to build up a dictionary of argtardian terms:
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utmost respect = complete disrespect
peace = harassment
We'll keep it updated.
WE though do respect war memorials and nobody would even think of doing that on their one at Darwin - that is the difference between the culture and attitude of Islanders and so many Argentinians ( there are some good ones).
Thankfully though, unlike them we're not low life vermin and don't have to sink to their level.
I gather the production company was American. I'd be interested to hear more about the director. I can't help but think he sold the Argentines a poisoned chalice. The question is - was it intentional?
The historical facts are:
During the 1600-1800 period the Falkland Islands changed hands many times between Britain, France and Spain until France gave up and Spain and Britian formed a truce. However, when Spain was thrown out of South America from various wars of independence, Britain was left with the last standing legal claim. However, the early Argentine Republic also decided it wanted the Falklands but instead of claiming it, it attempted to subdue the settlement/penal colony of one Loius Vernet - who had already gone to the British for permission and had recognised their ownership. When the British found out that Vernet was working with the Argentines they sent a ship to take direct control of the settlement and ejected the garrison but allowed the settlers to stay on. While this irritated Argentina, by 1850 Argentina had forgotten about theb issue and legally dropped its attempted claim in a treaty with Britain.
It was only later when Peron came to power in Argentina were spurious versions of history invented. It is because of this propaganda we have today's proplems that have been made worse by CFK and her cronies.
Director: “I didn't realise he was jumping up and down on a big and obvious war memorial”
UK Boreder Agency: “Really, didn't you?” *puts on rubber gloves*
then who'd be laughing about scurrying around the falklands in the early hours? (answer: we would)
Young & Rubicam (NY) according to The Telegraph, can contact them @ www.yr.com/contact
Intentional (unlikely) or not, I sent them a wee note already. I'm usually quite restrained with such responses, however, not when people use war memorials as training props in an underhand propaganda video.
I guess this is achieved through the production of crass propaganda for a peronist tyrant who cares not for human rights, complete with dancing on war memorials.
Not for the Falklands, but for the Olympics. Corrupt, rotten, uber-political institution. Thankfully 95% of argies will not even watch the Olympics, we don't care. Its like the World Cup to Americans or South Africans.
Just saying.
You don't care because:
1. La Campora doesn't take part, and
2. You never win any fucking medals.
As for your sporting prowess tell me how many Olympic medals Argentina has won?
@55 I wasn't crowing, nor was I ravening. The fact is, the only way you could win a medal is by getting Cream Bun eating as an exhibition sport. Then you can get your chief Cream Bun eater himself to win you the Gold.
You idiotic fool... if you don't care about an event or sport, are you likely to win?? What a fool.
The sports we do care about (football, basketball, tennis, rugby, field hockey, polo, and auto racing), we do QUITE well, usually in the top 5-10 in the world rankings, and have world cups or olympic gold medals in them.
Now get lost you uber-nationalistic bum, and just admit you can't be better at everything and live with it.
If they had a sport called War Memorial Desecration then Argentina might win a medal, that guy in your propaganda looks like he's had a lot of practice.
Shows your utter level of jealousy and contempt to admit anything. Argentina won almost every tournament including World Cups and like three Champion Trophies in a row over the last 4-5 years.
A reminder that in that span Argentina won more tourneys than England in 1000 years.
The worst part is that is the best you could do. Certainly can't say anything in Football, basketball, polo, or tennis. I guess you forgot rugby, but lets face it, that is Argentina's amateur sport and we only played 3-4 tests a tear while the other tier one nations play 12-16. And still we have beaten England and otherwise kept it incredibly tight (including last RWC in spite of injuries)
Now that Argentina will begin regular international play I expect in 5-10 years (after a decade of playing the All Blacks, Springboks, and Wallabies plus the proffesionalization of the sport in Argieland itself), to simply piss on the poor english 15 on a routine basis like the other 3 southern hemisphere nations do.
It's for reasons like this that people consider you folks to be utterly disgusting, completely shameless and morally-vacuous toads.
You can get back to trying to distract people from the topic now.
1. Keep the Falklands British -
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2. Falklands Forever British
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3. We Will Never Surrender the Falklands
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Join the growing cause to protect the Falklands from Argentine aggression!
Malvinas are Argentina!! I found this link for you, enjoy!!
Homenaje a los caídos y ex combatientes de Malvinas
www.youtube.com
You will find every newspaper and tv station in the UK has been reporting an Argentine runing up and down a WAR MEMORIAL in a FLAGRANT INSULT to BRITISH WAR DEAD!
FAIL ARGENTINA you are just a bunch of indocrinated sheep following your leader who is using a foregin enemy as a mean to distract you all from the WORLDS second highest inflation rates and an almost certain pending defalt.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article4295654.ece
On the 30th Anniversary of an invasion of the Falkland Islands by a fascist Argentine military regime, with the deaths of tens of thousands of their own people on their hands, in a violation of international soverignty and United Nations Charter, this advert is a pathetic statement and a testimont to the crass nature of the Kirchiner regime!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pB57lhPlk&feature=youtu.be&skipcontrinter=1
Speaking only for myself, as an Argentine I am absolutely ashamed of my Government for having made this despicable film. Please don't blame the Argentine people for this, we really are not that crass.
“The Sun” says (and the Turnips parrot):
ARGENTINA sparked outrage last night after running a TV advert showing an Argie Olympian doing step-ups on a British War Memorial to our fallen heroes in the Falklands.
I say:
The Monument in question is NOT a “British War Memorial to any fallen heroes in the Falklands”
The monument in question is a WWI *VICTORY* monument, as clearly chiseled on its granite:
“VICTORY”
It’s written on top……..and then it continues……:
“IN COMMEMORATION OF THE BATTLE OF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS FOUGHT ON THE 8th DAY OF DECEMBER 1914”……
When a British Victory over their German Cousins……….:
“SAVED THIS COLONY FROM CAPTURE BY THE ENEMY”
No mention of no “FALLEN HEROES”................., nowhere.
yellowairplane.com/adventures/falkland_islands_war_guestbook/Falkands_War_Malvinas_War_Photos/Adam_Coleman_Battle_of_the_Falkland_Islands_Memorial.jpg
Anglo Turnips….., try to inform yourself before displaying your false indignation and your authentic ignorance ……
Brainwash anybody?
Don't mention it............
Since when is an Olympic athlete doing some pulse enhancing step aerobics on the granite steps of the platform of a chest beating victory monument commemorating a fratricidal battle of a fratricidal war being disrespectful?
Stop the whining…............. Stop being pathetic….
If you read @51 you would know that you have both allowed yourselves to be duped by Argentine propaganda.
#76 At least we agree on one thing - the Sun is definately one of the worst papers on the planet. And its gunning for Cristina today =) Not to let the Argentines off the hook entirely as they have Clarin, but at least Cristina's dealing with them....
Please, excuse me for having “recycled” your words...: “Chest Beating Victory” Memorial” in some other threads without your permission.....
They perfectly summarize the only meaning that Monument has...
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Misiones and Formosa Provinces are provinces of Argentina that were seized and annaxed by Argentina from Paraguay this page is dedicated to address Argentine hyporcacy and ensuring their return to Paraguay.
As per 46
You have grown up to be duped by propaganda started by Peron in the 50's and carried on successfully be the present Nazi comedy politburo of CFK and Co.
How does this feel?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17963577
www.facebook.com/pages/We-must-kick-argentina-out-of-the-2012-olympics-over-the-falklands/379501375425310
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WPP boss 'appalled' by ad made by one of his agencies, featuring Argentinian training on war memorial in Falklands.
Sir Martin Sorrell has condemned one of his advertising agencies for creating a TV commercial featuring an Argentinian Olympic athlete training on a war memorial on the Falkland Islands and called for it to be taken off air.
Sorrell, the chief executive of the world's largest marketing group WPP, said he was appalled by the campaign and that his subsidiary had called for the Argentinian government to ban the commercial.
The TV ad was secretly filmed on the Falkand Islands by WPP-owned Y&R Buenos Aires and features hockey player Fernando Zylberberg training at British landmarks with the strapline, “To compete on English soil, we train on Argentinian soil”.
In the ad, Zylberberg is shown frowning at a Union flag, running past Falkland Island landmarks, such as the Globe Tavern pub, the offices of newspaper Penguin News and a red telephone box, and doing step-ups on a first world war memorial....
You stupid pathetic little prick.
It's a war memorial. Where were you in 1982? Sitting on your couch wanking over pictures of your flag.
You have no idea about war, you pontificate on here as a fake interlectual but what you are in fact is a fanatical nationalists who wants to impose his nations soverignty over someone lse. If you feel so strongly about it you would get up off your couch and do something about it rather than trolling Merco press. The fact is your probably about 4 stone over weight and aging. You expect others to fight your wars. You're a coward. You want to take other peoples land and you want others to do it for you and you engade in whipping up retoric along with your government, the Malvinista's and all the other right and left wing hate groups that have popped up around the issue and CFK.
It's rather pathetic and you know it.
On the 30th Anniversary of a war of aggression waged by a fascist military junta, invading small peaceful islands, in violation of international soverignty, the will of the people and United Nations your country is still whipping up hatred and claiming other peoples land.
It will not work, the numbers of people anti-Argentina in the UK and elsewhere grows every day while you own government scurrys through the rat infested gutters for support from people like you.
'As usual, it is about the papers again.
The men, mostly those white men — also again, also as usual — have official papers upon which they have written their rules and their laws and their treaties. They are very sorry, but it is all there on the papers.
The Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy have papers, too, but those are no good. It is a shame and everyone is very sorry, but those papers are meaningless. Please stop showing us your quaint, useless papers.'
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Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
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