Tuesday, August 21st 2012 - 05:21 UTC

Ecuador ready for dialogue with UK, but with eyes on Friday’s OAS meeting

The Ecuadorean government reiterated on Monday that dialogue with UK on the Julian Assange case will continue once London officially “withdraws” the original message with threats. Quito also is hopeful that the coming OAS extraordinary meeting will ratify full support for Ecuador as has happened with other regional organizations.

Minister Patiño willing to talk but….what about threats?

Foreign Secretary William Hague promises no safe-conduct for Assange

ALBA and Unasur member countries support Ecuador

Foreign minister Ricardo Patiño made the statement following on PM David Cameron’s spokesperson confirmation that London is willing to reach a diplomatic solution to the conflict, but reiterating that there will be no safe conduct for the Wikileaks founder, currently living in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he was granted political asylum.

“Currently the threat is pending: we received that communication but we have not received one cancelling it”, said Patiño. The Ecuadorean official insists that last Wednesday it received a written communication warning on the possibility of an action against the embassy with the purpose of arresting Assange, whose Wikileaks has filtered thousands of official governments’ secrets mainly from the US.

Assange however is requested from Sweden to face charges of alleged rape, which he strongly denies.

The written piece which the Ecuadorian government considers threatening, and to which the British government never refers, was strongly condemned by the ALBA group (Bolivarian Alliance for our America), brain child of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez and Unasur, Union of South American Nations, created by the Brazilian diplomacy as a regional defence forum, over the weekend in Guayaquil.

With the written support from 17 nations of the region (Unasur plus Alba) among which Ecuador, the Ecuadorean government is now looking to Washington where next Friday the Foreign ministers from the Organization of American States, OAS, will be holding an extraordinary meeting.

“We know of the limitations of OAS, the complications regarding its stance in some cases not so long ago, but we are convinced that in a case as this, it is indispensable that there is a solid reaction, not for us but for OAS which must state unequivocally that one of its members has been threatened” pointed out Patiño to a local television channel.

The Ecuadorean representative before OAS, Maria Isabel Salvador said from Washington that she was already working on the “practical sides of the issue”

The OAS Permanent council must first agree on the agenda for the ministerial meeting on Friday based on the resolution proposed by Ecuador and approved last Friday during an extraordinary session with 23 votes in favour and three against, US, Canada and Trinidad Tobago.

The resolution calls on Foreign ministers to address the situation between Ecuador and the UK regarding the inviolability of Ecuador diplomatic premises in the UK, protected by international law.

The OAS Permanent Council must also agree on the rules for the meeting which demands among other things that al least two thirds of Foreign ministers or special delegates are present for the consultation meeting to go ahead.

Patiño said that if it is not possible to reach a dialogue on the safe conduct for Assange, Ecuador will refer the case to international courts, but would prefer dialogue with London because, for example, the International Court of Justice of The Hague takes a “long time”.

The Ecuadorean authorities and the Australian born whistle-blower fear the possibility that Assange might end in the US where he could be trialled for high treason and espionage and receive serious punishment or even the death penalty.
 

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1 Gordo1 (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:07 am Report abuse
Ecuador will change it's pompous posturing as soon as the European Union countries and the US announce that they will suspend all imports of flowers, bananas and cultivated shrimp until Assange is handed over to the British authorities for extradition to Sweden.
2 Guzz (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:21 am Report abuse
Threats to storm an embassy in order to send an alleged sexual offender to “justice”. If you lot spent half the effort to send prooven murderers and human rights abusers as Bush and Blair to justice, people would actually believe you...
3 Frank (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:22 am Report abuse
'Alleged' threats Guzzo.... the British simply suggested they could terminate the Ecuadorian lease......
4 LEPRecon (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:31 am Report abuse
Ecuador, the bully, is afraid of the big bad UK and is desperately trying to get its 'friends' to back them up.

The OAS will do nothing, just like Unasur did nothing. Issuing a few meaningless phrases that won't help Ecuador a all.

Poor Correa. Stuck with Assange, and now has embarrassed the world by claiming he supports rapists and that rape isn't illegal in his country. He did say the whole of south America, but I don't believe he has the right to speak for the rest of the countries in that region.

If the rest of South America had any common sense they would just claim neutrality and leave Correa to dig his own political demise.

However, Assange is safely locked in the Ecuadorian embassy. Eventually they'll get fed up of him and boot him out of the door.

It's just a matter of time.
5 Guzz (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:38 am Report abuse
Lep
UK isn't big, it's getting smaller and smaller for every time you show your faces in the international scene :)
Pay your debts and imprison your criminals before you check on the other side of your borders.
6 Frank (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:03 am Report abuse
@4 'However, Assange is safely locked in the Ecuadorian embassy. Eventually they'll get fed up of him and boot him out of the door.'.....

that will probably happen when he tries to pin a tail on the ambassador's secretary....
7 Idlehands (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:28 am Report abuse
I don't believe we should bother doing anything about this. If Assange wants to stay in the embassy then let him. This is a legal matter that they are trying to turn into a diplomatic matter. We should simply restate the position that if and when he comes out he will be arrested. What is the point of arguing with Ecuador over him? There are far more important things going on in the world than Assange.
8 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:41 am Report abuse
3 Frank (#)
Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:22 am

Frank, ignore the throbbing tool. He is like a kid in a toyshop, a dog with a bone or a fly with a pile of shit. Him and the rest of the Malvinistas will be feeding off this for months.

You can't trust a latino it seems. Let's have a private meeting to hammer out all of the options says we.....

Okay says Ecuador. Lets.....

Here are our options. Says we......

Ecuadorians say okay we will have a look at them....

But not to study the feasibility of any of the confidential proposals but to mine for political ammunition to score points from.

Clearly we cannot trust them to act diplomatically. They understand simple childlike politics but diplomacy seems to be beyond them. As is trust. We need to note this down and until they learn to behave like diplomats and grown ups we must stop talking to them completely at the diplomatic level. They don't understand the meaning of the word and they obviously think that rape is a minor charge. Nice.

Furthermore, whatever they 'demand', we tell then to spin on it.

Julian Assange will either spend the rest of his life in the Ecuadorian embassy or he will be arrested on the way to the airport. The choice is now with him and Ecuador. I am sure they are perfect for each other.
9 grimbler (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 09:25 am Report abuse
@8 Superb summation really well put!
10 HansNiesund (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 09:38 am Report abuse
Private Eye: Assange accuses Britain of attempted entry without consent.

twitter.com/helenlewis/status/237833752829648896/photo/1
11 Lord Ton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 09:40 am Report abuse
Why do the tin-pot dictatorships and banana Republics in SA think that they are SERIOUS nations. The only true democracy there is Uruguay. Poor little Uruguay - surrounded by wannabe nations!
12 Be serious (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:17 am Report abuse
Assange is in no rush, he's got himself a nice Ecuadorian girlfriend, to keep him warm over the long British Winter that is approaching.
13 ElaineB (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:21 am Report abuse
@11 Oh, I would say Chile is a pretty well run country and a democracy.

It is true Assange accused the police of attempted entry to the couple of rooms that make up the Ecuador Embassy. What he actually heard was the police changing shifts and policing the common areas of the building. But then again he is prone to misinterpretation. He thinks no means yes.
14 Lord Ton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:38 am Report abuse
#13 - Glad to hear it - which leaves how many ??
15 PirateLove (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:46 am Report abuse
@13 he has no proof of any police entry, if they wanted in, they would have gone in, hes paranoid and full of sh1t, im sure he will fit into ecuador very well, but theres a little matter of a rape case he has to attend first, until then its house arrest for the rapist,
when you have george gallaway on your side you know your fooked.
16 Clyde15 (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:51 am Report abuse
#5
I was amazed to hear you say Britain is getting smaller. Have the polar icecaps finally melted ? When I drove back home from Peterborough on Sunday the distance covered was 397 miles - exactly the same as last year.
As to imprison your criminals, thank you for your unbiased advice.
In the case of Mr. Assange, that is exactly what we are trying to do !
17 HansNiesund (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 11:02 am Report abuse
@13 @15
Assange accusing the Brits of, ahem, entry without consent. It's a joke, folks.
18 ElaineB (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 11:04 am Report abuse
@17 *big smile*
19 Musky (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 11:41 am Report abuse
Lord Assange... the leading light in truth and freedom of speech, but to quote Monty Python:

“he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy'”
20 EnginnerAbroad (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:09 pm Report abuse
@19 thats exacly what one of the US newspapers said the whole balcony speach reminded them off. They expected the Ecudorian Ambasador to step out and use those exact Monty Python lines.
21 CJvR (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:34 pm Report abuse
Dialogue?

Just what is there left to talk about?
22 ElaineB (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
I guess the Ecuador diplomats will want to try to find a way out of this without looking impotent. They can't get Assange out of the embassy and I doubt they want him there.
23 Welsh Wizard (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 01:14 pm Report abuse
@22

Yup, at some point someone will sit JA down and tell him that he needs to re-think his position, they will tell him that Sweden isn't that bad after all and that, if the US wanted to extradite him, they would already have tried when he was in the UK. They may even remind him that the girls are very pretty in Sweden...
24 ElaineB (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 01:25 pm Report abuse
Who said this “Let me tell you, I think that Julian Assange's personal sexual behaviour is sordid, disgusting, and I condemn it,” ?

Answer: Another egotistical narcissist looking for attention. They make a good pair.
25 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
Maybe this pair can find solace with JA and asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy with high profile support from George Galloway for this example of 'bad sexual etiquette'. I am sure that Ecuador will happily accommodate them, after all it isn't called rape in Ecuador. Just happy people having a good time, why should we persecute them?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19330927
26 reality check (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
Sky news just did a piece on Galloways Podcast, the man is off his head. Hey! Julian, you got room in there for another camp bed. I have a feeling a friend of yours might be needing it.”
27 Musky (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
@26 rc
Nice one.
GG has always been a lemon. Can't see him keeping his seat the next election
28 PirateLove (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
@27 GG hes bordering insane, rape is not rape (WTF) what does he call it then “the norm”? very disturbing, but not uncommon bull from the islamic leader of the north.
29 Condorito (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
The US put pressure on Ecuador about 3 mins ago and all of a sudden they want dialogue.

I can see some frantic back pedalling coming from Ecuador very soon as Correa realises what a dim-witted stance he has taken.
30 cLOHO (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 05:44 pm Report abuse
Storm in a teacup, Argenweena will jump on this like any other news coverage to spout lies about the Falklands...two tinpot countries desparate for someone to listen to them, like a naughty child in school who's bad behaviour is the only way to gain adult attention.
31 yankeeboy (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
Correa is a Chavez wanna be with no oil money. I doubt most people in UK EU USA could point out that piss-ant country on a map, Gads what an embarrassment. I am so sick of how uppity these maids and gardeners are becoming!
USA UK should just shut down their trade until they acquiesce and then make them grovel to re-start it.
What a waste of time money and effort for a scumbag blogger.
32 Britworker (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
I think before all this is finished, Ecuador will rue the day they got involved. They saw an oppurtunity to have a dig at the UK and US and it will backfire on them spectacularly. I'm very intersted to hear what happens on Friday, will we see union or the more sensible amongst them begin to say to Ecuador “this one is yours mate”. I note from the last meeting the culmination was a request for dialogue - big whoop! I bet that got the foreign office worried.
33 Martin Woodhead (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
Evil guinea pig eaters grrr Burn
34 briton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
ecuador

one word,[F.O.]
35 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
@34 briton (#)
Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:38 pm

That is two words but I catch you drift.
36 Conqueror (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
@2 Here's a thought, Guzzo. What happens when Assange is “spirited” from the Ecuadorian “place” to an airfield? He boards an Ecuadorian aircraft that takes off. And then has its wings shot off by some RAF Typhoons? Oops.
@5 Thousands of times “bigger” than your sh*theap.
@11 Be serious. Chile. The rest are faggots or queers, or both.
37 briton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
35,
Thanks.
36,
Ecuador is a long long way away,
Anything could happen ,
After all, accidents do happen, do they not.
38 Guzz (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
conqueror
Stop the self-flattering, your crap is not a product of a thought, its the backlash of a cumpulsive and irrational typing behaviour...
39 LEPRecon (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
Here's my conspiracy theory. Feel free to spread it as far and as wide as you wish.

”Assange is actually in the pay of the US government. His job is it undermine the credibility of wikileaks, whilst at the same time taking down the government of Ecuador. If he's successful there he'll move on to Venezula and then the rest of South America.

He has (allegedly) been paid a 6 figure sum to do this and been granted immunity from prosecution.”

I mean it must be true, because sooner or later Assange will end up in Sweden. The US will amaze the world by not extraditing him, which will undermine his credibility, and by proxy, wikileaks credibility. It will also undermine the government of Correa, and the rest of the South American countries who are stupid enough to jump on the band wagon.

A win-win situation for Uncle Sam. :0D
40 briton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
perhaps he is wishing that the OAS will come to his resue .
41 aussie sunshine (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:43 pm Report abuse
He is a true aussie!! doesn´t take no sh...* from anybody.
He has got that Ned Kelly spirit in him.... good on ye mate!!
42 briton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
yep, and just like old ned, he may well go the same way,

the man is a fool.
43 aussie sunshine (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:59 pm Report abuse
Better dying standing up than on your knees ....
44 briton (#) Aug 21st, 2012 - 11:10 pm Report abuse
or with your boots on.lol.
45 Frank (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 12:17 am Report abuse
@41...Kelly the Cop Killer? You really are fresh off the boat aren't you.....
46 SussieUS (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 03:02 am Report abuse
@ 44 Generic Gay Briton ....
loves all english men, regardless of nationalities!
47 vestias (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 10:05 am Report abuse
O Equador e o Reino Unido devem entrar em dialgo e também as autoridades da Suécia o mundo quere saber a verdade sobre estas acusações que as autoridades da Suécia estão a levar a cabo com o Sir. Assange
48 Clyde15 (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
#47
Translation please !!!! This is supposed to be an English language site.
49 Guzz (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
“Ecuador and UK needs to enter in dialogue and also Swedens authorities, the world wants to know the truth about these accusations that the authorities in Sweden are putting forward to Mr Assange”
50 aussie sunshine (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
*45 nope just a republican..good old Ned.
51 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
@32

So what you are saying is that the UK does not respect small countries like Ecuador because they are not threat. Because they are no threat, they have no right to disagree with you.

This in essense is the typical mentality. No respect for the small, and then they want respect back, jajaja.

Good for Ecuador.
52 briton (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
46 if you were that pretty, you would post it on line,
instead of stalking the brits,

We know we are the best, so you support is welcome but not needed,
thanks.
53 Clyde15 (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
#51
No respect for the small----Falklands
They want respect back-----Argentine
I am glad we agree on this !
54 SussieUS (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
@ 52 Generic Gay Briton
......those words sound from Conor Louden-Brown,,,,,,,,/////
Hey,...... Generic Gay Briton kicked the bucket!....I support death for all UK men!!!!!!
55 briton (#) Aug 22nd, 2012 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
im not a man, [your assumption]
and that then makes you a femal pervert.

sussy love women, brit are the best,
argie women are slippery and that goes for the rest,

give it sussy your been exposedlolol.
56 Conor (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 12:54 am Report abuse
@55
Briton just ignore her and shell dissolve into a puddle of Daigo bastard piss.
57 SussieUS (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 01:40 am
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58 Hepatia (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 08:43 am Report abuse
en.mercopress.com/2012/08/21/ecuador-ready-for-dialogue-with-uk-but-with-eyes-on-friday-s-oas-meeting#comment155552: I think that you will find that the Federal Republic will not allow the EU to apply any sort of trade embargo against Ecuador.

Why you think that the US would embargo Ecuador I do not understand - unless you think that the US plans to extradite Assange. Is that what you think?
59 briton (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
she has a bad influence on us,
she has forced me to reply on other bloggs discusting thins,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
she is evil and a satonist,
and keep trying to stick her fork everywhere,
you are right i should ignore her,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
so i am off for a week later, for R&R,
yipeeeeeeeeeee,
and when i get back, this evil person will be a thing of the past,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
thank you [56]
i will ignore her now,
she is just to evil .
thanks
60 SussieUS (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 05:24 pm
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61 British_Kirchnerist (#) Aug 23rd, 2012 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
#27 He's got a 10,000 majority, 56% of the vote, and no credible Labour challenger, so I think he's got every chance of keeping his seat. In fact his strong position reminds me of another heroic left politician...
62 DanyBerger (#) Aug 24th, 2012 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
A SA trade embargo on Britain until they formally apologise to Ecuador for their uncivilised behaviour will simply be more effective.
63 reality check (#) Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
A SA trade embargo against a member of the EU. Now that makes sense, whoops, but what about the other 26 member states?
64 Clyde15 (#) Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:21 pm Report abuse
#62
I agree. S.A . is more trouble than it is worth - of course, that will have to apply to the EU also. Should Brazil return the three naval vessels it ordered from Bae or cancel parts for its aircraft from Rolls Royce, etc. etc.
As a quid pro quo, we could return all the bananas we bought from Ecuador
What a comedian you are Dany. I have missed your postings recently.
How about ARGENTINA apologizing to the UN for the crap and lies spouted by Mr. Timerman/woman.
65 DanyBerger (#) Aug 25th, 2012 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
@Clyde15

EU is the second largest trading partner of SA and slowly is being replaced by China who will displace EU as second largest trade partner.

Latam GDP 6.3 trillions in PPP and in USD 5.2 trillions.

Don’t worry Clyde I guess the yanks from GE and the Russians will more than happy to see RR out of business in SA.

SYL.
66 Clyde15 (#) Aug 26th, 2012 - 04:03 pm Report abuse
#65
They may well be happy but could they produce a better product - certainly not Russia.
Anyway, S.A. will be governed by China in about 30 years. They will need somewhere to put their excess population. Argentina could hold about 200 million Chinese no bother. They may even do something useful with the place !
67 DanyBerger (#) Aug 27th, 2012 - 06:51 am Report abuse
@Clyde15
Aviadvigatel PS-90A
68 Clyde15 (#) Aug 27th, 2012 - 05:24 pm Report abuse
#67
If this engine is better than anything RR, GE or PW produce then why are the world's airlines and aircraft manufacturers not rushing to install them in their aircraft - present and future ?

You are talking about comparing an engine -the RB211 - designed in 1972, with which the Russians have now caught up !
The Aviadvigatel may be an excellent engine but airlines like to stick with proven companies with a good track record of reliability and service. Also, you cannot just lift an engine and fit it to an aircraft.
There has to be work done on the cowling, fuel control systems and ancillary items for repair and maintenance which add greatly to the initial cost.
Just for your info., RR supply 500 airlines, 4000 corporate cos. 160 armed forces, 4,000 marine customers and 70 navies with their products. Some one must think they make a good product.

I am sure that the whole of LA would remove all UK parts and components from all aircraft, ships, power stations etc. for solidarity
with Ecuador.
I'm sure that Chile would be more than happy to agree to this and mothball its fleet.

Anyway, this discussion is pointless. We are just nipping away at each other to pass the time. Whatever our pronouncements are, they will have absolutely no effect on what our respective political leaders decide.

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