Wednesday, September 19th 2012 - 06:22 UTC

Argentina Paypal-users activities limited to international payments

Paypal is to prevent users in Argentina from transferring money between their own accounts. The online payment service said that from 9 October: “Argentina resident Paypal-users may only send and receive international payments.”

The US dollar an ever more scarce asset in Argentina

Last year the Argentine government announced restrictions on the purchase of US dollars. It has led to an increase in currency sales on the black market - but Paypal's exchange rates are better.

Locals were setting up two accounts under different email addresses and transferring money between the two, exchanging local currency pesos for dollars in the process.

Under the new rules only one account per person can be registered within Argentina.

The government's rules were designed to curb the flight of savings from the country and make the economy less dependent on the US dollar.

Since the rules were introduced in November 2011, Paypal has been used as an alternative means of obtaining the US currency close to the official exchange rate, which currently stands at about 4.7 pesos per dollar.

That is much cheaper than the rate on the black market where one dollar costs about 6.3 pesos.

Argentina suffers a high inflation rate - private economists say prices are increasing by about 24% a year. This adds to a general lack of confidence in the local currency caused by memories of its depreciation during the economic crisis of 2001.

Many residents have tried to protect their savings against the risk of further turmoil by putting the money into more stable currencies.

Economist Eduardo Marty told the BBC that currency restrictions had been extended to all economic activities, from the export of goods to foreign travel.

“You have to apply for permission to import any goods,” he said.

“If you need to travel abroad the government gives you a meagre amount of money. Sometimes they approve it at the last moment and people are forced to buy on the black market.”

In September the government established a new 15% tax on all purchases made abroad, affecting credit cards and purchases made on international websites like Amazon and eBay, and transactions made on Paypal.

Following local media coverage about complaints over constraints to the Paypal service, the company acknowledged that the blockades were imposed by local banks.

In a statement sent to the BBC, Paypal apologised for the “inconvenience” the decision may cause.
“Argentina is a very important market to us as we expand our global footprint, and we are currently very focused on providing Argentine merchants and consumers the best possible service.

”Paypal customers in Argentina are still able to utilise Paypal for international transactions with 190 markets around the world,” said the company.
 

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1 Britworker (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:04 am Report abuse
They could invest in the Pound Sterling, after all, you sent YPF with their begging bowl to London, we know you are desperate people with no shame!
2 briton (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:57 am Report abuse
They insult us,
Then use the begging bowl.

Hypercrit or what .

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3 Idlehands (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:02 am Report abuse
They'll be introducing a “Flushing Tax” next.
4 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:21 am Report abuse
Sick of it all.
Glad i can still use it to buy from the internet.
5 Alexei (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 01:00 pm Report abuse
PayPal's really handy. I imagine you can use it in the Falkland Islands, and everywhere else in the civilised world.
6 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 01:57 pm Report abuse
They are really combing the bread crumbs now.
7 EnginnerAbroad (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:07 pm Report abuse
All, reamber though that although you can use Paypal for foreign transactions as they are foreign using your Argentine registered card will mean an advance income tax of 15% will be applied.
8 British_Kirchnerist (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
Good measures in this time of attack by the IMF etc
9 yankeeboy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:33 pm Report abuse
BK, you are p a t h e t i c. What do you do for work? Care to explain how requiring Argentina to live up to its agreements is attacking?

Love to hear that one!
10 Tabutos (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
keep oppressing you people Argentina, prove how much you can be different to the Falklands.

hope they wake up soon. the people of Argentina have not woken to the crimes there government puts them though
11 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
The RG government may need to get a tin cup and they can hit the cars at Kenmore Square for spare chnage.....lol
12 Tobers (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
@EngineerAbroad

Do you know what this mean for the 100 oo0's of expats in Argentina who want to buy stuff thru Paypal linked to a NON Argentine account?

I guess they-ll still get stung at customs when they have to declare the value of the imported item and prove how they paid for it.
13 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
Shoulnot matter if they still have a credit or debit card linked to an American bank
14 Tobers (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
You say it shouldnt matter but this is Argentina we are talking about!
15 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
Amercian banks will not be obligated to report purchases to argentina, they can only exert that on banks in argentina. I am not an expat a twice yearly visitor. I hope I can still use mine....I shall soon find out.
16 yankeeboy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
Don't assume you will be able to use your credit card. When I lived there through the last implosion barely any place would take them only the big hotels. So be careful.
17 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 05:55 pm Report abuse
They did in February, but then again a lot has changed since then.
18 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
Cool now we can open Our own pago amigo in Argentina, with no pay pal we can start our own Internet payments using an Argentine company. Getting rid of the dollars is getting easter and easter. I think a gold coin currency will help us get rid of dollars much faster. Gold currency for Argentina now......we love CFK.
19 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
Sure and the gold is getting easter and easter......where's the easter bunny?
20 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
We have lots of gold in San Juan Argentina we can even start our own gold currency if The english from barrick don't theft it all and leave us like the english did in Africa where gold is the reason for anarchist to destroy the industry and support terrorists, institutional theft and anarchy.
21 Fido Dido (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
Argentines, use BITCOIN.

folks, check it out...Bitcoin is invisible/untraceable money.
You can even buy gold and silver with them..;)...and pay no TAX (duh, it's invisible/untreable)
maxkeiser.com: understanding bitcoin security, Trace Mayer interviewed by visionvictor.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtN9YUvh_XM&feature=player_embedded
22 briton (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
20 Pirat-Hunter [you said it]
1, We have lots of gold in San Juan Argentina we can even start our own gold currency

then,
2, gold is the reason for anarchist to destroy the industry and support terrorists, institutional theft and anarchy.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
hangmans rope for sale,
hangmans rope for sale,
only 2 bits of gold .lol.
23 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
A gold currency will put an end to all the BS. We have lots of gold in San Juan Argentina and I am sure we can turn the gold into a Argentine currency anything short of a good. Currency is just another way for banks to theft Argentina's resources. I doubt anyone in the world will refuse payments in gold.
24 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:42 pm Report abuse
Bitcoin is a PoS.
Thankfully i managed to make some purchases through Paypal today.
You can shove your shitty restriction up your ass..
25 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
10 Tabutos

Exactly!! I hope they wake up soon!! before KFC ruins their country for ever
26 ProRG_American (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
If you are so sensitive to investing in YPF don't do so. Mr Galuccio has many friends in anLondon d he would like to give them a break at the immense fortunes to be made. Mr. Galuccio is only stopping by for a few hours though, so if you're interested, don't miss the boat. Too good to pass up. Else, there are takers in other places.
27 Santa Fe (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
Glug Glug Glug, that's not maximo drinking milkshake, that's the RG economy sinking jajajajajaj
28 Fido Dido (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:50 pm Report abuse
Bitcoin is a PoS, Thankfully i managed to make some purchases through Paypal today.

Shows you have no clue of what you're talking about. Pieter Thiel is proud of idiots like you.
29 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
I think anyone who waste Argentina's wealth in another country should pay 50% taxes. As we pay in Canada when we import. The truth is simple there are taxes we must pay anywhere we go why do the english make such a big problem in Argentina??? Because we let them that simple, because they are killing muslim women and children all the time all over the planet and yet we read this garbage about Argentina,you can all see the lack of values and consistency in their reporting, I like the fee is long over due. People here need to travel more and leave politics to real politicians, if you import anything into Argentina I demand you be treated as I am treated outside Argentina, pay taxes damn you all, I pay them.
30 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
Seems the BCRA reserves are a lot less then lead to believe. There was a total of just 500 billion in reserves (pesos) of which 16% was foreign funds......roughly 80 billion pesos or 17.4 billion DOLLARS. unfortunately 14%, 70 billion pesos...15.2 billion dollars were pegged as credit deposits.....not their money. Reality is that they only had 2.2 billion in December 2011. while they made some money in surplus, they also paid those bonds. They really have no international funds in reserves.
WTF does killing muslims have to do with this. Besides.....they wanted to fight the western world........the western world decided to bring it back to them. The politicians should unleash the full force of the military and make that sand bowl....a glass bowl.
31 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
“the western world decided to bring it back to them. The politicians should unleash the full force of the military and make that sand bowl....a glass bowl.”

And then you wonder why the “non-western” world is mass-weaponizing and fast.

I'd say Iran get nukes, and Israel make public that they do. Then everyone else get nukes.

The world is most peaceful it's been proven when all sides can annihilate the other. Which is why since the fall of the Soviets the world has been much more unstable and violent.
32 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
#31 I agree with you 100% MAD or mutually assured destruction helped everyone.
Argentina should build their own nukes to protect the main land from British occupation, as we have Malvinas Argentina under illegal occupation already, we need to use the excuse to arm ourselves in South America.
33 yankeeboy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
The USA and Brazil would NEVER let Argentina have nukes. Never.
34 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:19 pm Report abuse
Forget nukes. That's for loser countries who have a small penis so they need to compensate. Like the petite women who you see driving utilitarians or getting big hair cuts.
35 yankeeboy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:24 pm Report abuse
I am sure Japan thinks the same..
36 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:27 pm Report abuse
Japan doesn't have nukes.
37 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:56 pm Report abuse
since mom took troll off her tits.....now he's measuring penis'
38 yankeeboy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:34 pm Report abuse
I hope he can sell that large member because he is not going to get by on his small brains and big mouth.

In Argentina they call them Taxi Boys
39 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:21 am Report abuse
#33 lol I didn't say Argentina will be asking USA or Brazil to have nukes I said, Iran and Argentine should build their own nuclear defence program, USA couldn't even stop north Korea from building their own nuclear defence program, besides self determination in Argentina dictates that no country can have a say in Argentina but Argentine themselves. Unless international laws are made only for white people, racist bastards have no say in it, do us a favor and lead by example not by lies and bias attitudes. We can make up our own mind in Argentina, thanks but no thanks. I pay taxes in Canada and I am Argentine I expect every Argentine to pay as well. There is no way around it, I wish Barrick gold payed 25% for mining rights as theyndo in Canada, maybe you will like to comment on that.
40 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 01:26 am Report abuse
Why do you live in Canada if argentina is so grand? Nuclear defense is a dream for you, not argentina, they signed a no prolif treaty. RG expects people to eat well for 6 pesos a day, they can't develop and army let alone a nuclear defense. And if they did, they sorrow they would inflect on their people would be unimaginable. Stay warm this winter
41 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 04:06 am Report abuse
@28

Typical, you have no valid arguments so you resort to insult people, but i guess its a regular thing of you malvinistas and KKs to discredit other people regardless of their opinion.

Bitcoin is useless for me, i can't use it anywhere i buy my products.
42 KretinaK (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 04:33 am Report abuse
Make sure the whole world sees this video exposed CFK - the turkey scrotum neck president for what she is!.......www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
43 The Cestrian (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse
How desperate must RG Land be to do this? They must be absolutely skint. Talk about micro management of the economy, this is it. Laughable.
44 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 10:20 am Report abuse
Democracy in action they argentine way.
45 Trunce (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 10:45 am Report abuse
@4

“Glad i can still use it to buy from the internet.”

You can for now, but with Fat Chavs best friend Ahmadinanutjob wanting to cosy up to RG, things may change.

At least RG’s will be able to read what makes em’ happy when Argipedia replaces Wiki.

www.businessinsider.com/iran-plans-to-stop-using-the-internet-by-2013-2012-8
46 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 11:43 am Report abuse
@45
There's always a workaround for that kind of stuff. ;)
47 briton (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 01:16 pm Report abuse
are some saying that argentina and Iran should become best friends,

very interesting,
as women have no rights or possision in Iran, where does this leave poor old CFK ,
walking six steps behind, bowing to her master,
...............
nah it would not work,
CFK would be much better served if she exbanded her dream empire over the spannish,
and get an argentine foot hold in Europe,
now that will make her indocronought happy,

then the pirate and the rest can live in spain.
48 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:15 am Report abuse
@29 P-hunter

real name ALEX VARGAS

“I think anyone who waste Argentina's wealth in another country should pay 50% taxes. As we pay in Canada when we import.”

ABsolute tripe!!

“ the english make such a big problem in Argentina??? Because we let them that simple, because they are killing muslim women and children all the time all over the planet and yet we read this garbage about Argentina,”

You are RANTING absolute nonsense that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ARGENTINA

“ if you import anything into Argentina I demand you be treated as I am treated outside Argentina, pay taxes damn you all, I pay them!”

LOL, you ARE an angry little kid aren't you.

Meanwhile, we laugh at you.

'Poor little me' , you cry.
While you live in the comfort of Mummy and Daddy's home in Canada, then you wish hardship on your “fellow” Argentinians, by their own corrupt government.

You reference everything to Canada, I'm sure you know nothing else.

You CANNOT travel to Argentina - you have already stated that, previously.

You obviously do not have a passport to travel, or you cannot get back into Canada if you leave.
Perhaps you have a criminal record??

I can tell the other users reading these posts that you make up taxation stats only to suit yourself.

I can tell them too, that your information posted about Canada is usually incomplete and misleading, if not completely wrong or irrelevant.

In fact - YOU are irrelevant.

Even “pgerman”, the Malvinista in Vancouver, calls you an ignorant kid and “intellectually dishonest”.

That's being kind.

Now, go complain elsewhere.
49 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 02:29 am Report abuse
Troy PH is an angry little boy and I bet he's a well behaved child in his new homeland.
50 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 05:16 am Report abuse
Think again.

His noble deeds for World Peace include shoplifting and vandalism.
51 briton (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:06 am Report abuse
P/H
Hides in safety
Whilst his beloved Argentina goes to hell,
Very convenient ..
52 KretinaK (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
Thursday Sept. 27th scrotum neck is going to give a speech at Harvard University!! Argentine and pr0-democratic students have totally trashed her on the website announcing her appearance and are planning a protest - bananas in hand - when she speaks.......forum.iop.harvard.edu/content/public-address-her-excellency-cristina-fern%C3%A1ndez-de-kirchner-president-argentina
53 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
It should make for entertaining TV when she is asked why they lie about inflation...to why she hates the working and middle class or why she has so much contempt for democracy.....or the missing money the from airlines deal........yeah.....maybe she will speak then run out. She will look like even a bigger fool and idiot.
54 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
The invitation plays to her vanity, but even though she is sorely tempted, she will not appear.

CFK would be wise to be afraid of historians, lawyers, academics, scholars, and other genuine debaters...

She can't risk that.

However, one hopes that while she is shopping in NYC, the Argentinian people will organise a coup, and Tango Farce One will leave the US without her.

C'mon Argues, this is your chance!

Just a suggestion.
55 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
Gee thanks Troy and leave her in my country.....no way !
56 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 23rd, 2012 - 04:50 am Report abuse
LOL - sorry Poppy.

NOBODY would want that!

Except the Thinking people of Argentina.

:-)
57 British_Kirchnerist (#) Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:43 am Report abuse
#52 Wow what a cesspit of haters that page is, worse than here! But obviously not everyone is swayed by the hysteria of the Argentine right, great to see the lovely Cristina being recognised as the international stateswoman she is at Harvard =)

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