Residents leave doors open ‘round the clock’ in crime-free Falkland Islands
By Alicia Dunkley-Willis - Keys left in ignitions, house doors left unlocked, just about one murder over the last 30 years and police officers who don't carry firearms on the beat is the nothing less than utopic reality of the Falkland Islands.Falkland Islands Governor Nigel Haywood is a willing witness.
“I don't lose my car keys because I just leave them in the ignition of the car. I don't even know where to buy a padlock for my bike, I just leave it. Admittedly, no one is going to nick the governor's bike, but actually nobody nicks anybody's bike,” he said jovially.
The 3,000-population British Overseas Territory, located in the South Atlantic Ocean, is veritably crime-free Police Chief Barry Marsden told Caribbean journalists on a tour of the Islands.
“The prison has a capacity of 10; we only have four prisoners there at the moment... the reality is, we don't have murders, we don't have robberies, we don't have prostitution, in have not come across any evidence of it,” said Marsden, who is on his first year of a three-year contract. He, however, notes that child sexual abuse was now a concern with one individual of the four serving a 13-year sentence.
”A lot of the child abuse we are investigating are historic cases (committed in the past),“ the police chief said. Local justices of the peace deal with offences such as speeding tickets, driving without seat belts and other minor offences, while the Islands supreme court and its equivalent of the resident's magistrate courts administers justice at a higher level.
It is what Marsden calls an ”interesting community“ where former prisoners when released back into society are not treated like lepers. ”There is no hostility, you will find them in the pub the same evening,“ he shared.
While there are repeat offenders, he emphasised that ”it is a very, very law-abiding society“.
As far as the eye can see in the Falklands, there is no litter, no graffiti but arm injury from repetitive waving to friendly residents might be a common medical complaint.
”People here don't ask for firearms for personal protection, they don't need it and the police officers don't carry firearms,“ he said.
However, the 25-member Falklands police force, which is supplemented by the military on a needs-be basis, use no toothless bulldog and corruption of no sort is entertained.
”We have full scenes-of-crime capacity, we can deal with anything. We have very strong border controls“ Marsden shared.
A recently released census, however, confirmed that ”alcohol is the main problem“ faced in the Falklands. A ”high percentage of islanders drink and smoke,” it said.
Last year, some 124 crimes were reported to the police compared to 149 the previous year, a 17% drop. There is an 82.7% detection or cleared-up rate. (Jamaica Observer).
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Argie yanks! don't ya jusss luvvvvv em!!!!!!!!
We did not force out any natural indegenous population as happened all over South AND North America.
Would like to clarify the crime statistics - these include things like bent car arials when parked outside the exit door of a pub at night etc! Things that elsewhere nobody would actually report as a crime! And probably speeding and drinklimit offences.
And the Police do recomend we remove our ignition keys - at least to deter a kid jumping in and accidentally starting up etc! But most of us don,t I agree!
Ignore him/her. Not qualified to comment whilst living in the home of the free and the land of the brave. Their country is so good, so admirable, so perfect. that they choose to live in some one elses. What's even worst, they also choose to call themselfs by that countries name. Pathetic hypocrits, lost the right to comment the moment they stepped off the plane!!!
“We did not force out any natural indegenous population as happened all over South AND North America.”
You did not, but the British Crown did force out the Argentine community that lived peacefully on its sovereign territory under the blue and white jack.
3 reality check (#)
“Their country is so good, so admirable, so perfect.”
Thank you, but most Americans believe that this is far from the truth. We hope and work for this every day but we have many problems and they get worst. You know this quite well since it is no secret.
I was born in the USA. I have legal rights under the Constitution and declaration of Independence, over which so much blood was spilled with sacrifice so that I would not owe allegiance to any foreign King or Queen.
”A lot of the child abuse we are investigating are historic cases (committed in the past).“ The only thing missing! condemn for future abuse! The police man is as smart as the “governor”.
Stealing a car in Malvinas, what for! This English agent .....
It always amuses me when somebody claims to speak for *most* or *all* of their country.
In one go they render anything and everything else they say as utterly without foundation and based on self-delusion.
Let's see, what is “most” of the USA... around 155,795,958 people... give or take...
How many people does this chappy know?
How many of them ahve expressed their preferences to him...?
Say it took them 5 minutes each...
that would be what?
Around 1482 years worth of talking...
Hmm... logic buffer overflow.... ¬_¬
“I was born in the USA.”
..and they taught you about Tea Parties but no maths...?
I'm shocked. ¬_¬
@7 you sound like a really bitter and jealous person! I disagree with your opinion about Falklanders. They are not colony, they are born there, its their island and IMO they are free to live their life as they want! You should learn to respect that. If you dont understand that it only shows how little and pitiful person you are.. Btw, learn the facts of the history before posting bullshit :D.
Would seem then that you do not know the words of your own national anthem.
“Of course. The thieves run the place and where would they run to”
Well said!
Malvinas, the British colony in Argentina that you can leave doors open ‘round the clock’ and 29 kilos of cocaine disappear from the police station like magic.
Oh I know! the half arsed defeated Argentine Army.
”a colony of transplanted (non native) peoples.“
You mean everybody living in the two Americas, except the few indigenous people who survived your ancestors' attempt to eradicate them.
”the British Crown did force out the Argentine community that lived peacefully on its sovereign territory under the blue and white jack. ”
Really?
Then you must be able to give us their names.
They were:
BTW what happened to all your international support? I thought the world was behind your claims!!!!
A falkland flag is still flying!!! Where is the pale blue stripes and sun??? Still folded up I guess! You wanna be watchful of moths!
Long live the prosperous, crime free falklands and all who stand to protect them!
He believes all the lies that he was taught at school, without doing any research.
They're coming out of the woodwork fast & furious now.
By God, its going to be fun to read their vitriol when the first laden oil tanker leaves FI.
1/10 for his crappy attempts. Even that one who pretends to be British does a better job.
There is no starvation of it's people and everyone has the freedom of speach and right to live as they choose. We have a democratically elected Council. No dictators here mate.
All and more of these things does seem to be the root of such bitterness in Argentina because inspite of their huge Country they have forgotton how to enjoy it.
The Falkland Islands is ranked among the top 10 places people want to come and see because of our unique lifestyle. There are very few places left in the world where nature is still in charge and a people are so hospitable. I am proud to be a part of this unique society. We must never let anyone try to destroy it through greed.
We do not need Argentina interefering because what they have to offer is nothing by comparison to what we all ready have.
You must be really high on drugs to believe we Argentines could ever possibly envy a bunch of tamed puppets like the inhabitants of Malvinas.
Argentina is a large country with all sort of landscape and nature gifts that give u the option to spend time either at the mountain, the sea, the snow, the dessert, the river or whatever you like. Just check into the rates of internal tourism when there's an extended holiday weekend. Of course, you have no clue because u live inside a bottle, a limited place like that Falklands.
Argentina has culture you all envy, amazing theatres, stadiums, night places, hotels, restaurants, spectacles.... People from all over the world come to visit our cities to enjoy our culture, our tango, our food.
Crime is not exclusive of Argentina. If you believe that, then again, you are just showing you are a very basic man, obviously raised in a limited place like the Falklands.
Not having crime would be a merit of a huge city or town, not of a place where there's nothing to do, except for getting drunk! Oh what an amazing example for society, right?
The things described in this article only tell me that Falklanders are boring people, living in a boring place. People who follow religion and the orders of a decadent Monarchy which only know how to get undressed in public.
Geeez, I didn't need to have the shocking image of Middleton's flat tits for dinner. EW!!!!
So stop that irrelevant lie please.
So you as born in USA have rights -inherited from your ancestors or those other early settlers who forced out the indigenous population!
Yet I - whose ancestors forced out no indigenous population have no rights!
You are a first class hipocrit!!!
Like so many you all go on about who did whgat to who some centuries ago- that was the way the world settled things those days!
Today, most of the civilised world has moved on somewhat into the 21st century and what matters today are PEOPLES .
That is why we will in time win and achieve our human rightsand Arg will not succeed with its Colonial land claims
Residents leave doors open ‘round the clock’ in crime-free Falkland Islands, alright…….
But they don’t dare to leave their kids alone with ”Uncle Dick” for more than a couple of minutes….
Taught by experience, I suppose……………..
Crime free, my left foot........
“Sign this e-petition”
“Build a prison on the Falkland Islands for anti-social criminals, rapists, drug dealers and the like”
:-)))))
submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/11240/signature/new
Great story... something that, yet again, the rest of the world can only look on and be jealous of.....
Typical of the Argentine posters on here that they either can't imagine or just won't believe it. Their culture is built on thieving from their nieghbours.
Still, another example of the falkands leading the way.
The only other place I've seen this in “Bowling for Columbine” by Michael Moore, anyone seen it?
He went over to Canada and went round Toronto trying doors, and there he found the same thing. Not that, it was explained to him, the Canadians liked locking themselves away, rather, they felt they would be shutting nature out..... something that he found hard to believe “having three locks on my door”.
134 robberies
14 assaults with knives
2 sexual harrasment crimes
These figures are for a small town of aprox. 10.000 inhabitants. Of course we are on the mainland so there are visiting criminals from other parts of the country/province!!!!!
@7 Usual argie lies.
@8 Have you tried eBay? You may be able to buy a second brain cell.
@12 Should we ignore the US$100 million from Sante Fe that “stuck” to Nestor's fingers? And is now in Switzerland waiting for CFK!
@24 But only in argieland could a politician suggest that poor children be fed pigeons!
@27 Who would leave a child alone with an argie? First lesson: Suck this. Second lesson: Bend over. Third lesson: Bend over and suck this while my friend shows you how much he likes you. Fourth lesson: Is it nailed down? Take it. Fifth lesson: Do you owe money? Forget it. Sixth lesson: Are you an immigrant? Are you a faggot? Welcome to argieland. Seventh lesson: Welcome to argieland. Walk round and find a dozen pieces of corrugated tin. That's home! Eighth lesson: Want an ensuite WC? Dig a ditch.
I hear ya' my friend!! certainly, leaving your door open or unlocked around here is just inviting a robbery. But still.....
Our own fair city of shottingh..... I mean Nottingham, appears as an oasis of calm in compassion to the figures you have just quoted. Still, you can't help but think that things could be so much better.
So Argentina has all these natural beuty spots etc. So tell me why do you want to interfere with our lifestyle.
It may not have occured to you but we rather like this lifestyle we have and aparently so do millions of others who have visited us over the years and actually said to us that we must never change waht we have it is unique.
Argentina could never manage to do what we have done at home . anyway if it is so boring to you why do you want to take it from us.
Oh I know so you can introduce corruption, murder, removal of yet another indigenous people. Oh yes we are indigenous to this land just like the people your lot killed to take for their own and Yes before you even try to twist it up those same indigenous people arrived in South America the same way my ancestors arrived on th eIslands. They migrated. Nothing wrong with that.
But the issue with you is not how nice or horrible our home is. You want it but you can't have it. The Falkland Islanders have acheived what many of your neighbours were unable to do , Stand up and be counted and the proof is that 180 odd years we have with the exception of your invasion in 1982 kept you firmly out.
You can argue all you want on this site but the reality is we live in the 21st century and the thinking of people has changed so get used to it you thick head.
Keep your pearls of wisdom coming Think. I love it how you discredit yourself while at the same time believe you are educated the rest of us.
I had a private bet with myself on how long it would take for Marcos to mention the cocaine and Think to remind us about the man who fell off a ship 30 odd years ago. You're a sad disappointment old chap. At least we can rely on someone.
Maybe it is Argentina, in that I would agree, but Flickwinds??
Sources please...
Please stick to the truth.....
I never mentioned “Once” or “1976”
I just mentioned the ol’ Albatross we used to water-land in front of Puerto Estanley.
(Later the F-27 at the alu strip at San Felipe and the F-28’s at Freycinet peninsula…..
….???....”Fell off a Ship”….???.....
Is that ”Vernacular” in Malvinas for “Gang Bashing of a Pom with Deadly Outcome”?
I can “sense” that you don’t wish to talk about the most common crime in Malvinas……
But, as in Pitcairn, many of you don’t even considered it a crime, just a cultural peculiarity…Right?
You are just bitter & twisted because its finally sunk into you that your incompetent country will NEVER get the Falklands.
Land that you have no legal or moral right to, anyway.
You have no proof for your accusations,
Just as your country has no proof for its ridiculous “claims”.
Must be frustrating for you lot, wanting what you can't have.
But you do not have my sympathy, just my satisfaction.
Live with it.
I’m just reacting to this piece of brainwashing propaganda describing a chronically depressed, highly alcoholized, suicidal prone, super sized, severely inbred, windblown island society of less than 2,500 troubled souls as a new Arcadia……
Otherwise you are, most certainly, a merry bunch…….
Think - you will find if you read the small print that the mephasis in underage sex is past old offences- not current today so much.
And for you info Stanley is a town where teenage girls can walk the streets in safety at night. Well execpt perhaps commonsense they probabaly avoid the front roads when the place is full of fishing boats.
Both of them??
I thought the F27 first flew into Hookers Point airstrip.
Philips point is to the South and has no air strip.
Perhaps you are still lost?
Argentine F27 planes used to land on it a tin strip built on a pile of white sand from nearbye beaches. A chillean contract gang played a key role in it's construction. Unfortunatly the wind eroded the sand from under the alloy sheets which brought about the idea of building a permanant one at Hookers point. Johnsons Construction Ltd built the new airport which later played a key role in allowing the Argentines to bring in supplies during the 82 conflict.
It was built in the mid seventies.
The aircraft that used it was porovided by Argentina and at the same time they provided a fuel and shipping service. All of which was designed to woe the Islanders. It bloody nearly worked but their patience run out in 1982 and they lost any trust we had for them after that.
I further still do not know why it is so important that Argentina continues to want our homeland when all they have to do is drop their Ilegal claim and start working with the Falkland People and be a part of system that could benifit the whole of South America.
By continuing to refuse to accept that we are a people with rights is only making the issue more impossible to resolve.
Soverignty is not up for offer now or any time in the future so squabling is pointless.
Megabid is the site of the Hookers Point Airstrip.
Cape Pembroke is the site of Stanley airport.
I thought the strip at Hookers Point was built by Rg's with some help from Islanders.
Some Chileans help build the present Air port on Cape Pembroke.
part of the 1971? Communication agreement was that the Rg's would build a temporary airstrip at Hookers Point (Megabid) and the British would build the permanent one on Cape Pembroke.
Think is correct about the old rocket assisted take-off, amphibious Albatrosses in the mid 1970s until Hookers Point became operational.
It was all part of the wooing- “we are such a nice big neighbour” policy of the 1970s - forced on us by the UK Govts of that era- whose policy then was to quietly “push” us in Argentina,s direction - luckily a drunken old army fool and a naval hardliner(only their Airforce boss came out with any credit) in 1982 caused a total reverse of UK policy - and after that trauma - we have never looked back.
42 Guzz - sorry its late at night- both of what?
Hookers Point? ;-)
Maybe, Chief ”we don't have prostitution” Marsden should patrol Cabo San Felipe (Hookers point) then?
Even if…….., as far as I'm informed…….., prostitution is still NOT a crime in Malvinas.
Chuckle chuckle©
:-)))
If you have never visited a small island community like the falklands, you can't understand their mindset.
They tend to be happier, with reduced crime rates and a greater sense of community spirit. They have be that way to survive in what are some pretty remote places with limited resources.
These communities have the highest life satisfaction levels in the UK.
I have had the pleasure of visiting a variety of the UKs islands while on holiday trips - the Shetlands - along with Foula and Fair isle, the Orkneys and Outer Hebrides. The locals were great folks, very welcoming.
While in the Shetlands their was a news report on SIBC radio reporting the theft of a calor gas cylinder and asking for it to be returned. If that is the level of crime the Falklanders have, then fair play to them.
Add a local country like yourself that wants to take over and force you to either leave or accept occupation by a hostile government, why are you surprised that the Falklanders tend to pull together that little bit more?
@isolde , kelperabout and co - long may your community be a happy and crime free place - all the best.
You say:
”But you do not have my sympathy, just my satisfaction.
Live with it.”
I say:
I always suspected that I was no more than a ”Toy Boy” for you …..
Ohhh.... devious temptress Isolde.
But…..… What the heck…!
I’m a Man…! I can live with it!..... ;-)))
PS:
(46) Islander1
Albatrosses wasn’t ”In the mid 1970s”…. it was 1972!…..
Corruption and crime where?
The idiot liar “Gaywood” forgot to mention the narco-traffic stuff been carryout in the Islands.
Around “1 million pound of cocaine haul vanishes from Falklands police station.”
en.mercopress.com/2008/11/26/cocaine-haul-vanishes-from-falklands-police-station
How such little islands and with so little population has police cocaine catches of more than 20kg?
That would be more than 7 grams a head including soldiers, pregnant women and babies.
And the idiot says that there is not crime?
Someone living in fantasyland or just lying as usually British like to do?
The cocaine was found by a sniffer dog on a fishing boat en route from Uruguay to Spain, you idiot. It was flushed down the toilet by the suspect, and the police chief lost his job. The suspect was convicted and deported to Spain.
The only fantasy is in your poor little head. Is someone paying you to make a fool of yourself? They should be.
I walked and cycled for miles there and felt perfectly safe and welcome.
Marine Alan Addis “fell off a ship”.
“Uncle Dick” never touched them girls..
The cocaine “was flushed down the toilet”...
Darwin's virgin was attacked by an Emperor Penguin in heat....
Have you ever thougt about becoming Chief of Police in Malvinas?
You have no evidence or proof of anything.
lf you have, then present it to the Govenor if you don't trust the Police.
btw-where is/are malvinas? can't find it on a map.
You say:
“You have no evidence or proof of anything.
lf you have, then present it to the Govenor if you don't trust the Police.”
I say:
What for?
So he can flush it down the toilet?
Besides.........., I like Emperor Penguins :-)
As I said, your 'crime' tally for the last 40 years is actually rather reassuring.
I think anything Darwin did to a virgin is rather a long time ago even for you to be dragging up.
Not that Darwin.... Not that virgin........:-)))
I was refering to the “Virgin of Luján” attacked by the above mentioned misterious Emperor Penguin at her placement at Darwin's Argentinean War cementery, just some weeks ago......
How's your 3rd world pile of shit's plan to get its hand on the Falklands coming along? That's all we're interested in on here. Enough side shows. When is your leader going to hand her electorate their beloved (in their heads) holy grail? She keeps telling you poor peasants that one day soon the Falklands will be yours and every time she tells you you forget how much dulce de leche has gone up in price but when is she going to actually achieve it?
Time to do some gardening.
Chuckle chuckle.
A tad chilly for gardening, don't you “Think”...
I know, is a few years old and Nigel was busy at that time in another failed British colony(Basra, Iraq)
“The Royal Falkland Islands Police would like to remind all bike owners to secure them when they are left alone – even for a minute. It can take less than a minute to steal a bike”
www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=3940&source=3
How bizarre, sounds like a bloke with a crippling sense of intellectual inadequacy, quite brave to be so open about it I suppose.
Ohhh yeahhh... Poly-tunneling........
The exquisite mature joy of spending ones Weekends into a giant plastic bag to produce some gmo tomatos.......
I can see why most youths on them Islands can't wait to be send to England.....
You're right about bike theft. It is rampant. Our family has had 17 bikes stolen this week. What's the game plan Marcos? Convince us that the crime rates in the Falklands are as bad as Argentina and that will somehow make us hand them over to you? LOL!
Think
My kids are in England and can't wait to get back to the Falklands. I guess they are the odd ones out.
Now, you've made a couple more little distractions but how about now you try to concentrate (honestly, it's like talking to a child!). How's the big plan going? When do I have to start packing? When are you coming to get our islands? The ones you try to convince us all the time that are no good? Should I bother tending to spuds this summer or would that be a waste?
Ha ha ha. Why don't you ask your chum Doveshite? You haven't logged him on for a while. The one of you can go back and forward about how impolite I am.
Chuckle chuckle.
Sorry Joe…………..
But Mr DoveOverDover is here, right beside me at the Malvinas Situation Room, 2.5 km under the Casa Rosada, whispering in my ear….........................:Don’t tell him, Think!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3SqxUomwk
PS:
He's just gone out after cigarettes.....
You can, iun complete peace of mind,plant a good bed of Aspargus, mate.
It won't be a waste.
We like aspargus too....
Chuckle chuckle
Capt'n Mannering?
No Capt'n Mannering here....
You surely mean Sergeant Wilson!
They are only Wilson's in Thinks Army.......
And our enemy are the Turnips (of any Nationality:-)
Slide night and some of your favourite poison again me thinks. It won't change anything in the morning but you'll feel better for a while this evening.
When are you in Stanley next?
Sorry lad...I have no business i Stanley ;-)
You'll have to buy me the pints you owe me here in Chubut.....
When are you in Chubut next?
Being Argentine, of course you have no business in Stanley. I have no plans to be in your part of Argentina in the near future. My company's not doing much in Argentina at present. Most of my work is west or further north. Nothing political or personal or anything. We would happily take money from Argentines if they chose to deal with us. We deal with some Argentine nationals but they're contracting themselves to other businesses. One a Mexican one and the other an American one. Sorry I mean a USA business even though everyone on the planet knows that's what I meant.
What do you mean? I'm not stuck anywhere. It's just business as usual for us in the Falklands. I only hear about CfK and her inflation-diverting tactics on here. If I didn't read Mercopress I'd hardly be aware of it. It makes virtually no news in the UK.
Think- thought you knew a bit about the place? Hookers Point was I recall named after an early day engineer/surveyor or naval gent of that name.
Admittedly an ex navy ship,s crew that has their 1982 memorial just by it, was concerned at the time of the memorial siting, of the association in navy-speke with what you allude to!
But a pretty drafty and sandy and gritty place so unlikley any went on there!
Yes you are right about the Albatross date- part of the 1971 deal when our old mail and passenger ship to Montevideo closed down.
I remember them taking off- a roar from the twin props-amphibian gathers speed- then a loud bang and a jet of flame from the rear and the whole thing hurtled down the harbour largely covered in spray and smoke with flame to the rear - and then rockets cut off as it took off.
Damn glad I never flew on one!
I never said you were stuck, want me to take it in spanish?
Islander
A miss by 98 is not that bad, considering that I would miss by lot more guessing Montevideo's equivalent, and we are tiny :)
I'm not caught either.
I also notice when I ask a question that is close to Argentines they never answer. Is this because they know my questions are legitimate.
So come on you lot tell the world why you csannot bring yourselves to accept we exist. Give us the exact reasons or else shut up
”@24 Are you *still* obsessing about Kate's “shameless” act of daring to take her clothes off in a private villa on a holiday with her husband, Tobi? Had you ever actually seen a nipple before that? ;) You might as well start posting under your usual name (after an apology for your crazy bulgy-eyed terrorist-loving rant of course) hehe.”
I don't know what u talking about Mr. Paranoid Android. That was the first time I posted here.
Yes, I have seen nipple. I see them every day, actually. Does she have nipples? They looked like two fried eggs, lol.
Congratulations president Chávez!
Good news for the progressive forces all over the world, for South-America, for Unasur, for Mercosur, for Venezuela and last but not least for Argentina......
Thanks for a good Sunday, Venezuela.
Chavez: “This victory is also for Argentina”
Lanata, Clarin and Pomi in Tejas are joining the Brits at the funeral :-)))
I didn’t know that Mount Pleasant is called now “The Toilette” because seem good customers can be found there.
18 sailors test positive for cocaine on Royal Navy destroyer...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1050163/18-sailors-test-positive-cocaine-Royal-Navy-destroyer-used-catch-drug-smugglers.html
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1620848/Cocaine-hunt-on-Navy-warship.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100480/Royal-Navy-sacks-sailors-drugs-years-WARSHIP-shocking-figures-reveal.html
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/hundreds_fail_uk_military_drug_tests_1_4099770
“A senior Royal Navy source told The Sun: 'The worst aspect of this scandal is that HMS Liverpool is supposed to be guarding the Falkland Islands and such a large drugs bust hardly does wonders for confidence.” Meanwhile he sniff a little bit of stuff during the interview...
To be honest who can blame them after all?
I understand how hard would be for them to be trapped in a rock near to die prematurely of boredom just only surrounded by pre fab shantytown houses, penguins and nothing to do.
So don’t worry Argies are thinking to put cocaine, cannabis, LSD, Methadone, PACO and all kind of drug stuff over new weapons. So instead to kill you next time they will just drop happy party bombs with that stuff over you, no explosion, wounded or soldier killed.
After the party is over they will send one conscript with an Argie flag to retake the Islands. That will be all...
@ ElaineB
I guess no Gaucho and nor even the Dog tried to open that door...
Am I right?
@ Joe Bloggs
You have to be rich in the Islands to afford a poly-tunnel?
Wow!!! That would cost in between $6000/8000 pesos with installation included (1066 pounds)
Steel galvanised tubes, 200 microns PE, door, window, etc. 9x 5 mts or 16x30 feet aprox.
@kelperabout
Because you are the useful tool of the Mohammeds living in a little Island in the north a puppet of the Amexican...
Bad news?
Why?
If the Venuezulean Navy try anything against the UK , especially in the South Atlantic they will join the Belgrano.
If they fly their Suhkoi fighters from Argentine airfields to attack the Falklands, then the UK forces with a wave of their magic wand will make the Argentine airfields dissapear as if by magic in a puff of smoke.
And there is nothing the Chav will be able to do about it.
We in the UK laugh at the Chav for hours on end as he is an impotent joke.
So the Chav's re-election is an irrelevence as his words are about as effective as a stale fart; it has a nasty smell but soon disssapears.
Venezuelan Army can trash quite easy UK I really doubt that your navy can go further south.
#91, 92, 93 To be honest I personally think Chavez has done some good for Venezuela in diverting vast oil revenues to social programmes. Unfortunately he counts among his friends Iran and Syria, two of the most oppressive regimes on on the planet. He also seems to have failed to stem the wave of increasing violent crime, though that's endemic across the entire continent.
I don't think this is about “interfering” with the FI life or whatever. The Argentinian claim is historical and it started way before the FI become a good place to live. We claimed for them even when the UK treated those islanders as second class citizens. So I don't see how this has anything to do with your so-called amazing life, because if you wanna talk about landscape and peaceful life, Argentina has lot of it and more. This about territory, not tourism.
And it's because of Argentina that u could reach this actual state of wealthness, because your masters at the UK were willing to give you away, at some point. It's documented.
Argentina can't manage what you've done at home? I don't know any big country in the world which could get rid of crime and other buggers. With a population of 3000, anyone can achieve anything. Even a religious leader could lead 3000 to death if they wanted...
- You are not indigenous to that place. You are the great great great children of British people who were implanted in that land under the orders of the UK crown. You are no natives, neither were your ancestors. You are all British.
And dont point your finger that much at us, because the Britons attacked and killed and removed people from many places in the world. Not to mention that had not been the Spaniards, the ones who conquered these lands, then it would have been the Britons, once again. It's just a matter of whom occupied first.
Yup, we are in 21st century and that's why colonies like yours should get ridden of. You are not free, you rely on the UK and u will have to lick their boots forever in order to keep this lie. So whatever, good luck with it (?)...
Is Venezuela about to declare war on the UK ? For what reason-Oh -DB thinks this is a good idea. Teach the Anglos a lesson and show them the power of the mighty latrinos. Will Argentina be joining in or will she be hiding in the background where she will not get hurt.
Why should the UK invade Venezuela ?
Where would the Venezuelan army meet the British army ?
You are also an expert on naval warfare ? How could the Venezuelan navy stop the Royal Navy going south.
Look at the Venezuelan navy !
What experience has any of the Latams. had in fighting a REAL war. Like all your type, you talk a good fight then scarper off when it becomes serious.
Get real. Why don't your lot come up to our part of the world and try it.
You see, I can talk as much crap as you.
What makes you think I have never visited or lived in a small town? Precisely, because I have, it's that I think it's nothing special. Actually, I think it sucks and I refuse to live in a place like that again.
Big drama occur in small towns. There's no privacy. Everybody knows what you are up to at every minute. People love spying through the window to check out what's going on outside, to see if X went to the grocery store or Y came back from the bar.
I understand some people feel more comfortable living in this type of environment, but not everyone does, specially if you are young.
I don't believe at all in “wonderland” and I don't think these wonderland actually exist. There's always something that is not cool in communities. Because we are humans, we are different among each other and the picture of the happy family only belongs to the movies.
Visiting places does not represent the same experience of actually living somewhere. So yeah, u may have visited and perceived a perfect village environment but you did this from the point of view of a tourist. I doubt you could grasp the cons of inhabitating these islands.
The fear of islanders mainly comes from the BS stories papers like this and the UK make up about Argentina all the time. They are like kids reading tales of dragons and giants, so... as long as they don't allow themselves to open up and maybe try an informal relationship with Argentine citizens, those fantasies will remain and even get bigger, because they themselves keep feeding them.
Our fear of Argentina comes mostlyfrom the fact that you want to take over our country. I don't think that's a 'tale', or a 'fantasy'.
Apart from that you are mostly right; there are pros and cons to living in a small place. The Governor was talking specifically about crime, and he was right. There isn't much.
Walk to where?
Falklands is cold wet and miserable people are a bit odd but they like it there.
so leave them alone or behave like a neighbour.
Threatining the British is never a good move didnt work in 82 now you have no kit and the british have been on a spending spree.
From one venue to another or to and from home you dick head.
Not sure if you know the size of the Falklands but it is as big as Wales in England and has thousands of beautiful places to walk to.
Maybe you are a bit jealous because we can walk freely in open country or town while you have to look over your shoulder when you go out.
You think we know nothing about Argentina. You are so wrong many of us in one way or another have visited your Country and you have what you have just as we have what we have. Bit like the eskimos have what they have . Still does not make them less a people.
Having floating things on these days is not a good Idea, Missiles can sink the most modern frigate and the poor boat will be defenceless.
An if even that would be enough you have no money to keep Sea Dart system operational on most of your frigates type 42 D due to KaMoron cuts.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025299/HMS-Defenceless-Two-destroyers-sail-minus-missiles-save-cash.html
Sea Dart? It has been decomsioned as the last remaining type 42 are being replaced. They are only carrying out light weight roles now just before they are replaced by Defender and Duncan. You no nothing Mr Berger. And besides if they were attacked by ant-ship missiles they still have there Two PHALANX close in weapon systems. What has the Argie navy got? Oh that right 4 crappy worn out MEKOS and 6 of those other small crappy worn out MEKO corvettes. Can the Argentine Navy afford new ship or weapons like PHALANX, Sea Viper or Perseus? NO didn't think so. oH btw HMS Edinburgh the last Type 42 is a destroyer not a Frigate.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseus_(missile)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA_Aster
Yes, you are quite correct in stating that missiles can sink most warships. In order to do so, the missile delivery vessel has to get into position to fire. For you or your ally in Venezuela, that is problematical.
The South Atlantic is a big ocean. If RN vessels were deployed to the Falkands area, they would sail down the middle. The closest point, to the S.A. mainland is about 1500 nautical miles - and this is off Brazil.
If you can persuade your bosom chums in Venezuela to launch an attack by proxy (a hypothetical argument), they would need to travel 2043 NM to intercept. They have no means of delivering a missile over this range by aircraft.
Now, the ace - in -the-hole. The RN has a fleet of hunter/killer subs. Underwater, their speed closely matches surface vessels.
They do not stay close to their surface ships but hunt out danger and deal with it before the enemy vessels could get anywhere near. Remember the Belgrano ? I am not gloating as the death of many young men was a tragedy, but the Conqueror was trailing the B. by sailing underneath her completely undetected.
Any surface ship without the most sophisticated anti-submarine detection equipment and the knowledge of how to operate it, is dead meat.
However, I do not see this scenario arising no one is stupid enough to star hostilities again -or are they ?
You keep making nonsense with your stupid remarks about safety. You insist in comparing a huge country with metropolis, big towns, small towns, villages and what not to a place that's just a small village of Puritan Britons.
You don't walk safe in New York either, but maybe u can do it in the Colorado mountains. What's your point? None, obviously.
And you know shit about ARG. You seem to only inform yourself via biased mean websites like this one. Never a serious newspaper, huh?
“small village of Puritan Britons.”
Ah I see, so does Chile now belong to the UK as there are many Chileans living in the Falkland Islands?
110# typical argie...get ur head out of ur arsse
Define “many” :)
Out of a population of 2000, 1500 of the are Chilenos? Or is 100 many? :)))
What does Chile have to do with any of this??
@112 yeah and then you have advanced societies like the American one or Swedish, and you get your exotic way of being killed by a nutso disguised in Batman costume, or the cannibal who eats your face in Miami, or some crazy kids who decided to blow up their school and shoot their classmates.... Or some guy who kept his own daughter prisoner for more than 20 years, being incestuose and what not...
Oh! Those countries are amazing! Exotic criminal cases can't compare to shitty Argentinian crimes, right?
If you hate our country so much I really don't know what the hell you are doing here reading news about a country you despise so much. Hypocrite. Get a life!
Having lived through the 1982 war and experianced first hand The so called friendly Argentine attitude towards us and since don't tell me I know nothing about Argentine society. It does not matter how you percieve any country the fact is ours is out of all you mention the safest place to raise a family.
In the 1970's many of us travelled to Argentina because your government made it sound so attractive. Boy did it open the eyes of a lot of Islanders. Not what is was painted wy back then and is actually no differant to day. In fact i would have to say it is much worse politically now then in the mid 70's. Thousands are homeless, many more have no job prospects , crime and murders are high. Why the heck would I want to go and live in a situation like that. Our way of life may not be to your liking but it is way better than that most of your lot have to put up with.
I also challange the very fact that no matter how cooperatrive our two Countries could be Your Government has one goal in mind and that is to have full soveriengty over us. That is not acceptable and you would not like it either if your Country was taken over by another. Why can't we simply just live as neighbours and stop this stupid act of aggression towards us. What have we as Islanders personally done to make you and your fellow comentors to treat us like you do. The only reason I see is that your leader has pressured you to say things or face the consequencis. Am I right.
Yes, i can tell you know nothing about Argentina bcuz this is 2012 HELLO?? and you insist with 1982 and the 70's!!! Dude. 30 years! I will not allow you spread lies about Argentina when I have lived here for the last 34 years and guess what, I'm 34 years old! I'm not stuck in the past, I have witnessed everything from the 80's on and only an ignorant could say we are worse now than in that infame decade!
If you came here in the 70's I have no doubt you saw the worst but you can't keep that image for 30 years long and tell me nowadays it's the frigging same because that is utter bullshit and I won't let you do that.
Thousands are homeless? Shut the fuck up..!! That's really a huge lie... and jobless? Everybody I know are employed, I am employed, many go out on trips to Europe and the States.... I have never suffered a robbery or violent crime in my life, neither my relatives, family or people I know.. Strange, huh?
You are a compulsive liar and you CAN NOT base your opinion on our country on things that u lived 30 years ago because that's completely ridiculous! I mean, you've got some nerve, huh?
No one is asking you to come live here and even if Malvinas was ever going to join Argentina, I don't think the happenings of big cities and towns could be “moved” to such a small remote place. Patagonia is part of our country and their life is as pacific as yours, with the same weather and landscape (gotta ask why, huh?). Same goes for other cities and small towns of our nation.
So, in that sense, don't think too high of yourselves as if you were Disneyland because you are not. Are u really that cocky as to think millions of Argentines want to travel to Malvinas? Are you really so outdated and out of touch with the world that u think all Argentines put you first in their list of “places I want to vacation at” ? Hahahahhahaaa, you are really delusional my friend. Google a bit more... Do they have Internet at the small town? LOL
Oct 13th, 2012 - 02:49 pm
I don't know where you live, Argietothebone, but I live in a small town in Patagonia.
Last week our town suffered:
134 robberies,
14 knife assaults,
2 sexual harassments (violencia de género).
So life in a small patagonian town is not so crime free!!!!!
Don't pay attention to Simon he is a professional liar the other day was reporting a complete stick of doctor in a hospital that was working as usual.
Sure he is and old Brit or may be Islander living on a pension from the state that all of us pay to him.
Sounds like you live in Paradise, señor.
However we still do not want to join you or have you colonise us.
Enjoy. Thank you & bye.
LOL
@120 Isolde
I don't live in Paradise, but I can't say I am a victim of criminality because I am not. Thankfully and hopefully I will never have to go through that.
As for the other thing, u have to accept u live in stolen land and for that same reason u will have to bear with that burden for as long as Argentina considers legitimate its claim. So what can I tell you? It's certainly not a matter of what YOU want...
Oil Prospectors come to drill in the South Atlantic ocean.
The Islanders granted to them all an off shore drilling licence
The Argentines are up in arms and brimming with emotion.
This is our oil The Argies Cry , But no one is actually listening
We want that oil the Falkland islanders are stealing.
Not quite sure why all the fuss the Falkland don’t belong to them
CFK is mad as hell you can actually hear her squealing.
The Argentines have tried all the tricks to throw a spanner in the works
Putting Blockades in the oilmen’s path to make them go away.
But the Islanders are having none of that and Britain supports there move
Ships still come 8,000 miles they have another way.
No matter what you try to do you Argentines will never succeed
We Islanders know we cannot trust them no matter what they say.
The People living there want to remain British
So our message to you Argentines give up now and fade away.
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