Wednesday, October 24th 2012 - 05:03 UTC

Mexico asks WTO to begin dispute procedure over Argentina’s trade restrictions

Mexico will ask a World Trade Organization panel to adjudicate a dispute over trade restrictions with Argentina, said Economy Minister Bruno Ferrari.

Economy minister Bruno Ferrari said consultations with Argentina had failed

Ferrari said Mexico's request for a panel has been joined by Japan, the European Union and the United States, which had previously made similar complaints of their own.

He added that consultations with Argentina have failed to yield an agreement, but he did not provide details of specific sectors involved in the dispute.

In August, Mexico launched its first trade dispute against Argentina at the WTO regarding import licensing rules established by the South American nation, which critics say amount to a blanket restriction on imports.

The measures are among several policies adopted by the government of President Cristina Fernandez that have prompted accusations of protectionism against Argentina.

The worsening of trade relations between the two Latin American countries follows Argentina's decision to pull out of a car trade pact in early July.

Argentina's populist government has tightened controls on imports and foreign-exchange purchases in recent months to improve its balance of trade, which is crucial to boosting international reserves used to pay debt.

In March, Mexico was embroiled in a spat with the Brazilian government over cars, but resolved the issue with an agreement to cap the volume of its auto exports to Brazil over the next three years.
 

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1 Troy Tempest (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:03 am Report abuse
The corpse is starting to rot - CFK attracts even more attention...
2 LEPRecon (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:17 am Report abuse
Ah yes, this has been a long time coming.

I wonder how long it will be before the usual suspects start accusing their Mexican 'brothers' of stabbing them in the back?
3 Iron Man (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:20 am Report abuse
Oh no, but I thought Mexico was your friend? Now they turn out to be vulture pirates too. How disappointing.
4 Xect (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:23 am Report abuse
You can kick sand in your friends faces for so long before they stop being your friends.
5 Guzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:53 am Report abuse
Mexico is an US ally and has been so for quite some years now. Together with Colombia, they control a nice amount of the narco traffic. Most of it end up in USA, curiously enough...
6 agent999 (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:14 am Report abuse
Guzz
up to your old tricks - what has the “narco” trade got to do with this topic ?
7 Guzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:19 am Report abuse
Just letting 2,3 and 4 know who is who in the Americas, they are a bit confused...
8 Iron Man (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:21 am Report abuse
Guzz, I think a lot of the narco traffic might end up your nose. That would explain your posts at least.
9 Guzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:34 am Report abuse
USA, Mexico, Colombia... Add Chile and Peru and you have the Pacific Alliance... Strange coincidence...
10 agent999 (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:42 am Report abuse
So nothing has changed Argentina is still being taken to WTO over its trade restrictions.
But of course it will be everyone else that is the problem and its not Argentina's fault.
11 Anbar (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:45 am Report abuse
The USA, EU and Japan dont make up any significant portion of the global trading block, so what is there to worry about?

Now, if Botswana was going to the WTO THEN i'd be worried.

Anyway, Argentina can always complain to the UN Security Council that its a danger to world peace.
12 Iron Man (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:06 am Report abuse
Can Argentina include the value of the Libertad in its export figures?
13 Huntsman-Extraordinaire (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:11 am Report abuse
Argentinas response to Mexicos plight:

“I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!”

“Is there someone there we can talk to?”

“No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!”
14 ElaineB (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:13 am Report abuse
@13 LOL.

CFKC is so bloody narcissistic she cannot see beyond her immediate desire for cash. When she finally collapses she will be remembered as the most inept President ever know to Argentina, and that is a tough competition to be the trophy holder.
15 ChrisR (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:55 am Report abuse
Don't you just love it when an AG plan comes together, NOT!

LOLs
16 Mendoza Canadian (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
At some point the rest of the world will just stop buying from AR. CFK doesn't understand the concept of “trade”. HP printer ink, which used to cost about $20 now costs almost $50. Its ok to protect your industries if you actually have any...but they don't make anything here worthwhile.
17 Conqueror (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
@6 Were you expecting Guzzle to make sense? Fat chance! Rounding him out, we have a Uruguayan traitor who looks over the border and sees paradise. Wonder why he stays in Uruguay? Question is: who pays him? Argie government fink? And he get's quite carried away justifying CFK's corruption and lack of intelligence. Could he be a nutjob?
18 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
With all the complaints filed against argentinst, certain;y the consultation stage which is typical two mnths have past. They must now be forming panels and in less than six months forward a report. Eitheway, the entire proicess even with appeals is 15 months as to when the complaintants can enact retalitory measures against argentina. I would think that sometime in the next 4-8 months.....argentina's exports will start decreasing. That coupled with the dropping soy prices, wheat fungus, next year looks like the “perfect storm” in the making, economically speaking. They are getting near the point that not even their south american sister countries want anything to do with them. But do not fear argentina.....you still have north krea, venezula, angola and iran (and syria next?) as economic trading partners.
19 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
Interesting, in the 90s when Argentina was an import sucking machine, the EU, US, UK, Mexico, China, Mercosur, no one complained.

It would almost seem like they didn' give a sh!t about Argentina's economic balance then. Would almost appear as they only cared about their own interests.

Nah, that's impossible. Only Argentina cares about itself.

Muppets will blather.
20 Brit Bob (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
Interesting to note that Argentina also has trade disputes running with the USA, EU, Japam and 7 other countries, is the World's top protectionist country, is regarded as a paria state by international money lenders and is fast becoming a banana republic. Well done CFK the Comedy Club of Argentina.
21 Hook (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
Maybe CFK is really a MI6 agent?? she's doing so brilliant job that one can't count out that possibility. Strong Argentina would always be a threat to Falklands and UK, but a weak and poor Argentina can only harm itself. Most people don't understand that you need lots of money to go war. She's really working for the UK, it's almost obvious, it has to be..
22 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:15 pm Report abuse
#19.....titti boi....trade compaints against argentina predate 2000. You really should do reasearch before you open your mouth, unless again you are on your knees.
23 ProRG_American (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:40 pm Report abuse
This is the result of an Argentine Government protecting the interests of its people and saying “enough, this is no one way street”. Calderon is under pressure from US trade authorities and auto makers to sell more than what it buys.
This whole matter will be resolved with the new Mexican administration.
24 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
So.....if every country protects their own.....who gets to export and where? As always, the spoiled little girls of argentina want eveything there way.....one way. Month...by month.....argentina decays. It's the latin american mentally disease.
25 Hook (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
Mexican food is good, in Argentina they only have those milanesas which taste like shit
26 Troy Tempest (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 05:59 pm Report abuse
Well, it's one thing for Argentina to restrict imports, but if they break trade agreements, who will they SELL to ????
27 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:01 pm Report abuse
Really......I like milanesa, especially at Malacara's. I don't hate argentina I hate cuntina kirchner.
28 Pugol-H (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
Yet another international dispute for Argentina to add to an already very long list.

Already fighting on too many fronts as it is, Argentina can’t realistically expect to win on any front.

But CFK & Co still insist it’s the rest of the world that is wrong, and they that are correct. How long before she tries to stop the tide from coming in.
29 briton (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
She is so popular, that everybody wants to sue her,

She should relish all the attention.

Pirate pug wash,
You are Canadian now; your input is no longer of interest.

.
30 slattzzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
@19 this is 2012 and you've fucked up on a grand scale since then, do your self a favour and get rid of her she is dragging your country through the lowest of the low, most embarrassing time, you are becoming the laughing stock of the world
31 briton (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
becoming

sadly they are....
32 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:40 pm Report abuse
Lol Argentina should have sold Mexico guns so they kill each other as USA did apparently if we had sold them guns and deported them like animals as US does Mexicans might like Argentine better. Some people only function if you are murdering them as we can all see in this links. But it OK a few of them will be executed tonight by a CIA operative. Lol
m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=plpp&v=Qvk_WICNMLc
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=PGIyu_hF15s

The funny clowns
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6EUR5Dh0zBw
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Qvk_WICNMLc

Clown, are always funny to laugh at.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NJ6VzwubxxA
33 slattzzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
PH time for you to go back on your mummys teat
34 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
I'm telling you, he is a classic case of being removed too soon from his momma's nipple.....mal adjusted, angry, does not play well in the ssandbox, sexual confusion...all the symtpoms little alexis vargas
35 ProRG_American (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
Mexico unfortunaltely, lives by and for the satisfaction and approval of it's Northern master. Just like Canada. They are the 51 st and 52 nd states. Mexicans have resigned themselves to be dependent on and to live by the USA. They will never be free or independent. They were coherced into accepting NAFTA by the small wealthy minority in Mexico, that are thee only ones that will benefit from the Maquiladoras that they have interests in.
NAFTA has has destroyed the Mexican small family owned farms, and converted the country for an exporter of corn to an importer, from the USA of course. Their population grows faster than jobs are produced, schools and universities cannot accomodate everyone. Everyday, the former farmers and others seeking a better life risk their lives to cross North over the Rio Grande.
Looking accross the Niagara River from New York into Ontario Canada you can still see many homes fly the Union Jack. As if saying, stick it.
Their whole purpose of existence is not to be American but their biggest trade partner is the USA.
Yet both wish us hell and eradication from the face of the map. Sad really.
36 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
Seems that anyone that decides to be honest and play by the rules are USA slaves......you sound like the blacks of years past. Get over it, argentina is a deadbeat nation that borrows money and then refuses to pay it back.
37 ProRG_American (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
36 Captain Poppy (#)
No one said anything about slaves. I am telling the facts as I see them every day for years. I don't think there is much honesty between the countries. There are trade disputes and complaints all pof the time and remain unresolved. Many just quick patch work but unfairness continues everyday. We were told that NAFTA would create jobs and it hasn't. It took jobs away from our industries across the border where workers make 1/4 than Americans and we have not seen any of those jobs back.
Argentina does not owe Mexico or Ccanada any money so your statement is out the door.
So how do I sound like the blacks of years past.” ?

Where the heck do you live?
I rest my case
38 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
I order USA to kill all Mexicans that is what Obama said before he sold the guns to the drug cartel to kill Mexicans.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6EUR5Dh0zBw

While Libya took the US embassy and kindly asked them to go home or die, as usual Americans choose to die and they did, too funny!
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NJ6VzwubxxA
39 slattzzz (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
@37 well fook off home then and stop greeting on here. Don't slag off a country that has welcomed you and supported you, and how do you know so much about the economy of rgenweener? same as me off the internet, yet you still choose to slag off the hand that feeds you how does NAFTA owe you a living, I'll give you a clue it's called America, leave it for the Americans, much like leave the Falklands for the Falkand Islanders get it. Live your life and get on with it instead of blantantly slagging the hand that puts food in your mouth.. or better still do something about it......................I await intelligant and illegible retort from Stink
40 Elena (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
I thought I saw those news already because I dont see any actualization there from when it was announced months ago, They should let the trade deal die, it was sugested and supported by Nestor Kitchner and Kristina herself some years ago, but it is obvious it isnt being respected and isnt working anymore. It isn´t a big issue really.
41 ProRG_American (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
39 slattzzz (#)
Have you been zipping on the Jim Beem this evening?

40 Elena (#)
As I said in an earlier article. The current agreement will be fixed with the new administration. There are changing dynamics by which the agreement needs to be renogotiated. It was discussed between the new Mexican President Elect and CFK last month. The current complaints have more to do with Calderon reaction to Certain external and internal political forces and he must be seen to be doing something before leaving office.
42 Troy Tempest (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
@41 PRoBlynot Americsn

“As I said in an earlier article. The current agreement will be fixed with the new administration. There are changing dynamics by which the agreement needs to be renogotiated. It was discussed between the new Mexican President Elect and CFK last month. The current complaints have more to do with Calderon reaction to Certain external and internal political forces and he must be seen to be doing something before leaving office.”

And where did u get THIS info?
Tea leaves er, coffee grounds???
43 briton (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:51 pm Report abuse
38 Pirat-Hunter (
I order USA to kill all Mexicans .

Who orders who.
A hideaway Canadian/argie refugee,
Perhaps you should go and do it your self,

Go on, be a man.

.
44 Elena (#) Oct 24th, 2012 - 11:28 pm Report abuse
42 Troy Tempest

1.- Calderon is busy with the his transitional time actualizing Peña Nieto on things and on the labor reform. So the secretary on economy is in charge of this matter, since Zedillo there has been given a little more independence to this secretary as a way of keeping politics and especially change of president time, from affecting Mexico´s macro economics.

2.-Dont think Mexico only has this type of dealings with Argentina, it has one right now with the US too , in election time some US politicians, for electoral reasons, also search for a change in deals, and Mexico deals with that in the same way that is dealing with Argentina right now, and with China before them. Mexico has a lot of trade deals and is a difficult economic time so is even expected to be problems along the way.

2.- Argentina decided UNILATERALY to “change” the “dynamics” of this deal that the president herself and her husband asked of Mexico not the other way around, But this year, because they saw Mexico limiting part of imports for Brazil with another deal and because after 10 years of Mexico holding deficit on this deal now Argentina is the one holding deficit in Argentina wants to change it.

3.- Now, considering this deal is way more small than the one Mexico has with Brazil, that Argentina is demanding changing a deal that they themselves agreed on years ago, there isn´t much gain in insist on it IMO when there are others options, but that is just me.

4.- Peña Nieto was on a diplomatic tour for good political relations between Latam countries, we have yet to see how he will conduce economic dealings, but ppl around his team said economic policy wont change much while compared to Calderon, what is going to change are some estructural reforms inside the country.
45 Hook (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:45 am Report abuse
43@ there has never existed a man in Argentina. All shemales.
46 Elena (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:54 am Report abuse
Sorry Troy, I didn´t notice the reference at first :) my answer is for
41 ProRG_American.
47 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:54 am Report abuse
I think it's high time Argentina withdraw from ALL treaties, trade agreements and international organizations. The rest of the world wants a destroyed Argentina, can't be trusted.
48 Troy Tempest (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:33 am Report abuse
@47 Got TTT

“I think it's high time Argentina withdraw from ALL treaties, trade agreements and international organizations.”

Well, finally we agree.

It is so very confusing right now, we just don't know which deals Argentina is going to break, or when they might feel it is to their advantage not to honour the same terms as the rest of the players.
The UN could sure use a rest. Without all the Argentine diversions and tattling, they might solve that elusive “World Peace” thingy, in another year or so.

Of course, Argentina might complain that it is unfair, their peace is not as peaceful as some others...

:-)
49 briton (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:37 am Report abuse
45, very true.
////////////
47
its high time argentina,
1, changed its name
2, removed its self from the planet
3, make mars you very own home from home,
4, and sod all the rest of mankind.
50 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:35 am Report abuse
Argentina itself wants Argentina destroyed the most, exemplified by her own actions and inactions.
51 briton (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:41 am Report abuse
Here lies Argentina, 1816—2012
Abused and corrupted by her leaders,

Rest in peace..
.
52 Pugol-H (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
@37 RG_American
“There are trade disputes and complaints all of the time and remain unresolved.”

This much is true.

Then explain why so many of the disputes & complaints today involve Argentina, more than any other country.
53 British_Kirchnerist (#) Oct 29th, 2012 - 11:44 pm Report abuse
What an absurd time to start a lawsuit like this, Mexico will have a new government, “elected” (lets not go there right now!) half a year ago, in a month or so's time. What a lame duck move by Calderon, a parting shot at the far more impressive Cristina
54 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:13 am Report abuse
The theory in free societies is continuity of the society. It will be the new Presidents decision what to do with it. Most Presidents, in democracies see a different light once they get into the office. All of a sudden they have access to information they never had before and new opinions are often formed.
55 British_Kirchnerist (#) Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:16 pm Report abuse
#54 “The theory in free societies is continuity”

I thought that was the theory in dictatorships, in free societies the people get to elect a different government with totally different policies if they so choose - glorious discontinuity! Of course if government is on the right track they can always re-elect it, like, I hope, they will with Cristina =)
56 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 30th, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
I did not think you could grasp the concept of “continuity of society” from you la campora desk ........what a troll.
57 British_Kirchnerist (#) Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:44 am Report abuse
#56 Explain it then. From my actual standpoint, in Britain, it seems like a bad thing, an anti-democratic con job, as the classic example would be Blair turning the Labour Party into New Labour ie no different from the Tories and continuing Thatcher's policies
58 Elena (#) Oct 31st, 2012 - 05:31 am Report abuse
53
This Lawauit isn´t new at all, this are repeated news from months ago, I suppose because this site news needs to cover all about Argentina´s president, it even has the same photo. This could very well be the case of any publicity is good publicity . This is an economic matter not political, we dont tend to be petty like that. en.mercopress.com/2012/06/27/mexico-preparing-wto-case-against-argentina-over-suspension-of-auto-trade-accord

About elections: While I absolutely hate the results it doesn´t mean it wasn´t at least part of ppl choice EPN got 36% out of 100% Obrador got 30% and Josefina got 27%, all of them have at least 70% ppl that didn´t vote for them, it was a really divided election and that reflects well ppl feelings really, because none of them really talked hard or directly about matters, that is the truth. Ironically PRD and Obrador could have got a second run of votes if they didnt stop, along with the PRI obviously, that initiative on congress after 2006.

Now, how comes when Mexico has trade problems with Argentina WE are being petty and when Brazil has them is bussines as usual? at least given some reactions here which frankly leave a lot to be desired IMO. I know for a fact Argentines, Mexicans and Brazilians have good relations most of the time, even between goverments, and problems like these are an exception to norm.

Now If Calderon really whished to hurt Argentina´s president, dont you think it would have been far more easier using G20 presidency? All this conspirancy theories amuse me, here with Calderon secretely wanting to hurt Argentina, US paranoid Republicans with saying Mexico has hezbollah inside, a Canadian reporter even joked about Mexico and US planning to invade Canada, if it were for you, we would conspire with everyone 24/7 really ;) . I guess we MUST always be the bad ones in the fairly tale.

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