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South African minister admits a second Argentine navy vessel could be impounded

When Argentina still has not recovered from the impounding of the Navy’s flagship, ARA Libertad, retained in Ghana, another piece of bad news was confirmed in Pretoria on Friday when South African Foreign minister admitted that a second navy vessel, ARA Espora, docked in Simonstown was exposed to a similar fate.

SAfrican Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane (R) during a press conference next to Argentina’s Timerman (Photo: Telam)

“We are aware. The ministry of Defence has been informed and he is following the issue” said South African Foreign Affairs and Cooperation minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane during a press conference next to Argentina’s Hector Timerman.

The ministers met in Pretoria in the framework of a bilateral committee round of contacts to foster trade, investment, cooperation in several fields and political links between the two countries.

In Buenos Aires there are fears that the corvette, which was participating of a South Atlantic naval exercise but suffered a mechanical breakdown and is docked in South Africa’s naval base of Simonstown waiting for spares since October 25, could also end up impounded.

The hedge fund NML Capital (or ‘vulture fund’ as referred to in Argentina), successful with the month long impound of ARA Libertad, has contracted one of the top Cape Town law firms allegedly with the purpose of targeting the ARA Espora.

“We exchanged opinion on the different ways to address the negative impact of the ‘vulture funds’ activities in debt restructuring processes and development strategies, particularly in Africa and Latinamerica”, Timerman was quoted by the Pretoria media, more or less the same wording in the joint declaration following the bilateral meeting with his South African counterpart.

Nevertheless Timerman avoided expanding on the issue and said he was confident “that the rule of law would prevail” as has happened in other similar situations.

“We are working to recover our frigate” said Timerman insisting that under international law, “warships can’t be impounded” and that according to the Legal council from the UN “there are no similar cases on record”.

“We’ve had 28 impound attempts on Argentine assets all over the world, mainly our embassies properties and we have recovered them all in just a few months”, revealed Timerman.

“The vulture fund is responsible for this. It is looking to embarrass Argentina and force us into negotiations with them which we are not going to do,” he sadded.

However the Ghana courts accepted the impound request from NML Capital which holds sovereign bonds and claims 370 million dollars from Argentina in capital and interest. Argentina successfully restructured its defaulted 2002 sovereign debt in 2005 and 2010 but there is 6% of holdouts, apparently 1.6bn dollars in the hands of hedge or ‘vulture’ funds.

The Argentine government insists that Ghana is infringing the Vienna Convention which guarantees immunity to embassies and war ships among other assets.

However the Ghana court which is demanding a bail of 20m dollars to release ARA Libertad argues that on issuing sovereign bonds with specific clauses admitting reimbursement options, Argentina is not covered with the Vienna convention.

Argentine president Cristina Fernandez has repeatedly argued it will never pay ‘vulture funds’ but will honour the rest of Argentina’s debts for which it has sufficient dollars. She also claims there is an anti-Argentina campaign sponsored by these hedge funds and the IMF.

ARA Espora is the lead ship of the (German) MEKO 140A16 Espora class of six corvettes with a displacement of 1.790 tons, built for the Argentine Navy.
 

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1 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:29 am Report abuse
If the Libertad goes, the same arguments will prevail for the Exposeda.
2 willi1 (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:14 am Report abuse
”ARA Espora is the lead ship of the (German) MEKO 140A16 Espora class ”

I´m convinced that ck couldn´t pay the service charges for the boat so it run as long as possible without professional maintenance.
3 War Monkey (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:20 am Report abuse
I think it is very gracious of the South African government to allow a court jester to sit and talk with them.
4 stick up your junta (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:21 am Report abuse
Argie deadbeats remind me of Warrington Minge in the old actors story

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKAt2G8GUs&feature=player_detailpage
5 Santa Fe (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:15 am Report abuse
Haha it just gets better, a col rainy day in the UK made better by the continuing circus that is the Rg Navy jajajajaja. Loved the Warrington minge clip
6 Steve-32-uk (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:56 am Report abuse
“She also claims there is an anti-Argentina campaign sponsored by these hedge funds and the IMF.”
Ha Ha, CFK is a moron, calling the 'International Monetary Fund' Anti-Argentine.
7 Frank (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:03 am Report abuse
'waiting for spares since October 25, '

I guess the engine manufacturers want cash up front.... no need to impound this one then, it will be there long time......
8 falklandlad (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 am Report abuse
...peace in our time it would seem. NML Capital is to be congratulated for actively assisting in the demilitarisation of the South Atlantic.
9 Gordo1 (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:14 am Report abuse
It is time that the cocky arrogance of Argentina as represented by la Cretina and Timerman be thwarted by perfectly legal valid reasons. They should stop their whining and accept that most of their problems are of their own making.
10 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:17 am Report abuse
The irony of this sentence amuses me.

“The vulture fund is responsible for this. It is looking to embarrass Argentina and force us into negotiations with them which we are not going to do,” he sadded (sic).

So, a strategy of embarrassing sovereign states into negotiations against their national interest doesn't work. He should get his Special Assistants to reflect on that epiphany at the next Foreign Ministry away day and see if there may be an alternative that at least stands a chance of working when Argentina wants something.
11 Tinx (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:29 am Report abuse
Maite N.M

Great pleasure to see you !

Did you resolved problems of your owned vast land !?

I'm very glad your give up smoking.
12 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:58 am Report abuse
Looks like South Africa are not going to take the same craven position as Ghana, otherwise why a joint press conference with Timmerman?
13 mastershakejb (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:02 am Report abuse
HILARIOUS! thanks for the laughs Argentina, you're better than the best stand up comedians!
14 ChrisR (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:13 am Report abuse
Clarin have reported that the MEKO has been held in SA for a few days now.

AG just cannot manage anything in a grown up manner, preferring to whine and bleat at every turn.

Whether they want to negotiate with the laughingly called vulture funds is not in issue. They WILL have to come to some determination otherwise these really excruciatingly embarrassing actions are going to increase in frequency.

Oh joy!

BSK

Did you not get that the meeting had been arranged for some other reason (see par.3)?

BTW the SA minister looks lovely in her satin silk dress and not a plastic product in sight. Oh, sorry, Timidman is in shot so there’s a plasticised prick for a start.
15 Brit Bob (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:37 am Report abuse
This sort of thing could only happen to a Banana Republic where the rules of trade and commerce are not followed and where the population is brought up on a diet of propaganda and historical misinformation to suit political ends.
16 Tinx (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:49 am Report abuse
You should take heed of their handing positions at the picture.

Maite give us an impression of strong-willed
but Hector is like fluxional personality.

I know Maite is more decisive than many males.
17 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 12:41 pm Report abuse
Engines are french so maybe we've had a little word with them?
18 surfer (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 12:47 pm Report abuse
What about the planes, really need to start seizing those, that would be progress, and YPF, juicier targets.

That boat probably isn't worth much, scrap value maybe.
19 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
@12 to embarrass him maybe, wouldn't be hard would it?
20 Pirate Love (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
please please please let it be true, another vessel, how jolly!
how totally shameful! :)))
21 ptolemy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
The embarrassment is the ship can't get across the ocean without breaking down. Don't the Argentines service their own ships? What kind of military is that? I suppose the spare parts for the navy are imported and they can't get them because of CFK's ban on imports. Too bad the ship can't move under it's own power otherwise it could just sail out of port..(it does have guns.)
22 Pirate Love (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
lets face it argentinas navy during war isnt expected to make a return journey so that would explain the lack of repairs, a one way ticket

the dear leader will be lookin for yet another military chief to axe.
23 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
There is a law stating we should do to others as we wish they done to us, maybe when chevron cleans up the pollution we will start paying up, until then I guess we will all end up in court with many more polluters to soon follow.
“Ecuador has asked Argentina to seize up to $19.2bn of assets from Chevron in the latest twist in a long-running lawsuit over pollution in the Amazon rainforest.

The oil giant will also have its bank accounts in Argentina seized and gas sales frozen, a judge has ruled.

The 2011 ruling, one of the biggest of its kind in history, stated that 30,000 residents of Ecuador's Lago Agrio region had been harmed by the operations of Texaco, which Chevron bought in 2001.”
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9646826/Argentina-told-to-seize-up-to-19.2bn-of-assets-from-Chevron.html
24 ptolemy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:56 pm Report abuse
@22
“the dear leader will be lookin for yet another military chief to axe.”

Yes, a thriving new industry in Argentina: Scapegoats for Hire.
25 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
#14 “BTW the SA minister looks lovely in her satin silk dress and not a plastic product in sight”

Well they say impersonation is the sincerist form of flattery, so thanks for the compliment I suppose =)
26 Pirate Love (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 02:09 pm Report abuse
who is she impersonating? she looks nothing like tinman!!!! but he may where silk blouses, who knows, he looks the type, personally i think she may be barking up the wrong tree trying to flatter him, i heard he was into trannies thats why he spends a lot of time in his dear leaders company, but thats another story................
27 Anbar (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
“”Looks like South Africa are not going to take the same craven position as Ghana, otherwise why a joint press conference with Timmerman?“””

Black, african female politician telling white european politician of neo-colonialist country to GFY

There's nothing craven about that, in fact its lovely and refreshing.
28 kelperabout (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
At the rate Argentines ships are bieng held it won't be to long before CFK 's lot will loose their Country. Someone is bound to find a way to do it to recover past debt. Maybe the few remaining survivers of the indigenous people will make a move to take it all back. Either way it is hugely embarrising for the Kichrner regime.

So glad our little place is British and debt free and have a real democracy that allows us to live and work along side others without fear of debt holding.
29 Xect (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
@28 - I reckon we should bid for their ship and then use it for target practice, afterall its only really scrap anyway.

Surely we would be doing Argentina a favour, afterall it probably can't pay its legal expenses and the costs to repair the ship.
30 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 02:44 pm Report abuse
#24 wow is she going to behead Muslims?...CFK learned from USA and UK to chop heads but She will not murder them as USA and UK does to Muslims. With Argentina's support she will fire the useless.
#26 the english are king on trannies we can't argue with professionals who have being wearing skirts longer then women.

#28 that's why we Argentine support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina to eradicate illegal alien from islas Malvinas Argentina, we waited until 1982 and we can wait a little more until we get a good nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina, it all a matter of time, and nothing was ever lost we know exactly where to find Islas Malvinas Argentina and what to do this time around. Keep your bags ready for a long trip back to UK or the bottom of the ocean.
31 Xect (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
Pirat good luck with that nuclear armament program, given you have neither the resources, money or know how. You only need about 100bn to develop it.......

And even if you did develop a program which clearly the country has no ability to do, the UK's nuclear weapons are so far advanced you'd still stand no chance, Argentina would be turned into ashes if it did anything towards the people of the Falkland Islands.

So what then?
32 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:06 pm Report abuse
@30 here we go again an rg living on a foriegn soil reaping the benefits of a free society gobbing off about his beloved homeland and doing nothing about it, except visiting the local internet cafe having a coffee or maybe a beer or two. Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. I doubt if you could find your way home let alone the Falkland Islands, as for Nuclear weapons fookin dream on pal. Fire the useless you mean throw them out of helos into the South Atlantic. You'll be long dead pal before anything other than a flag with the union flag in the corner flys over the Falklands (there are no malvinas)
33 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
#31 We wish the the corporate you mention a great trip back to their home land UK I was talking About Islands Malvinas Argentina. Which has and wants nothing to do with British illegal aliens. I support a nuclear defence program to end the illegal occupation of Argentina by Brits, it's that simple, but we know how the Brits are they will cry wolf until the last minute. Then we will come out from the ashes like Japan did and populate islas Malvinas Argentina with the a local population not an implanted one from UK.
34 surfer (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
really picking up momentum with these repossessions, the Argentine people must be relieved they are at last honouring some of the interest payments on their debt.

Not the most honourable way to go about it but it's a step in the right direction, onwards and upwards, jolly good.
35 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
Everyone listen......we really need to ignore pirate hunter as it is incapable of staying on target. Don't let it suck you into anything it says.

Now, back to the good stuff......Where the hell are the droids to comment on this post. I wonder when asslips starts to realize that international law is against her, will she allow anything the leave the SA? Wouldn't it be tits if they seized as asset in Brazil and Brazil said...“International law is international law”
36 Xect (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
@33 - Interesting, not likely but interesting I suppose.

I'd hazard you've got more chance of winning the lottery than that ever happening.
37 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
@35 agree totally he's a boring, repetative twat best ignored
38 Conor J (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:35 pm Report abuse
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh come on this is getting quite funny!
39 kelperabout (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
30 Pirat-Hunter (#)
No worrys there then because if your nuclear projects work as well as your bombs did in 1982 we hve little or nothing to worry about. Your systems could never lock onto any Falkland Targets because all refferance to our homeland in your Country is in spanish so likely chance is most will come back to target yourselves.

Think we are going to see Argentina melt away sooner than expected with the rate ships are dissapearing che.
40 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
#34 we learned honour by watching the english people murder innocent Muslim women and children for oil, and with a nuclear defence program Argentina could bring some honour to the british illegal alien in Islands Malvinas Argentina, the people who like to theft land and natural resources.
#35 ignorance is a choice and a personal life style for 99.99% of the english people, Tell us something we don't know.
#36 we hit the jack pot already in 1982 time is on Argentina's side, just remember it might be a long swim back to UK.
#37 sure talking about Argentina ignore the Argentine and let the english decide for us, how original and typical of the english culture to decide what's good for others. If murdering Muslims solved their problems why can't Argentine execute english people to solve our problem? I say we judge you with the same ruler. Don't you like justice?
#38 yea this english turds are all comedians too bad people in benghazy Libya shot the circus clown on 9/11 anniversary celebrations, Hahaha how very funny you are am still laughing.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=9Qk3gmn-mq0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9Qk3gmn-mq0
41 Dam Edge ConTroll. (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
For no wise would call a healer out of those who offer slavery to the saved.
42 Simon68 (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:22 pm
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43 Conqueror (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:29 pm Report abuse
@12 Tinpotman would cry if he wasn't allowed to prance. argieland should engage in more “international” voyages. How to “cut costs”. Get your navy impounded.
@21 Slight problem. Simonstown isn't a “port”. It's a naval base. Take a close look at it in Google Maps. I don't see any way to determine which of the naval vessels is the Espora. There seems to be around 21 naval vessels. South Africa also has MEKO type vessels. Except they are twice the size of argieland's. Check out the Valour class.
@23 Attempted stupid diversion. But then, based on Facebook photo, alex doesn't have a bath in which to play with toy boats.
@25 Surely you're not trying to compare CFK with Maite Nkoana-Mashabane? Nkoana-Mashabane even looks like an intelligent person as well as sounding intelligent and truthful. You, and argieland, should be begging her to go and take over. Intelligence and truth are two of thousands of attributes to which CFK cannot lay claim. Let's remind ourselves of the pictures of CFK trying to press a brown envelope on David Cameron. She looked like a naughty, little (but old) schoolgirl trying to hand in late homework.
@30 You poor misguided faggot. Spanish background, therefore a heritage of concentration camps and murder. Honed by years under the tutelage of nazi Nestor. The English don't care for trannies. Try the Scots. They already wear skirts. Yeah, wait a little longer. Try a thousand years. By then you should have shagged each other into extinction. Wonder what the women will do?
@31 What he means is that he wants a loan. He's figured out “arrow”. Now he needs 200 billion pesos to figure out a “delivery method”.
@32 Don't be nasty. Have you seen his picture on Facebook? All he needs is a shave, a haircut and a wash and he might be able to pass for a chimp. Leave him a little hope. Back in the cesspit, he might look quite appealing to another faggot. Remember what argieland is like. The ability to say “Ugh!” is super-intelligence!
44 Xect (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:31 pm Report abuse
Seems Pirat is stuck in some sort of endless loop about murdering muslims and nuclear weapons the poor darling.

Just one thing was he being ironic about stealing land and resources when he mentioned it? Given Argentinian's are a implanted population that slaughtered and stole the land of the natives? Now there's honor for you and if that wasn't enough they also stole land off their neighbours!

Anyway as suggested, its time to ignore the fantasist troll.
45 yankeeboy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
Argentina has 27 000 000 acres of their best farm land under water. It is the size of PA!

I hope, hope, hope the soy crop is even worse than last year....
46 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
#26 Chris was impersonating me =)

#27 “Black, african female politician telling white european politician of neo-colonialist country to GFY”

In favour of vulture funds that have created the total collapse of country after country in her continent, if true (which I doubt), it makes me sick!

#35 “Wouldn't it be tits if they seized as asset in Brazil and Brazil said...“International law is international law””

But Brazil wouldn't =)
47 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 05:28 pm Report abuse
45 yankeeboy “I hope, hope, hope the soy crop is even worse than last year.... ”

Dear Fred, these floods are kind of normal on our beautiful lands, instead of hoping such bad things(not wonder you lost your hair) go help your felow Americans starving and freezing to death in Staten Island, destroyed by another flood.
48 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
23 Pirat-Hunter

You know what? You have just had a good idea!!!! No, no, no wait!!! you have had an EXCELLENT idea!!!!

“There is a law stating we should do to others as we wish they done to us”

You know what, me ol' son? if there isn't then there should be..... 'cos then 3,000 Falkland Islanders could then use EVERY house in Argentina as a toilet, AND they could plant un-documented mine fields ANYWHERE in Argentina and not tell anyone about it and then all 3,000 of them could put hand grenades in the desks of school children.....

What a brilliant idea of your's it is I am liking that a lot!!!!

You still think it's a good idea?................... Clown.
49 me@ez (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
NML Capital: stop militarising the South Atlantic!!
lol
50 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
LOL .

A carnival of attempted distractions from La Campora's second stringers and mentally-ill La Campora Juvenil wannebe's.

Nothing new stated, and nothing relevant.

We still have your Frigate - you will have run up more than $20m in expenses soon, and still got nowhere...

Your Corvette - in legal limbo, you'll have to do some major sucking up to a successful post-Colonial British power, to stop them handing it to NML on a plate.
The South Africans are on the world stage, laughing at you as CFK and Timidman get on their knees for 'negotiating'.
Hmmm, SA has a poorly maintained outdated corvette to barter.What can CFK offer ??
Hint: her nickname is “AssLips”. ;-D
51 briton_is stupid (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
@35/43
only black people likes such poor quality ship...you are one of them!
52 Conqueror (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 06:49 pm Report abuse
@33 Still a poor unwashed faggot. Has your “comment” got any relevance? By all means crawl out like the Japanese did. Remember that they crawled out in order to surrender. And beg for their lives. But the Japanese had something argies have no idea about. They had “honour”. Once they were made to understand that they couldn't win and, in fact, could be wiped off the face of the planet, they were intelligent enough to realise that life was better than death. And that the Allies only wanted them to stop being warlike and belligerent. To be satisfied with what they have. Or be destroyed. The Japanese have done that. And they have been helped by people from other countries that just want peace and honesty. How many thousands of years will it take for argie animals to learn that lesson?
@35 I hear you BUT... What harm in exposing an unshaven, unwashed argie coward for what he is? Living in a British-originated nation? Note that....a nation! A status that argie mongrels have yet to achieve.
@40 No, faggot, you got your ideas from the millions of murders you committed to get “your” land. Consider the land and resources you don't dare live with. What disgusting crimes have you committed in your worthless “life”?
You are certainly ignorant. A jackpot in 1982? Please return to argieland. I want you there when we turn it into a glass crater. That would be justice. You and the rest of the argie animals would be slime. Sorry, you already are. Let's make that atoms. Keep your mouth open. I have this bayonet for your throat. Faggot!
@47 WE can help you. Just wave and WE'll give you a 10 mile deep hole you can shovel your cesspit into. Remember to get in the hole before we fill it in.
@48 Don't be cruel. I'm sure argieland wants to develop nuclear facilities for peaceful purposes. What's wrong with a 10-mile deep hole containing 40-odd million argies? When it's filled in there will be peace. And the end of 40-odd million war criminals!
@49 F*** off, slag!
53 Cameron de gallina (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
@35 Conqueror Captain Poppy
Be careful...the UK owes 2 trillon dollars...the UK is broke...
54 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 07:16 pm Report abuse
@51 Sussie in ARGENTINA

“only black people likes such poor quality ship...you are one of them”

Is that your comment, a racist attack and an attempt to demean the government and proud people of South Africa ???

Really ????

Sussie, the South African Security Forces and Intelligence Agencies read these international forums and most speak English.

By now, they know you work for the Argentine Government, paid by their propaganda org., La Campora.

If not, they do, now :-D

I'm sure they love hearing that ARGENTINA THINKS THEY ARE RACIALLY INFERIOR !!

KEEP IT UP - you are a credit to Argentina and La Campora !!

LOL LOL LOL
55 briton (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
Ya couldn’t make it up,
Talk about a comedy show,

But be serious now lads,

Apparently
Argentina could well the worlds only navy less country,
That has its ships in others peoples countries as contraband.

But what if the mighty CFK gets invaded,

Still,
They do have a couple of nuclear rowing boats [with paddles]

Ha ha ha .

.
56 Sussie_US (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@55
the brits are damn!
57 briton (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
56 Sussie_US
the brits are damn!

Dam clever
Brilliant
Sophisticated,

the brits are damn,

brighter , intelligent , charming , honest , loyal , true , dependable ,

yep,
the brits certainly are.
///////////////////////////////////////

.
58 yankeeboy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
Let me say it again,

I hope, hope, hope the soy crop is even worse than last year....

I will laugh and laugh when they have to import Wheat from the USA.

The South American Zimbabwe
59 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
good to see sussie reverted back to her usual intelligent self. Got your giro off the US people and topped up on the smack then freeloader
60 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
@59 Slatzzz

I very much doubt that Sussie has ever actually lived in the USA.

It is one of those taunts he/she uses to bait us.

He has multiple identities. He has an anal fixation, and it seems he has a desire to be a woman.
He has been fulfilling those fantasies by pretending to be “Susana Brown” of Tempe Az.

He thinks it gives him status and attention from the other Argentinians to say he lives in the US.

The address he gave us and boasted about, was actually a cockroach infested slum.
He knows nothing of the US and ignores requests to prove he lives there. We gave him simple instructions, but got no reply.

He is more likely CFK's interior decorator, in her madhouse.
61 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
or indeed her cleaner lol
62 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 10:59 pm Report abuse
#54 I seriously doubt suzie works for Argentina/La Campora, in fact she's so helpful to your side I wouldn't be surprised if she was a British troll in disguise...
63 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
bk it likes a game to you with this “sides” nonsense......what are you 10?
64 Vectis (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
one less ship the Falklands have to worry about. one ship in every port was the royal navy motto, Argentine motto one sized in every port, not the same some how.

just reading a book at the moment all the country's Britain invaded or fought in or never got around too. of 191 un country's Britain invaded 171 wow 90% is good going
65 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 12:13 am Report abuse
#63 Not at all, as my name suggests I have a more nuanced view as both a patriotic Brit and an admirer of Cristina. To me its no real contradiction as I am an internationalist and a socialist. But you and I both know how this forum all too often works...
66 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 12:35 am Report abuse
@62 BK

“ I seriously doubt suzie works for Argentina/La Campora, in fact she's so helpful to your side I wouldn't be surprised if she was a British troll in disguise...”

So, you're saying you are not objectively looking at information and debating, you have taken a 'side' against the posters who do not support the Peronists?

As to “Sussie” - oh, by his behaviour I'm quite sure he's La Campora, your 'side'.

:-)

@64 Vectis
“just reading a book at the moment all the country's Britain invaded or fought in or never got around too. of 191 un country's Britain invaded 171 wow 90% is good going”

Yes, pretty much got it all out our system half a century ago. And you ???
67 Acchiappaladri (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 02:26 am Report abuse
@43 Conqueror (GREAT fun reading your comments: thank you!)

“@21 Slight problem. Simonstown isn't a “port”. It's a naval base. Take a close look at it in Google Maps. I don't see any way to determine which of the naval vessels is the Espora. ...”

;-) I agree. Earlier tonight I have reminded my fellows of the Italian forum of that “naval” problem. But may be some spotter in Cape Town area can help us.

There are so many ship spotting enthusiats around ... I bet some are having fun with their binoculars also down there in SA.
We could check:
www.shipspotting.com/
or other similar sites and ask for some help.

Please do not have excessive expectations with Google! Those people is so generous to provide good quality free global maps to the web surfers but they are not yet providing real time spy satellite service (at least ... not for free LOL). That very detailed Google photo was taken in February 2012 ... so the RG soo-to-be-seized corvette cannot be in that Google satellite photo.
68 Zhivago (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 02:35 am Report abuse
65 bk
Your name suggests nothing more than an oxymoron, like Argentine Naval Intelligence!
69 ChrisR (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 10:26 am Report abuse
55 briton

I don't believe it!

When did they get the SECOND nuclear rowing boat.

I shall have to go to the UN now and complain about them militarising the S. Atlantic!

LOLs
70 Santa Fe (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 10:36 am Report abuse
Hey trolls , has the mighty corvette set sail yet, or is it impounded, any news????
71 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 03:35 pm Report abuse
Let the expropriation wars begin let africa keep the boat and we will collect yet another 2.000.000.000.00U$ from English firms polluting our land, maybe Africa can join in once they learn how is done from Argentina.
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9646826/Argentina-told-to-seize-up-to-19.2bn-of-assets-from-Chevron.html
19 billions for a pair of old boats seems like a great trade lets keep it up and we might even be able to expropriate US air carriers for murdering thousands of innocent Muslim women and children from The middle east and around the world.
#43 who better then a faggot to know a faggot, except I don't know any faggots other then you. So I'll take your word for it.
#44 seems like UK and USA are stuck on a loop murdering innocent Muslim women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, Palestine, Lebanon, Libya, Sirya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia turkey and Iran. In my loop I cheer the execution of murderers while you people cheer for the murderers of innocent Muslim women and children who do you think people are likely to listen to?.. and we are not English to theft land, oil or resources we Argentine take back what belongs to us. Look at a map retard.
#45 and I am hoping, hoping, hoping yet another english firm is found polluting in Latin America that way we can expropriate their property for breaking the law, the odds are not on your side.
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9646826/Argentina-told-to-seize-up-to-19.2bn-of-assets-from-Chevron.html
#48 islas Malvinas Argentina is illegality occupied by illegal aliens if they bumped into Argentine mines it's because they are not suppossed to be in our nuclear test ground. So if the illegal aliens want their country to protect them I think they should go back home ASAP we don't give refuge to pirates.
#50 its all good. Let's see who has more property to expropiate around the world the english or Argentina.
72 LEPRecon (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
@71 - PH

The Ghanaians still have your flag ship, and South Africa is poised to impound another vessel.

Want to comment on that?
73 Conqueror (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
@65 “I have a more nuanced view”. Oooooh. Get you! “I have a small or subtle distinction”. Like thinking CFK is “beautiful”. The small or subtle distinction being that you're either blind, stupid or perverted. Or perhaps all three. “I am an internationalist and a socialist”. This translates as “I have only one interest. Self interest. I will steal from anyone”.
@67 It would be nice if a local spotter could help. As a suggestion, perhaps they could spread an emperor-size white bedsheet on the flight deck!
@71 Come on now, alex, play fair. We know that you desperately want to say something good about “your” country. Even though you're more than 5,500 miles away. Always wonder why you don't go “home”. Welfare benefits better in Canada, are they? But let's take a look at the times that argieland stepped up to the plate, shall we? Yep, the Gulf War. A destroyer and a corvette. Apparently, the Almirante Brown fired an Exocet missile. Who at? Muslims? The Spiro only managed fishery patrols. That was 1991. Before that, argies only managed to invade some peaceful islands in 1982. Bunch of cowards, I'd say. Chevron is American. Go on, upset the Americans. On the subject of land mines, thank you for confirming that you don't even accept the spirit of the Ottawa Treaty. By definition, YOU are a murderer. That's YOU, personally. The Falkland Islands are not yours, murderer. They never have been yours and they never will be. But thanks for giving us a reason to use every available weapon against you. Do unto others, eh? We'll remember, murderer. Worse than Alfredo Astiz.
74 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
Don't give tyhat Canadain....pirate hunter an audiance, you only encourage him
75 Pete Bog (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
This is all toooooo hilarious!!!

The irony of it-Falkland flagged vessels banned from Argentine ports because the Argentines don't want to make money from harbour fees and their associated economics when a crew visits a port, yet the Argentines will have to ban themselves from every port that NML can get ahook on.

In 1982, the Argentines ran for home when they realised their stupid fantasy adventure was not what they imagined, confining themselves to port. They will shortly be de-militarising the South Atlantic as the only safe place for their ships will be Argentine ports. But this will not be caused by any imaginary aggressive Royal Navy ships but the Argentine's own financial incompetence catching up with them.

They have attempted to be 'clever' by borrowing money and refusing to pay back what they owe (never mind the interest), but when you bare your ass and fart into the wind, it has the unfortunate effect of flying back in your face, as Argentina is now finding out.
76 briton (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 07:30 pm Report abuse
We bet people reading these bloggs must think, what a uneducated and indoctrinated people some of these Argies really are,
They have no idea what goes on, or even where the world is,

1, 64 Vectis,,
One less ship the Falklands have to worry about. One ship in every port was the royal navy motto,// the Falklands have not lost any ships,// it did not actually mean a ship in every port,
Neither did we mean a girl in every port, [silly twitty]
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71 Pirat-Hunter
48 islas Malvinas Argentina is illegality occupied by illegal aliens,,
[he now accepts his own people are aliens.]

76 the only idiot on here is you,
So say even your very own fellow Argies. Twitty.

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77 Conqueror (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@75 Struck a nerve, did we, sussie_the_slag? Been knocked off for the night, have you? Or are you typing with your toes? Not up to multi-tasking? You should be able to manage 6 at a time. You should go for it. Twelve dollars an hour!
78 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 11:00 pm Report abuse
Brian Riches (UK) says:
“why aren’t the Territories properly represented in the UK Parliament? Since the UK allows Scottish MPs to debate and vote on issues of purely English or Welsh interest, why is there no representation for the Territories?”

ukoverseasterritories.readandcomment.com/5-cooperation-between-territories/

Brian“conq”, maybe because Malvinas belong to Argentina.
79 Conor J (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 11:51 pm Report abuse
@78
No representation? How are they not represented? The Falklands and the other overseas territories are entirely self governing. Although I would support the idea, it is rather pointless as all their day to day legislation is made in the actual territory and not the House of Commons.

Oh and FYI the Falklands belong to no one but themselves, those people have chosen to be British, except it you filthy Spanish settler.
80 surfer (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 11:53 pm Report abuse
These hedge funds really need to up their game, these boats are really not worth that much, we need aircraft and YPF assets to get the game moving really.

Argentina have got a reputation as pirates in the financial world.

Tough measures are needed to bring the outlaws back, and force them to honour their commitments, this will happen. Default looking likely first though, again.
81 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:10 am Report abuse
79 Conor J “Falklands belong to no one but themselves”

Dear British squatter,
'falklands” belong to no one, Malvinas belong to Argentina.
82 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:17 am Report abuse
You argentines are so thick on the matter.......if argentina really felt it was theirs they would take it. No country would allow their property to be taken, would they? If they are squatters.....you guys have been sitting with something up your asses fo9r 175 years. But hell, argentina did not even exist back then when the UK settled their people there. Give it up, it's worst than an echo.
83 Conor J (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:20 am Report abuse
@81
No such thing as the Malvinas. Are you referring to the Maldives? I here that they are a wonderful tourist and holiday resort. The Falklands however are real and they belong to the Falkland islanders and not to Argentina, a country which is younger, less developed, overly corrupt and useless unlike the Falklands. Drop your claim to the islands and try to make Argieland a more bearable place to live. Oh and if your country ever tries to harm them again, you can be sure that Britannia will kick your teeth in and send you back to the cesspit you call Argentina once more with your tail between your legs.
84 surfer (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:20 am Report abuse
It's a real pity there are no YPF tankers plying international waters, they could make a useful contribution to repayments.

The financial pirates of Argentina are at least now being forced into honouring their guarantees. Progress.
85 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:28 am Report abuse
83 Conor J No such thing as the Malvinas?

Dear British squatter,
Enjoy the song...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BniyC33QdjM
86 briton (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:30 am Report abuse
once a thief, always a thief,
87 Conor J (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:52 am Report abuse
@85
So the Malvinas exist on the basis that a Racist, sectarianism boosting Irish band say so? Yeah right.

Heres one for you my dear Spanish squatter.
Enjoy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciOalICSUAo
88 Pete Bog (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:53 am Report abuse
@85
Dear Spanish squatter.
Give the Amerindians their country back and get your ass back to Spain.
89 Hook (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 02:49 am Report abuse
86@ in Argentina everything is based on cheating, you can't even buy a superpancho(kind of a hotdog) without having to be careful not to get robbed somehow. To them it's normal, OK, part of the culture.
90 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 04:52 am Report abuse
87 Conor J

Dear British squatter,
Is not just an Irish band, please read your own newspapers.

The Telegraph
9:30AM GMT 04 Nov 2012
“British have invaded nine out of ten countries - so look out Luxembourg”

“Britain has invaded all but 22 countries in the world in its long and colourful history, new research has found”
“Incursions by British pirates, privateers or armed explorers have also been included, provided they were operating with the approval of their government”

www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html
91 surfer (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 06:54 am Report abuse
This kind of story is really terrible PR for inward investment into Argentina, and every time Default is mentioned another potential investor is lost.
92 Pete Bog (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 09:28 am Report abuse
@90
Argentina has done its fair share of invasion too.

And so have other countries in the past.

Like you Mark, superglued to the past.
93 Huntsman Extraordinaire (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
Call the Thunderbird! They will come to the rescue. Dun du di du, dun dun dun dun du di du du du.

Wait a minute... The Thunderbirds are British puppets with American accents, looks like you've sh1t out again RGs!
94 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
Look out, Scott. It's a trap!!
95 Huntsman Extraordinaire (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
Thanks for that Virgil!
96 ChrisR (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
85 Marcos Alejandro

85 Marcos Alejandro

We can always rely on the likes of you bunch of cnut for a good laugh: The Wolf Tones! An Irish Rebel Band full of liars and misfits.

Have you managed to understand this because the vocal words in Ireglish had English sub-titles! You couldn’t make this up.

And the lies, the dates, the photos of the 1916 so called Irish Rebellion supposedly relating to early 1800 when there was no Argentina, like there is STILL no Malvinas.

If this is the best you lot can do you are all doomed.
97 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 05:42 pm Report abuse
@95

F A B
98 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
97 Troy Tempest

Send for Captain Scarlett!!! ( he is, after all, Indistructable )
99 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
@98too old for TV21

S I G Captain Blue.

These Mysterons need to be stopped.

I just hope The Hood doesn't find Tracey Island.
100 briton (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 07:32 pm Report abuse
………….
It seems to be perfectly ok, for argentina to keep its conquered territories , and other land it has stolen,
On this issue they don’t want to know,
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But it’s not ok, for free people to associate with the British,
We call this, ignorant, greedy, selfish, hypocrites, two faced , and a bunch of liars .

and they wonder why the world avoids them like a wet rash ..
101 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
Asslips kirchner can't do diddley squat so she makes noise. She is nothing more than a misquito in the summers heat
102 shb (#) Nov 07th, 2012 - 09:48 am Report abuse
@Tthe other Brits - I love those old Gerry Anderson productions myself!

We have to be careful though - in case Timmerman (who is, let's face it, a little simple) thinks that Tarcy island and marineville are in the Falklands and that we have positioned Cloudbase somewhere nearby.

I'd love to see him add those pictures to his next UN presentation..............
103 Pete Bog (#) Nov 07th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
@103
Timmerman probably will, with TB1 eblazoned with Rivero 1, TB 2 Belgrano, TB3 Sante Fe or some other equally stupid wording. In true Argentine form Dr Tracey will be Galteiri and Lady Penelope will be CFK in a Pink Panhard armoured car armed optomistically with bows and arrows.
TB 2's pod might just be big enough to squeeze Maximo in.
104 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 08th, 2012 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
#103 “Lady Penelope will be CFK”

Very appropriate, lovely ladies =)
105 ChrisR (#) Nov 08th, 2012 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
@104 BSK

You do know that Lady Penelope was a plastic doll, don't you?

Oh, oh. Spotted the flaw here, you love TMBOA who is almost a plastic doll!

LOLs

Apologies to the Thunderbird fans who did not realise that! :o)
106 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 08th, 2012 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
@105 Chris

LOL
107 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 08th, 2012 - 09:19 pm Report abuse
Asslips has enough botox and wax to be plastic doll.......but bk prefers blowup dolls....the one thing he loves about capitalism
108 Falkland Islands (#) Nov 09th, 2012 - 12:51 am Report abuse
is that prat-hunter adolfs brother, i have never seen such a person so full of hatred, if i were you i would be careful you might worry yourself to death that your evil ways are not being carried out,...... sicko!!
109 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 09th, 2012 - 03:35 am Report abuse
@109 FI

Pirat - ALEX VARGAS has been very quiet for the past 24 hrs.

Perhaps he is on a La Campora Juvenil special assignment at the Argentine Consulate for 8-N.

His services are FREE, there's no way CFK will send $$$ out of Argentina.

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