Argentine takes to the streets on Thursday to protest against Cristina Fernandez
Argentine pro and anti-government officials, politicians and lawmakers took to the nation’s radio stations to speak out on Thursday’s planned 8-N anti-government pot-banging protest, highlighting issues of class and ethics, but denying that the measure could be comparable to the magnitude of protests that took place in 2001.
The November 8 protest entitled ‘8-N’ is planned to take place in Buenos Aires City and in the main cities across Argentina, in protest against the President Cristina Fernández’ administration.
Ruling coalition (Victory Front) Senator Aníbal Fernández, who spoke on Monday dismissing the action as the “ultra right-wing factions in defence of Clarín media group’s interests,” commented again that “while there are people who are going to protest tomorrow because of things they don’t like, most of them are brought together by the fact that have direct backing by the extreme right.”
Furthermore, the Victory Front lawmaker had no difficulty adding names to faces, linking the protests directly to ”la Fundación Pensar (run by City Mayor Mauricio Macri) and la Sociedad Rural (Farmers’ lobby)” organizations, amongst others, that have “put together money and created false profiles on social media.”
Opposition Radical party (UCR) lawmaker María Luisa Storani however challenged the claims of ultra-right wing factions planning the strike and took away from it being an issue pinned to one class.
“The worst thing to be done is for a class division to be made. They’re saying it’s a right-wing demonstration and it’s not. The 8-N is a democratic event,” Storani said.
Lawmaker for the centre-right PRO party Federico Pinedo said that “the middle class in Argentina makes up less than 30% of the total population. Brushing the topic aside as if it were nothing is not an option.”
In addition, the opposition lawmaker said that “Taking a class approach is a mistake, because precisely what the people are demanding is that on Thursday they are listened to.”
The last major anti-government protest to take over Argentina’s largest cities took place on September 13 (13-S) and involved tens of thousands of people, making it the biggest anti-government demonstration to date since the farming dispute in 2008.
Even when 8N has the support of opposition parties and unions, the protest has been mostly organized by common citizens through the social networks and most probably politicians won’t show up at the demonstration or will mark a very low profile.
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Please can someone tell me? Do you have special protest pans? Or do you take an old one off the stove? Or do the organisers provide them when you get there?
Please please can someone tell me. This kitchen implement orchestra has me intrigued! I wish one of the 3 of you would explain it.
Chuckle chuckle.
Why sure Joe Bloggs. You need special and personal instruction by Moreno.
It will be interesting to see how Maximo's band of thugs operates on the night.
Lets face it,
CFK is slowly and rigidly sliding into oblivion.
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May be a showdown. La Campora has been very active of late.Of course there are other groups that are known for violent confrontation such as D'Elia and his thugs, and the communist party, who like to start fights but take instruction from someone. Could be lively.
Bloody priceless :))))))))
“Right-wing oligarchy caceroleando.... Who would have thought 20 years ago?”
“Right wing”... sure !
That's your job, Guzzano, perpetuate the Big Lie.
CFK calls herself Socialist, but is really a Fascist. Wait until La Campora sends out the thugs.
The Nazi's called themselves National Socialists too. Seems they had the Hitler Youth as well...
What about “8-N, I'm not going” counter campaign, and deployment of La Campora ??
Is there an Argentine Consulate in Alberta or British Columbia, Canada??
Great video!!!
I liked the Libertad part, but I really thought it was funny when CFK extended her hand to shake and the fellow walked right by her !!
LOL
So a counter campaign isn't democratcal, you mean?
Stop crying, grab a pot and go make a fool out of yourself, I need a good laugh. Poor oligarchs :)))
The Troll wakens from its slumbers, and is very cranky.
The counter-campaign and its message is organised (and paid for) by the Peronist government.
In contrast, the protest is a grassroots event by the people.
“Stop crying, grab a pot and go make a fool out of yourself, I need a good laugh”
You seem very disdainful and dismissive of the plight of Argentinians.
Keep strong in pot-banging!
I think you'll find 'that fellow' who ignored the proffered handshake was Barack Obama, you may have heard of him, he was just re-elected President of the USA for a second term yesterday!
Ouchiewower!
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I dont suppose somebody “neutral” (or at least capable of being so for 10 minutes) can give us plebians a rough breakdown of the various Argentine parties under discussion here.... it clearly isnt “Christina and Them” as it sounds like Argentinas biggest problem is not a lack of opposition but too much opposition too badly organised and too divided....???
Guzz even, if you can prevent frothing at the mouth for a few sentences? ;-)
This is what Kretina and her goons deserve:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOEwizw3TL4
Maybe he didn't know who she was
bit.ly/yXQEdw
@24 How can you say such a thing? Look at 11. “It seems as if November 8 will be just another normal day in Buenos Aires. People exercising their Constitutional right to protest.” I can't be bothered to look this up. Is a lamp post, a butcher's hook and a piano wire necklace another “Constitutional right”?
Some Le Creuset, others off the stove...
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2Z_M6BS295Q#!
Other countries to follow. This is so the world knows just how much the ARgentines loath CFK and want her out of office.
Nov 08th, 2012 - 10:28 am
I don't know if I can be considered “neutral” exactly, but very briefly the Argentine oppostition parties are:
FAP - Progressive socialists with a sensible approach to the global market (similar to Dilma Rouseff's socialism in Brasil).
UCR - Social democrats mainly very centred, but with both left and right wing subsets.
CC -ARI - Socialists with a sensible view of global market.
Several smaller groupings of left wing socialist/communist parties.
PRO - Right of centre conservatives, actually running the City of Buenos Aires Government.
Peronismo Federal - Traditional peronism, from centre right to far right.
As you can see the opposition is very fragmented. The main problem being that the leaders of these “parties” are more interested in being protagonists in the political scene than actually doing anything to improve the lot of the Argentine people. This has been a failure of the Argentine political class since the 1930's when it became a way to make money instead of a way to serve the people.
What we have now is a global elite with regional chapters. There is no great plan to subjugate the world as some seem to think, it is just a system that perpetuates itself. Whether Argentine or Angolan we go to the same elite schools, the same top-10 universities, then take positions close to the many distributed levers of power.
Wealth is so hard to get and so easy to maintain, it is not a conspiracy, it is just nature. Presidents come and go, but the king makers remain. The ones on the street are the middle classes, squeezed in the middle; not wealthy enough to be above the economic slowdown, but enlightened enough to see where the bad policy comes from. I feel for them and wish them success with their campaign.
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Best wishes to all.
They say respect that the fact that CFK is presidfent because she won 54 pc of the votes and yet they cant respect a demonstration that has never insinuated that there will be civil unrest. Argentines are legally allowed to demonstrate! Its a key indicator of a democracy is it not?
CFK and her mob are worried very worried - simply because they are losing control.
You are right, this is from Australia
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/116345/8n-pots-already-banging-in-australia!
Let me see if I can find the one in Sweden...
:))))))))))
8N - Yo si voy: 7 100 likes
8N - Yo no voy: 43 400 likes
Can't fool the people :))))))))
“@ 14 Troy Tempest
I think you'll find 'that fellow' who ignored the proffered handshake was Barack Obama, you may have heard of him, he was just re-elected President of the USA for a second term yesterday!”
Thank you Hereman
Feeling very flattered for your attention. Never seen you post before and you made a special exception to take a cheap shot at me.
I was actually watching it on an older Blackberry. When I looked again at home, I saw it was indeed a tall dignified gentleman walking past a dumpy looking housewife.
Enjoyed the election coverage on Tuesday night.
@2 Didn't you know? every household in Buenosaires has a few battered milk cans and a rusty frying pan for this carneval occasion which usually takes place every 8 years or so.
@9 You just havn't got a clue. Che, Whoes naval airforce bombed protestors in plaza de mayo ?
@11 how's the blackout and no water...normal day???
@21 Take pride, the ARA Whatever is in the process of becoming impounded in Simonstown. The German ship with spares for this tub is on 1/4 speed ahead...there are legal wranglings going on regards payment for the spares... next?
@29 You're not wrong. N8 is about people from all walks of life, of all kinds of political conviction seeing what the KK de mierda is doing to them and the country.
@30 Can't agree more!
@33 Once a pratt...always a pratt.
Nov 08th, 2012 - 02:15 pm
To save you time:
www.lanacion.com.ar/1524600-el-mapa-del-cacerolazo
Some 17 people in Australia, I'm really more interested in how many gathers in Sweden, not where...
Seems the “yo no voy” is far more popular than “yo si voy”, both in facebook and on twitter...
Nov 08th, 2012 - 04:10 pm
I think that the “Yo no voy” is supported by you trolls, rather like the Falklands survey in the Daily Telegraph.
The real truth of the support will show when the people take to the streets this evening.
Pretty good 17 Argentines in Sydney, as far as I know there are no more than 750 Argentines living in Sydney so 2.3% of the universe isn't so bad!!!!!
Go to twitter and have a look at why people “no va”
One says she wont go “porque tengo memoria”. :))
Nunca más, Simón, me escuchás? Nunca más!
I was watching the local Los Angeles Spanish language station at 9 AM. The reporter was at the entrance to the building that houses the Argentine consulate in this city. There was a massive turnout and a line up of local people seeking visas for travel, tourism, and Argentine retirees processing documentation for return to their homeland. Many did comment that they were concerned that protesters may slow down the process or that they would have to return if the offices were forced closed. With 35,000+ Argentines in this city, there were no protesters in sight at this time.
I thought that you all ought to know.
However you might be confusing the means with the ends. Violence was the means – thankfully not currently necessary – but the end remains the same. The ex-military behind bars and the politicians that have fallen are only tools. The division between rich and poor continues to grow, a clear sign that the aims of neither side are achieved.
Comparing results on social media sites is a parody of the situation – people fighting, discussing, debating, protesting while none of the causes they champion will achieve the outcome they want....while Mr Zuckerberg achieves exactly his.
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Best wishes to all.
Nov 08th, 2012 - 04:33 pm
I have lost my last faint doubts that you really are an Urugayo. You are an Argentine 100%.
I also “tengo memoria”, I can remember when Mr. and Mrs, Kirchner were executing Decreto 1050 reposession orders on very poor farmers and crianceros in Santa Cruz whilst supporting the military government!!!!!!!
As you say “NUNCA MÁS!!!!!!!!!”
“yankeeboy”, do you have any contacts? Could you make sure they are never let in again? A “heads-up” to the Border Patrol to shoot on sight?
www.lanacion.com.ar/1524600-el-mapa-del-cacerolazo
Guzz.....did you have carpel tunnel from clicking the mouse 43,400 times? If you were not ASHAMED of being an argentine you would still be in Argentina and know how many people turn out. The one in Sweden is in Stockholm.
www.ustream.tv/channel/8nlondres
”Because she has memories?” Is that it?
What about everybody out on the street and their memories?
Old walrus face knows damn well and is shit scared of what he knows. There, that’s as cryptic as your quote.
The difference is we know that TMBOA is getting more and sicklier as time moves on. Her Bi-Polar ‘disorder’ is going to end in tears for the country.
BTW I don’t bash AG for the sake of it, I do criticise the despotic actions because THEY DESERVE IT.
ALSO You claim that the UK would have a problem with the Chinese (if they had purchased bonds?) just the same as AG. You overlook / ignore one VERY important thing: the UK would have actually had to have defaulted first (like AG has).
So, the question is very simple: please show me WRITTEN EVIDENCE of the UK ever defaulting (and not the WW1 crap).
How about 20-very soon. 'm not sure which one will come first, the people wanting their pensions or the Chinese cashing in. I'm young enough to see both ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wx4DMtmbxrs
Rome
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1EucFzyK7Ik
more to follow.
Argentines wanted their pensions too, but like my wife, her's was robbed my CUNTFACE KIRCHNER
The photo below shows the only folks seen hanging around eqarlier in the afternoon, but no incidents were recorded.
www.andykortman.com/images/tv-nostalgia/BeverlyHillbillies.jpg
Add them to the 17 in Australia, 25 in Holland and 32 in Italy... Oh, and ProRG's 4 :)))
Un pedito de vieja el caserolazo :)))
www.robertpine.com/CHIPS_Color_Two.jpg
Pffffffffffffttt.... Next, 7D
Saludos pueblo hermano
english.telam.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16809:cabinet-chief-opens-the-joint-meeting-of-argentine-and-chilean-ministers&catid=42:politics
english.telam.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16814:argentinas-chief-of-state-qwe-are-living-a-time-of-freedom-of-expression-never-known-beforeq&catid=42:politics
english.telam.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16819:president-cristina-qthere-is-a-new-political-construction-in-argentina-and-the-regionq&catid=42:politics
tn.com.ar/envivo/24hs
Predictable diversion tactic.
Lets take that middle link you gave.
”We are living a time of constant expansion of rights.''
Does having restrictions placed upon the aquisition of the US$, a 15% charge on overseas spending an expansion of rights? and rights for whom? the Argentine Gvt?
Be Happy! A people enjoying the exercise of their rights in a democracy.
She is building her 'victim exit' as the Argentine people turn against her. If she isn't fit for the job she should bugger off.
Did I highlight the fact you posted an ill considered link for your refusal to answer my question to you?
A world in peril is tough on everyone. Tough times require tough measures.
You are right, that's a lot of people. Most of them are protesting against insecurity.
Read economical insecurity, namely their own.
Loads more are not protesting, namely those the former ones been living off until recently. Nunca más!
Nice diversion, the question still stands unanswered.
”We are living a time of constant expansion of rights.''
How does the dollar clamp and the 15% charge on spending abroad equate to an expansion of rights?
This is taking rights away from the common man.
You fail to understand that the pesification does not affect the normal Argentina. The normal Arg isn't a concheta with dollars in his account...
I'm not on about Pesos. I refer to the fact that having the option of getting US$ has been restricted and that there is a 15% charge for spending abroad.
Can one of you please tell me how this is ''an expansion of rights''?
Forget it. Both you know and I know that it is the complete reverse.
It is incredible!!
Not really. The turnout about 25,000 in downtown BA. Mostly BA residents, always a challenge to the National government. Macri and cronnies are out in force tonight. The oposition press using wide lenses to exagerate the street scene. In other cities less than expected. Crowds dwindling there too. Probably decided just to enjoy a lovely warm evening out. A lot more enjoyable than standing around hoping to get your picture on TV or just wasting time at the park. Made your point, exercised your rights, now move on and let things just get back to normal. You can cast your vote in three years time.
All of the political groups listed by @ 29 Simon68 (#) are a big part of the problem. They have no solutions.
Next streetparty planned on 7D...
what do you expect from a disguzzting socialist?
Socialists despise the working people, whom they consider a tool to gain power so they can grab everything within reach.
“probably the whole opposition was out... 1/42 of the Argentine population”
Majority of Argentines believe Cristina Fernandez is losing control of government
A majority of Argentines disapproves of President Cristina Fernandez but more significantly 40% believe she is losing control of her administration and another 20% consider it a fact, according to Sergio Berenztein from the respected pollster Poliarquía.
en.mercopress.com/2012/11/05/majority-of-argentines-believe-cristina-fernandez-is-losing-control-of-government
Opinion poll shows support for Cristina Fernandez sliding significantly
en.mercopress.com/2012/06/11/opinion-poll-shows-support-for-cristina-fernandez-sliding-significantly
Cristina Fernandez support eroding but no rivals on sight to challenge her
en.mercopress.com/2012/08/03/cristina-fernandez-support-eroding-but-no-rivals-on-sight-to-challenge-her
Re-re-election of Cristina Fernandez fully integrated to the political agenda of Argentina
en.mercopress.com/2012/08/21/re-re-election-of-cristina-fernandez-fully-integrated-to-the-political-agenda-of-argentina
Opinion poll shows Cristina Fernandez rapidly losing support; crime and inflation main concerns
en.mercopress.com/2012/08/27/opinion-poll-shows-cristina-fernandez-rapidly-losing-support-crime-and-inflation-main-concerns
#11 Exactly, unlike their side allowed when they were in power!
#34 Brilliant =)
#38 The Queen indeed =)
#81 I am really confused......are you in BsAs or LA?
The queen is dying ....the queen is dying......death be not proud!
Nov 09th, 2012 - 12:59 am
What an idiot!!!!!!!
Last night the GOVERNMENT estimated 700.000 on the 9 de Julio!!!!!!
Most observers calculate that well over a million people manifested in Bs. As. and close to 500.000 in Rosario. I've not seen any estimates for the other cities throughout Argentina, but in our small town the protesters were up by 25% compared with September 13th.!!!!!!!!!
And here's the Argentine Navy doing their very best to oblige:
www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=255803
ARA Libertad crew threatening to fire on Ghanaian port officials if they try and move them to a different berth. That'll encourage prompt service from the port authority...
“Not really. The turnout about 25,000 in downtown BA. ”
Very Argentine, always in denial of unpleasant facts.
“We came here because we don’t want Cristina,” said Shirley Brener, a 12-year-old student who protested in Buenos Aires with her mother, Monica, a 48-year-old school director.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/thousands-of-argentines-vent-anger-at-president-fernandez-in-protest-march-through-capital/2012/11/08/bd995c0e-2a03-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html
Cuntina Kirchner, Hannibal the Cannibal Fernandez and the Tinman are the perfect three monkeys sitting in a tree.......hear no evil, se no evil and speak no evil........the next protest we send mail them all bananas
You have made my day buddy! Makes me proud of being a sailor.
The Captain and crew of the Libertad have finally listened to me. Resist! Resist! Resist! Stand at the helm and enforce the law of the seas!
Make sure the barrels are clean and free and hand the boys plenty of ammo.
94 Simon68 (#) Last night the GOVERNMENT estimated 700.000 on the 9 de Julio!!!!!!
Luciano Pavarotti open concert had an audience of 200,000 and 9 de Julio was fuller than the photos.
Three years to go and counting fellers. I will say, that being in argentina is never boaring.
#99 Are you sure Cristina should do nothing to change the constitution and stand down, if she wins the Liberty War (if there is one) surely re-election would be hers for the taking if she wants it, and who could do better? I know Timmerman would be good, so would Alicia Castro and I'm sure others in the K camp, but I'd sure miss her charisma and spirit
#100 You wish!
TELL ME WHY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO ARGENTINA FOR THE 42ND TIME???? BK
“You have made my day buddy! Makes me proud of being a sailor.
The Captain and crew of the Libertad have finally listened to me. Resist! Resist! Resist! Stand at the helm and enforce the law of the seas!
Make sure the barrels are clean and free and hand the boys plenty of ammo.”
www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=255803
last line: “... the armed crew, who only laid down their arms later in the evening.”
Having reading problems? or did you lose your third brain cell?
If the crew fire at the Ghanaian port authority, it constitutes an act of war (ARA Libertad being a ship of war, right?) and they'll be wiped out.
Because I've not been for the 41st time yet =)
so clever. **chuckle **
So, still no answer, BK ???
Largas protestas en vivo!!!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH9u4smQ8EY
When I go fairly soon, I am really hoping that peso picks up pace in the slide, helps my budget.....lol
ProRG_“American” is so obviously an Argentino pretending to be a US american. As an Argentino he is an american, though.
ProRG_American can't decide where it resides.....one statement it sees activities in Buenos Aires, the next it talking about what it sees in LA.......what an idiot
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