Monday, November 12th 2012 - 05:54 UTC

Barrage of criticisms on Cristina Fernandez; unions planning national strike

Argentine opposition leaders renewed their criticism of President Cristina Fernández accusing her of being autistic, unlimitedly authoritarian and of disregarding the people after the giant anti-government pot-banging protest, 8N, on Thursday, while the administration vowed to steer the course and not to fall into “rightwing” provocation.

 CFK ironic statement about the great event of Thursday, a new president in China, infuriated the political system

Moyano wants to break the ‘kind of bubble” in which the president lives

Teamster Hugo Moyano, the head of the opposition faction of the CGT, said the President “lives in a kind of bubble that doesn’t allow her to see reality. The men who should advise her don’t make her see reality. Things are not the way they say they are, or the way they make her believe they are.

“We are protesting against the government’s despiteful way to address demands,” Moyano, a former ally of Nestor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández, said in remarks to a local Buenos Aires radio.

Moyano confirmed that on Tuesday he and other union sectors would decide to call a national strike for November 20 “so that the government listens to workers’ demands”.

The strike is being coordinated with Pablo Micheli, the head of the opposition faction of the smaller CTA.

Buenos Aires City Mayor Mauricio Macri and head of the opposition PRO referred to the speech after the 8N pot-banging protest, and released a photograph of the demonstration.

“So the most important thing last Thursday was the Communist Party Summit in China?” Macri stated ironically.

The city mayor published in his Facebook account a photograph of the protest, accompanied by this ironic phrase about the speech of the Head of State. Macri stated this after Cristina Fernández criticized the demonstrators, who she accused - without mentioning them - of “having a distorted vision of the country.”

”(On Thursday) a big thing happened: A new president was elected in China” said the president after the massive protest.

Cristina Fernández was first elected President in 2007 and last year was re-elected with 54% percent of the votes. Many demonstrators protested against alleged plans to reform the Constitution to allow the president to be re-elected again in 2015.

Hipólito Solari Yrigoyen, the chairman of the Radical National Convention, the main opposition party’s leading ruling body, said: “The authoritarianism of the President has no limits. The government’s official policy is to believe that they are the nation and that the rest of the people do no exist.” He also said that the government “lies” when it says that the Radical party lacks proposals.

The government meanwhile, said that it will not bow to “rightwing pressures.” Gustavo López, the Presidency’s deputy secretary general, said: “We don’t have to fall into provocation. We must be smart. The only thing we cannot do is to bow to right-wing pressures”.

Cristina Fernandez also accused the opposition of not having the necessary political leadership to present and support an alternative model to the one she and her deceased husband, Nestor Kirchner, have been implementing since 2003.

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1 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:27 am Report abuse
On her way out, sooner than she thinks...
2 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:31 am Report abuse
The Argentine opposition is not very clever, instead of gathering to offer their people an alternative, they use all their time trying to remove CFK from office.
Suppose they manage to do just that. Then what?
Utter fools...
3 Nostrolldamus (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:35 am Report abuse
For here one can witness what takes place, when brothers hint at dissent,

read this piece, stranger, and see the foreigners rejoice and try to foment,

further division among the people whom they reject, and in hatred's ascent,

they forget, their place and at hatred's behest, they descend into utter torment.
4 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:42 am Report abuse
Nature abhors a vacuum - someone will jump in there.

Will the people settle for another Peronist, or turn into an ugly mob??

Any opposition candidate has to be better than CFK.

Nothing will get any better until a person of integrity steps up to work for the benefit of the people and the country.

Macri would seem to have a better chance than the “Bubble-girl”!
5 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:50 am Report abuse
The opposition should beware, the moment her followers get fed up with their division tactics, a lot more than 1M people will take to the streets...
6 Ayayay (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:54 am Report abuse
The global business cycle will be back to its 2007 self in 7 more years.
7 Nostrolldamus (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:02 am Report abuse
For a man named Calmeran was kicking above his league,

he found himself outmatched by a solitary Queen Bee,

But Calmeran had comrades Jollande, Merkelen and Montis,

but even united they succumbed through the sting of a greedy banking fee.
8 Ayayay (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:03 am Report abuse
Unions are “left”-wing.
9 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:11 am Report abuse
The so called opposition is bloody transparent, no coincidence all protests and strikes are planned to before 7D :)

Clarin's dirty fingers are everywhere.
Like ghostbuster says
“I can see you!”

10 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:15 am Report abuse
“Barrage of criticisms on Cristina Fernandez; unions planning national strike”

LOL.......... be care madam President..... the Wolves are closing for the kill.
11 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:32 am Report abuse
The 'Opposition' is moving fast - to beat CFK's Dec 7th Clampdown against CLARIN and Freedom of Speech.

Nov 20th, will this be the showdown???
12 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:34 am Report abuse
Onlygoid thing is that this is costing Clarin craploads of money. Not only will they get reduced, they will also decimate their wealth in the process :))
13 ProRG_American (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:37 am Report abuse
What do any of you care whether she is neither in nor out? What have you to gain? If she leaves it will be for health reasons and she would be replaced by her VP. Her low blood pressure illness gets worst with age.
Any future leader will continue to push the Malvinas issue. More than likely we will see a right wing conservative in the Presidency and then things will really get interesting.
Macri has no chances outside of BA city. Scioli is the next President in 3 years time. A Peronist with conservative origins.
14 Xect (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:49 am Report abuse
Seems the writing is on the wall for old CFK, she doesn't seem to see it or is in denial about the state of her country.

I love how Guzzola is blaming Clarin, so the rampant inflation, unemployment and utter failure of the economy is nothing more than a sham put out there by Clarin?
15 LEPRecon (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
@12 - Guzz

But surely you, a socialist, stands firm with the workers!

No? Oh why am I not surprised. You're not even a real socialist, but a La Campora troll.

You talk about wealth. What about CFKs wealth, which has increased enormously since taking office. Not very socialist of her is it? Oh but then she isn't a socialist in the true sense but a National Socialist (Nazi) isn't she?

Yet again, a supposed socialist yourself supporting fascists.

AS for CFK, she'd better have her helicoptor warmed up, because the people - the workers will be coming for her.

Workers of the world UNITE, you have nothing to lose but your chains!

And uniting the workers are, against CFKs corrupt and inept joke of a government. :)
16 yankeeboy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
CFK's accumulated wealth will be gone as soon as she is under house arrest with Maxi.
If she wasn't so delusional, she would be “in recovery” in some nice country without an extradition treaty with Argentina.
I hear the unions want an extra extra payment in December? Do you think they'll take Patacones? I also hear CFK has shut off funds to Provinces for all of their planned construction projects, roads etc.
Rut Ro,
17 Simon68 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:25 pm Report abuse
One of the main complaints of the 8N protesters is the concentration of the kichnerist government on totally irrelevant things like the “war on Clarín”. The effort the so called government of CFK spends on this non-event could be used on lowering the amount of poverty in the country!!!!!!!
18 Pirate Love (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
how much noose tightening can that turkey neck take? cant help but feel the pressure is out of control. :)
19 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:21 pm Report abuse
I find it strange that anyone would consider unions a “right wing” entity. I also find it odd that a union would strike against the government as oposed to striking during contract negotiations with the compnay that they work for. But, whatever it takes to get asslips kirchner out of power. The entire country has absolutely no clue what a republic democracy is, what political free speech is and most importantly how to represent their people. One thing is certain, that Argentina must have a HUGE population of poor people. I recall the trolls arguing over ther decline in the USA's middleclass and that Argentina has a large middleclass population. Now during these past two strokes, they are claiming they are just the middleclass, a very small population of Argentina. Middleclass around the world is defined as neither rich nor poor, but the class that between the two that can self sustain themselves. SO I guess there is hardly no middleclass in Argentina and their are more poor class. Also it is obvious that cunt lips is not a leader of all her citizens of argentina, only those that support her. Argentina needs to sit down, look at it's last 100 years and ask itself, “why are we not better off” and anwser with real questions.
Brazil came out of a diasaster in less than 10 years
Colombia has overtaken Argentina in 5 years time
Chile has always surpassed Argentina
Perhaps when Suriname and Guyana overtake Argentina, they will see the picture.
20 Conqueror (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
@3 Dumb cluck!
@5 So much concern for argieland from a “Uruguayan” in Europe.
@9 Guzzle. The Big Lie in person!
@13 What's your name? Maximo? Not all “contacts” are public. Who knows what a potential future “leader” might have been told? You know what they say about eggs and baskets.
@19 Can't argue with your thoughts. But, please. That spelling!
21 Condorito (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
It must be terrifying for a democratically elected president to have a newspaper against her – terrible, unthinkable, shocking! Democracy shaken to its roots...I mean a news paper opposed to a government, whatever next.

It must be equally frightening that the unions are now part of
“the oligarchy”.
22 Nostrolldamus (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 04:36 pm Report abuse
When the aperçu for the tramontane is of internecine strife,

the foreign fiend-hordes will conclude that the time is rife,

to unleash the butcher's sword and to sink it sly as if from man to wife,

behind you cowardly unnanounced, the outsider on your back leaves his knife.
23 KFC de Pollo (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 05:39 pm Report abuse
all this rightwing unions.... America must be full of unions if right wingers form unions.....
24 Condorito (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 05:47 pm Report abuse
I like the new poetic Toby.
Your talent is wasted here.
25 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
#20 Obviously I am not a typist, typos. That.s why I have Admin Assist's at work. Unfortunately I can cannot have them type this for me. But it's a form over function matter....You being a Brit I can understand that.......
three fingers on the right hand were shot off, so I feel I type just fine.
26 Ayayay (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:30 pm Report abuse
Only 7 more years, my guess, until the Argentine market, which lost 75%, or 3/4 of it's value is back to 2008!!
27 briton_is Isolde (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
she is so beautiful
28 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:53 pm Report abuse
Critics are a dime a dozen in Argentina together with the pot bangers and union leader they make a wonderful bunch of leaches, I wonder how many union go on criticising washington Daily. Doesn't it make you wonder where all this workers of misery are when the streets are full of garbage, the electric grid needs fixing or the police force get a hair cut. None of them seemed to be there to criticize the IMF or WTO dictatorship in exchange for the theft of our tax revenues, did any of this people ask the WTO or IMF for accountability ? At this point It's too late for protests, if anything they should gather around their own candidate and propose an alternative political agenda other ways what are this bunch of ignorant proposing with macri? Didn't this people have enough of macro's electricity blackouts or the stomach by the garbage not being collected in BS. As. I cheer this lazy people because if they keep at it next election comes and CFK will win by majority.
29 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
piss there more poor or more middle class in argentina? Cold Canadian winter biting at your dogs? It's better than being in argentina though, isn't it? lol.
Been a while piss boi, been working a new ID in the past two weeks.......or hiding out from the immigration federalis?
No electricity, subway strokes, garbage piling up in the streets, cuntina kirchner refuses to allow Buenos AIres to borrow money to avert flooding.....all in order to make the opposition to her look bad, she makes the people suffer.........such a great leader......just like hitler.
30 Condorito (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
Hitler got stuff done. I think Kim Yong Il is a better comparison.
31 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
Try......but his ego lost the war. I really cannot imagine why someone has not red dotted her
32 Conqueror (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
@25 Oh well, if you had 3 fingers shot off, I can understand. I apologise. Were they shot off by an argie? Let's approach my next point slowly. 99% of the time, when the USA wants to do anything “military”, it likes to get Britain “on-side”. As I recall, the last time that you tried that and Britain refused (Vietnam), you lost. When, exactly, were you proposing to support Britain the way that you like us to support you? Are Americans so browbeaten that they cannot tell one man (your President) that he's got it wrong? Our servicemen (women) are dying alongside yours. In 1982, WE performed a mission that your Navy said was impossible. How much of your lack of support can be ascribed to an unwillingness to see yourselves outclassed? How much would you ascribe to an American unwillingness to accept that WE gave you your country? Read the history. Britain was fighting not only you Americans, but also the Dutch, the French, the Spanish, all around the world. Our people got fed up. You still didn't take Canada. Move on. The War of 1812. It was a draw. 1939-45. Nice of you to take part from 1942. Just halfway through. We can appreciate what you have done. But have you done enough to repay what we have done for you? Down in the South Atlantic there are some Islands. You exercised self-determination. Why can't they? You've taken over Britain's role of being the world's policeman. Are Britain's territories not considered? If one of your strike groups positioned itself appropriately, would argieland continue to threaten the Falklands? Never mind. We'll do it ourselves. As usual. I have a friend in the United States. Just outside Dallas. He gets embarrassed at the things “Americans” “think” about Brits. He was in USAF. He knows. British forces are “the best of the best”. Americans = technology. Brits = guts, courage, sheer bloody-mindedness. We will not be defeated.
@28 Whiney coward. Return to your cesspit. Join your “forces”. Be a real “martyr”. Die. Of course not. Coward!
33 ptolemy (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
Are you actually saying anything relevant or just trying (hard) to distract?
34 Stevie (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 11:48 pm Report abuse
All these childish comment about other nations is getting really embarrassing. I'm not sure who the bad guys are reading these threads.
35 briton (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 12:11 am Report abuse
How can you condemn a goddess , a leader of such quality , she stands aloft as a fine example of how not to do things,
Her people love her , adore her, would jump into burning furnaces for her.

Then again , the indoctrinated no nothing else.

Poor sods…

pirate finder, you are canadian now, go home.
36 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 01:15 am Report abuse
”Are Americans so browbeaten that they cannot tell one man (your President) that he's got it wrong?“
Have you ever been in ANY town common in the USA to see protesters on any given day? If it does not make the BBC, does it not happen?

”Britain was fighting not only you Americans, but also the Dutch, the French, the Spanish, all around the world.“

Perhaps british bluebloods, not commoners, pushed their empire too thin to be fighting the world.

”Nice of you to take part from 1942. Just halfway through. We can appreciate what you have done.”

You think Europe was an American war? Hitler didn't bomb Pearl Harbor. In a shorter period of time, we lost more men in the African and European Theater.

You need to get of you high british ass and take your fucking attitude to someone who fucking cares. I can recall my father always bitching an=bout the Brits Army stopping for the tea. As I told the other British idiot, you have a problem North American, off the now 225 billion still owed from WWI and we'll leave you Brits and the EU alone. Oh....and yes the war of 1812 was a draw.......but for a 20 year old nation of nothing more than should be proud of a draw from the world largest and strongest army of the time. Torries.....let's call them sallies
I think you're an old man fool that lives in the glory days when Britain was great........before we took out the trash 225 years ago. As I say to us back your debt deadbeat.
37 Ayayay (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 02:29 am Report abuse
In my state, both Democrats and Republicans are PUBLICALLY PROUD of their friendship with Obama!
38 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 03:12 am Report abuse
That is the kind of unity the US needs, to get things done..

Good job!!
39 Ayayay (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 03:42 am Report abuse
Thanks on their behalf, Troy ;)
40 mastershakejb (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 03:54 am Report abuse
Argentina news is like the comics section of the newspaper! HILARIOUS! Thanks for the laughs Argies!
41 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 11:06 am Report abuse
We use to have bi-partisan and compromise in our politics, but the extremists turned compromise into a political weakness, now it's hard to come by.
42 cornelius (#) Nov 13th, 2012 - 12:14 pm Report abuse
There is no alternative to Argentina paternalistic Bolivarian philosophy in Argentina the one's that produce and contribute to the economy are the enemy of the state they can have changes from the Peron’s right to the left to the center up and down but the cancer of the Argentinean society is the culture of dependency (Juan Peron war of classes ideology) as long as they have that psychic no changes in Argentina will occur they will always strugle to become a serious country.
43 briton (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
The only idiot on here is you.
44 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
#43 Wow briton, did you come up with that sizzling comeback all on your on, or did you corroberate with an RG for that level of brillerance?
How does it feel being like an RG deadbeat? Was it a convenient memory lapse?.....WWI loan that is? We still carry it on our book....dfoes Britain?
45 briton (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
you never cease the American savour of the world.

and your anti british views.
you told this , you told that.

perhaps one should remember that one is no better or worse.

and we still think obama should should support british intrest in the falklands,
in lew of supoprt rendered.

as for the loan.
think on this.

1, the loan is and has been repaid.
2, the Americans whiped of the war debts of the french germans italy and other european countries that sought american help.
rather unfair was it not.

but to be fair, loan paid , so cant throw that one back.
46 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
I am not anti British. I just get my high up when limey's like you and Conqueror wish to unload on my country, you think I am going to sit by and watch you piss in the wind? You can verbally shit on the USA but you Brits can't take it in return, is that how it works?
Sure they wiped them out. WWII was paid off a few years ago from the 60 year loan.....not WWI
47 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 10:50 pm Report abuse
#13 I for one care because as a world citizen I value her contribution, as the world's most beautiful and eloquent head of state, in standing up to the financial vultures who threaten us all. I imagine the haters care for the same reason, just turned on its head as they support the vultures! I also don't think its likely she'll go for health reasons, do you? I wish her every good thing and would not have her damage her health under any circumstances, but surely she could remain a titular head of state for a lengthy sabbatical while she recovers if necessary?

I must admit I am also a bit worried by the prospect of Boudou as President by default, he spent most of his life as a banker and conservative before either having a Pauline conversion to, or jumping on the bandwagon of, the K left, was a good economy minister for a brief period but has been a dissapointment as VP, far less visible at least as far as I can see than many other impressive ministers and mired in scandal (though if he is being witch-hunted, he should be defended of course). If, say, Timmerman could be made VP if Boudou resigned to concentrate on clearing his name, I'd be less worried about a succession, though to me Cristina remains a unique and outstanding leader both in Argentina and the world

But most worrying of all is your idea that someone like Scioli could take over. It seems to me thats not what Cristina herself wants from her criticisms of his management, and rightfully so. As you say, he's a conservative Peronist, and Menem, Isabel, even Peron himself in his right wing mode, are hardly encouraging role models, in fact quite unsavoury. I don't think after all its been through, from death squads to economic collapse, Argentina would want to go back to the right having lived under the people focused, democratic alternative. As you know I want a constitutional change, but if Cristinita can't stay, then surely another leftist will win? The combined left vote last year was 71% after all
48 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 11:34 pm Report abuse
Yeah, you're really Scottish BK.....
49 briton (#) Nov 15th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
still anti.
i dont run americanbs down, just obama for not supporting the uk over the falklands,
no more no less.

we piss in the toilet not the wing,
besides some think you and conquer are one of the same man,
i do not you are two different men,
see no
50 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 15th, 2012 - 03:31 pm Report abuse
Great......because I in particular feel, as most Americans that the Flaklands are and have always been British. I am nit sure what he did that provided that opinion. I know CLinton stated the Brits and RGs should talk, other than that I am not sure what.
51 Ayayay (#) Nov 15th, 2012 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
@47 British Kirchnerist
“A titular head of state for a lengthy sabbatical”-you want Argentina to have a queen.
52 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:22 am Report abuse
Ayayay.....BK, then Argentine pretending to be Scottish wants her to be lifelong president. I think BK is really the bastard son (from Booboo the VP) Fatsimo the Fat Fucker kirchner.
53 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:29 am Report abuse
#51 Well she's already a queen to me =) Seriously though, the reason I said that was because of the dilemma that was posed if she was really very ill. I don't believe what the haters say, that she's just preparing an excuse to leave by illness, though I was alarmed by ProRGAmerican's comment that she might really go for genuine health reasons. I'm optimistic that won't have to happen, but I was thinking along the lines of her operation in January, even if she is too ill to govern for a time she could go on a kind of sabbatical as she did then, with someone else as an acting President and her able to come back whenever she recovers. A better solution, it seems to me, than to go and leave the country to an inevitably lesser leader only to recover a short while later but be shut out of power by then, or to work so obsessively that it could make her health worse; Nestor seemed to work himself literally to death!
54 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 11:25 am Report abuse
See what I mean Ayayay?
55 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 06:08 pm Report abuse
What do you mean? Anyway my question was to ProRGAmerican, whose input I do value even if I fear he may be wrong on this one, so I don't really care what you think. ProRG, what do YOU think?
56 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 09:43 pm Report abuse
Each time he proves my point Ayayay!

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