Sunday, December 9th 2012 - 14:39 UTC

Falkland Islands: “Nothing to Fear”

Falkland Islanders preparing to exercise their right to self-determination in a landmark democratic vote next March were pledged overwhelming support by the Falkland Islands Association at its annual general meeting in London on Saturday presided over by its chairman, Mr Alan Huckle, a former Governor of the Islands.

Andrew Rosindell MP with members of the FIA Executive Committee and the portrait of Her Majesty which he has presented to FIA

Councillor Jan Check addressing the AGM

Zoran Zuvic Bulic of the FIDF after laying his wreath

Main topics of the meeting were condemnation of Argentina’s aggressive economic actions against the Islands, measures to counter its misleading version of the history of the dispute, the developing Falklands economy with the prospect of its first oil flowing ashore in 2017, and tributes to Sir Rex Hunt, Governor during the 1982 invasion and chairman of the Association for many years, who died in November.

The meeting opened with these tributes. Mr Huckle quoted the Falkland Islands Government’s (FIG) sadness and tributes praising Sir Rex as a champion of the Islanders. In his report on the Association’s year, Mr Huckle condemned what the British Government officially regards as Argentina’s illegal economic blockade of the Islands. He recalled the attendance of the first British Prime Minister at the annual FIG reception in June commemorating the Islands’ liberation from Argentine occupation in 1982 and Mr David Cameron’s forceful reiteration of the United Kingdom’s absolute commitment to defence of the Islands and support for self-determination.

This theme was vigorously reinforced by the Chairman of the All-Party Falkland Islands Group in Parliament, Mr Andrew Rosindell, MP, who said the Islands had the support not only of the British Government and Parliament but also the British people. “The Islanders”, he declared, “have nothing to fear…I have no doubt the Falkland Islands will remain British forever”. He is conducting a campaign distributing leaflets to educate schoolchildren and their teachers about the Falkland Islands and the other British overseas territories. He presented the Association with a portrait of the Queen, pointing out that she is the Queen of no fewer than 48 realms around the world.

Mr Rosindell said he and other MPs recently met the Argentine Ambassador to Britain, Alicia Castro, whom he described as “a feisty lady…blind to reality” over self-determination. “She just does not get it”, he observed.

A Member of the Falklands Legislative Assembly, Mrs Jan Cheek, reporting on the busy 30th anniversary year, condemned Argentina’s increasingly aggressive economic and transport restrictions and the cancellation of some cruise ship visits under pressure from Argentina. She said the Islanders were making progress in South America and elsewhere in countering Argentina’s misleading version of the history of the sovereignty dispute. She said there was cautious optimism over the prospects for oil production with the first oil expected to come ashore in 2017. Already oil development activities are making a substantial contribution to the Islands finances. She emphasised the Falkland Islands would do all they could to protect the pristine environment and wildlife from any harm.

Mr Huckle remarked that there was great faith in the youth of the Islands when he announced the winner of the annual Bill Hunter-Christie prize in memory of a founder member and long-time chairman of the Association. The winner is Sonia Arkhipkin studying medicine at Leeds University, who was presented with a collection of medical books by his widow, Merle Christie. Russian-born Sonia was four-years old when her parents emigrated to work in the Islands as marine biologists.

The audience of politicians, veterans of 1982, and supporters included a group of young Islanders who are taking an increasingly high profile and articulate role in presenting the Falklands case for self-determination internationally at the United Nations and elsewhere, backed by a new booklet entitled “Our Islands, Our Home” outlining their views.

Association Secretary Colin Wright reported its healthy membership and finances. An appeal has launched for support for Stanley Museum and the Jane Cameron Archives.

The meeting was preceded by the annual Battle Day ceremony and wreath-laying at London’s historic Cenotaph, commemorating the First World War 1914 Battle of the Falklands against the German Navy and subsequent conflicts.

Wreaths remembering the dead were laid on behalf of the Association and other organisations. Wreath layers included Rear Admiral Nick Lambert, former Captain of the South Atlantic patrol ship HMS Endurance, for the Armed Forces; Legislative Assembly members Jan Cheek and Sharon Halford for the Falkland Islands Government; Mrs Sara Jones, widow of Colonel H. Jones, VC, killed in the battle for Goose Green, for the Falklands Families Association; Colonel Mike Bowles for the South Atlantic Medal Association; for the Young People of the Falklands by Krysteen Ormond, Stacy Bragger and Zoran Zuvic Bulic, resplendent in the uniform of the Falkland Islands Defence Force; and Mr. Andrew Rosindell MP on behalf of the UK Falkland Islands All-Party Parliamentary Group.

The service was conducted by Canon Stephen Palmer, former rector of Stanley Christ Church Cathedral; also taking part were a Royal Marine Bugler and a navy cadet colour party from Pangbourne College where the 1982 Memorial Chapel is located.

Harold Briley, London

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1 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
“He is conducting a campaign distributing leaflets to educate schoolchildren and their teachers about the Falkland Islands and the other British overseas territories”

Here is the leaflet.
2 Britninja (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
Zzzz. You really are a snivelling bore, 'Marcos'.
3 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
Now let us educate the world who this “Andrew Rosindell”, whose elocutions about “self-determination” seem so sincere, really is.

He is virulently anti gay-rights, and wishes to deny any rights to this group. So much for “self-determination”.

Also notice how he said “the Falklands will remain British forever”... does that sound like “self-determination”?

Oh, and to put the cherry on the pie:
4 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
3 Great article
Rosindell is sponsoring an “erotica dinner” to educate schoolchildren :-))))
5 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
The hypocricy of these angl0-saxons and most Europeans knows no bounds. Most of their countries live in the stone age when it comes to rights for all groups, and yet the politicians engage in all kinds of saturnalia and carousing.

No wonder the elites (the bankers and politicians) call them “plebs” and “muppets”. They are 2nd class citizens, and saying they are citizens is a stretch.
6 stick up your junta (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:26 pm Report abuse
@ 4
Yes pity its 2 years out of date, 100 times I MUST DO BETTER
7 Santa Fe (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:30 pm Report abuse
3... Living in a dream world, you have just invented a leaflet and claimed indoctrination of children when, giggle Argentina practices well documented indoctrination of all it's school children with lies about the Falklands...on a parallel with your old friends the nazi party.

And the islands can be British if the residents wish , that is self determination you clown....jog on
8 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
Mr Andrew Rosindell
9 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:35 pm Report abuse

OMG, two years... that's an eternity isn't it? Especially since the British hypcocrite (oops, pleonasm), still espouses those same views.

Funny how these Brits harp about things CFK did three/four years ago vs today, but start crying when the same standard is applied to them.

Hypocrisy again.

The words hypocrisy is a collocate of “British”, I can't ever separate them.
10 Pirate Love (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
11 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
Brits in Malvinas attended Mr Andrew Rosindell “ erotica dinner” yesterday, today they are scheduled to attend F1 “Boss” Max Mosley party with five hookers for his famous “Nazi Orgies”
I can't stop laughing about this Brits in Malvinas.
12 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:05 pm Report abuse

Finally an intelligent Brit. Reminds me of my pet silk worms in 1st grade... they were a bit cleverer though and tried to escape.
13 Terence Hill (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
1 Marcos Alejandro
Here's the Argentine indoctrination taught as a substitute for truth.

Las Malvinas Son Argentinas’: Who Taught You That?
14 Conqueror (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
@1 Cowardly little faggot distributing argie propaganda.
@2 How restrained of you.
@3 Ah-hah. Another faggot. What is “gay”? Do you mean queer or homosexual? Let's look around this planet of ours. Can we have a list of the species that take part in same-gender sexual activity? “Gay” is just a word to disguise aberrant behaviour. “Homosexual” is true. “Queer” is accurate. Is this why argie “soldiers” turn their backs or go belly-down on the ground? Offering a bum-job?
@4 Unlike you, we don't get “excited” by pushing people out of aircraft.
@5 Rights for faggots? You must be joking. Next you'll want everyone to join in. But I have a special “tool” for your arse. A bayonet. You will be truly “open” to all comers.
@8 I don't get it. Is that all you could type whilst bent over?
@9 “hypocrisy” is only one word, you uneducated faggot. On the other hand, corrupt, cowardly, creepy, criminal, degenerate, genocidal, incontinent, larcenous, mendacious, necrophiliac, puerile, putrid, rancid, racist, scurrilous, scrofulous, useless, xenophobic and many others are all words that can be replaced by “argie”.
@11 Your mental instability is obvious. Never mind. You won't be “surviving” much longer.
15 Terence Hill (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
1 Marcos Alejandro
Try this link
Here's the Argentine indoctrination taught as a substitute for truth.

Las Malvinas Son Argentinas’: Who Taught You That?
16 CJvR (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
“On the other hand, corrupt, cowardly, creepy, criminal, degenerate, genocidal, incontinent, larcenous, mendacious, necrophiliac, puerile, putrid, rancid, racist, scurrilous, scrofulous, useless, xenophobic”

LOL! Why don't you say what you really feel about Argies without holding back?
17 Brit Bob (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
@1 Marcos

Not the UK but Argentina 2012 : -

(Pretty dispicable lot).
18 aussie sunshine (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
19 Britworker (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 06:26 pm Report abuse
Armchair warriors at it again I see. After March that's the end of the situation for us and many others. One day Argentina might be powerful 'giggle' and use their advanced technology 'giggle' to force the British out 'giggle, giggle, giggle'. Until then please continue to make complete arses of yourselves along with your president and her plastic comedy face.
20 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
Well that's true we can't kick you out (I personally don't wish that of course).

Though I'm still waiting for this devastating lesson the EU, UK, USA will teach Argentina, I've been hearing about it for the last 3 years...

Just waiting for the real Tiger to show up. So far all origami... haha.
21 Zhivago (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
I think Marcos Alejandro must have had his bum spanked by a Para back in '82, too bad the Ghurkas didn't get to him first, anyways I hope he gets help getting that lost butt=plug surgically removed!
22 Britworker (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
I don't think anyone in the UK wants to teach Argentina any lessons, I think most people in the UK don't give Argentina a single thought - ever! As a preference I would prefer Argentina to concentrate on it's own vast country and to desist from pissing off its peaceful smaller neighbours.
23 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 07:08 pm Report abuse
@22 thats the point they don't want to think about whats happening to their own country because it's all bad, so deflect their paranoia elsewhere, well attempt too anyway must of the time they make a pigs ear out of it and look like fools..AGAIN
24 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
@22, 23... thank you. Best news I heard all week. If I were president I would cut that deal immediately, we renounce the Falklands and you never talk to us again (no embassy, no cultural exchange, no having to meet each other at int'l meetings).

I think I could see people that.
25 agent999 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
Unfortunately, Nostrolldamus, your are not the President.

Your mixed up President has no idea of what she really wants, on one hand she criticizes the EU for its protectionist policies and the in the next breath suggests that Argentina would like to be part of the EU.

She is happy to go to the international courts such as the WTO to complain about actions against Argentina, but will not accept any WTO submissions that are against Argentina.

She will complain that the judiciary outside of Argentina is all corrupt and anti Argentina.

She will tell the world that INDEC's figures are a true statement of the economic performance of Argentina and how dare anyone dispute her figures/ forecasts.

Most of us came to Mercopress because of CFK/Argentina's actions against the Falkland Islands.

You keep telling us that you only post the rubbish that you do because of the hatred the British posters have of the Argentinian people.

Well for somebody who claims to be such an educated person with such an understanding of world affairs, it is a pathetic excuse for writing such rubbish.

You hide behind so many aliases - why ?
26 briton (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
Once again the argie trainees come out with anti British rhetoric, over the British Falklands

How childishly uneducated some Argies are today,

As long as they are protected by the British, they might as well be protected by the lord almighty,

As Argentina has more chance of seeing the back of the unsightly CFK than they ever have of argentina becoming civilised, let alone getting these islands,

When they pick up the shame of their 1982 defeat from the gutter and get some courage,
They know where to come, do they not.
Still 2
They do provide the best comedians do they not. Lol.

27 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The it is most unfortunate that your beloved leader SS Hitler Cristina Kirchner can do no better than to send an uneducated Argentine pensioner x flight attendent of the bankcrupt airline Aerolines Argentines to be her representitive in London what she forgets to tell people is that they are also lovers.
I ask you good people (excluding Argentines) to take a look at this interview where Madame Casto is made to look a fool she also resembles a man in drag.
28 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
@27 god she is thick as fook Dermot rips her a new arse, if this is the best that rgenweener can offer as a foriegn diplomat gawd help them, mind you he did well not to laugh, I'd have hit her so hard her mum and dad would have fell over
29 Steve-32-uk (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
'Britain accuses Argentina of 'strangling' Falklands economy by harassing cruise ships near the islands'

'United States and Uruguay discussed military cooperation agreement'

'Defense Minister Arturo Puricelli, yesterday delivered the first four rocket launchers LVC CP-30 Artillery Group 601 Multiple Launchers Argentine Army'
30 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:24 pm Report abuse
@slattzzz She's a diplomatic embarrasment, well as you can see hardly a diplomat more a trouble causing irratent sent by the SS Hitler Cristina Kirchner both old pensioners fighting for there youth.
31 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
Time to deploy another frigate or destroyer to get close up and personal with the rg coastguard me thinks, and watch them run, good source tells me Edinburgh is on her way south
32 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
You see thats the point Argentina will bully any small nation or group of people the last time HMS Dauntless was down in the South Atlantic they were crying and winging and they wonder why,it really is time that Cameron took a tuff stance with this Nazi botox queen
33 briton (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
It is hard to see just what mr Cameron is up to,
Is he deliberately doing nothing, in the hope the CFK will attack the islands or provoke an incident so he can justifiably send in the navy?

Or is he hoping that she will just run out of puff and justifying his cutbacks to the tune that we have no enemies,
Either way mr Cameron’s government has been warned and all the danger signs are there for all to see,

We all know on here, that he could send either the new type 45, a submarine or two frigates, and state that all shipping including cruise liners are libel to be delayed and searched, just the fact that he ups the anti, would deter cruise liners from the south Atlantic,

We have said it time and again, its not what he says, its how they interpret it,
And if they think we are weak, then they will keep pushing, until the inevitable happens and violence is started, that make mr Cameron as guilty, does it not,

Fxck em all, send the navy with instructions to defend any ship interfered with by the Argies, run em off, or sink em,
But don’t just sit on ya bum David, do something…..

just my opinion.
34 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
@briton I feel Cameron is playing the quiet deplomecy card but this can only last so long he will let Kirchner push this so far then you will see the navy being sent and once again you'll see Argentina crying that we are trying to militarise the South Atlantic
35 briton (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
very true andy 65,

she will keep pushing and pushing untill it happens,

then like you say, they will run crying to the UN and blame us..
36 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
Kirchner behaves like her anchestors in 1939, what these cruise companies should do is ALL pull out of Argentine ports,no commercial company should be treated like this
37 Orbit (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
It really does amaze me; TTT and crew you are on here pointing out contradictions in British politicians for quarter debating points, and meanwhile behind you in the ring is the full CFK cabinet in head to toe clown costumes, complete with big shoes, water buckets and a car with a big horn and doors that fall off.

They are dragging your country into a complete mire politically, economically and socially. They lie to the world (“no dollar clamp”, “i talk to the press all the time”), show themselves to be completely ridiculous (“militarising the south atlantic”, “court cases everyday against the oil companies”, the entire C24 pantomime), and demonstrate intellectual prowess of amoebas. I mean seriously, despite the thousands of economists and politicians who have tried to come up a successful economic model, only CFK and her counter model have the answer. Really, a “successful lawyer” who's razor sharp legal mind can't even work out that telling a judge that she won't abide by his ruling before the ruling, that it might, just might negatively impact her case, can better centuries of economic practice and learning?

Surely with all this ineptitude going on at the highest level you have more important things to worry about in terms of what is going to happen next to your country? Lets face it, even if the world lost its collective mind tomorrow and the falkland islanders decided to go with argentina, how would that have the slightest bearing on stopping the downward spiral that your government is taking you down?
38 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
@33 good point I know what i'd do, next time a rg coastguard ship harrassess anybody get the sub to surface right next to it and say hello, and at the same time announce in parliment to the WHOLE world that due to continuing rg pressure we will deploy another warship to the South Atlantic who will be on constant patrol around the islands (not in the Carribean or West / South Africa as they do now) but purely there to stop any further intimidation from rgenweener against ships legally fishing and with licences granted by the FALKAND ISLANDS (there are no malvinas), also another two typhoons to the islands whom carry out air to air refuelling right above said rg coastguard tug. When they start whinging about militarizing the south atlantic tell the whole world why we have done this with the FACTS, and we will not back down to harassment from the arseholes (obviously you couldn't say that in parliment but you know what i mean). Then hold a major military exercise on the islands with live missile firings just in case they dont get the message................... Then watch CFK and her bunch of brown shirts arse cheeks start flapping. Fuck it get the sub to carry out a Tomahawk firing just to be sure, you can never get enough practice after all
39 Pirate Love (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:32 pm Report abuse
The UK has a wise old Anglo-saxon :) head, and knows how to continue frustrating the Hispanic Child that is Argentina, by not rising to their baseless tantrums, their actions can be reported to the appropriate bodies, any aggression......well that would be argentinas swift undoing. :))))

Rise above them, in the knowledge The UK has the ability to cut off Argentinas arms and legs, and be back home for tea and scones in port stanley, but why be bothered when Crustinas doing such a sterling job for us??
40 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
@39 after all rg's are just spaniards with no balls
41 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
@38 Slattzzz

Ooo, I like those ideas!

And - wouldn't our RN boys really enjoy themselves too ! !

'Dame Dover',
waiting for your typical Lord Haw Haw response.
42 Steve-32-uk (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
@33 briton

I'm sure there has been a lot of good British diplomatic work behind the scenes, most of which you will never find out about. With the re-established Falklands & Southern Oceans Departments help, you will see a harder tone from our Govt.

I'm still waiting ...
43 puerto argentino (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
I recommend everyone to read this article via Marcos! Very good Marcos, Thank you for sharing it.
44 Xect (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
That article is very interesting, some real interesting stuff like this;

'What Escudé calls “the indoctrination about territorial nationalism” is a process that consolidated around 1945, more than a century after the islands were taken over by the British.

“Geography textbooks printed before the 1940s attributed to Argentina a territory of 2.800.000 km2, while later textbooks attributed it lands for approximately 4.000.000 km2,” he wrote in his essay.'

So essentially after 1945 Argentina quite randomly started claiming considerably more territory like the Falkland Island's but prior to that did not.
45 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
@43 very interesting PA just backs up what we already know, Argentine kids are brainwashed at an early age and know nothing of the true history only what the goverment want them to hear, spoken by an Argentine thank you. Interesting the posters all over the place stating las malvinas pish, I think we should start that over here “FALKLANDS self determination” to get more people in the know about what is happening down there and then see the reaction. Bet Argentina wouldn't like it, and nor would our goverment but I bet it would stir a response, probably one Argentina wouldn't like at all, we have kept a quiet stance on this so far but I fear the more this goes global via media websites etc the more responses Argentina will get and the more people they will piss off, unfortunatly they are not in a position to do anything about it and make themselves look more foolish than they are at the moment. Most of the world doesn't know or are interested in Argentina at the moment but the more limelight they bring on themselves at this time with regard to debt repayments, the IMF, continual whinging to UN etc etc the the more people turn a blind eye or ignore them as the poor spoilt brat that doesn't get it own way, sorry but thats the truth. They can slag the UN / UK/ US/ WORLD off all they like it will not alter the fact that at the moment they are on the brink of being a failed state and out of control, not only towards the FALKLAND ISLANDS but to everyone they owe money to and are refusing to pay, playing the “we will not be told what to do” will not work “we will look after ourselves” will not work either, I feel for the average Argentine as TMBOA drags the country down and the Malvinists ready their suitcases and bags full of $US and prepare for the off
46 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 10:34 pm Report abuse

Interesting article. How 'independent' is the Argentine Independent??

Strange that this statement has such prominence:
“On the other side of the Atlantic, Schweimler states that for the British, the Falklands are still a distant worry.
“There is this often repeated story about the 1982 invasion. When it started, most of the Brits thought the invasion was off the coast of Scotland, so of course they said that ‘we should fight back’. When they realised where the Falklands were, it simply stopped being an issue. Most British people had no idea where the islands where, and now 30 years later most of the young people wouldn’t probably know where they are,” said Schweimler.”

Schweimler is after all, South American, isn't he?

My recolllection is there was, throughout the Commonwealth, an overwhelming support for the FI and UK efforts to regain the islands for the inhabitants, and it never wavered.
The Argentinians were happy to 'give the finger' to the British and celebrated loudly in the streets.
47 slattzzz (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
and to all you rg's think you'll be surprised how much our young people know about the FALKLAND ISLANDS especially after this year when it was never off the TV about our victory in 82 and all the street parties and all, they couldn't have failed to notice, I mean what a year, 30 years celebration of victory in the FALKLANDS, Queens Diamond jubilee, Olympic games, para olympics, Chelsea champions of Europe, what exactly happened in Rgenweener apart from a lot of WHINGING!!!!!!!!!!!
48 andy65 (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
Only a barbaric Fool like Hitler Cristina kirchner could expect a governmant to sit down and negociate a pre determined outcome, an outcome that is written into The Argentine constitution soverighnty of The Falkland Islands.We did not roll over and give into her and her dead husbands Nazi for fathers and we won't be doing it now.Many interlectuals clearly and rightly point out both countrys claim soverignty so there is nothing to talk about Argentina needs to accept the will of the islanders and that it is the British flag fluttering beautifully over Stanly.
49 Anbar (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 11:57 pm Report abuse
“”“””OMG, two years... that's an eternity isn't it? Especially since the British hypcocrite (oops, pleonasm), still espouses those same views.“”“”“”

oh dear.... using that word “pleonasm” again - dead giveaway to your other account name - tutut naughty sock-puppet.
50 slattzzz (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:06 am Report abuse
why cant you rg's even stick to one name between you all, you constantly post crap that has no relevence to the topic posted, when you are losing you retort to shite you tube videos, or IRAQ, LIBYA, AFGHAN, stink resorts to his thesaurous, PH resorts to 100% nuclear weapons for rgenweener (from his safe haven in CANADA), you know it only makes you look more pathetic than you are, even BK hasn't been on for a while, he must have run out of tissues. The only one on here that is from Argentina is simon68 i feel, and he actually tells it as it is not some fairytale feel good factor the rest spout, so basically all you plastic rg's living in Sweden and Canada and the rest of europe move home and support your country, pay taxes, give up your dollars, instead of spouting crap and embarassing yourselves
51 Lord Ton (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:23 am Report abuse

All this has happened before of course - in the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's ..... repetition, repetition, without Argentina getting any closer in its ambition to colonise the Falkland islands.
52 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:26 am Report abuse
As I always say


Engaged in more disputes in various organisations around the world than any other country
Strange isn't it
53 slattzzz (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:30 am Report abuse
whingeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee as i said they are just spaniards with their balls missing
54 briton (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:35 am Report abuse
well to be fair, seeing as we will come out on top again,

these argies seem to be used to humiliation,
it seems to run concurrent with CFK.
55 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 12:51 am Report abuse
As anyone heard about Cristina resurecting the special one way charter flights over the South Atlantic especially aimed at the Argentine journalist
56 Lord Ton (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 01:21 am Report abuse
Argentina the victim -
57 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 01:30 am Report abuse
Brainwashed from an early age
58 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 03:20 am Report abuse
@Lord Ton

Tried to google“ Argentina Independent” to find out info on that news outlet.

Are they truly independent, or in somebody's back pocket??
59 puerto argentino (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 06:08 am Report abuse
Brainwashed from 150 year ago Pirates Capital(uk)
60 Lord Ton (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 07:14 am Report abuse
#58 No idea

#59 What happened 150 years ago ?? Unless you mean Spanish recognition of British sovereignty over the Falklands in 1863 ??
61 Santa Fe (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 07:48 am Report abuse
59...Nope RG school children brainwashed just like you great friends the Nazis

post as 56:

shame on RGland
62 Dean street (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:20 am Report abuse
#58 + #60

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
63 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:37 am Report abuse
@puerto argentino For the 1000th time remind us all again how you people came about?? you are stupid enough to call others pirates when you decend from Spanish Pirates yourself-when will Argentines accept they are made up of EUROPEAN IMMAGRANTS
64 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
Argentines are not Euroopeans. We HATE Europeans. Pay up for your crimes.
65 slattzzz (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
@64 but you are descendants of europeans dickhead, pay your debts............losers
66 Simon68 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
64 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#)
Dec 10th, 2012 - 02:20 pm

Speak for yourself, Tobias, you do NOT speak for all Argentines and I certainly do not hate Europeans, so much so that I married a European!!!!!
67 PGH (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
Mercopenguin: it's an “alleged” right to self-determination. They should have their “right” examined by the ICJ and put an end to this, once and for all.

(But of course that's not going to happen: the more generations they they've been there, they more they can ask to leave British crimes in the past)
68 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 2nd “Argentines are not Euroopeans” LOL you could not make this up could you
Thanks maty if that's not proof you really do have problems accepting your history and past, it must crucify you every time you bend to kiss the ass of your leader Crissy KIRCHNER now theres a great NAZI EUROPEAN surname if ever there was one LOL NOT EUROPEAN what an idiot.
69 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 06:17 pm Report abuse

andy65 (post 68) covered one half of my comment on your ridiculous post nicely. As for the other half: you are always claiming that us Brits and Europeans etc never post anything factual. YOu can back up that Argentines HATE Europeans can you? Do you mean all Argentines, the majority of Argentines, a significant minority of Argentines or just you and your crazy mates? Which is it and where is your evidence?
70 briton (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
Apparently after doing an autopsy on a CFK supporter,
They found a [ever ready battery] and a [microchip]

Indoctrination from birth,
You are all controlled, but you just don’t know

71 HansNiesund (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:17 pm Report abuse
The right to self-determination isn't alleged. It's recognised by the UN as a universal human right. Argentine attempts to limit that right have been rejected. See the “Mercosur summit” thread for details.

Otherwise, the normal course of events would be for the complainant to appeal to the court. That would be Argentina. Even Thatcher said back in the 80s if Argentina went to the ICJ, the UK would respond.

What's stopping you?
72 andy65 (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
This is a passage written by a carribean diplomat

Argentina is a neighbouring country, and, as good neighbours, the Caribbean should urge it to take its case to the International Court of Justice if it believes it has a genuine argument for sovereignty over the Falklands, and, therefore the right to any oil that is found in the territorial waters of the islands. It’s what the Caribbean would have to do in similar circumstances

The same person also acknowledges that The United kindom as shown willingness to do this where Argentina refuses to-I WONDER WHY.

The same diplomat also points out the following

There are many good reasons why Commonwealth Caribbean countries should not support Argentina in this dispute with Britain. First, the inhabitants of the Falklands have determined that they are British and wish to remain so. They have rejected the notion of being Argentinian. The right of self-determination, enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, is one that Commonwealth Caribbean countries have long upheld, and, indeed, is the basis on which each of them achieved their own political independence.
73 M_of_FI (#) Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
@5 - Nostrolldamus

“Most of their countries [Europe] live in the stone age when it comes to rights for all groups”

So tell me again why the Falkland Islanders do not have human rights? Something to do with land, right? Something to do with Argentina pride, right? Something to do with the islanders not wanting the same thing as you, right? Idiot. Hypocrite. Laughable.
74 Pete Bog (#) Dec 11th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
“it's an “alleged” right to self-determination.”


Every UN resolution asking the UK and Argentina to talk to resolve diferences over the Falkland Islands is conditional on the provisions of the UN Charter, because it says so.

It does not say only 1, 2 ,3 0r any other specific parts of the UN charter apply to the Falkland Islands , so therefore it refers to the whole of the UN charter, of which one part only is used by Argentina (National integrity), itself is a flawed argument as Argentina (formed in 1853) has never owned the Falkland Islands, except the time its' pirates squatted in the Islands from April to June 1982, when on the request of the rightful owners the Falklnd Islanders they were evicted.
75 Conqueror (#) Dec 12th, 2012 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
@64 Really? Demographically, 86.4% EUROPEAN. Also 90% HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOTS. Argies without triple entry points shouldn't be allowed to survive. No point to them. Can you do a triple? Or four?
@67 Your “grave” has already been “dug”. Down to the sewage works and accept your fate.

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